AMW Big Discussion Thread

[The Crooked Beat]

Hmm...

Probably have no real right to chime in on this, having commented on precious little as of late, and certainly I'm not going to stand in the way of any consensus that might develop.

It is of course something that we've tried before (though longer ago than I'd really care to admit!), though I guess I'm a bit unsure of what we could expect a reboot or a reset or a complete start-over to accomplish. In my own very humble opinion, AMW as of right now has a lot of very good, very interesting pieces, and a lot of potential for profitable and entertaining RP, and if there's something we need to work on, it is making better use of what we already have. Clearly AMW at the moment is already an extremely nebulous creature, and so much about it is in total flux that it seems as though we're almost in a state of permanent reboot. And then there's the fact that we can't expect anyone to abandon a concept that they feel is working, which begs the question how much would an official reboot/restart really change?

The problem of having AMWers drop out without warning or explanation is obviously one we've yet to resolve adequately, and it's both a major inconvenience and a disappointment, from an RP perspective, to lose these puzzle-pieces in the middle of the albeit very slow-moving game. I'm just not sure it is something we can ever expect to totally guard against, and while a lot of us clearly feel a very strong attachment to this little project of ours, who's to say what will happen out in the real world?

For my own part, I'm definitely ok with people moving and shifting around until they find something that seems to work. That kind of a process isn't going to cost us very much under the present circumstances, and I don't think we'd want to tie anyone to a nation which doesn't necessarily appeal.

Just another heap of disorganized thoughts really from yours truly.

[Chrinthanium]

Hmm...

Probably have no real right to chime in on this, having commented on precious little as of late, and certainly I'm not going to stand in the way of any consensus that might develop.

It is of course something that we've tried before (though longer ago than I'd really care to admit!), though I guess I'm a bit unsure of what we could expect a reboot or a reset or a complete start-over to accomplish. In my own very humble opinion, AMW as of right now has a lot of very good, very interesting pieces, and a lot of potential for profitable and entertaining RP, and if there's something we need to work on, it is making better use of what we already have. Clearly AMW at the moment is already an extremely nebulous creature, and so much about it is in total flux that it seems as though we're almost in a state of permanent reboot. And then there's the fact that we can't expect anyone to abandon a concept that they feel is working, which begs the question how much would an official reboot/restart really change?

The problem of having AMWers drop out without warning or explanation is obviously one we've yet to resolve adequately, and it's both a major inconvenience and a disappointment, from an RP perspective, to lose these puzzle-pieces in the middle of the albeit very slow-moving game. I'm just not sure it is something we can ever expect to totally guard against, and while a lot of us clearly feel a very strong attachment to this little project of ours, who's to say what will happen out in the real world?

For my own part, I'm definitely ok with people moving and shifting around until they find something that seems to work. That kind of a process isn't going to cost us very much under the present circumstances, and I don't think we'd want to tie anyone to a nation which doesn't necessarily appeal.

Just another heap of disorganized thoughts really from yours truly.

There'd be zero point if people just reclaimed and redid everything they have already. It was just a thought to maybe shake up AMW and potentially try something a tad different for all of us. The idea isn't gaining any steam, so probably not going to happen anyway.

[Chrinthanium]

I have a question for you, TCB...

With Cass's Nordic claim not coming along... are you keeping Norway and Sweden?

[The Crooked Beat]

Hi everyone!

Finally have something up about Sumatra, just a start but perhaps something for people to bite into. Here it is:

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=446255

[Saint-Laurent]

Hi all! For our members not on Discord, my introduction thread is up here:
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=446357

[Saint-Laurent]

Would the members of AMW who wish to have relations with Saint-Laurent please go to Google Maps / Earth and let me know where you'd like your embassies and consulates placed? I'll need the GPS coordinates so that I can plot them on my own Google Earth file.

Port-au-Prince is the capital for embassies
Havana and Kingston will be the other major cities for consulates

[The Crooked Beat]

Hi everyone!

Hmm, while I'd imagine that Gandvik would at the very least maintain an embassy in Saint-Laurent, whether or not diplomatic relations happen to be particularly strong or even all that friendly, I'm not quite sure where it would go. Probably in the embassy quarter, more or less? Probably not very helpful to you...

Also, I was just wondering again about the status of Norway and Sweden. Cass sketched out a claim covering that particular geography, though I don't believe it was ever formally (for what it's worth) submitted for approval, and since then I remember someone else, though to my discredit I can't exactly remember who (and can't be bothered, at this time of night, to scroll back through discord), proposing another Norway/Sweden Viking-esque project. Either one of these has my approval, and I suppose I'd lean towards Cass as the first applicant, but most of all I was hoping to work out exactly what's going on there.

I'm feeling, as usual, strongly indecisive about whether or not, in the event of no active claims on Norway and Sweden, to re-annex the area to Gandvik. If I do, I'd like to do so more or less permanently, to cut down on the historical disruptions and to establish Gandvik clearly as either a naval power of some consequence or one of no real consequence. Then again, it is always useful to keep a bit of free territory in ever-crowded Europe, and having spent an absurd amount of time cribbing-together a military from the bits and pieces of never-built projects, it would be inconvenient to re-absorb the spread of Swedish equipment (not that this is in any way a good justification).

In any event, once again I'll encourage Walmington to expand into Scania if nothing else.

[Chrinthanium]

I'm still alive. I just don't have anything to write about.

[Kyr Shorn]

Since for some reason I can't get chat to display to talk to people in AMW, I'm just going to post this here.

I've been bitten by the bug again and I want to rejoin AMW, I have an idea for a nation but I want to spitball it here before staking a formal claim.

1. The Empire of New Albion.

Land Claim: Virginia, Kentucky, Tennessee, North and South Carolina, Florida, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, Arkansas, Texas, Oklahoma, New Mexico, Colorado, remaining parts of Missouri.

Rough History: The Empire of New Albion was born out of a series of colonies established in the southern parts of continental North America by a number of European nations that came to be dominated by Great Britain. Issues over governance, slavery, and taxation escalated to a full scale revolt and revolution that saw the establishment of the Confederation of New Albion, known in New Albion as 'the Old Republic', despite the irony that the Old Republic was controlled by a handful of wealthy slave owning families.

However the young republic fell into conflict with it's former mother land within a generation and was defeated in a humiliating war in the early 19th century and the Old Republic was replaced by a monarch selected by Great Britain from a member of it's royal family, the Kingdom of New Albion (or the Kingdom Era) saw the reign of <insert dynasty here> during the early to mid 19th century and thrived while expanding westward and establishing a booming plantation economy.

Until the reign of <insert King here> who gave into international pressure to end slavery in New Albion detonated a second revolution that saw the Kingdom ended in favor of a 'restored' Confederation (known as the Junta) which was just a brutal dictatorship that held onto power while struggling to industrialize the very rural nation until a disastrous war with <insert nation here> saw the Junta face several full-scale revolts within New Albion, an ambitious young officer in the New Albionese military named Edric Carter however led the Junta to victory and in the process seized power as President and ruled for a number of years before his ambitions led him to proclaiming himself Emperor.

Thus the Empire of New Albion was born near the dawn of the 20th century and Emperor Edric I presented it as a break from the humiliating past. However even while New Albion became more 'modern', it still failed to grapple with it's past, behind nostalgia for the Old Republic and the Kingdom Eras, the dark specter of slavery and racial inequality haunted the Empire. The Great War saw New Albion join <insert faction here> and in the aftermath saw the rise of the Civil Rights movement amongst the various Non-Caucasian populations of the Empire. Seeing the real possibility of a third revolution in New Albion, Emperor Edric III abolished the racist policies of the Empire in the 1950's (some of which went back to the Old Republic) but in practice the results have been mixed in the ensuing decades.

As of the 21st century the Empire has seen the ascension of it's first female Empress, Adela I of New Albion,


Thoughts?


EDIT: 9/15/18

Since no one's really responded I thought I'd add my other (less well formed) nation idea here. It's basically a re-creation of the Grand Republic of Indus, but I'd drop the angle of it being a borderline monarchy/Far Eastern version of the Polish Commonwealth of RL. Instead I would go with it being a 'Republic' but more in the sense that it's dominated by a set of political dynasties that trade offices between each other in 'elections'. But I haven't given it much thought.

[Chrinthanium]

We moved to discord. Check your TGs

[Fascist Jerusalem]

Hello I was redirected here from the application thread.

I have a few questions about the world and simulation so I don't want to submit a complete application yet... But a general summary of my idea:

It would be a nation based off of this: https://www.nationstates.net/nation=fas ... ok/id=main , but with necessary adjustments.

I'd like my idea to be a Clerical Fascist Monarchy centered in South Africa, but with globalwide colonies. It would be a relatively religious society (Roman Catholic) with aspects from the middle ages, but with modern technology. (The colonies would depend on some questions I have about the world).

History would vary from the description of my nationstate on here. Basically, it would be an attempted revival of the Templar Knights, which would eventually descend into a full fledged state.


Can someone give me the invite to the discord?

[Kyr Shorn]

Hello I was redirected here from the application thread.

I have a few questions about the world and simulation so I don't want to submit a complete application yet... But a general summary of my idea:

It would be a nation based off of this: https://www.nationstates.net/nation=fas ... ok/id=main , but with necessary adjustments.

I'd like my idea to be a Clerical Fascist Monarchy centered in South Africa, but with globalwide colonies. It would be a relatively religious society (Roman Catholic) with aspects from the middle ages, but with modern technology. (The colonies would depend on some questions I have about the world).

History would vary from the description of my nationstate on here. Basically, it would be an attempted revival of the Templar Knights, which would eventually descend into a full fledged state.


Can someone give me the invite to the discord?

I like the idea of a Catholic order that became a nation that managed to survive into modern times. Though depending on your neighbors things could be complicated for international relations. Though it might make more sense for AMW if your nation evolved out of an order, much like how the Teutonic Order became the Duchy of Prussia. In which case your national form of government could be either a monarchy with fascist overtones, or a military republic with catholic flavoring (like Franco's Spain).

AMW is an alternate Earth set in the 'Modern Era', but it's history went in wildly different directions from RL, and we're pretty story focused and big on keep the history semi-coherent. It's slow-going and people come and go based on their interest in AMW, and nation claims can be changed up at a moment's notice, but when we do get a plotline going it's full steam ahead!

[Fascist Jerusalem]

Hello I was redirected here from the application thread.

I have a few questions about the world and simulation so I don't want to submit a complete application yet... But a general summary of my idea:

It would be a nation based off of this: https://www.nationstates.net/nation=fas ... ok/id=main , but with necessary adjustments.

I'd like my idea to be a Clerical Fascist Monarchy centered in South Africa, but with globalwide colonies. It would be a relatively religious society (Roman Catholic) with aspects from the middle ages, but with modern technology. (The colonies would depend on some questions I have about the world).

History would vary from the description of my nationstate on here. Basically, it would be an attempted revival of the Templar Knights, which would eventually descend into a full fledged state.


Can someone give me the invite to the discord?

I like the idea of a Catholic order that became a nation that managed to survive into modern times. Though depending on your neighbors things could be complicated for international relations. Though it might make more sense for AMW if your nation evolved out of an order, much like how the Teutonic Order became the Duchy of Prussia. In which case your national form of government could be either a monarchy with fascist overtones, or a military republic with catholic flavoring (like Franco's Spain).

AMW is an alternate Earth set in the 'Modern Era', but it's history went in wildly different directions from RL, and we're pretty story focused and big on keep the history semi-coherent. It's slow-going and people come and go based on their interest in AMW, and nation claims can be changed up at a moment's notice, but when we do get a plotline going it's full steam ahead!

Thanks for the details, but can I have an invite to the discord? I just want to find out and discuss more about the world before making a full fledged application like many others here.

[Chrinthanium]

Hello I was redirected here from the application thread.

I have a few questions about the world and simulation so I don't want to submit a complete application yet... But a general summary of my idea:

It would be a nation based off of this: https://www.nationstates.net/nation=fas ... ok/id=main , but with necessary adjustments.

I'd like my idea to be a Clerical Fascist Monarchy centered in South Africa, but with globalwide colonies. It would be a relatively religious society (Roman Catholic) with aspects from the middle ages, but with modern technology. (The colonies would depend on some questions I have about the world).

History would vary from the description of my nationstate on here. Basically, it would be an attempted revival of the Templar Knights, which would eventually descend into a full fledged state.


Can someone give me the invite to the discord?

EDITED AGAIN....

You all need to keep a cheat sheet of what's been discussed somewhere. Like, perhaps, in the AMW Maps chatroom of the Discord... so that potential land changes are highlighted and not tossed out with the "over 200 unread messages" I walked in on this evening/morning...

[Saint-Laurent]

I've begun working on Saint-Laurent's history. It's still very much WIP but I have some big periods done so far. Right now the history is complete through 1844, when the First Republic of Saint-Laurent is founded by André Audet. This means that the pre-Colombian, Anglo, Hispanic, and the initial Franco eras are all complete. If anyone wants to look it over, feel free. If you see anything incompatible, by all means say so.

History PDF

Edit 10/6: I've imported it into a Google Doc AND updated it through the beginning of the Saint-Laurentian Civil War (1916 - 1920).

[Chrinthanium]

Right, so I'm going to post this here because I would love to see what is going to be thrown at me/us I mean people say.

New Britain suggested in Discord that we swap. He would return to running a Latin client state whereabout the Latin Empire is currently and I would return to Britain. I can't say the idea doesn't entice me. I had already worked out a bit of Brit on paper and, until I opted to help Cass out, was working well with WoS. Essentially, if we do this, I would return to a hard right Britain that is staunchly anti-papist and all this social liberalism. Not Trumpism, but some sort of nationalism that turns into potentially a properly Fascist state or somewhere there's about (depending). What NB wants to do in Italy/Spain or whatever is up to him to say.

As far as what would be the British Empire, considering some of what I had prior is taken, I would work it out to be the following:

UK without Channel islands, Orkney, Shetland... Bermuda, BVI, Barbados, St Vincent and the Grenadines, Angola (minus Luanda province), Kongo Central province of DR Congo, Zambia, Zimbabwe, Mozambique, Sri Lanka, Peninsula Malaysia, Singapore, Hong Kong, Falkland Islands, South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands, Cayman Islands, Montserrat, Anguilla, British Indian Ocean Territory, Maldives. Giving a total British population of around 208 million people.

None of this is concrete, though. Depends on what people say and whatnot. Just thought I would point it out what's being discussed. The proposition intrigues me. And fully supporting the Walmingtonians in whatever it is they want to do.

[The Reborn British Empire]

Ahem, latin client state indeed.

If this goes through I would be running a modern day Roman Republic, similar to what I had outlined the last time. The Roman history would have remained the same up until at least the reign of Constantine, where things would begin to diverge as Constantine would strike a compromise with the Christians rather than converting. The Roman Empire would revert back to a Republic following the reign of 'Borgia' Emperors, and would steadily rebuild to its current modern extent, which would essentially be most of Chrin's Latin Empire's continental holdings, specifically:

Italy (except Trentino/Sud Tyrol, Veneto, and Friuli-Venezia Giulia)
Spain (without Canary Islands, including Cueta, Melilla, Peñón de Vélez de la Gomera, and Plazas de soberanía)
Portugal (without Azores or Madeira)
Southern France (Novelle-Aquitaine, Occitanie, Auvergne-Rhone-Alps, Corsica, and Provenze-Alps-Cote d'Azure regions)
San Marino
Vatican City
Monaco
Andorra
Switzerland
Malta

I would also add the British territory in Cyprus, which Chrin does not appear to be picking up.

This would leave me with a population approximately 140-150 million and a GDP of 5.8 trillion (as per RL numbers), however, I will likely reduce the GDP down somewhat to leave space for Roman conquests going forwards!

I'll provide more details as I work it, but my intention is that this Rome would allow me to be more active and to be located in a very interesting part of the world (Europe). As Chrin says, nothing set in stone, happy to hear views of the community etc.

[Chrinthanium]

Ahem, latin client state indeed.

If this goes through I would be running a modern day Roman Republic, similar to what I had outlined the last time. The Roman history would have remained the same up until at least the reign of Constantine, where things would begin to diverge as Constantine would strike a compromise with the Christians rather than converting. The Roman Empire would revert back to a Republic following the reign of 'Borgia' Emperors, and would steadily rebuild to its current modern extent, which would essentially be most of Chrin's Latin Empire's continental holdings, specifically:

Italy (except Trentino/Sud Tyrol, Veneto, and Friuli-Venezia Giulia)
Spain (without Canary Islands, including Cueta, Melilla, Peñón de Vélez de la Gomera, and Plazas de soberanía)
Portugal (without Azores or Madeira)
Southern France (Novelle-Aquitaine, Occitanie, Auvergne-Rhone-Alps, Corsica, and Provenze-Alps-Cote d'Azure regions)
Gibraltar
San Marino
Vatican City
Monaco
Andorra
Switzerland
Malta

I would also add the British territory in Cyprus, which Chrin does not appear to be picking up.

This would leave me with a population approximately 140-150 million and a GDP of 5.8 trillion (as per RL numbers), however, I will likely reduce the GDP down somewhat to leave space for Roman conquests going forwards!

I'll provide more details as I work it, but my intention is that this Rome would allow me to be more active and to be located in a very interesting part of the world (Europe). As Chrin says, nothing set in stone, happy to hear views of the community etc.

Gibraltar is Walmingtonian.

[Chrinthanium]

I'd also like to suggest that, if this goes through, neither myself nor New Britannia will be permitted any changes for a full calendar year. NB is free to refuse, but I think it's only right to suggest.

[Marimaia]

I have absolutely no issues with the proposed swap and subsequent re-jigging of the claims. If it's what you both want and you're both happy to do it then go for it by all means

As far as the proposed year-long ban on changes for the pair of you, would that just mean wholesale changes (so dropping an entire claim to take on a brand new one) or would that include smaller changes as well (so adding something to an existing claim)?

[The Reborn British Empire]

Yeah, I'd like a little more clarification?

Like I'm all for not being allowed to drop the claim or make ret-con changes, but if I want to make real-time adjustments, like say conquering new territory, in the present (with others able and welcome to interfere, etc), I'd still want to be able to do this?

[Chrinthanium]

I have absolutely no issues with the proposed swap and subsequent re-jigging of the claims. If it's what you both want and you're both happy to do it then go for it by all means

As far as the proposed year-long ban on changes for the pair of you, would that just mean wholesale changes (so dropping an entire claim to take on a brand new one) or would that include smaller changes as well (so adding something to an existing claim)?

Yeah, I'd like a little more clarification?

Like I'm all for not being allowed to drop the claim or make ret-con changes, but if I want to make real-time adjustments, like say conquering new territory, in the present (with others able and welcome to interfere, etc), I'd still want to be able to do this?

I would take it to mean adding to the existing claim. Or even dropping the claim entirely. It's rather difficult to keep the map up to date when every few weeks there's another change. I'm very guilty of this, and since NB's arrived he's been Rome, Japan, Britain, and now possibly back to Rome. I'd rather not do this then three weeks later have to redo the map yet again. Most AMWers stay put, I don't see why we can't, hence the suggestion we lock ourselves in for a full year. If after that time we want to expand, then expand away I say.

If hanging onto Chrinthania even if I don't feel like doing anything with it has taught me anything it is the value of sticking with what you have. Sure, I have tons of ideas to expand or shrink all the time. I look at the map and see holes and think what a great idea to X there. I have to get out of that mindset. I have to buckle down and stick with something because it is very disruptive of me to go about banging out history with someone only to toss it on a whim or because I want to make room. If something in AMW should happen that requires us to adjust claims (say we fill up and need to make a hole for a promising new player) then we can do that. I think with the map rather sparsely populated, we get a bit happy change-y and I want to not worry about that anymore.

But, in fairness, a partial claim drop would be permissible. A partial add would not be permissible. A full drop and change would not be permissible. That's my idea on it anyway. Stick with it and make it work. If it is agreed, then the time to work out what would/wouldn't be "conquered" is now so that in future it's already claimed and ready to go simply because AMW rules wouldn't allow someone to conquer an area that is unclaimed to begin with. So, it would have to be added in and then conquered. Thus, if agreed, NB wouldn't be able to, say in three months, add some place to conquer it. Though, if it is already part of the claim, then conquer away. Same with me, though to be fair I have no intentions of doing that.

[Chrinthanium]

From Discord with regards to NB's taking over the Latin Empire and morphing it, I submit this from NB regarding total claim. Submitted on Sunday 9 December and no objections in Discord. This includes the above-mentioned Roman claim from NB:

So, in light of the above, I would likely do the following:

I would pick up the remaining LE territoires of:

Trinidad and Tobago
Puerto Rico
Galapagos Islands
Sint Eustatius
Saba
St Kitt and Nevis
As the remnants of an Age of Sail Roman Empire
And then add, for later conquest (one in my intro thread, the others down the line):
Madagascar
Amapá
Pará
Maranhão

Which would take my total claim population to approx 195-200 million, GDP of approx what I have with Britain currently, 5.6 trillion or so

[Walmington on Sea]

I am trying to come abrest of recent changes and proposals, please forgive any particularly silly errors I make, here. I would place this straight into the applications thread, but given the ((relatively)) recent discussion of British and related claims here, this seems the best place for it...

After much discussion, TCB and I have settled on a proposal to expand Walmington to incorporate Norway and Sweden.

I intend that this new vast mainland shall function as a majority working-class north, of farmers, woodsmen, miners, oil men, fishermen, and soldiers, while the Danish islands serve on as a financially-driven south.

Having been sceptical about the merits of a larger Walmington, I have been convinced that it may be for the best to make the nation's position more defensible ((and the 'Danish' straits are sure to bristle with coastal batteries in AMW)), and to shield me somewhat against changes over in Britain. I still intend that Walmingtonians will have close ties to their British cousins, and that Britain shall easily top every opinion poll pertaining to the Walmingtonian public's most admired/trusted/important foreign powers, but I want the nation to be able to stand alone in some fashion in the event of radical changes in Britain, be they IC or -more importantly- OOC.

Now, I really ought to have cleared this up earlier, but all the imperial changes of last year need to be summed up. For the benefit of our hard-pressed volunteer cartographer, I shall try to catch up.

Per my post of late July (where on earth does the time go?), I further hoped to claim the Zanzibar archipelago and Mafia Island, both Tanzanian territory ((to serve once again as the Walmingtonian Spice Islands)). I would add the Indian territory of Lakshadweep to serve as the colony of Ceyloba, close to British holdings in the Maldives and Sri Lanka.

I would also like to secure a, erm, backstop of sorts, and state that, should the British player of the day ever drop it from their claim, Singapore should be added to the Walmingtonian Empire ((I am very happy for it to remain British, I merely wish to place a pin in it to signal right of first refusal should that claim lapse or alter!)). Related to that, I am hoping that Chrin ((should the above claim swap happen as I presently understand it)) may allow me to claim the small Singaporean Endurance class amphibious ships, on the assumption that Britian is already well served by the larger vessels of the Albion and Bay classes.

[Chrinthanium]

I am trying to come abrest of recent changes and proposals, please forgive any particularly silly errors I make, here. I would place this straight into the applications thread, but given the ((relatively)) recent discussion of British and related claims here, this seems the best place for it...

After much discussion, TCB and I have settled on a proposal to expand Walmington to incorporate Norway and Sweden.

I intend that this new vast mainland shall function as a majority working-class north, of farmers, woodsmen, miners, oil men, fishermen, and soldiers, while the Danish islands serve on as a financially-driven south.

Having been sceptical about the merits of a larger Walmington, I have been convinced that it may be for the best to make the nation's position more defensible ((and the 'Danish' straits are sure to bristle with coastal batteries in AMW)), and to shield me somewhat against changes over in Britain. I still intend that Walmingtonians will have close ties to their British cousins, and that Britain shall easily top every opinion poll pertaining to the Walmingtonian public's most admired/trusted/important foreign powers, but I want the nation to be able to stand alone in some fashion in the event of radical changes in Britain, be they IC or -more importantly- OOC.

Now, I really ought to have cleared this up earlier, but all the imperial changes of last year need to be summed up. For the benefit of our hard-pressed volunteer cartographer, I shall try to catch up.

Per my post of late July (where on earth does the time go?), I further hoped to claim the Zanzibar archipelago and Mafia Island, both Tanzanian territory ((to serve once again as the Walmingtonian Spice Islands)). I would add the Indian territory of Lakshadweep to serve as the colony of Ceyloba, close to British holdings in the Maldives and Sri Lanka.

I would also like to secure a, erm, backstop of sorts, and state that, should the British player of the day ever drop it from their claim, Singapore should be added to the Walmingtonian Empire ((I am very happy for it to remain British, I merely wish to place a pin in it to signal right of first refusal should that claim lapse or alter!)). Related to that, I am hoping that Chrin ((should the above claim swap happen as I presently understand it)) may allow me to claim the small Singaporean Endurance class amphibious ships, on the assumption that Britain is already well served by the larger vessels of the Albion and Bay classes.

There you are! I was hoping you'd chime in at some point, but I think we're already switched and settled.

I don't see why you can't have the Endurance class at all. If, baring any personal unhappiness with all the mess prior switching has caused, the prior arrangements are still something you'd be interested in revisiting, Britain and Walmington would definitely work together. Singapore sits on some pretty important trade routes, just the position the British are more-than-happy to occupy, but if I want to let it go, I'll TG you first before I do.... unless you have something you want to trade for it.

I also think that Lakshadweep and the "Spice Islands" will make a wonderful addition to Walmington. Norway and Sweden will add a lot of blonde swimsuit models to your claim as well