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Abruzi
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Postby Abruzi » Sun Feb 20, 2011 6:45 pm

Old Tyrannia wrote:
Old Tyrannia wrote:Since we no longer have a Uyghur Khanate, I wonder if anyone would be interested in replacing them in Socotra's history? Ideally I'd like a colonial power, like Walmington or France, as I originally intended before the Uyghur player (I can't even remember his name now) offered, but the Marathas would do.

So, no takers? Are you all just too scared to face up to the awesomeness of Kemet?


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Postby Tahuantinsuyu Empire » Thu Mar 24, 2011 8:33 pm

The fact that I keep coming back to this thought probably answers my questions for me. Much as I love Tahuantinsuyu, I don't think it's ever really going to work in AMW, is it?

I'm thinking of applying to go back to my AMW roots. I don't know if anyone actually remembers Al Khals, now that the Likes of Tias and Lusaka are gone, but it would potentially put me back in the modern world and the thick of the action.

Having said that, I'm not going to let TE go completely, but perhaps it would work just as well as a side project outside of AMW. When inspiration strikes, I could still work on the factbook, post crap in the National Information forum, and have closed RPs to which AMWers (such as Chrinthanium, with his shipwrecked lot) are invited.

Would anyone drop by, once in a while, for non-AMW Inka threads? Would anyone mind if I brought back Omar Qottar and his Ba'ath Republic? I'm thinking maybe the unclaimed south of the Arabian peninsula, if it is indeed still unclaimed (Yemen, Oman, UAE, about 32m people with petrochemical wealth and a government struggling with conflicting tribal loyalties and central interference in the economy).

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Maxen von Bismarck
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Postby Maxen von Bismarck » Thu Mar 24, 2011 8:37 pm

*shrugs*

Sure!
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Postby Kyr Shorn » Thu Mar 24, 2011 8:38 pm

That sounds neat, though considering that your neigbour is a Christian Crusader state and AMW is now in the middle of the "Second Great War", or a WWII in the modern era (sans nuclear weapons... yet), you should put thought into your military before you do anything else.

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Nilz the free
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My land

Postby Nilz the free » Thu Mar 24, 2011 8:48 pm

Is Australia or New Zealand free?

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Postby Maxen von Bismarck » Thu Mar 24, 2011 9:08 pm

Nilz the free wrote:Is Australia or New Zealand free?


I'm afraid not.
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Postby Abruzi » Fri Mar 25, 2011 1:26 pm

Just so everyone can see,

I can only post with quality on weekends. So during the week, forgive me if I'm online but not posting, I'm chillin on IRC.

Also, posts coming tonight.
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Nilz the free
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Land

Postby Nilz the free » Fri Mar 25, 2011 2:40 pm

Then are either Tasmania, Victoria island or Iceland free?

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Postby Iansisle » Fri Mar 25, 2011 3:17 pm

Why don't you try telling us your idea and we'll help you figure out where it'll fit in?

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Chrinthanium
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Postby Chrinthanium » Mon Mar 28, 2011 3:36 pm

Walmington, just a note because I wanted to ask if you could hit moderation and get the new post by the nonAMWer off the news thread. Normally I wouldn't ask this, but it is rather long and, well, out of place. With NS' idea of thread ownership, it requires the OP to make the request.

The linky: viewtopic.php?p=5176681#p5176681
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Chemaki
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Postby Chemaki » Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:45 am

Chrinthanium wrote:Walmington, just a note because I wanted to ask if you could hit moderation and get the new post by the nonAMWer off the news thread. Normally I wouldn't ask this, but it is rather long and, well, out of place. With NS' idea of thread ownership, it requires the OP to make the request.

The linky: viewtopic.php?p=5176681#p5176681


Even so, he seems good - Mabye we should invite him to AMW? *Puts fingers together menacingly*

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Maxen von Bismarck
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Postby Maxen von Bismarck » Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:50 am

Chemaki wrote:
Chrinthanium wrote:Walmington, just a note because I wanted to ask if you could hit moderation and get the new post by the nonAMWer off the news thread. Normally I wouldn't ask this, but it is rather long and, well, out of place. With NS' idea of thread ownership, it requires the OP to make the request.

The linky: viewtopic.php?p=5176681#p5176681


Even so, he seems good - Mabye we should invite him to AMW? *Puts fingers together menacingly*


I don't see why not. Perhaps this is his way of saying "I want to join, but my pride keeps me from asking?"

Also, Chemaki, check your TGs in a few minutes!
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Chemaki
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Postby Chemaki » Wed Apr 13, 2011 12:52 pm

What, where, who, why!?

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Belgeland
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Postby Belgeland » Wed Apr 13, 2011 1:00 pm

Well, that was anti-climactic. Does nobody want a war? :(

On that subject . . . to the telegram machine!

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Postby Maxen von Bismarck » Wed Apr 13, 2011 1:30 pm

Take that godless atheism! ;)

Onward to secularism!
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Chrinthanium
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Postby Chrinthanium » Wed Apr 13, 2011 3:05 pm

What are you going to do to secularism? Shake your boney finger at it and tisk? Muahahahahahaha! The secularists will rule the WORLD! MUAHAHAHAHAHA!
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Nova Gaul
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Postby Nova Gaul » Wed Apr 13, 2011 4:02 pm

Hey all. I just wanted to state somewhere that the Papal States (in Italy, Malta, the Kingdom of Jerusalem, and the Transjordan) would not have a stock market of their own—for clerical and moral reasons—however companies and persons in the Papal States do trade on the Florentine Exchange. Also, given the very close historical, political, and indeed familial relations between Rome and Florence I imagine the papal currency, the Solidus, heavily based on the gold standard, is pegged to the Florentine Lira, which I imagine is a far more mixed currency and therefore has much more liquidity.

So, just wanted to get that in writing somewhere.
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Postby Chrinthanium » Wed Apr 13, 2011 4:05 pm

Well, Chrinthanium has its own in-house stock exchange for Chrinthani traders, but I was under the impression that the major world exchange is in Belgeland. That's the big one that really dictates the markets.
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Nova Gaul
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Postby Nova Gaul » Wed Apr 13, 2011 6:07 pm

Good point Chrin. I don’t know if it is officially posted elsewhere (apologies if it is) but this may be a good time to officially recognize the Antwerp Exchange as A Modern World’s premier stock market, a market which is participatory de rigueur for any country that does serious business. This is also critically important should Acadzia leave us, and we lose the London Exchange. I think the only other major market is Cass’s, but it seems like Nibelunc is somewhat less influential economically (comparatively speaking of course, the Nib market is perhaps the strongest overall in AMW) so it would make sense for their traders to defer, somewhat, to Belgeland.

In any case Rome would conduct its trade by proxy with the Florentine Exchange, which I imagine has its market in Genoa, Milan, or indeed Florence itself. Ergo although papal economies would be accessible through the Antwerp Exchange they would sort of be channeled through the Florentines.

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Postby Jatriqya and Hoya » Wed Apr 13, 2011 6:21 pm

Don't let anyone forget the Beirut Stock Exchange! Based in the Byzantine Empire, with one of the most stable currencies in the world, it currently serves the Middle East in all of its stock needs! (You know, oil...?) While Byzantine Stock Exchanges may have lost since the advent of Belgeland, the Beirut Stock Exchange is without doubt the largest in the region.

NG: I'm wondering if Jerusalem-based companies might not be trading in the Beirut Stock Exchange - same time zone, a short drive away...

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Postby Nova Gaul » Wed Apr 13, 2011 6:38 pm

As a regional hub, I’m fairly certain the Kingdom of Jerusalem would trade with the Beirut Market. But the major deals would be done through brokers in Florence who are, of course, intimately connected to the religious government in Rome. And perhaps the Florentines would in turn take that material to trade in Antwerp. And if this conglomerate between the five states does end up taking off, although I am sure there are good regional markets in Lpqy Magna, St. Paul, and even maybe Dodoma I suspect the hub might end up being Florence (it being the wealthiest of the five states I think) which will in turn do business in Antwerp, Randgriz, Beirut, Sydney, and many other places. I have to say I really like the way Italy is in AMW, with a mix of Rome, Florence, and Valendia, it does feel very Renaissance.

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Postby Maxen von Bismarck » Wed Apr 13, 2011 7:57 pm

I thought I might put this in writing, but the vast majority of Areopagite finance moves through Antwerp, or whatever the finance capital is according to Unreal. I'm not sure how Lpqic Orthodoxy feels about ursury (on a minor note, shame on you Firefox for not recognizing the word!) but I am certain that there are deep reservations about banking (not to mention more advance corporate finance) within my little Exarchate.

After all, Dante put bankers (er, practitioners of ursury if there ever were) with blasphemers and sodomites in the 7th Circle. If that doesn't tell you something... ;)
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Old Tyrannia
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Postby Old Tyrannia » Thu Apr 14, 2011 2:05 am

Maxen von Bismarck wrote:I thought I might put this in writing, but the vast majority of Areopagite finance moves through Antwerp, or whatever the finance capital is according to Unreal. I'm not sure how Lpqic Orthodoxy feels about ursury (on a minor note, shame on you Firefox for not recognizing the word!) but I am certain that there are deep reservations about banking (not to mention more advance corporate finance) within my little Exarchate.

After all, Dante put bankers (er, practitioners of ursury if there ever were) with blasphemers and sodomites in the 7th Circle. If that doesn't tell you something... ;)

The reason it doesn't recognise the word is that you mean usury. I think.
Being Communist, I imagine Kemet doesn't have a stock exchange. Most businesses are owned by the State. Some small independant businesses would exist, though. Anyway, this aside, I think that Antwerp would be the perfect AMW Wall Street. Following the coup, the UKSS might become more Capitalistic, or less, depending on who replaces Leonidakis as Premier.
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Postby Maxen von Bismarck » Thu Apr 14, 2011 8:45 am

Old Tyrannia wrote:
Maxen von Bismarck wrote:I thought I might put this in writing, but the vast majority of Areopagite finance moves through Antwerp, or whatever the finance capital is according to Unreal. I'm not sure how Lpqic Orthodoxy feels about ursury (on a minor note, shame on you Firefox for not recognizing the word!) but I am certain that there are deep reservations about banking (not to mention more advance corporate finance) within my little Exarchate.

After all, Dante put bankers (er, practitioners of ursury if there ever were) with blasphemers and sodomites in the 7th Circle. If that doesn't tell you something... ;)

The reason it doesn't recognise the word is that you mean usury. I think.
Being Communist, I imagine Kemet doesn't have a stock exchange. Most businesses are owned by the State. Some small independant businesses would exist, though. Anyway, this aside, I think that Antwerp would be the perfect AMW Wall Street. Following the coup, the UKSS might become more Capitalistic, or less, depending on who replaces Leonidakis as Premier.


Oopa! No wonder. Thank you for pointing that out OT.

In my defense, I had just finished smoking when I wrote that post.
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Postby Belgeland » Thu Apr 14, 2011 11:07 am

Just to add confusion to everything, Antwerp is home to one of the three main stock exchanges in Belgeland. Brussel* and Luxemburg* both have exchanges as well, however, Antwerp probably does the majority of the international trading. As far as you are all concerned, feel free to say that your companies are listed on either the Antwerp or Brussel exchanges.

On a side note, it's spelt usury, Max. ;)

*Belgen (Dutch) spellings.

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