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[Revolutionary Insurrectionary Army]

I can lend over a couple of Helicopters and a frigate for the slave ship liberation.

1x Adelaide Class frigates

2x Merlin helicopter's

16x Soldiers.

[Virana]

I can lend over a couple of Helicopters and a frigate for the slave ship liberation.

1x Adelaide Class frigates

2x Merlin helicopter's

16x Soldiers.

1. Already got a frigate. Only need one. Although it could form part of some multinational task force from which Arthurista's ffg comes from.
2. No more than 5 soldiers (7 if you've got a 2-man helicopter sniper team included). And keep in mind they aren't just "soldiers", they're highly-trained special forces. Think things like SAS/SBS, SEALs, MARSOC, SASR, Spetsnaz, etc.

EDIT: That frigate might actually help though. Haven't planned anything yet though so not sure about it.

[Arthurista]

My ORBAT for the slave ship raid:

1 x Lafayette Class stealth frigate

1 x Merlin helicopter (machine gun, rockets)

5 Arthuritan Marine Commandos

1 x assault boat.

We could take the heli but no using its rockets. If it's an attack helicopter I'd advise against it; transport helicopters with door-mounted machine guns are best for the operation.

We could use your frigate as a launch point, sort of a mothership for our forces that're gonna take this thing out. The frigate won't be launching missiles or anything, just giving the special forces a launchpad basically.

The assault boat could join in defeating the slave ship's escorts and help in boarding the slave ship as soon as the heli-borne forces arrive.

Merlins are kind of a medium transport/utility helicopter, between a sea hawk and a chinook in size. It'll have FN MAG on the door to provide covering fire. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merlin_helicopter . We can use a Lynx instead if it's too big.

[Virana]

We could take the heli but no using its rockets. If it's an attack helicopter I'd advise against it; transport helicopters with door-mounted machine guns are best for the operation.

We could use your frigate as a launch point, sort of a mothership for our forces that're gonna take this thing out. The frigate won't be launching missiles or anything, just giving the special forces a launchpad basically.

The assault boat could join in defeating the slave ship's escorts and help in boarding the slave ship as soon as the heli-borne forces arrive.

Merlins are kind of a medium transport/utility helicopter, between a sea hawk and a chinook in size. It'll have FN MAG on the door to provide covering fire. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merlin_helicopter . We can use a Lynx instead if it's too big.

Ah, gotcha. Then it's all good, since we have 25 assaulters minimum there needs to be adequate room for all of them.

[Glaswegistan]

Whilst at this stage, I am unable to commit to the war or any opening raids or skirmishes; Glaswegistan can still supply material for use in such conflicts if it helps. Sorry if this seems a bit small, but I figured I'd be better doing something than nothing.

Obviously I have no idea if any of these will help, but if any of them sound useful, just holler and I can call up the technical info for any of them not currently committed to the factbook:
Dittmar AD-95 Submachine Guns. (Definately more useful in a confined space; its low recoil, higher stopping power and compact profile are not offset by its less than admirable range in these conditions, as it is unlikely to be used at ranges that exceed its effective range)
Armistead-Sokol 11th Pattern Heavy Combat Shotguns. (Bulky, but with more of a punch than what you might expect from a bog-standard shotgun; the weight offsets the recoil somewhat, but the ammunition is heavier than that of a 12 gauge and so might not be desireable for an extended engagement. On the other hand, it is semi-automatic, so might be considered useful)
Timinsky-Boissonnealt SAR-4 Light Machine Guns. (Compact variants are available and could be used for providing heavier support above the decks or in any large areas within the ship that may be encountered; it may also be possible to rechamber it in a much smaller cartridge to reduce the risk it poses to vital systems or cargo)
Timinsky-Boissonnealt AZ-2 Anfisa Transport helicopters. (Tiltrotor transport helicopters of reasonable reliability; capable of carrying 12 men and closing the distance to the ship faster than a conventional helicopter might otherwise be capable of. Also capable of fulfilling a limited role as an attack helicopter, as it is armed with a 30mm autocannon and ten 140mm guided missiles.)
Timinsky-Boissonnealt Martel-2 Service Autorevolvers (Far less likely to be useful; low ammunition capacity but excellent stopping power, range and accuracy; only one of which will be any use in this situation. On the other hand, it's pretty much impossible to jam, for all thats worth...)

If any of the above sound useful for anyone going in there, just holler.

[Armageddon Steel Legion]

Merlins are kind of a medium transport/utility helicopter, between a sea hawk and a chinook in size. It'll have FN MAG on the door to provide covering fire. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merlin_helicopter . We can use a Lynx instead if it's too big.

Ah, gotcha. Then it's all good, since we have 25 assaulters minimum there needs to be adequate room for all of them.

I'll be putting my regiments that are listed under your command, including the Commissar-Lord.

[Ea90]

It seems to me that a group of Griffon helicopters would be perfect for us. Each one can carry two teams of five, and can be armed with several GPMGs.

[Arthurista]

Ah, gotcha. Then it's all good, since we have 25 assaulters minimum there needs to be adequate room for all of them.

I'll be putting my regiments that are listed under your command, including the Commissar-Lord.

Yep, I think I think I'll let a more experienced RP-er run my crew.

[Arthurista]

It seems to me that a group of Griffon helicopters would be perfect for us. Each one can carry two teams of five, and can be armed with several GPMGs.

In that case we better have an amphib or something as a mothership.

[Ea90]

I suppose another option is to just put all of our soldiers in one Chinook (or something similar), but I prefer the idea of lots of Griffons.

[Virana]

Got my Slave Raid ORBAT.

Task Force Scarlet Knife

U.R. Navy

(1) Jacob Keyes class modular frigate (Lyran Hatchet class)
(2) UH-1Y Venom utility helicopters
(3) Mark V Special Operations Craft

(5)-man Alpha Team - Naval Special Warfare Development Group (DEVGRU) - JSOC Special Mission Unit
(2)-man Hawk Team (sniper team) - Naval Special Warfare Team 4 (SEAL Team 4) - NSWC

I suppose another option is to just put all of our soldiers in one Chinook (or something similar), but I prefer the idea of lots of Griffons.

Nooooo, if one heli gets shot down the entire op's dead. Also, I suggest everyone place their own helicopters depending on what their military uses (no standardization restrictions), just keep them generally similar (utility/transport helicopters). I'm using Vipers. We could use up to around 5 helicopters (loading our troops in 2-3 of them, keeping the rest for support), put some troops in auxiliary boats (they can board the ship from there too), and airdrop the boats nearby the slave ship we're attacking.

... Also, yani, has IIwiki been working for the past few days? It's not for me.

[Alexiandra]

Nooooo, if one heli gets shot down the entire op's dead.

[Slavatainia]

So only around five men on the mission or on the Slaver ship?

[Phonencia]

My ORBAT for the slave ship raid:

1 x Lafayette Class stealth frigate

1 x Merlin helicopter (machine gun, rockets)

5 Arthuritan Marine Commandos

1 x assault boat.

We could take the heli but no using its rockets. If it's an attack helicopter I'd advise against it; transport helicopters with door-mounted machine guns are best for the operation.

We could use your frigate as a launch point, sort of a mothership for our forces that're gonna take this thing out. The frigate won't be launching missiles or anything, just giving the special forces a launchpad basically.

The assault boat could join in defeating the slave ship's escorts and help in boarding the slave ship as soon as the heli-borne forces arrive.

nuh-uh! The mothership will be an Imperial Navy Drake class Amphibious Assault Ship staffed with a contingent of marines, special forces, helicopters and F-36Bs.

So only around five men on the mission or on the Slaver ship?

No. Several TEAMS and each team is five men and from a different country. Alpha Team will be Imperial Navy Slavery Interdiction Operators, Bravo Team will be Emmerian Navy SEALs, and Charlie through Echo Teams will be from other ICE nations.

Here's the roster thus far

Alpha Team: DHEP Navy Slavery/Smuggling Interdiction (SSI)
Bravo Team: UR Navy SEALs
Charlie Team:
Delta Team:
Echo Team:

It seems to me that a group of Griffon helicopters would be perfect for us. Each one can carry two teams of five, and can be armed with several GPMGs.

We'll be most likely using SH-60 Seahawks as that's what the DHEP Imperial Navy uses. Why buy something new when what we have already works fine?

I recommend we all use DHEP Military issue MP7s, MP5/40s, Glock-22s and M-1014s btw. If we all bring our own guns there'll be logistics problems.

Oh, and since we'll be using SH-60 Seahawks (each cabin holds five guys) we'll need about seven or eight helis. Five for the assault teams and two or three more for the sniper teams.

Sniper Teams Roster:

Alpha Team: DHEP Imperial Marines Scout Snipers
Bravo Team: UR Navy SEAL Snipers (that alright?)
Charlie Team: *shrug* who else has good snipers?

[Arthurista]

My 5 Marine Commandos will be Charlie assault team. We use the MP7 anyway so that's all good, though retraining them to use non-issue sidearm at short notice might be a problem so they'd stick with the 9mm Sig P-226. A pair of Marine Commando snipers can work from a heli. They can use the Arctic Warfare Magnum in .338 Lapua if we want a bolt action rifle or a HK 417 if semi-auto.


We can fly our own helis from the assault ship, surely? Allied countries tend to be interoperable, NATO countries regularly fly their own aircrafts from US carriers and ships and vice versa.

[Armageddon Steel Legion]

I can use a Valkyrie to get my Storm-troopers/Grenadiers in.

So that's five of them.

Charlie Team:

Skull-taker: Shotgun, pistol, few grenades.
Death-dealer: Lucis assault rifle. Flash-bangs.
Alpha: Lucisu pattern sniper-rifle, will go with the sniper teams.
Maker:Armageddon pattern SMG. Revolver, breach-charges.
Armo: Shotgun, gas grenades. Robot, armed with two mini-guns.

My Valkyries are VTOL's, so we can use them to propel guys down then move them back to snipe.

[Virana]

I recommend we all use DHEP Military issue MP7s, MP5/40s, Glock-22s and M-1014s btw. If we all bring our own guns there'll be logistics problems.

Oh, and since we'll be using SH-60 Seahawks (each cabin holds five guys) we'll need about seven or eight helis. Five for the assault teams and two or three more for the sniper teams.

Sniper Teams Roster:

Alpha Team: DHEP Imperial Marines Scout Snipers
Bravo Team: UR Navy SEAL Snipers (that alright?)
Charlie Team: *shrug* who else has good snipers?

Since I've got my own frigate in this multinational task force, I can supply my own 6.8mm ammo and guns. My DEVGRU operators are gonna be using fully decked-out M18 assault rifles (that CLAW thing I still haven't finished) with a 10.5in super-short barrel, with all the high-level attachments (laser pointers, flashlights, VFGs/AFGs, holo sights/ACOGs/M68 CCOs, etc.). The snipers will be using SR-25EM carbine (very similar to M110 sniper, but with a URX rails, new precision stock, and suppressor), mounted with at least red dot sights (scopes are really bad for helicopter sniping).

Also I've got UH-1Y Viper helicopters in my ORBAT. They're very similar to Black Hawks/Seahawks - look em up.

[Glaswegistan]

Good news; I'll be able to come in for this, probably. If it all winds up going south, backup plan is calling in everyone who ever signed an alliance treaty with me, ever...

Got room on the raid?

[Alexiandra]

Good news; I'll be able to come in for this, probably. If it all winds up going south, backup plan is calling in everyone who ever signed an alliance treaty with me, ever...

Got room on the raid?

Hmmmm. Interesting. We're both members of the Entente... on opposite sides.

[Glaswegistan]

Good news; I'll be able to come in for this, probably. If it all winds up going south, backup plan is calling in everyone who ever signed an alliance treaty with me, ever...

Got room on the raid?

Hmmmm. Interesting. We're both members of the Entente... on opposite sides.

So switch over to the right side. (Theres a healthy dose of slaves to be looted for you once this is all over)

[Alexiandra]

Hmmmm. Interesting. We're both members of the Entente... on opposite sides.

So switch over to the right side. (Theres a healthy dose of slaves to be looted for you once this is all over)

I think I'll be an opportunistic party here. I'll pick sides ICly later. Highest bidder wins.

[Glaswegistan]

So switch over to the right side. (Theres a healthy dose of slaves to be looted for you once this is all over)

I think I'll be an opportunistic party here. I'll pick sides ICly later. Highest bidder wins.

Good thinking.

[Arthurista]

Ships-wise, I can prob put 1 Type-42 destroyer and 3 LaFayette Class stealth frigate in the multinational task force that goes on the raid. I'll mobilise my whole expeditionary ORBAT when we're officially at war.

[Castille de Italia]

Phonencia, I don't know if you still include me as a member of the ICE, but I figured I'd let you know that my government doesn't recognise it, and probably enemies with the ICE. I'm not sure if I'm on the roster or not, but I'm withdrawing whatever membership I had...

[Virana]

Ships-wise, I can prob put 1 Type-42 destroyer and 3 LaFayette Class stealth frigate in the multinational task force that goes on the raid. I'll mobilise my whole expeditionary ORBAT when we're officially at war.

I'd probably recommend keeping the contingent for the raid to one ship, preferably a small multirole ship like a frigate or maybe destroyer. It's really a very small task force (hopefully) since all the ships are responsible for is deploying special forces to take over a slave ship. Phonencia has an amphibious assault ship to serve as the main mothership, and it has a fighter contingent to provide air defense.