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[Phonencia]

I am perfectly fine...

Suuuure you are...

[Post War America]

Of course.

[Capisaria]

Oh god not this. I had the best argument and the longest argument with Phonencia. Don't start. We'll get no where. He won't change your opinion and you can't change his. You find common ground then suddenly that caves in.

That said, ACA is a terrible alliance and stands against what ICE is for. They are fascists and do not value human freedom, something many communists and socialists (Hi!) do.

[Virana]

Oh god not this. I had the best argument and the longest argument with Phonencia. Don't start. We'll get no where. He won't change your opinion and you can't change his. You find common ground then suddenly that caves in.

That said, ACA is a terrible alliance and stands against what ICE is for. They are fascists and do not value human freedom, something many communists and socialists (Hi!) do.

I almost considered joining ACA after seeing its name (since I'm a capitalist...), but once I looked at the nations part of it, I facepalmed and considered it, in my mind, easily worse than an alliance of commies.

ACA is an alliance of fascist authoritarian dictatorships whose prime goal is to combat communism—an economic ideology which generally promotes equality (in theory, but not necessarily in practice)—while themselves suppressing freedoms (both economic and civil/political), plus some non-fascists who hardly understand that they're part of a fascist alliance, seeing it as simply a way to combat communism.

Several nations on ACA's member list could easily be considered enemies of ICE, and so ACA isn't exactly the alliance to revere.

In regards to the capitalism vs. communism argument, capitalists play the Soviet card (even though Soviets were at one point one of the strongest economies of the world), ignoring the communist counter-argument that Stalinism ≠ Communism (even though everything he did, he said it was in the name of communism). Communists make the argument that capitalism suppresses the working middle class to the mercy of their wealthy entrepreneur overlords, ignoring the counter-argument that even most capitalists disagree with laissez-faire policies.

This definitely isn't the thread for such an argument, so let's just leave it at that.

[Doppio Giudici]

I prefer moderation, somewhere between capitalism and communism. Basically regulation and high taxes are what I build upon.

[Phonencia]

I prefer moderation, somewhere between capitalism and communism. Basically regulation and high taxes are what I build upon.

Uh I believe that's called Socialism by dear boy.

Oh god not this. I had the best argument and the longest argument with Phonencia. Don't start. We'll get no where. He won't change your opinion and you can't change his. You find common ground then suddenly that caves in.

That said, ACA is a terrible alliance and stands against what ICE is for. They are fascists and do not value human freedom, something many communists and socialists (Hi!) do.

I almost considered joining ACA after seeing its name (since I'm a capitalist...), but once I looked at the nations part of it, I facepalmed and considered it, in my mind, easily worse than an alliance of commies.

ACA is an alliance of fascist authoritarian dictatorships whose prime goal is to combat communism—an economic ideology which generally promotes equality (in theory, but not necessarily in practice)—while themselves suppressing freedoms (both economic and civil/political), plus some non-fascists who hardly understand that they're part of a fascist alliance, seeing it as simply a way to combat communism.

Several nations on ACA's member list could easily be considered enemies of ICE, and so ACA isn't exactly the alliance to revere.

In regards to the capitalism vs. communism argument, capitalists play the Soviet card (even though Soviets were at one point one of the strongest economies of the world), ignoring the communist counter-argument that Stalinism ≠ Communism (even though everything he did, he said it was in the name of communism). Communists make the argument that capitalism suppresses the working middle class to the mercy of their wealthy entrepreneur overlords, ignoring the counter-argument that even most capitalists disagree with laissez-faire policies.

This definitely isn't the thread for such an argument, so let's just leave it at that.

I was joking about the ACA being cool bruh
It's just that I (and my family) haaaate communism. When I was very little I once asked,
"What's a Communist?"
And the reply was,
"Evil."

[Armageddon Steel Legion]

I prefer moderation, somewhere between capitalism and communism. Basically regulation and high taxes are what I build upon.

Uh I believe that's called Socialism by dear boy.

I almost considered joining ACA after seeing its name (since I'm a capitalist...), but once I looked at the nations part of it, I facepalmed and considered it, in my mind, easily worse than an alliance of commies.

ACA is an alliance of fascist authoritarian dictatorships whose prime goal is to combat communism—an economic ideology which generally promotes equality (in theory, but not necessarily in practice)—while themselves suppressing freedoms (both economic and civil/political), plus some non-fascists who hardly understand that they're part of a fascist alliance, seeing it as simply a way to combat communism.

Several nations on ACA's member list could easily be considered enemies of ICE, and so ACA isn't exactly the alliance to revere.

In regards to the capitalism vs. communism argument, capitalists play the Soviet card (even though Soviets were at one point one of the strongest economies of the world), ignoring the communist counter-argument that Stalinism ≠ Communism (even though everything he did, he said it was in the name of communism). Communists make the argument that capitalism suppresses the working middle class to the mercy of their wealthy entrepreneur overlords, ignoring the counter-argument that even most capitalists disagree with laissez-faire policies.

This definitely isn't the thread for such an argument, so let's just leave it at that.

I was joking about the ACA being cool bruh
It's just that I (and my family) haaaate communism. When I was very little I once asked,
"What's a Communist?"
And the reply was,
"Your future wife."

Fixed.

[Doppio Giudici]

I prefer moderation, somewhere between capitalism and communism. Basically regulation and high taxes are what I build upon.

Uh I believe that's called Socialism by dear boy.

Americans call that socialism, I got into a three day argument with this guy who said otherwise. He pulled out all kinds of info and I realized that Americans call even slight leftism socialist, heck by American eyes all of Europe is socialist.

[Doppio Giudici]

Uh I believe that's called Socialism by dear boy.



I was joking about the ACA being cool bruh
It's just that I (and my family) haaaate communism. When I was very little I once asked,
"What's a Communist?"
And the reply was,
"Your future wife."

Fixed.

And I thought religion was the only important thing to match with your spouse.

[Old Beringia]

I prefer moderation, somewhere between capitalism and communism. Basically regulation and high taxes are what I build upon.

Uh I believe that's called Socialism by dear boy.

I almost considered joining ACA after seeing its name (since I'm a capitalist...), but once I looked at the nations part of it, I facepalmed and considered it, in my mind, easily worse than an alliance of commies.

ACA is an alliance of fascist authoritarian dictatorships whose prime goal is to combat communism—an economic ideology which generally promotes equality (in theory, but not necessarily in practice)—while themselves suppressing freedoms (both economic and civil/political), plus some non-fascists who hardly understand that they're part of a fascist alliance, seeing it as simply a way to combat communism.

Several nations on ACA's member list could easily be considered enemies of ICE, and so ACA isn't exactly the alliance to revere.

In regards to the capitalism vs. communism argument, capitalists play the Soviet card (even though Soviets were at one point one of the strongest economies of the world), ignoring the communist counter-argument that Stalinism ≠ Communism (even though everything he did, he said it was in the name of communism). Communists make the argument that capitalism suppresses the working middle class to the mercy of their wealthy entrepreneur overlords, ignoring the counter-argument that even most capitalists disagree with laissez-faire policies.

This definitely isn't the thread for such an argument, so let's just leave it at that.

I was joking about the ACA being cool bruh
It's just that I (and my family) haaaate communism. When I was very little I once asked,
"What's a Communist?"
And the reply was,
"Evil."

Were you born in the 1920's?

[Capisaria]

Uh I believe that's called Socialism by dear boy.

Americans call that socialism, I got into a three day argument with this guy who said otherwise. He pulled out all kinds of info and I realized that Americans call even slight leftism socialist, heck by American eyes all of Europe is socialist.

The only socialists in Europe are the Swedes. And now, to a point, the French. The rest of Europe is controlled by conservative parties. For the most part.

[The New Lowlands]

I think I'd be the more objective one.

Communists are evil.

In summary; the system the Rooskies had was not Communism.
Hell, it wasn't even Socialism.
It was Leninism and Stalinism.
Communism has no government.

[The New Lowlands]

Americans call that socialism, I got into a three day argument with this guy who said otherwise. He pulled out all kinds of info and I realized that Americans call even slight leftism socialist, heck by American eyes all of Europe is socialist.

The only socialists in Europe are the Swedes. And now, to a point, the French. The rest of Europe is controlled by conservative parties. For the most part.

Norway?

[Ea90]

I recently designed a gun (the image of which can be found here, but I doubt that it would appeal to most of you.

[Vomal]

Nation Name: The Allied States of Vomal
National Leader(s): Prime Minister Jack Monroe
National/Most Common Religion: Unorganized Monotheism
Government Form: Democracy
Military Strength: 12,500,000 in Active Military Forces
Main Infantry Weapon: Ar-16 or the G63C
Main Battle Tank: VA "Waker" Tank
Main Fighter Plane: Phoenix II Fighter Jet (F-15 Tomcat)
Main Naval Warships: Midnight-Class Warship (Iowa-Class)
Infantry Calibers Used: 5.56x45mm NATO
Military Service Branches: Vomalian Army, Vomalian Navy, Vomalian Air Force
Infantry Body Armor: (if none type N/A)
Are You Willing to Switch to the 6.5x39mm ICE Cartridge for Your Main Rifle?: Willing to make the switch
Are You Willing to Assist in Offensive Military Operations?: Yes
List All Other Alliances You Are a Member of: N/A
Do You Want to Make a Monetary Donation to the ICE Humanitarian Branch?: At this time No
Do You Want to Make a Materiel Donation to the ICEH or Peacekeeping Corps?: At this time No
Are You In Need of Military Aid?: No
Are You Willing to Volunteer Extreme-Climate Areas of Your Nation for Training Exercises?: Yes
If Yes, List Areas and Climate: The Mountains and tundra of the Northern Expanse
Other Facts You Believe ICE Should Know About Your Nation: Currently embroiled in a war with North Arusian Rebels to help protect the country, however, a vote is on the floor to pull out and we are willing to do so if you need assistance.
Membership Type: Full

[Ea90]

74,479,550 is nearly 7% of your population, and having that many people in the military would hamper your economy greatly.

[Vomal]

Military reserves, I'm sorry I should have been more clear, but in Vomal we have every person between the ages of 18 to 35 in the reserves as a requirement. Should the need arise we can call them up to active duty, but in total wheneve rlisting my military force I count reservists.

[Post War America]

Military reserves, I'm sorry I should have been more clear, but in Vomal we have every person between the ages of 18 to 35 in the reserves as a requirement. Should the need arise we can call them up to active duty, but in total wheneve rlisting my military force I count reservists.

Then for the love of pete give a separate number of active duty troops

[Finorskia]

Americans call that socialism, I got into a three day argument with this guy who said otherwise. He pulled out all kinds of info and I realized that Americans call even slight leftism socialist, heck by American eyes all of Europe is socialist.

The only socialists in Europe are the Swedes. And now, to a point, the French. The rest of Europe is controlled by conservative parties. For the most part.

Wrong my dear friend. Sweden and most of the Scandinavian countries are social democracy nations. Which is the moderate middle that most people talk about. It combines the government regulation of Socialism with the open market of Capitalism.

Most Americans don't understand the difference between socialism and social democracy. In socialism all businesses are run by either the government or by worker co-ops.

[Vomal]

Okay fixed, now only listed is active duty military also I rounded the number up

[Western Confederation]

74,479,550 is nearly 7% of your population, and having that many people in the military would hamper your economy greatly.

That's not true, I'm sure he means the amount of active personnel and reserves combined. And I'm pretty sure he's backed with a sufficient amount of ex conscripts as well. Which is an equivalent to Russia which accounts 20 million of those.

[The New Lowlands]

Not sure why, but the incidence of this being practically already passed through the World Assembly seemed quite entertaining to me.

[Phonencia]

Nation Name: The Allied States of Vomal
National Leader(s): Prime Minister Jack Monroe
National/Most Common Religion: Unorganized Monotheism
Government Form: Democracy
Military Strength: 12,500,000 in Active Military Forces
Main Infantry Weapon: Ar-16 or the G63C
Main Battle Tank: VA "Waker" Tank
Main Fighter Plane: Phoenix II Fighter Jet (F-15 Tomcat)
Main Naval Warships: Midnight-Class Warship (Iowa-Class)
Infantry Calibers Used: 5.56x45mm NATO
Military Service Branches: Vomalian Army, Vomalian Navy, Vomalian Air Force
Infantry Body Armor: (if none type N/A)
Are You Willing to Switch to the 6.5x39mm ICE Cartridge for Your Main Rifle?: Willing to make the switch
Are You Willing to Assist in Offensive Military Operations?: Yes
List All Other Alliances You Are a Member of: N/A
Do You Want to Make a Monetary Donation to the ICE Humanitarian Branch?: At this time No
Do You Want to Make a Materiel Donation to the ICEH or Peacekeeping Corps?: At this time No
Are You In Need of Military Aid?: No
Are You Willing to Volunteer Extreme-Climate Areas of Your Nation for Training Exercises?: Yes
If Yes, List Areas and Climate: The Mountains and tundra of the Northern Expanse
Other Facts You Believe ICE Should Know About Your Nation: Currently embroiled in a war with North Arusian Rebels to help protect the country, however, a vote is on the floor to pull out and we are willing to do so if you need assistance.
Membership Type: Full

DENIED

[Doppio Giudici]

For the record, I have a number of areas that can be used to train troops in and some of the best training grounds you are likely to find. So if anyone wanted to say...have me train some portion of their forces, I could do it.

[Virana]

I recently designed a gun (the image of which can be found here, but I doubt that it would appeal to most of you.

That's actually really good. I've seen some of your lineart on MMW thread (since I follow it time to time), and I have to say you're pretty good at it.