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Should Sassinia Stay In The Union of Socialist Nations?

Yes.
19
33%
No.
22
38%
I am unsure.
0
No votes
I do not care.
10
17%
Neutral.
6
10%
Other.
1
2%
 
Total votes : 58

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The United Soviet Socialist Republic
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Founded: Aug 10, 2011
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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Sun Dec 09, 2012 10:53 am

Novograd IV wrote:
Marquette of Pacific wrote:Full Nation Name: Constitutional Monarchy of Marquette
National Ideology: Government is 45% Socialist and about 55% Capitalist, we are Socialist in that we still have a moderately powerful monarch and he has lots of power and influence in government
Description of National Economy: Much investing in the private sector, technological innovations is the biggest form of income to our country, about 55% capitalist
National Representative to The Union of Socialist Nations: Olivier LeBlanc
Anything Special Requests: Not that I can think of...


... No... Just... no.

OOC:My nation is a Monarchy...
Gay and Proudand also a brony
Political Compass:Left: 7.76, Authoritarian: 5.6
I am: Fascist/Corporatist on economy,
Conservative on social issues(Support same sex marriage),
Anti secularist on religion,
Anti-Republican on government,
Interventionist/Imperialist on international issues

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Novograd IV
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Postby Novograd IV » Sun Dec 09, 2012 11:23 am

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Novograd IV wrote:
... No... Just... no.

OOC:My nation is a Monarchy...

OOC: Is it an absolute (or near absolute) one?


Marquette of Pacific wrote:I do know what it means. I am a Socialist nation (technically) but I'm not fully Socialist.

Then how the hell does a monarch mean you're socialist? :eyebrow:

Even though the idea of percentage swings capitalist and socialist is a bit silly, I won't go into that, but instead suggest that your government is supposedly only socialist by the minority. Meaning that you've got a self-confessed capitalist ruling ideology, which alone breaks rule 1.
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The United Soviet Socialist Republic
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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Sun Dec 09, 2012 11:24 am

Novograd IV wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:OOC:My nation is a Monarchy...

OOC: Is it an absolute (or near absolute) one?

OOC:Absolute monarchy in the form of a dynasty ruled by the King Family.
Gay and Proudand also a brony
Political Compass:Left: 7.76, Authoritarian: 5.6
I am: Fascist/Corporatist on economy,
Conservative on social issues(Support same sex marriage),
Anti secularist on religion,
Anti-Republican on government,
Interventionist/Imperialist on international issues

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Novograd IV
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Postby Novograd IV » Sun Dec 09, 2012 11:28 am

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Novograd IV wrote:OOC: Is it an absolute (or near absolute) one?

OOC:Absolute monarchy in the form of a dynasty ruled by the King Family.

OOC:Absolute as in - does the monarch have power in the executive or judiciary? and to what extent?
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The United Soviet Socialist Republic
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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Sun Dec 09, 2012 11:55 am

Novograd IV wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:OOC:Absolute monarchy in the form of a dynasty ruled by the King Family.

OOC:Absolute as in - does the monarch have power in the executive or judiciary? and to what extent?

OOC:Complete power over everything.
Gay and Proudand also a brony
Political Compass:Left: 7.76, Authoritarian: 5.6
I am: Fascist/Corporatist on economy,
Conservative on social issues(Support same sex marriage),
Anti secularist on religion,
Anti-Republican on government,
Interventionist/Imperialist on international issues

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Novograd IV
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Postby Novograd IV » Sun Dec 09, 2012 12:51 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Novograd IV wrote:OOC:Absolute as in - does the monarch have power in the executive or judiciary? and to what extent?

OOC:Complete power over everything.

OOC:Then you're breaching rule 1 of the USN, no two-ways about it.
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The United Soviet Socialist Republic
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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Sun Dec 09, 2012 12:56 pm

Novograd IV wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:OOC:Complete power over everything.

OOC:Then you're breaching rule 1 of the USN, no two-ways about it.

OOC:That is the government system. The economy is highly left wing.
Gay and Proudand also a brony
Political Compass:Left: 7.76, Authoritarian: 5.6
I am: Fascist/Corporatist on economy,
Conservative on social issues(Support same sex marriage),
Anti secularist on religion,
Anti-Republican on government,
Interventionist/Imperialist on international issues

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Novograd IV
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Postby Novograd IV » Sun Dec 09, 2012 1:11 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Novograd IV wrote:OOC:Then you're breaching rule 1 of the USN, no two-ways about it.

OOC:That is the government system. The economy is highly left wing.

OOC:Article 1, not 7.
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The United Soviet Socialist Republic
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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Sun Dec 09, 2012 1:21 pm

Novograd IV wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:OOC:That is the government system. The economy is highly left wing.

OOC:Article 1, not 7.

OOC:It does not say monarchy is banned.
Gay and Proudand also a brony
Political Compass:Left: 7.76, Authoritarian: 5.6
I am: Fascist/Corporatist on economy,
Conservative on social issues(Support same sex marriage),
Anti secularist on religion,
Anti-Republican on government,
Interventionist/Imperialist on international issues

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Novograd IV
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Postby Novograd IV » Sun Dec 09, 2012 1:28 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Novograd IV wrote:OOC:Article 1, not 7.

OOC:It does not say monarchy is banned.

OOC: "democratic socialist, socialist, socialist communist, communist, marxist, or similar ideology." - Absolute Monarchy is a step from theocracy, if you have a hereditary rule, then it's not democratic or representative of the proletariat, it's the centralisation of power to a member the bourgeoisie, surely.
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Economic Left/Right: -9.62
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http://www.politicaltest.net/test/result/196124/

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The United Soviet Socialist Republic
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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Sun Dec 09, 2012 1:31 pm

Novograd IV wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:OOC:It does not say monarchy is banned.

OOC: "democratic socialist, socialist, socialist communist, communist, marxist, or similar ideology." - Absolute Monarchy is a step from theocracy, if you have a hereditary rule, then it's not democratic or representative of the proletariat, it's the centralisation of power to a member the bourgeoisie, surely.

OOC:And the nation is run rather theocraticly. Religion is a prime part of everything.
Gay and Proudand also a brony
Political Compass:Left: 7.76, Authoritarian: 5.6
I am: Fascist/Corporatist on economy,
Conservative on social issues(Support same sex marriage),
Anti secularist on religion,
Anti-Republican on government,
Interventionist/Imperialist on international issues

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Novograd IV
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Postby Novograd IV » Sun Dec 09, 2012 1:32 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Novograd IV wrote:OOC: "democratic socialist, socialist, socialist communist, communist, marxist, or similar ideology." - Absolute Monarchy is a step from theocracy, if you have a hereditary rule, then it's not democratic or representative of the proletariat, it's the centralisation of power to a member the bourgeoisie, surely.

OOC:And the nation is run rather theocraticly. Religion is a prime part of everything.

OOC:You don't see this breaching Article 1? Not even a little bit?
Novan Wiki (under [re]construction)

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http://www.politicaltest.net/test/result/196124/

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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Sun Dec 09, 2012 1:34 pm

Novograd IV wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:OOC:And the nation is run rather theocraticly. Religion is a prime part of everything.

OOC:You don't see this breaching Article 1? Not even a little bit?

OOC:And atheists are secretly genocided. And everyone who tries to attack Judaism is tortured brutally then enslaved. And all non Abrahamic religions have tons of propoganda pumped out against them and they are discriminated against.
Gay and Proudand also a brony
Political Compass:Left: 7.76, Authoritarian: 5.6
I am: Fascist/Corporatist on economy,
Conservative on social issues(Support same sex marriage),
Anti secularist on religion,
Anti-Republican on government,
Interventionist/Imperialist on international issues

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Novograd IV
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Postby Novograd IV » Sun Dec 09, 2012 1:46 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Novograd IV wrote:OOC:You don't see this breaching Article 1? Not even a little bit?

OOC:And atheists are secretly genocided. And everyone who tries to attack Judaism is tortured brutally then enslaved. And all non Abrahamic religions have tons of propoganda pumped out against them and they are discriminated against.


*looks at nation page*
*looks at signature*
*jumps off cliff*
:p
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The United Soviet Socialist Republic
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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Sun Dec 09, 2012 1:52 pm

Novograd IV wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:OOC:And atheists are secretly genocided. And everyone who tries to attack Judaism is tortured brutally then enslaved. And all non Abrahamic religions have tons of propoganda pumped out against them and they are discriminated against.


*looks at nation page*
*looks at signature*
*jumps off cliff*
:p

:p
Gay and Proudand also a brony
Political Compass:Left: 7.76, Authoritarian: 5.6
I am: Fascist/Corporatist on economy,
Conservative on social issues(Support same sex marriage),
Anti secularist on religion,
Anti-Republican on government,
Interventionist/Imperialist on international issues

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Northwestern Iberia
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Founded: Jun 08, 2011
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Postby Northwestern Iberia » Sun Dec 09, 2012 1:52 pm

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=212598&p=11976513#p11976513

Comrades, elections in a country of my region. We must made the anti-capitalist forces to win, and I recommend to vote the Communist Party.
Economic Left/Right: -9.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.38
Foreign Policy Non-interventionist/Neo-con: -3.10
Cultural Liberal/Conservative: -6.90
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I have been: Traditionalist, socialdemocrat, trotskyist.
I´m a Spanish MarxistLeninist pro-Galician independence.

Nation - Union of Popular Republics of Northwestern Iberia
Regime - Socialist State
Current government - Far left socialist government
Prime Minister - Carlos Veiga
War code
0 - Peace
1 - Enemy warned/intelligence services on alert
2 - Imminent conflict
3 - Foreig conflict/National alert
4 - Major Conflict/National security compromised
5 - Homeland under invasion

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CoolLand
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Founded: Nov 14, 2011
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Postby CoolLand » Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:19 pm

George did not like the storm that was brewing, and he said, "Everyone. Lunestian representatives threatened me, my nation, and this union. I promise I shall eject no further nations that Lunestia using my executive power. I am sorry I have done that, and I apologize for it. I also have evidence that Lunestia was a mole! They were truly capitalist, and they have voiced their opinion about this many times previously in the international forum. Additionally, they were most likely studying this union, and using for ammunition against our fine ideology. Also, I would like to make to clear that this union is not against ponies, not in the least sense. If we were against ponies, I would have let the Soviet Empire's genocide against them continue! Instead, i have decided to sacrifice hundreds of kilometres of land in order for their very lives! This is land that my very populous nation could have used, but instead I have given it to them to save ponies from death! Yet, I am accused of being against pony kind, and that accusation is absurd. I truly hope this meeting can resume, and we can have a good ending to this meeting, as we only have about five minutes remaining of it. The next meeting shall actually be a political summit lasting one week, occurring in three days from now. All representatives shall be offered board at their suites in floors 15-18 of this building.", said George.

One of the other reasons why I ejected Kane, was because they offended me personally, they threatened me, cursed at me, as well as attempting to join The Black Riders, a well-known raiding organization. Additionally, they recently moved to the region, Capitalist Paradise, which is obviously an anti-socialist and anti-communist region, and is completely capitalist. Also, on their national page, it describes their government as "fascist". I believe this is just reason for expulsion.
A wise man once said, capitalism don't work for everybody baby.
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The Legion of Kane
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Founded: Aug 31, 2012
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Postby The Legion of Kane » Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:22 pm

OoC : May I add, that joining the CP has nothing to do with IC matters. And he is wrongly referring to a party in my nation that isn't even the most popular. Unless I RP in them, REGIONS HAVE NOTHING AT ALL TO DO WITH IC.
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Rommissia
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Founded: Dec 04, 2012
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Postby Rommissia » Wed Dec 12, 2012 8:08 pm

OOC: Do you guys ever tell people if their applications have been accepted or denied? Just wondering, I've been checking the first post for edits but I haven't seen any changes from since The Legion of Kane was ejected.

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The Diasporia
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Founded: May 02, 2012
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Postby The Diasporia » Tue Dec 18, 2012 11:03 am

CoolLand wrote:George did not like the storm that was brewing, and he said, "Everyone. Lunestian representatives threatened me, my nation, and this union. I promise I shall eject no further nations that Lunestia using my executive power. I am sorry I have done that, and I apologize for it. I also have evidence that Lunestia was a mole! They were truly capitalist, and they have voiced their opinion about this many times previously in the international forum. Additionally, they were most likely studying this union, and using for ammunition against our fine ideology. Also, I would like to make to clear that this union is not against ponies, not in the least sense. If we were against ponies, I would have let the Soviet Empire's genocide against them continue! Instead, i have decided to sacrifice hundreds of kilometres of land in order for their very lives! This is land that my very populous nation could have used, but instead I have given it to them to save ponies from death! Yet, I am accused of being against pony kind, and that accusation is absurd. I truly hope this meeting can resume, and we can have a good ending to this meeting, as we only have about five minutes remaining of it. The next meeting shall actually be a political summit lasting one week, occurring in three days from now. All representatives shall be offered board at their suites in floors 15-18 of this building.", said George.

One of the other reasons why I ejected Kane, was because they offended me personally, they threatened me, cursed at me, as well as attempting to join The Black Riders, a well-known raiding organization. Additionally, they recently moved to the region, Capitalist Paradise, which is obviously an anti-socialist and anti-communist region, and is completely capitalist. Also, on their national page, it describes their government as "fascist". I believe this is just reason for expulsion.


OOC: You mean we will actually get to legislation? In this political body? A Christmas Boxing Day miracle if there ever was one.
I consider myself to be an amatuer philosopher. You hath been warned.
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Rommissia
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Postby Rommissia » Tue Dec 25, 2012 1:55 pm

Rommissia wrote:OOC: Do you guys ever tell people if their applications have been accepted or denied? Just wondering, I've been checking the first post for edits but I haven't seen any changes from since The Legion of Kane was ejected.

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