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The Crooked Beat
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby The Crooked Beat » Sat Nov 05, 2016 11:06 pm

Obviously there's no pretending, at this stage, that I have any sort of master plan in mind for Gandvik, so just about everything is highly negotiable on that subject, and I'd be happy to accommodate what seems like a very interesting idea. There would doubtless be room enough for a persistent Khazaria in an Eastern Europe which in AMW is far from the exclusive preserve of a single dominant ethnicity, religion, or nation, and a Jewish state could survive, I think, easily enough in the space between a mutually hostile Catholic Shield and Lutheran Gandvik and the various Turkic-Muslim and Uralic peoples which those two would variously have attempted to colonize and to enlist as allies against their rival.

Equally a Jewish or at least majority-Jewish state could be perfectly viable in Central Europe, for some of the same reasons outlined above. Indeed, the competition between powers would be even more ferocious, and the resulting political-military pressures might serve as a highly convenient means of building a strong and uncompromising sense of national identity.

As for a Jewish state in North America having started out as a Gandvian colony, that certainly could be made to work as well. Jews would doubtless have faced an immense level of both legal and social persecution in Gandvik, which might have continued to deny Jews full civil rights (such as they were) up until near the end of the 19th century, while various forms of folk and 'scientific' antisemitism would have remained very much in vogue until the 1950s-60s at least. Not quite to the level of real-life Imperial Russia, but definitely de-facto second-class status, coupled with a disconcerting tendency on the part of political opportunists towards scapegoating and populist violence. So plenty of reasons why Jews might have had good reason to leave in large numbers.

A North American locale would, from a strategic standpoint, offer some advantages in terms of autonomy, providing the state with greater room to maneuver internationally, though a nation thoroughly bound-up in regional affairs can be interesting as well.

As always, lots of options, and open to all (well, most) suggestions.

A properly absolutist Iberia seems like it could warm things up in the Mediterranean very nicely, and I heartily welcome the concept. Spain certainly offers some fertile terrain for that sort of flamboyant ultra-conservatism, alongside that particular ideological current's implacable enemies. I know this is a dangerous subject, but do you think reactionary Iberia might have gone Oakist during that particular war, perhaps aiming to aggrandize itself at Italy's expense in North Africa? Ever since (potentially) losing the centerpiece of my inane World Fleets project, with NG's very unhoped-for latest disappearance, I've been having this thought of Spain as the leading exponent of cruiser warfare during that stretch of time.

With respect to Valendia's proposal, it also appears to have considerable merit. I'm very much in favor of alternatives to the traditional unitary-state model, and in AMW's particular environment, lacking as it does a superpower, the European-type state might never have been imposed quite so universally as it was in real life. Even there, of course, we see what are ostensibly unitary states unraveling all the time. So I think the idea carries with it a lot of interesting potential.

Selfishly, wishing in no small part for an excuse to fill-up Parsistan's navy with the finest export offerings from Fincantieri, Bazan, and Vosper Thornycroft, I wouldn't mind an Arabian, at least South Arabian setting for this state-of-nature state, though at the same time the problem with nations scattered to some remote corner of the world is that they all too often seem to wither on the vine, being isolated from regional goings-on and lacking in what might be termed strategic context.

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Glenmere
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Postby Glenmere » Sun Nov 06, 2016 5:17 am

Amerique wrote:Basically, if he doesn't go through with the expansion of Gandvik to encompass the rest of Russia, it would be easy to fit the rest of European Russia as a nation descended from Jewish Khazaria. If the TCB expansion does happen and he doesn't want Poland and Czechia anymore, it could also work as a Khazar state there.


I like both of those ideas. The idea of a Czecho-Polish claim appeals for RL historical reasons, as both the Poles and the Czechs had large historic Jewish communities, especially the Poles in places like Krakow. A solid, stoic Jewish state stretching from Prague to the Baltics could also provide tension for any antisemitic movements in the region.

I also find your take on the American South idea intriguing.

I came in here with three ideas, and now have four, as opposed to getting the list whittled to pieces as I thought would happen. :P

TCB, we should speak, perhaps?

If nobody minds, I will likely not use this account's name as the IC nation name. If based in Russia or Central Europe, the name will likely just be Khazaria, or something akin to that.
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Chrinthanium
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Postby Chrinthanium » Sun Nov 06, 2016 12:15 pm

The Crooked Beat wrote:Obviously there's no pretending, at this stage, that I have any sort of master plan in mind for Gandvik, so just about everything is highly negotiable on that subject, and I'd be happy to accommodate what seems like a very interesting idea. There would doubtless be room enough for a persistent Khazaria in an Eastern Europe which in AMW is far from the exclusive preserve of a single dominant ethnicity, religion, or nation, and a Jewish state could survive, I think, easily enough in the space between a mutually hostile Catholic Shield and Lutheran Gandvik and the various Turkic-Muslim and Uralic peoples which those two would variously have attempted to colonize and to enlist as allies against their rival.

Equally a Jewish or at least majority-Jewish state could be perfectly viable in Central Europe, for some of the same reasons outlined above. Indeed, the competition between powers would be even more ferocious, and the resulting political-military pressures might serve as a highly convenient means of building a strong and uncompromising sense of national identity.

As for a Jewish state in North America having started out as a Gandvian colony, that certainly could be made to work as well. Jews would doubtless have faced an immense level of both legal and social persecution in Gandvik, which might have continued to deny Jews full civil rights (such as they were) up until near the end of the 19th century, while various forms of folk and 'scientific' antisemitism would have remained very much in vogue until the 1950s-60s at least. Not quite to the level of real-life Imperial Russia, but definitely de-facto second-class status, coupled with a disconcerting tendency on the part of political opportunists towards scapegoating and populist violence. So plenty of reasons why Jews might have had good reason to leave in large numbers.

A North American locale would, from a strategic standpoint, offer some advantages in terms of autonomy, providing the state with greater room to maneuver internationally, though a nation thoroughly bound-up in regional affairs can be interesting as well.

As always, lots of options, and open to all (well, most) suggestions.

A properly absolutist Iberia seems like it could warm things up in the Mediterranean very nicely, and I heartily welcome the concept. Spain certainly offers some fertile terrain for that sort of flamboyant ultra-conservatism, alongside that particular ideological current's implacable enemies. I know this is a dangerous subject, but do you think reactionary Iberia might have gone Oakist during that particular war, perhaps aiming to aggrandize itself at Italy's expense in North Africa? Ever since (potentially) losing the centerpiece of my inane World Fleets project, with NG's very unhoped-for latest disappearance, I've been having this thought of Spain as the leading exponent of cruiser warfare during that stretch of time.

With respect to Valendia's proposal, it also appears to have considerable merit. I'm very much in favor of alternatives to the traditional unitary-state model, and in AMW's particular environment, lacking as it does a superpower, the European-type state might never have been imposed quite so universally as it was in real life. Even there, of course, we see what are ostensibly unitary states unraveling all the time. So I think the idea carries with it a lot of interesting potential.

Selfishly, wishing in no small part for an excuse to fill-up Parsistan's navy with the finest export offerings from Fincantieri, Bazan, and Vosper Thornycroft, I wouldn't mind an Arabian, at least South Arabian setting for this state-of-nature state, though at the same time the problem with nations scattered to some remote corner of the world is that they all too often seem to wither on the vine, being isolated from regional goings-on and lacking in what might be termed strategic context.

Speaking of Gandvik, what's the plan with the claim? I want to do a new map, but I'm receiving some conflicting reports regarding whether or not you're going full Russia claim wise. Perhaps, TCB, Khazaria could work in the Poland/Czech area and you could retain your Russian-Scandianian borders if you're interested in giving up something for our new friend (unless you have other spots in your claim you feel better in giving up to accommodate a new player). Outside of a concession on your part, I still like the idea of it working in North America. God knows we could use more players on that side of the Atlantic.

I've also had time to consider Iberia and it's geographic claim. I am seriously reconsidering an earlier decline to retain some sort of colonial possessions that aren't near-by islands. I was considering adding a few smaller areas in Africa, Central America, and/or S. America. Perhaps something reconstituting a reduced combo of Portuguese and Spanish Empires. I do kind of like the idea of an Iberian territory bordering EP's new second claim. Considering Iberia's reduced GDP, I could add a fairly moderate international empire without shooting GDP to an ungodly proportion. In working this out, I thought of adding the following: Republic of the Congo (4,662,446), Gabon (1,738,541), Costa Rica (4,586,353), Macau (652,500), Hong Kong (7,234,800) which would all total 18,874,640. When added to the current Iberian population of 56,357,796, it would create an imperial population of 75,232,436. With a GDP of 12,500, the GDP for the whole of the empire would become 940,405,450,000 (940.4 billion). The home territories would have a higher GDP per capita than the territories. I had also considered adding Mozambique, but that's 25 million right there and I'd rather not.
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Glenmere
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Postby Glenmere » Sun Nov 06, 2016 7:50 pm

Chrinthanium wrote:Outside of a concession on your part, I still like the idea of it working in North America. God knows we could use more players on that side of the Atlantic.


I must admit that one is my personal favorite, as it would allow me more room both physically and in the geopolitical sense, and the nation I envision might have issues with her neighbors.

Issues are always good for fun RP.

Having said that, the idea of a Jewish state in Poland and Bohemia-Moravia or so would be interesting as well, especially with the Celts right to the south.
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Chemaki
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Ex-Nation

Postby Chemaki » Mon Nov 07, 2016 6:09 am

Europe - Prussia wrote:The thing is that this claim would always be active in the background, as "that" problem that cannot be ignored for this or that reason. As a no-laws area it would work as the source of most of the illegal activity of AMW, thus keeping it always present.


I'm currently performing a systematic clean on my projectile-vomit inundated radiator, following a week of flu and heavy drinking, but I've been lurking around and all so happy at this little spurt of activity. I only just noticed EP's idea for an Arabian state, and I think it would be a great idea if you're looking to have a few underlying brewing issues. I'm happy to get throw over my thoughts about Romnika and it's reaction to Muslim (or Christian, if you swing that way like Ferkas) Arabs to the south. As it stands the Gaza strip (and perhaps southern Israel) is already a lawless hotch-potch of Catholic and Muslim refugee camps, a source for tension in the Siani and a reason to keep Italy on its toes. Throwing an amoral oil-monster of a nation into the mix would certainly make things more interesting, and provide a perfect bogeyman to show Romnika's devout socialists exactly how awful foreign influences (Islam? Runaway capitalism!?) are, perhaps as a slightly less sane counterpart to Parsistan, but more co-operative and less outwardly hostile than Chingiz.

Also, hey there, Glenmore! If you want to ask anything about Jews in the Holy Land, hit me up! I'd love to see a revival of the Khazars, and a bit more celebration of the Migration Era cultures since Eastern Europe got snapped up by Celts and pesky pseudo-Baltics.
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Glenmere
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Postby Glenmere » Mon Nov 07, 2016 12:15 pm

Chemaki wrote:Also, hey there, Glenmore! If you want to ask anything about Jews in the Holy Land, hit me up! I'd love to see a revival of the Khazars, and a bit more celebration of the Migration Era cultures since Eastern Europe got snapped up by Celts and pesky pseudo-Baltics.


Glenmere. Spellin' my name wrong. :P

Expert on the subject matter? Always good to know. As mentioned before, while a Jewish American South intrigues me, a Jewish Czecho-Polish state has merits as well.

Especially when you consider it would create a direct land border between hardcore Jews and hardcore Celts who hate Judeo-Christians.

Question. Does AMW have anything against moonlighting?
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Chrinthanium
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Postby Chrinthanium » Mon Nov 07, 2016 12:25 pm

The Crooked Beat wrote:A properly absolutist Iberia seems like it could warm things up in the Mediterranean very nicely, and I heartily welcome the concept. Spain certainly offers some fertile terrain for that sort of flamboyant ultra-conservatism, alongside that particular ideological current's implacable enemies. I know this is a dangerous subject, but do you think reactionary Iberia might have gone Oakist during that particular war, perhaps aiming to aggrandize itself at Italy's expense in North Africa? Ever since (potentially) losing the centerpiece of my inane World Fleets project, with NG's very unhoped-for latest disappearance, I've been having this thought of Spain as the leading exponent of cruiser warfare during that stretch of time.

Sorry, TCB, completely, somehow, forgot to reply to this very important question.

To be honest, I know nothing of warfare, so anything specific like cruisers is beyond me. Forgive my incompetence :P As for the Great War, Iberia would, most likely, find itself allied to whichever side it believed had its interest at heart. I kind of see Iberia similar to England during Henry VIII's day, kind of bouncing between the two main European factions depending on which one seemed to be more appealing at the time/whichever side came courting. I'd say we leaned Oakist at the time, probably joined the war on that front, then some Aventine battles on Iberian soil made us change our mind (because surrender means occupation, which no Iberian would tolerate, or so the King said).

Of course, we may need to sort out what it means to be Aventine and Oakist at this point. It's getting very convoluted in my mind.

We probably find ourselves, to some degree, attempting to remain in good relations with Valendia and, potentially, Gandvik (depending on how Gandvik is fully set up). It may, at least in our mind, pay to be aligned in some fashion with other monarchist states globally. I know the expanded Iberia I've just posted about last night takes into account the ability to defend such territories, and an expanded Iberia would take that into account by trying to garner trade agreements/assistance pacts for building Euro-centric military/civilian apparatus. Lots of things we can't truly afford, but will probably drain from the pockets of the working people to acquire.

As a side note, I'm created a Society for the Preservation of the Spanish Language which will have final say over what is and what isn't considered "Proper Spanish." Potentially arriving at a King's Spanish and a "Californian" Spanish split, similar to American English/ British English split.
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Chrinthanium
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Postby Chrinthanium » Mon Nov 07, 2016 12:34 pm

Glenmere wrote:
Chemaki wrote:Also, hey there, Glenmore! If you want to ask anything about Jews in the Holy Land, hit me up! I'd love to see a revival of the Khazars, and a bit more celebration of the Migration Era cultures since Eastern Europe got snapped up by Celts and pesky pseudo-Baltics.


Glenmere. Spellin' my name wrong. :P

Expert on the subject matter? Always good to know. As mentioned before, while a Jewish American South intrigues me, a Jewish Czecho-Polish state has merits as well.

Especially when you consider it would create a direct land border between hardcore Jews and hardcore Celts who hate Judeo-Christians.

Question. Does AMW have anything against moonlighting?

You can do whatever you wish to do outside of AMW. We have no requirements that you are exclusive to us. As always, your NS nation and whatever you do outside of AMW has no bearing on your nation in AMW (unless, of course you make it so in AMW).
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Postby Amerique » Mon Nov 07, 2016 4:24 pm

Glenmere wrote:
Chemaki wrote:Also, hey there, Glenmore! If you want to ask anything about Jews in the Holy Land, hit me up! I'd love to see a revival of the Khazars, and a bit more celebration of the Migration Era cultures since Eastern Europe got snapped up by Celts and pesky pseudo-Baltics.


Glenmere. Spellin' my name wrong. :P

Expert on the subject matter? Always good to know. As mentioned before, while a Jewish American South intrigues me, a Jewish Czecho-Polish state has merits as well.

Especially when you consider it would create a direct land border between hardcore Jews and hardcore Celts who hate Judeo-Christians.

Question. Does AMW have anything against moonlighting?


I was wondering, actually, are you still going with the Messianic Jewish angle (with Jesus and all) or will you be going with the more "pure" non-messianic Rabbinic Judaism now?
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Postby Glenmere » Tue Nov 08, 2016 5:24 am

Amerique wrote:I was wondering, actually, are you still going with the Messianic Jewish angle (with Jesus and all) or will you be going with the more "pure" non-messianic Rabbinic Judaism now?


More the former, though with the latter definitely in evidence. Messianics can be pretty hardcore about the Old Covenant themselves when the want to. It depends on which bunch you happen to be involved with more than anything else. In some ways this nation would be fairly chill, such as letting non-Messianic Jews and other persecuted groups live among them, such as the Druze and basically anybody with no home anywhere else who is willing to respect our laws, like Sikhs and Baha'i. In others you may find it to be quite...robust in how it applies the Old Law.

I can see Khazaria, or whatever I wind up calling it, having points of tensions with neighboring peoples wherever it lands.

I also might know somebody else who might have interest in AMW, if you need some major South American developments. :)
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Postby Chrinthanium » Wed Nov 09, 2016 9:35 am

Glenmere wrote:
Amerique wrote:I was wondering, actually, are you still going with the Messianic Jewish angle (with Jesus and all) or will you be going with the more "pure" non-messianic Rabbinic Judaism now?


More the former, though with the latter definitely in evidence. Messianics can be pretty hardcore about the Old Covenant themselves when the want to. It depends on which bunch you happen to be involved with more than anything else. In some ways this nation would be fairly chill, such as letting non-Messianic Jews and other persecuted groups live among them, such as the Druze and basically anybody with no home anywhere else who is willing to respect our laws, like Sikhs and Baha'i. In others you may find it to be quite...robust in how it applies the Old Law.

I can see Khazaria, or whatever I wind up calling it, having points of tensions with neighboring peoples wherever it lands.

I also might know somebody else who might have interest in AMW, if you need some major South American developments. :)

Send them around! The more the merrier.
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Postby Glenmere » Wed Nov 09, 2016 12:47 pm

Chrinthanium wrote:Send them around! The more the merrier.


I have four words for you in that case, based on their speculations.

Federated States of South America.

...Five words. Shut up.

Basically, imagine a nation based out of Brazil and much of the north of the continent, with access to the Pacific, the Atlantic, and the Caribbean. A rapidly growing population and economic base, issues with local corruption but still the potential for a significant international footprint.

Does that sound appealing?
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Postby Chrinthanium » Wed Nov 09, 2016 12:58 pm

Glenmere wrote:
Chrinthanium wrote:Send them around! The more the merrier.


I have four words for you in that case, based on their speculations.

Federated States of South America.

...Five words. Shut up.

Basically, imagine a nation based out of Brazil and much of the north of the continent, with access to the Pacific, the Atlantic, and the Caribbean. A rapidly growing population and economic base, issues with local corruption but still the potential for a significant international footprint.

Does that sound appealing?

There is a pending claim for Columbia & Panama. Also, Brazil is a fairly large population already by itself. I'm certain if your friend puts in a good application, it'll most likely be approved
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Postby Europe - Prussia » Fri Nov 11, 2016 8:12 pm

Thank you for giving your opinion on this idea of mine, plus all the interest shown. I'm also surprised by the interest shown by both TCB and Chem when I mentioned the Arabian peninsula as a potential area for this claim. While the middle east has great potential for my idea (thanks to all the oil in Saudi Arabia, Qatar and the UAE, plus the potential control of the Mandeb Strait), I prefer the Colombia-Panama combination (and Venezuela too I suppose, because of the three, Venezuela has the most variety of resources and makes the other two look like barren rocks by comparison) for its versatility and geography.

The concern raised by TCB about isolated claims dying out is a valid one yes, and this claim on South America does seem like that, but it's my hope that both the legal and illegal resources this claim could offer and the strategic point that is the Panama Canal will offset that. Plus, it would be nice to have the canal in AMW.

However, if there's a new RPer interested in same the area I suppose I could wait to post in the applications thread. This is a secondary claim after all, and I'd like to see new blood in AMW.
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Postby Chrinthanium » Fri Nov 11, 2016 8:36 pm

Europe - Prussia wrote:Thank you for giving your opinion on this idea of mine, plus all the interest shown. I'm also surprised by the interest shown by both TCB and Chem when I mentioned the Arabian peninsula as a potential area for this claim. While the middle east has great potential for my idea (thanks to all the oil in Saudi Arabia, Qatar and the UAE, plus the potential control of the Mandeb Strait), I prefer the Colombia-Panama combination (and Venezuela too I suppose, because of the three, Venezuela has the most variety of resources and makes the other two look like barren rocks by comparison) for its versatility and geography.

The concern raised by TCB about isolated claims dying out is a valid one yes, and this claim on South America does seem like that, but it's my hope that both the legal and illegal resources this claim could offer and the strategic point that is the Panama Canal will offset that. Plus, it would be nice to have the canal in AMW.

However, if there's a new RPer interested in same the area I suppose I could wait to post in the applications thread. This is a secondary claim after all, and I'd like to see new blood in AMW.

I just need people to settle on spots and allow me to redo a new map :lol: TCB! Are you taking all of Asian Russia??
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Postby Glenmere » Sun Nov 13, 2016 8:52 am

I've made my friend aware of the existing map claims, and he intends to swing around sometime in the next few hours to make a post detailing his proposal in detail. :)

For me, I'm now down to a choice between a Czech-Polish land claim, which would depend on TCB, or the Southern U.S. Either way, I am thinking of a monarchy of a sort, and one which is very intensely, devoutly religious.
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Postby Chrinthanium » Sun Nov 13, 2016 1:35 pm

I updated the map. Claims list is being updated currently. Notable changes: France removed, Iberia expanded, California's map color switched to a darker red, used Photoshop CC and a Montserrat font. I like it.

Glenmere wrote:I've made my friend aware of the existing map claims, and he intends to swing around sometime in the next few hours to make a post detailing his proposal in detail. :)

For me, I'm now down to a choice between a Czech-Polish land claim, which would depend on TCB, or the Southern U.S. Either way, I am thinking of a monarchy of a sort, and one which is very intensely, devoutly religious.


I'm certain America would just absolutely love a religious monarchy on their southern border. I'm all for that. :twisted:
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Postby Glenmere » Tue Nov 15, 2016 10:27 am

Chrinthanium wrote:I'm certain America would just absolutely love a religious monarchy on their southern border. I'm all for that. :twisted:


I think either/any of my potential neighbors would have...comments on the issue. :P I would certainly love to hear their thoughts.
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Postby Iansisle » Wed Nov 16, 2016 7:13 pm

California could always use a neighbor with a strongly conflicting ideology. I do miss the Gulf States.

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Postby Chrinthanium » Fri Nov 18, 2016 8:35 pm

I've been at AMW for 7 years as of today ish.... somewhere between 11/17/2009 and 11/19/2009 I was accepted. Been fun! Look forward to 7 more!
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Postby The United Gulf States » Fri Nov 25, 2016 7:33 pm

Go on, then. If I give this one more try and Glenmere also lands somewhere in the US, along with California, Amerique, and WoS, we might actually have a chance to make things move.

My problem last time was probably a failure to develop good characters on the bad -ruling- side of the nation. I've got Derek, Olongwe, Sinkala, Miyanda, and so on for the resistance, but struggled to flesh-out Clarke, Hughes, et cetera. Nowadays I could probably just rip-off leading politicians from RL and change their damn names!

Is Glenmere still interested? We could work out some borders that connect all five potential states, one after the other, if TUGS comes back to Texas and surrounds and Glenmere lies to its east and Amerique's south? If TUGS went back to what it was, there'd be about 72, 73 million people left in the south-east US, I think.

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Postby Chrinthanium » Fri Nov 25, 2016 8:57 pm

The United Gulf States wrote:Go on, then. If I give this one more try and Glenmere also lands somewhere in the US, along with California, Amerique, and WoS, we might actually have a chance to make things move.

My problem last time was probably a failure to develop good characters on the bad -ruling- side of the nation. I've got Derek, Olongwe, Sinkala, Miyanda, and so on for the resistance, but struggled to flesh-out Clarke, Hughes, et cetera. Nowadays I could probably just rip-off leading politicians from RL and change their damn names!

Is Glenmere still interested? We could work out some borders that connect all five potential states, one after the other, if TUGS comes back to Texas and surrounds and Glenmere lies to its east and Amerique's south? If TUGS went back to what it was, there'd be about 72, 73 million people left in the south-east US, I think.

Oh boy, fun in North America again! Yes! This! All day this!
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Postby Europe - Prussia » Sat Nov 26, 2016 4:31 pm

So everybody knows, I've posted my idea on the applications thread, so you can check it out and give you opinion. Also Chrin, in the claim list on the applications thread, could you please update Valendia? it says its still in France and Switzerland and that can lead to some confusion with the map.
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Postby AMW Applications » Sat Nov 26, 2016 8:50 pm

Europe - Prussia wrote:So everybody knows, I've posted my idea on the applications thread, so you can check it out and give you opinion. Also Chrin, in the claim list on the applications thread, could you please update Valendia? it says its still in France and Switzerland and that can lead to some confusion with the map.

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Postby Amerique » Sun Nov 27, 2016 8:40 am

I personally like the idea of a Jewish Poland-Bohemia Khazaria with cities like Prague and Krákow, might be interesting with a history of being exchanged between the major powers in the area or resisting occupation. Perhaps the messianism would start partly as a way to be more palatable to the imperialist Christian neighbors?

Glenmere in southeast US works too, and there could definitely be some friction with a return of the religious and racialist TUGS in super Texas and my anti-monarchist self.

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