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Glaswegistan
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Postby Glaswegistan » Fri Oct 12, 2012 4:34 am

Phonencia wrote:
United Nations Alliance wrote:Umm...come to think about it I'm not really sure. Maybe because I wanted something unique. And I've always liked incendiary weapons for some reason...could be my fire loving, semi-pyromaniac tendencies. Anyway, who doesn't want to watch thier enemies bases and battlions burn!


The same people that also don't want to watch THEIR bases and supply caches burn...

Correct me if I'm mistaken but doesn't Incendiary Ammo require more specialized storage methods compared to conventional ammo? Plus isn't it way more expensive?
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I wouldn't know about expenses, what with half my country being secondary industry...

I'd hazard a guess that you'd want to use conventional ammunition in most situations, especially in close quarters, especially in flammable close quarters. And God help you if you try taking an Oil field or a fuel refinery and your entire force is using incindiaries.
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Virana
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Postby Virana » Fri Oct 12, 2012 1:26 pm

United Nations Alliance wrote:Okay, I just ran the idea about incendiary weapons past my USMC friend (who I'm trying to convince to join NS). And he thinks it would be ahrd to do for regular bullets and tank shells for various reasons, one is it's lack of armour piercing capabilities (I even mentioned armour piercing incendiary shells and he said it would be a hard mix). Incendiary ammo is extremely fragile and against the new Kevlar (the Dragonskin kevlar) it would be useless. Older kevlar would catch on fire though and burn. It's a better AoE weapons since it becomes pretty much unstoppable, but the Genevia Convention forbids the use of napalm...as well as othe rincendiary weapons on or near the civilian population, not that I was going to do that anyway. He said I'd be better off having FMJ ammo for my troops and keeping incendiary weapons for bigger things...like tanks and artillary and ships and bomb....and ICBMs.

EDIT: My USMC friend joined! But I'm sad because he's pretty much a dictatorship when it comes to political freedoms.

Yeah the new flame-resistant stuff is a lot better but it's not completely fireproof. Although yeah all the materials they're using now (including the Kevlar) have a certain degree of flame resistance so that's a good sign.

But Phone and your USMC friend are right, incendiary ammo on a large scale isn't too plausible.
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Phonencia
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Postby Phonencia » Fri Oct 12, 2012 1:29 pm

Veceria wrote:
- Short Reply Form #Start -

The Royal Stratocracy of Veceria hereby resigns from the ICE, as we don't like the idea of being a member of this organization anymore.
We had a nice time in the coalition, but now it's time to go. However, if members of the ICE needs help of any sort,
they should feel free to contact us.

Yours,
Joseph Kraden

- Short Reply Form #End -


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Postby Slavatainia » Fri Oct 12, 2012 6:19 pm

Phonencia wrote:([url=http://i.imgur.com/qiwys.png]Image)[/url]

What ya'll think of the official seal of the Phonencian Department of War?
(see if you can find the hidden symbols by clicking around randomly with the "fill with colour" tool on MSPaint. I recommend you use the colour yellow or blue.)




Could we have a Department Of Peace?
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Postby Felix Terra » Fri Oct 12, 2012 8:09 pm

Slavatainia wrote:
Phonencia wrote:([url=http://i.imgur.com/qiwys.png]Image)[/url]

What ya'll think of the official seal of the Phonencian Department of War?
(see if you can find the hidden symbols by clicking around randomly with the "fill with colour" tool on MSPaint. I recommend you use the colour yellow or blue.)




Could we have a Department Of Peace?

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Phonencia
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Postby Phonencia » Fri Oct 12, 2012 9:38 pm

Slavatainia wrote:
Phonencia wrote:([url=http://i.imgur.com/qiwys.png]Image)[/url]

What ya'll think of the official seal of the Phonencian Department of War?
(see if you can find the hidden symbols by clicking around randomly with the "fill with colour" tool on MSPaint. I recommend you use the colour yellow or blue.)




Could we have a Department Of Peace?


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Postby United Nations Alliance » Fri Oct 12, 2012 11:16 pm

Okay now for that suggestion I said I'd make. I ran it by Phonencia and he amde it better asthetically and so there is no confusion as to the reason for it's existence.

I, Supreme Justiciar Amirah Angelic, ICE Reprasentative of the Consolidated Nations Alliance, with the power and suggestions of CNA High Command;

NOTES the need for a more streamlined running of the Peacekeeping and Humanitarian sections of ICE's Humanitarian Branch.
POINTING OUT that under the current structure, the Peacekeeping Corps are forced to draw funds from the ICEH Department's singular budget which is shared with the Humanitarian Aid Corps
REALISING that such policies may cause logistics problems due to the HAC and PC being forced to share a budget that is expected to pay for items ranging from medicine and blankets to tanks and automatic weapons, very different assets that require specialized budgets to properly acquire.
SUGGEST elements of the PC (Peacekeeping Corps) High Command be organized into a Department of Peacekeeping and Security with its own budget and personnel seperate from those of the HAC (Humanitarian Aid Corps)
FURTHER SUGGESTING that ICE member states be assigned specific membership types, Security, Humanitarian and Dual in which nations would only contribute to ICE's military pursuits (Security) ICE's Humanitarian pursuits (Humanitarian) or would contribute to both (Dual) Thus allowing foreign states of pacifist policy to join ICE's ranks and assist with the ultimate goal of eliminating famine and poverty.


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[5]Peace, no conflict
[4]Above normal readiness/Increased intelligence watch and strengthened security measures
[3]Medium readiness/Increase in force readiness above that required for normal readiness. Minor peacekeeping operation(s) underway
[2]War readiness. ICE Operation(s) underway
[1]Full-scale war. Defence of homeland or full invasion of another
http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=69551
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The New Lowlands
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Postby The New Lowlands » Sat Oct 13, 2012 5:55 am

Slavatainia wrote:
Phonencia wrote:([url=http://i.imgur.com/qiwys.png]Image)[/url]

What ya'll think of the official seal of the Phonencian Department of War?
(see if you can find the hidden symbols by clicking around randomly with the "fill with colour" tool on MSPaint. I recommend you use the colour yellow or blue.)




Could we have a Department Of Peace?

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Virana
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Postby Virana » Sat Oct 13, 2012 7:21 am

United Nations Alliance wrote:Okay now for that suggestion I said I'd make. I ran it by Phonencia and he amde it better asthetically and so there is no confusion as to the reason for it's existence.

I, Supreme Justiciar Amirah Angelic, ICE Reprasentative of the Consolidated Nations Alliance, with the power and suggestions of CNA High Command;

NOTES the need for a more streamlined running of the Peacekeeping and Humanitarian sections of ICE's Humanitarian Branch.
POINTING OUT that under the current structure, the Peacekeeping Corps are forced to draw funds from the ICEH Department's singular budget which is shared with the Humanitarian Aid Corps
REALISING that such policies may cause logistics problems due to the HAC and PC being forced to share a budget that is expected to pay for items ranging from medicine and blankets to tanks and automatic weapons, very different assets that require specialized budgets to properly acquire.
SUGGEST elements of the PC (Peacekeeping Corps) High Command be organized into a Department of Peacekeeping and Security with its own budget and personnel seperate from those of the HAC (Humanitarian Aid Corps)
FURTHER SUGGESTING that ICE member states be assigned specific membership types, Security, Humanitarian and Duel in which nations would only contribute to ICE's military pursuits (Security) ICE's Humanitarian pursuits (Humanitarian) or would contribute to both (Duel) Thus allowing foreign states of pacifist policy to join ICE's ranks and assist with the ultimate goal of eliminating famine and poverty.


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Supreme Justiciar of CNA Judicial Corps, CNA ICE Reprasentative

(dual*)

Sounds good.
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United Nations Alliance
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Postby United Nations Alliance » Sat Oct 13, 2012 8:03 am

Yay, Virana likes it! That's three people (Virana, Phonencia, and me) so far.

So other then the small typo (Phonecnia's fault, I never origionally mentioned Dual Membership before I ran it by him), which has been fixed. Is there anything that needs to be ammended in the form of an addition or change to one of the bits of it?
[5]Peace, no conflict
[4]Above normal readiness/Increased intelligence watch and strengthened security measures
[3]Medium readiness/Increase in force readiness above that required for normal readiness. Minor peacekeeping operation(s) underway
[2]War readiness. ICE Operation(s) underway
[1]Full-scale war. Defence of homeland or full invasion of another
http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=69551
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The New Lowlands
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Postby The New Lowlands » Sat Oct 13, 2012 8:04 am

I'm for it.

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United Nations Alliance
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Postby United Nations Alliance » Sat Oct 13, 2012 8:08 am

That's four!
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[5]Peace, no conflict
[4]Above normal readiness/Increased intelligence watch and strengthened security measures
[3]Medium readiness/Increase in force readiness above that required for normal readiness. Minor peacekeeping operation(s) underway
[2]War readiness. ICE Operation(s) underway
[1]Full-scale war. Defence of homeland or full invasion of another
http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=69551
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Postby Phonencia » Sat Oct 13, 2012 8:11 am

United Nations Alliance wrote:Yay, Virana likes it! That's three people (Virana, Phonencia, and me) so far.

So other then the small typo (Phonecnia's fault, I never origionally mentioned Dual Membership before I ran it by him), which has been fixed. Is there anything that needs to be ammended in the form of an addition or change to one of the bits of it?


You misspelled my fucking name and you blame ME for the typo!?
okay yeah the typo was completely my fault...
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Postby United Nations Alliance » Sat Oct 13, 2012 8:15 am

Phonencia wrote:
United Nations Alliance wrote:Yay, Virana likes it! That's three people (Virana, Phonencia, and me) so far.

So other then the small typo (Phonecnia's fault, I never origionally mentioned Dual Membership before I ran it by him), which has been fixed. Is there anything that needs to be ammended in the form of an addition or change to one of the bits of it?


You misspelled my fucking name and you blame ME for the typo!?
okay yeah the typo was completely my fault...

Yeah, and I type fast, the ammount of typos I miss on SIMPLE words is asstounding...and for a seasoned roleplayer like me it makes me die. Okay so I misspealled your name ONCE. You did the same typo twice, bro. So no getting your jimmies rustled at me.
[5]Peace, no conflict
[4]Above normal readiness/Increased intelligence watch and strengthened security measures
[3]Medium readiness/Increase in force readiness above that required for normal readiness. Minor peacekeeping operation(s) underway
[2]War readiness. ICE Operation(s) underway
[1]Full-scale war. Defence of homeland or full invasion of another
http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=69551
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Postby Phonencia » Sat Oct 13, 2012 9:52 am

United Nations Alliance wrote:
Phonencia wrote:
You misspelled my fucking name and you blame ME for the typo!?
okay yeah the typo was completely my fault...

Yeah, and I type fast, the ammount of typos I miss on SIMPLE words is asstounding...and for a seasoned roleplayer like me it makes me die. Okay so I misspealled your name ONCE. You did the same typo twice, bro. So no getting your jimmies rustled at me.


*rustles jimmies anyway*
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Postby United Nations Alliance » Sat Oct 13, 2012 10:01 am

Anyway...I'm sure people will like this. But I think we have enough liking for it to put it through to the IC, or even enact it now but that wouldn't be right, it would require an official vote.

And on another note...when should we begin the first mission against the tailor made ICE enemy? *has been waiting for a chance to unleash The Order fof the New Dawn on the world*
[5]Peace, no conflict
[4]Above normal readiness/Increased intelligence watch and strengthened security measures
[3]Medium readiness/Increase in force readiness above that required for normal readiness. Minor peacekeeping operation(s) underway
[2]War readiness. ICE Operation(s) underway
[1]Full-scale war. Defence of homeland or full invasion of another
http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=69551
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Postby Phonencia » Sat Oct 13, 2012 10:35 am

United Nations Alliance wrote:Anyway...I'm sure people will like this. But I think we have enough liking for it to put it through to the IC, or even enact it now but that wouldn't be right, it would require an official vote.

And on another note...when should we begin the first mission against the tailor made ICE enemy? *has been waiting for a chance to unleash The Order fof the New Dawn on the world*


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Postby Glaswegistan » Sat Oct 13, 2012 1:41 pm

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Postby Virana » Sat Oct 13, 2012 2:22 pm


Eh, I doubt blocking internet is a grounds for invading. Maybe some spec ops stuff to rescue targeted individuals that could help us, but the most we can do is soft power - sanctions and all that.

I might consider making a "bad guy" nation too that goes against everything Emmeria stands for. If I go along with the AC6 theme I could do Estovakia, but that's waaay too common.
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Postby Glaswegistan » Sat Oct 13, 2012 2:34 pm

Virana wrote:Eh, I doubt blocking internet is a grounds for invading. Maybe some spec ops stuff to rescue targeted individuals that could help us, but the most we can do is soft power - sanctions and all that.

I might consider making a "bad guy" nation too that goes against everything Emmeria stands for. If I go along with the AC6 theme I could do Estovakia, but that's waaay too common.


Theres like seven Estovakia's...

Either way, I'm working on an organisation dedicated to refugee extraction, much in the manner you describe. Largely for situations like this where a full war may not be warranted (Well, not by most people standards, anyway), but it is plain that persons from foreign territories are not being afforded the liberty of movement away from an area where their constitutional rights are oppressed, and therefore a moral imperative exists to evacuate the affected persons, and to accomplish secondary objectives in the area in preparation for future evacuation or, should the situation develop; liberation.
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Postby Alexiandra » Sat Oct 13, 2012 2:44 pm

The New Lowlands wrote:
Slavatainia wrote:
Could we have a Department Of Peace?

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Postby Saliu » Sat Oct 13, 2012 6:09 pm

United Nations Alliance wrote: -snip-


I agree, but we should re-organising the Peacekeeping Corps to be the Diplomatic and Peacekeeping Corps (DPC) to meet the requests of some of the members asking for diplomacy and peace. Brev. Elder Burston wishes to reside over the Humanitarian Aid Corps in the event of an administraitive restructure.
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Postby New Armarzia » Sat Oct 13, 2012 8:19 pm

United Nations Alliance wrote:Anyway...I'm sure people will like this. But I think we have enough liking for it to put it through to the IC, or even enact it now but that wouldn't be right, it would require an official vote.

And on another note...when should we begin the first mission against the tailor made ICE enemy? *has been waiting for a chance to unleash The Order fof the New Dawn on the world*


I guess I'll support, since I already said no to just about everything else and this is the most agreeable thing for me...though the membership namers aren't as catchy :P Your idea sounds pretty fun, i'd love to get involved, especially since it seems old bernigia is not responding...
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Postby Virana » Sat Oct 13, 2012 8:40 pm

Alright guys, I'm about to make my "evil" puppet. Corrupt, oppressive communist autocracy. Think neo-Soviets but with more oppression of rights. >:D

Might start an RP with it soon. ICE would be welcome to take part; I'd be the only one who doesn't, since RPing with your puppets is looked down upon. The puppet would be practically a polar-opposite of Emmeria.

EDIT: ladies and gentlemen, the Union of Yuktobanian Republics. I'm most likely gonna let it grow for a bit so that ICE doesn't send more military forces than I have total population on it.
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Postby New Armarzia » Sat Oct 13, 2012 9:01 pm

Virana wrote:Alright guys, I'm about to make my "evil" puppet. Corrupt, oppressive communist autocracy. Think neo-Soviets but with more oppression of rights. >:D

Might start an RP with it soon. ICE would be welcome to take part; I'd be the only one who doesn't, since RPing with your puppets is looked down upon. The puppet would be practically a polar-opposite of Emmeria.

EDIT: ladies and gentlemen, the Union of Yuktobanian Republics. I'm most likely gonna let it grow for a bit so that ICE doesn't send more military forces than I have total population on it.


Unity, equality and freedom? :eyebrow:
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