AMW Big Discussion Thread

[The Crooked Beat]

Quite right, all those petty European babes wouldn't know the first thing about traveling into the Heart of Darkness. It takes a firm, experienced hand (no homo!) to get those darkies in line. It'd be like asking the boyscouts, even if this metaphor's boyscouts are packing the sort of gadgetry that far exceeds that of Lpqy Magna's own. Besides, no offense Abruzi, you're going to hell. We risk the purgatory by calling upon your help.

On an unrelated note, my finals are going smashingly. Ferkas and Chemaki, I'll definitely get the ball rolling (or, in Ferkas case, rerolling) by Tuesday. Thank you both for your patience.

So.....we'll have to force a landing? Where is the Brotherly Roman love?

Or wait, I know something foolish and suitably European. I'll drop Paras into said conflict and center my involvement around a hill that shall become the Italian Strong point "Elaine"! I'm sure I can supply my men from the air....

Well, it worked in 1964, 1978, 1983, 1986, 1995, and a number of points in between. Give the French paratrooper his due, man!

Taking a few dozen heavy guns to fight a few hundred is never a good idea in any case, after all.

[Abruzi]

So.....we'll have to force a landing? Where is the Brotherly Roman love?

Or wait, I know something foolish and suitably European. I'll drop Paras into said conflict and center my involvement around a hill that shall become the Italian Strong point "Elaine"! I'm sure I can supply my men from the air....

Well, it worked in 1964, 1978, 1983, 1986, 1995, and a number of points in between. Give the French paratrooper his due, man!

Taking a few dozen heavy guns to fight a few hundred is never a good idea in any case, after all.

Yes the Paras of France have done it right a few times. I think you will find that in any circumstance La Legion > Paras. I (since I love the FFL) have my own Foreign Legion so when it comes down to the nity grity and I need volunteers to relieve the brave men on Elaine, you can bet a large Italian Man (with a beard) named Bruno is going to lead a relieve force of Paras and Legionnaires.

To avoid too many parallels though I'll have to forgo having the Angel of Dien Bien Phu represented....aww.

[The ByzantineDiscidium]

[/clumsy pitch]

I do like the idea of a combined news thread, especially if it gives me a soap box platform to lash out at interact with all my God-forsaken infidel neighbours.

[Belgeland]

Combined news thread sounds like a good idea to me.

Anyway, I'm thinking of introducing Belgeland with a nice ol' trade summit. Basically it would be a chance for the world's finance ministers to get drunk, make use of liberal drug and prostitution laws, talk about global trade in a self-important manner and maybe sign a free trade agreement or two. Sound good?

Any thoughts about this? The idea would be that every nation would be invited to such an event, and many could be there but in the background if they were not particularly interested in roleplaying things like container standardisation.

[Jatriqya and Hoya]

I also like the idea of a combined new thread.

[Maxen von Bismarck]

Combined news thread sounds like a good idea to me.

Anyway, I'm thinking of introducing Belgeland with a nice ol' trade summit. Basically it would be a chance for the world's finance ministers to get drunk, make use of liberal drug and prostitution laws, talk about global trade in a self-important manner and maybe sign a free trade agreement or two. Sound good?

Any thoughts about this? The idea would be that every nation would be invited to such an event, and many could be there but in the background if they were not particularly interested in roleplaying things like container standardisation.

Count me in.

[Kyr Shorn]

So I guess we have a consensus for a Global AMW Newsthread on NS, all we need is a neat graphic for it and someone here who wants to have the honor can get the ball rolling.

[Old Tyrannia]

So I guess we have a consensus for a Global AMW Newsthread on NS, all we need is a neat graphic for it and someone here who wants to have the honor can get the ball rolling.

I'm mostly indifferent to the idea, as the UKSS just censors most foreign news anyway.

[Europe - Prussia]

Well, now that most of us have agreeded to create a global AMW news thread. But, and like Kyr said, who's going to have the honor of start it?

[Abruzi]

Well, now that most of us have agreeded to create a global AMW news thread. But, and like Kyr said, who's going to have the honor of start it?

I have an idea guise! Someone write an article like the "Yes Virginia, there is a Santa Claus" thing the New York papers did in the 1800s. Or not, just a thought.

[Walmington on Sea]

Well, since this seems to be a popular idea, I suppose we'll go ahead with it. Unless anybody else jumps in to do it while I'm having Christmas dinner, which would probably be fine, I'll put up a thread probably tonight.

I'd also like to suggest that if anyone wants to post a news story about their country that maybe their national media wouldn't touch, they're welcome to attribute it to The Standard, Walmington's 260-odd year old national broadsheet, which is at least supposed to be neutral. Being an empire-wide paper it is already printed in English in North America, Africa, and Asia, so is self-regarding as a founding father of the modern global media. I'll probably divide my own stories between that and The Bugle, and may publish some stories on Dra-pol via The Standard since Da'Khiem's own press will doubtless ignore or edit a lot of potential stories relating to the CPRD.

[Chrinthanium]

A New Chrinthani History.......

Upon second thought, I deleted the previously posted idea to do an idea I once had. I will incorporate Romans and Walmington into this history as you will see below. This was an idea from a previous NS nation of mine, and I stumbled upon this while doing some cleaning. I liked this idea and though that I would raise it up the flag pole to see who'd salute it. Tribal names of Aboriginals are all made up now, and I've written in the Romans, but they may not actually be needed now. I'll see.

History of the Imperial Federation of Chrinthanium

Kingdom of Chrinthanium

The origins of Chrinthanium are shrouded in time, but most point back to the year 400 CE as the beginning of the Kingdom of the Chrinthani's. At that time, the Chrinthani tribe--a group of Aboriginals who were white as opposed their fellow natives, lived along the tropical shores of what is now known as the Gulf of Carpentaria. They began to organize a system of government which worked like a monarchy. Over a period of time, the Kai-io (which means Chief in Chrinthani) became known as Ko-io, which means King.

The continent itself was divided among seven powerful tribes, the Chrinthani being one of them. The North Central portion was split between the Dari Tribe and the Chrinthani. The Eastern third controlled by the very powerful Koro-io Tribe. The South central controlled by the Iaka and southwest controlled by the Mehecans, and the West-central portions controlled by the Aka-lo Tribe, and the Northwestern areas controlled by the Haki and Teka-ro.

The region itself was visited several times by vestages of the Roman Empire in their attempt to trade and increase their own wealth. Between the times of Nero until Theodosius I, several missions to this new continent--named by the Romans as Chrinthanis Australis (Golden Land of the South)--occured in which they traded with a friendly native tribe, whom they called the Chrinthani. The Romans, who enjoyed a type of friendship with the Chrinthani, taught the hospitable tribe the ways of Roman warfare. They also traded Roman weapons for gold, silver and copper which seemed to flow from the very Earth like water from a spring.

Some of these adventurous Romans who travelled to this far-flung landmass decided to stay and learn the ways of the Chrinthani. An amicable relationship ensured through the years. The Romans would water-down the Latin language and blend it with Chrinthani words to make a sort of Barbar-Latin language that could be used between the two peoples. The language would be similar to relationship between Pijin and Acadzian. In fact, the relationship between the Romans and the Chrinthani was so great that the Romans had ideas of their own. They would prop up their friends, the Chrinthani, against their neighbors.

From 400CE until around 700CE, the Chrinthani lived in piece with their neighbors despite the best intentions of the meddling Romans. However, in 708CE, the tribe of the Dari decided to make war upon the Chrinthani after several skirmishes deteriorated relations. Halcyon Chrinthan, the King at the time, ordered his army to fight the outnumbering Dari. Through guerrilla tactics, the Chrinthani tribe was able to defeat the Dari tribe at the Darian (Beagle) Gulf in 732CD. In response to their defeat, the lands of the Dari became a part of the Chrinthani tribe homeland. However, the war with the Dari left the Chrinthani tribe vulnerable to attacks from other neighboring tribes. Their territorial gains would grant them a vast swath of the North Central portion of the continent.

The Great Tribal Wars

After the defeat of the Dari, a period of war began for the Chrinthani. Many of the neighboring tribes began to feel threatened by this fledgling, upstart tribe that seemed to be gaining in the ways of warfare. Starting in 725, and continuing until 1010, the borders of what was the Chrinthani Kingdom continued to be assaulted by the neighboring tribes.

In 1325, the Koro-io Tribe invaded the lands of the Chrinthani Kingdom, destroying the lush farmlands that fed the people of the Chrinthani Tribe. In response, King Halcyon Chrinthan ordered the armies to "burn the Koro-io to the ground. Indeed, burn them off the face of the planet." A terrible fire attack ensued against the Koro-io. Many towns and villages, schools and markets were burned to the ground. The Koro-io, who feared for the lives of their people, surrendered to the Kinstan tribe in 929CE. At this time, it became common practice to enslave the enemy to fight for the Chrinthani.

In 933CE, the leader of the Mehecans sent a letter to the leader of the Aka-lo and the Haki to form an offensive against the oppressive regime of the Chrinthani tribe. At this time, the chrinthani became known for their barbaric, brutal tactics in enslaving conquered tribes. The leader of the Mehecans was attempting to free his friends from the once great Dari and Koro-io tribes.

In the summer of 933CE, a massive army gathered outside the gates of the Chrinthani Tribal nation. 150,000 men, armed with the weapons of the day--some given to them by the visiting Romans over the period of the last five hundred years. Inside the gates, 57,000 Chrinthani prepared for what was supposed to be their last night alive.

King Tralian, who had just recently come to power, decided that he would much rather fight than die in the night and ordered his archers to make ready along the walls of the nation. Every man, woman and child of the Chrinthani tribal nation armed themselves with bows and arrows. In a daring surprise attack, the Chrinthani began firing their arrows over the walls of the nation, blanketing the sky. In the initial attack, the histories say that one in three of the enemy forces were killed in this initial attack. Not wanting to withstand more loses, the coalition outside of the Chrinthani walls decided to regroup and plan a more strategic tactic. This, however, became a fatal mistake. The Iaka heard of the events taking place outside the Chrinthani nation, and outflanked the retreating peoples in defense of their friends with whom they'd shared a fragile peace over the centuries.

In 934CE, King Tralian declared victory over the Mehecans, Haki and the Aka-lo, and absorbed their lands and peoples into the Chrinthani tribal nation. The armies and the people of the defeated tribes were enslaved into the Chrinthani army once again.

In 1355,King Tralian decided that the Chrinthani tribal nation was to once again make war on its neighbors. Fearing that the always turbulent alliances with the Iaka would fail once again, he decided to make war on them. This time, the Chrinthani army numbered 250,000 as they marched towards the two remaining tribes. The Iaka, who could only muster around 50,000 for their army surrendered without fighting in an attempt to save lives. Tralian then turned his attention to the Teka-ro, the final tribe, in 970.

The Teka-ro were not caught unaware of Tralians indulgence into their territorial lands. The Teka-ro army had been enforcing a defensive perimeter around their native lands. Their defense, which consisted of moats, traps, and hidden small platoons, created havoc for the invading Chrinthani. The histories states that around 50,000 people died trying to invade the Teka-ro homeland. The problem for the Teka-ro was that the Chrinthani army stood somewhere around 300,000 strong, and the Teka-ro, who were the smallest tribe on the continent, only had 30,000 troops to defend with. By sheer numbers, the Chrinthani armies marched into the capitol of the Teka-ro, and captured their chief. Chief Arnestian was beheaded in the town center when Tralians demands of surrender were not met. The Teka-ro army, not able to withstand the numbers in the Chrinthani army, surrendered themselves to the control of the Chrinthani in 1010CE.

The Chrinthani Empire

In 1011, King Tralian had been in power for 67 years. The Chrinthani peoples loved their King who brought them great glory. He declared himself emperor in January of 1011 in the tradition of their friends, the Romans. Unfortunately, Tralians health was failing. He was 81 years old, and suffering from pneumonia. He took a piece of paper and a pen and wrote out what was essentially his last will and testament. In it, he named his successor, his son Janis, to take over at his death. Three days later, Tralian died. After the funeral for Emperor Tralian, the Chrinthani army hailed Janis, son of Tralian, as King of the Chrinthani peoples. At the passing of each monarch thereafter, the Chrinthani army hailed the new Chrinthani Emperor, from the line of Chrinthan.

Janis was a good king. He built cities, introduced roads and irrigation to the Kinstan lands, which had became known as the Imperium Chrinthani. His biggest contribution was creating a specific line of succession so that the royal family could rule forever. For just over 400 years after Janis' rule, the Chrinthani people prospered under the Pax Chrinthani (Chrinthani Peace).

Walmingtonian Years (1523-1732)

In 1520, Sir Harold Wendsleybury sailed from Walmington on Sea on his historic voyage to seek out new territory for Walmington. Three years later, he would find the land talked about in Roman lore, this Chrinthanium. The society of the Chrinthani continent would seem like relic from years past as it functioned much like the Roman Empire had done long ago. The language, a definite derivation of true Latin, would be difficult for Sir Harold to learn.

No matter what the intentions of Sir Harold, the Chrinthani were welcoming of these peoples who came from across the sea--much like they were with the Romans over a millenium earlier. The Chrinthani quickly took in their new friends and taught them Chrinthani--a combination of native words and Latin mixed together. Sir Harold would teach them Acadzian. This mutually beneficial relationship flourished for five years.

However, as more Walmingtonians arrived in Chrinthanium, the Chrinthani grew weary of their new-found friends. The Walmingtonians weren't just visiting for trading and education purposes. Portions of the Walmingtonian army became stationed in the new land. Walmingtonian colonies sprang up on Chrinthani lands. Walmingtonians seemed to adhere to their own laws and not the laws of the land. Emperor Lutus in 1529 requested Sir Harold, the man in charge of the Walmingtonian colonies, to come to the capital--near what would be later known as Darwin.

[Fill in with some stuff between Walmington and myself]

By the late 1600s, small Walmingtonian trading towns became the dominant locations along the Chrinthani coast. Their populations, growing exponentially with waves of Walmingtonians, Byzantines, French, and various other European and Asian influences, would begin to give the Chrinthani's a feeling that they soon would find a fate similar to the Roman Empire.

Henry Robinson -- The Father of the Empire

In 1710, in Darwin, a woman named Julia Robinson gave birth to her son, Henry. Little did they know that they had given birth to the man who would free Chrinthanium of Walmingtonian infiltration, and give their homeland a return to their old way of life--to an extent.

Henry was a good child. He was well behaved and excelled at school. His father recommended that he join the Chrinthani Guard, and in 1720, he did. He would quickly prove that he was a cunning man, capable and daring. His positions on the Chrinthani self-governance, which was essentially removed by the interfering Walmingtonians, would cause him to seek out men who believed that Chrinthanium should throw off this unwelcomed subjegation. In 1722, he led a small group of about 20 Chrinthani Guards to the Walmingtonian depots near Darwin. In a daring plot, he would blow up the Walmingtonian arms depots. In a spectacular display, he would intitate the Freedom Movement in Chrinthanium.

News of such outlandish and outright threats against the Walmingtonians quickly forced the colonizers to push against the Chrinthani's. The valuable trading routes which they'd set up could be jeopardized by such insulence. However, the Walmingonians were unable to pinpoint exactly who orchestrated such a plot. They decided to punish the town instead. In the 1723 Darwin fire, 197 Chrinthani's lost their lives as the Walmington Army burned the town to the ground.

Such an attack only served to bolster support for Henry's movement. By the hundreds, men, women and children began to volunteer for Henry's Freedom Army. Over two years, he built a well trained militia of around 4,000 people.

In 1726, he led his small army on mission to sabbotage Walmingtonian strongholds throughout the Chrinthani territories. Everything from raiding Walmingtonian supply routes, to destroying boat docks would be employed in his plot. Those actions would lead the Walmingtonian to employ their fully-trained, well-regulated military against the menacing Chrinthani people.

In November 1726, the Walmingtonians posted a ranson for the head of Henry Robinson. In December, they attempted to infiltrate his Freedom army to no avail. In February of 1727 the first strike against Henry came when the Walmingtonian government issued an arrest warrent. The charge being High Treason for Crime committed against His Walmingtonian Majesty. The arrest warrent would become a flash point.

The Chrinthani Freedom Army would declare war against Walmington on March 1, 1727. During the war, the Chrinthani Senate would appoint Henry as Dictator, giving him de facto executive power while the war raged on. Within five years, they would beat the better equipped and trained Walmingtonian Army on August 1 1932.


(Here is where I need Walmington's input on this. For Sir Harold will eventually be beheaded, sparking conflict between the Chrinthani and the Walmingtonians, leading to a war in which Walmington would take over Chrinthanium, but then lose it again in a second war which ends in 1732.)

The rest of Chrinthani history after 1732 would remain the same.

What do you all think?

[Maxen von Bismarck]

As someone who is quite far away from Chrinthanium, I don't have the right grasp on the regional history as I should but it does seem to be one smashing jam.

[Old Tyrannia]

As someone who is quite far away from Chrinthanium, I don't have the right grasp on the regional history as I should but it does seem to be one smashing jam.

Indeed. We Africans don't have time to worry about the rest of the world- we're too busy arguing over who is better, Christ or Horus. (Obviously it's Horus, whatever those Western Areo capitalists say).

[Chemaki]

As someone who is quite far away from Chrinthanium, I don't have the right grasp on the regional history as I should but it does seem to be one smashing jam.

Indeed. We Africans don't have time to worry about the rest of the world- we're too busy arguing over who is better, Christ or Horus. (Obviously it's Horus, whatever those Western Areo capitalists say).

Ghamadulla? Anyone?

*Raises Ghaman-Islamic flag*

I have an AK...

[Chrinthanium]

Thanks, Africa, for chiming in. Anyone else before this becomes canon? Walmington, I want to work out our history between 1523 and 1732

[Maxen von Bismarck]

Africa: the place where amazing* happens.

_{*Religious conflict, genocide, oppression ect}

*high fives OT, Chemaki*

Is this the discussion thread? Yes, so let's discuss Africa.

Me, Chemaki and Kemet are The Good, The Bad and The Ugly of Africa. We've spent enough minutes basking in the brilliance that is Leone and now it's time for a good Mexican stand-off. How? I'm not sure. I heard Chemaki threw some ideas around but I'm willing, especially if Abream turns out to be serious, to start a fairly large conflict. It'll give me a reason to finally flesh out my military, at any rate.

[Chemaki]

Africa: the place where amazing* happens.

_{*Religious conflict, genocide, oppression ect}

*high fives OT, Chemaki*

Is this the discussion thread? Yes, so let's discuss Africa.

Me, Chemaki and Kemet are The Good, The Bad and The Ugly of Africa. We've spent enough minutes basking in the brilliance that is Leone and now it's time for a good Mexican stand-off. How? I'm not sure. I heard Chemaki threw some ideas around but I'm willing, especially if Abream turns out to be serious, to start a fairly large conflict. It'll give me a reason to finally flesh out my military, at any rate.

Yeah, we need to all get our heads together and think this out - It's going to be a really large scale thing. I'll prep my military.



Prepped.

[Old Tyrannia]

Africa: the place where amazing* happens.

_{*Religious conflict, genocide, oppression ect}

*high fives OT, Chemaki*

Is this the discussion thread? Yes, so let's discuss Africa.

Me, Chemaki and Kemet are The Good, The Bad and The Ugly of Africa. We've spent enough minutes basking in the brilliance that is Leone and now it's time for a good Mexican stand-off. How? I'm not sure. I heard Chemaki threw some ideas around but I'm willing, especially if Abream turns out to be serious, to start a fairly large conflict. It'll give me a reason to finally flesh out my military, at any rate.

Yeah, we need to all get our heads together and think this out - It's going to be a really large scale thing. I'll prep my military.



Prepped.

And the response from the UKSS...


Are you ready to die, comrade?

[Chemaki]

Awww, get out! :<

(Of our opressive, obtuse, poverty-stricken, religiously fanatical country)

[Old Tyrannia]

Awww, get out! :<

(Image)

Mine's bigger

[Chemaki]

Well, just have to call in our 12, yes, TWELVE plane air force to shoot it down then. And about 50 assorted helicopters.

:3

[Hironeidan]

I could use some discussion with some Inkas about our likely border tensions and other historical... Things.

[Chrinthanium]

Ah, the children of Africa are playing. It warms my heart to see such li'l munchkins playing withh their toys. Of course that continent is already a shithole, so why not invade Europe with a combined military?

[Chemaki]

We are only interested in seizing Kemet, The Excharte, The Saudi Arabian Peninsula, Asia Minor, and Central Asia. Those are the countries where Islam has been supressed, and they shall be liberated with our new technological advances. *Primes roadside bomb*