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Chemaki
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Postby Chemaki » Tue Jun 24, 2014 2:43 am

Alright guys, so in light of writing the FIS' history, the state of this ambiguous 'Caliphate' (Kyr's app reminded me), I'm going to propose a rather large (perhaps radical?) change to AMW Canon, regarding the history of this Caliphate within Persia (a huge constituent of the first few Caliphates). It would go to explain why a weakened Umayyad Caliphate chose to focus its efforts westward and into North Africa (a common theme of past and possibly future applications) and why Byzantium managed to reconquer it so successfully.

The FIS is predominantly Ibadi, a tolerant Islamic sect which rejected the last of the "right guided Caliphs", Ali, and thought of him as incompetent and unfit to rule over the Islamic Ammah. At the start of Ali's rule, the Rashidun Caliphate (the first) was divided by civil war between Sunnis and Shias after the assassination of Ali's predecessor (Uthman, also unpopular) by a Persian general, who, in my canon, went on to lead a full scale rebellion and restore Sassanid rule. The repercussions of that is that since about 700 AD, relatively young into Islam' existance but after the faith reached Central Asia, Egypt, India, etc., the Caliphate would lose Persia to a newly-converted Ibadi Sassanid dynasty which would go on to rule for another half-century. This would explain why most of the FIS are Ibadi, why Central Asia remained warring tribes (a feature in the FIS and Depkazi history) and were never under the Caliphate's hegemony, and why the 'Caliphate' was never strong enough to fight off a Greco-Roman resurgence.

As for Sunnis and Shiites, there should be no real difference to their religious views or history (the Caliphate still existed, just in a weakened form), except that many would probably consider Ibadi followers heathens or outright heretics (AMW's Ibadis do revere someone who assassinated a Caliph as a hero, after all). West Persia will still be a Shia heartland, a remainant of Islamic refugees which settled in the area following Byzantium's invasion of Mesopotamia, and later persecutions. Central Asia, the Hindu Kush and Northern India can (and in the FIS' case, do) remain Sunni as the first Caliphate did originally spread Islam to these areas, and Persia's tolerance of other faiths/sects (the restoration of Sassanid rule was more political than religious, anyways) led to the diffusion of Sunni religion eastwards. However it may explain why there was no later (post-14th century) attempt at a Caliphate akin to the Ottomans or Cordoba (as far as I know Chingiz hasn't styled himself Caliph yet) and generally why the traditional Sunni-Shiite faiths haven't been as widespread.



So, how about we hash this thing out once and for all, to clear up any future confusion?
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Postby United Kongo » Tue Jun 24, 2014 5:46 am

Well it does seem fine to me, although isn't most of Persia unclaimed at the moment? if it then I'm not sure history for the region should be created yet as another cliamant might decide to do somehting different.

I guess the changes don't effect the Congo that much as Islam diffuses into the Congo via trade during the 13th century, I've been thinking about the sects of Islam prevalent in the Congo, perhaps instead of Sunni Islam Ibadi Islam at first gained popularity among the Congo, (perhaps spread by FIS Indian ocean merchants), and later Sunni or Shiite sects being popularized under the Kongolese Empire, perhaps even claiming the title of Caliph to reinforce their religious authority (and being so isolated no other Islamic dynasties being able to challenge this claim). This authority would only be limited to the Congo of course.

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Postby Dra-pol » Tue Jun 24, 2014 2:10 pm

Chemaki wrote:...as far as I know Chingiz hasn't styled himself Caliph yet


Depkazia wrote:President Chingiz, Emperor Depkazi the First, Commander of the Faithful and Successor of the Prophet of the Lord of the Universe, King of the Strugglers, Khan of Khans...

...Khalīfah Chingiz Khagan Depkazi, Amir al-Muminin, Malik ul-Mugāhidīn, Lord of the Steppe and of the Cities of Semerkand Boxoro, Aqtöbe, Yaitsk, Atıraw, and of the Port of Aqtaw, Conqueror of the Shieldian Empire in Asia and in Europe, Unifier of the Tribes, Tamer of the River Horse, Sooth of the Tooth, Artist of the Clouds, Bearer of the Golden Lineage, President For Life of the Turkic People's Grand State.


I'm quite sure that Chingiz has been calling himself Caliph, indeed, since before you joined AMW (and even NS), Chemaki. Not that I'm saying your chaps can't claim the same title, but Chingiz does not really seem to be one for humility or shirking the opportunity to grab some power!

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Postby Chrinthanium » Tue Jun 24, 2014 9:56 pm

Dra-pol wrote:
Chemaki wrote:...as far as I know Chingiz hasn't styled himself Caliph yet


Depkazia wrote:President Chingiz, Emperor Depkazi the First, Commander of the Faithful and Successor of the Prophet of the Lord of the Universe, King of the Strugglers, Khan of Khans...

...Khalīfah Chingiz Khagan Depkazi, Amir al-Muminin, Malik ul-Mugāhidīn, Lord of the Steppe and of the Cities of Semerkand Boxoro, Aqtöbe, Yaitsk, Atıraw, and of the Port of Aqtaw, Conqueror of the Shieldian Empire in Asia and in Europe, Unifier of the Tribes, Tamer of the River Horse, Sooth of the Tooth, Artist of the Clouds, Bearer of the Golden Lineage, President For Life of the Turkic People's Grand State.


I'm quite sure that Chingiz has been calling himself Caliph, indeed, since before you joined AMW (and even NS), Chemaki. Not that I'm saying your chaps can't claim the same title, but Chingiz does not really seem to be one for humility or shirking the opportunity to grab some power!

:lol: Chemaki, did you really not know that Chingiz was a Caliph? Holy cow, son. The link to the Depkazi factbook is on the offsite forum, dude. You should read it some time. It's friggin' awesome
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Postby Chemaki » Wed Jun 25, 2014 1:58 am

Chrinthanium wrote: :lol: Chemaki, did you really not know that Chingiz was a Caliph? Holy cow, son. The link to the Depkazi factbook is on the offsite forum, dude. You should read it some time. It's friggin' awesome


I was really confused, because I swore Chingiz would be the sort of lunatic to style himself Caliph, but when I did a quick skim then used Ctrl+F to find 'Caliph', I couldn't find it! I've read the factbook a couple of times before and I swore I saw the word in sometime before, but was too inebriated to remember Caliph had different spellings :P

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Postby Chrinthanium » Wed Jun 25, 2014 4:31 am

Chemaki wrote:
Chrinthanium wrote: :lol: Chemaki, did you really not know that Chingiz was a Caliph? Holy cow, son. The link to the Depkazi factbook is on the offsite forum, dude. You should read it some time. It's friggin' awesome


I was really confused, because I swore Chingiz would be the sort of lunatic to style himself Caliph, but when I did a quick skim then used Ctrl+F to find 'Caliph', I couldn't find it! I've read the factbook a couple of times before and I swore I saw the word in sometime before, but was too inebriated to remember Caliph had different spellings :P

That would be because it's spelled Khalifah, heh. Read it, don't scan it :lol:
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Postby Kyr Shorn » Wed Jun 25, 2014 7:37 pm

Some thoughts about Indus and foreign relations.

Depkazia: <unprintable>

FIS: Uppity Muslim Peasants. Must be kept at arms length lest our peasants get ideas...

The Former Shield: See! This is what happens when you give the peasants any mercy!

Western Roman Empire: Ok, so they used to be colonial bastards. But at least they've got style.

Eastern Roman Empire: Same as above, but with more exotic food.

The Celts(Or whatever they're called these days): If they show up make sure that they bathe and get deloused before plying them with booze before sending them back to whatever hellhole they came from.

Chrinthanium: A liberal empire?! This is just asking for trouble. Best if we talk them into something more sensible soon before things get out of hand.

Walmington: They do love tea and monarchy, so they can't be all bad.

Japan: Our most esteemed and wonderful new partner on the global stage. Why, they just love the work our peasants can do for their companies! And we both love the money we can make from that work. It's win/win!

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Postby Kyr Shorn » Sat Jul 05, 2014 2:20 pm

I have begun the task of putting together my factbook.

Link: Grand Republic of Indus

And at the moment I'm stuck on the military, on what my GDP would be, and how I'm going to divide Indus up internally. While some of the regions will be more or less the same, other's will be broken up a bit or merged together, and the capital of Saidpur and some lands around it will serve as the 'Lands of the Primus' or the territory of whoever gets elected Primus in addition to anything else that he (or she) might rule during their time in office.

If anyone get's confused about my use of 'Maharaja' (Great King) for the rulers of the regions, don't be. I envisioned that when the Grand Republic was born there was an agreement to retain al the traditional titles but to decree that all the nobility were equal peers. Of course in practice this hasn't quite panned out. :D
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Postby Nova Gaul » Sun Jul 06, 2014 9:37 pm

I really like what I see, as usual Kyr Shorn. I can't really help much with your history, but Japan's heavy industries would be delighted to have some of the more primitive factories in the Indus, chemicals and nasty things like that. Also, they would be delighted to be given lucrative infrastructure development projects in a country where overtime and work-breaks are seen as the devil's spawn.

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Postby Chrinthanium » Tue Jul 08, 2014 7:13 am

I know I've been saying that I wanted to save this little piece of land for a smaller claim that comes into AMW, but it's been too much for me to resist wanting it. So, I would like to put forth an expansion of the Western Roman Empire to add the remainder of Austria and that piece of Germany that Cass left behind to its north. Somewhere in the neighborhood of 6 million more people added to the empire with this expansion if it is approved. I'd really like to fill that hole with my Romans.
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Postby Chrinthanium » Sun Jul 13, 2014 6:46 pm

Alright, kids......

With Chemaki shifting his claim, Kyr coming back with a new claim, Rome expanding, Acadzia CTEing (again)........ the time has come to do a tidy up on the big map. So the preliminary update is linked to right here. Some information, though.

1: Gallaga has been painted a greeny-yellowy color. This is to show that it's possibly still Ian's, but mostly under Depkazi control. The portions of Gallaga under Byzantine control are an icier blue.
2: The Roman expansion has been moved up to Cass' river border in Bavaria. YAY!
3: Chemaki's claim shifted a bit, filling in the remainder of Iran, dropping a few parts of Afghanistan, and most of his claim in the Arabian peninsula.
4: Indus now added
5: Byz's second claim added (whatever the hell it's called. CBA to find out at this moment)
6: Walmington: Not certain I've got you down right. Double check and let me know.

That is about it, folks.
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Postby Jatriqya and Hoya » Sun Jul 13, 2014 7:13 pm

Chrinthanium wrote:Alright, kids......
5: Byz's second claim added (whatever the hell it's called. CBA to find out at this moment)


Thanks Chrin ;)

I'd like to flesh out the idea more with Chemaki and Kyr, because as it was Kutch had a border with the FIS, which was fairly important to it's history in that the culture there was a weird blend, and it also served as an escape route from the dictatorship in the FIS. I would love to have it border both countries, with the Byzantines in the present having a strong cultural/economic presence but the territory itself running its own affairs, and more importantly being a strong ally to both the FIS and ERE.

As it is, Kutch is an enclave, which is still a fun piece of territory and history to play around with, but the history and current situation of the state will need a lot of tinkering...

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Postby Chrinthanium » Sun Jul 13, 2014 7:29 pm

Jatriqya and Hoya wrote:
Chrinthanium wrote:Alright, kids......
5: Byz's second claim added (whatever the hell it's called. CBA to find out at this moment)


Thanks Chrin ;)

I'd like to flesh out the idea more with Chemaki and Kyr, because as it was Kutch had a border with the FIS, which was fairly important to it's history in that the culture there was a weird blend, and it also served as an escape route from the dictatorship in the FIS. I would love to have it border both countries, with the Byzantines in the present having a strong cultural/economic presence but the territory itself running its own affairs, and more importantly being a strong ally to both the FIS and ERE.

As it is, Kutch is an enclave, which is still a fun piece of territory and history to play around with, but the history and current situation of the state will need a lot of tinkering...


Meh, I think you're fine as you are, personally. I'd rather not get into etching in more borders that don't appear on the map. I've a limited amount of mapping time as it is, the last thing I want to do is spend it trying to work out where the actual borders are because they're not on our current map. That being said, I'm working on a few other maps for AMW that get a tad less specific in the United States of America, but more specific elsewhere. However, those maps are either HUGE, or the world is split up peace-meal.
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Postby Kyr Shorn » Sun Jul 13, 2014 8:39 pm

Jatriqya and Hoya wrote:
Chrinthanium wrote:Alright, kids......
5: Byz's second claim added (whatever the hell it's called. CBA to find out at this moment)


Thanks Chrin ;)

I'd like to flesh out the idea more with Chemaki and Kyr, because as it was Kutch had a border with the FIS, which was fairly important to it's history in that the culture there was a weird blend, and it also served as an escape route from the dictatorship in the FIS. I would love to have it border both countries, with the Byzantines in the present having a strong cultural/economic presence but the territory itself running its own affairs, and more importantly being a strong ally to both the FIS and ERE.

As it is, Kutch is an enclave, which is still a fun piece of territory and history to play around with, but the history and current situation of the state will need a lot of tinkering...


No worries, we'll figure it out. :D

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Postby Chrinthanium » Sun Jul 13, 2014 10:01 pm

Kyr Shorn wrote:
Jatriqya and Hoya wrote:
Thanks Chrin ;)

I'd like to flesh out the idea more with Chemaki and Kyr, because as it was Kutch had a border with the FIS, which was fairly important to it's history in that the culture there was a weird blend, and it also served as an escape route from the dictatorship in the FIS. I would love to have it border both countries, with the Byzantines in the present having a strong cultural/economic presence but the territory itself running its own affairs, and more importantly being a strong ally to both the FIS and ERE.

As it is, Kutch is an enclave, which is still a fun piece of territory and history to play around with, but the history and current situation of the state will need a lot of tinkering...


No worries, we'll figure it out. :D

I'm not gonna be carving up the map on whim here. It takes a bit to figure out the rough placement of those borders and, again, I don't really feel like spending an hour trying to ensure it looks right on the map..... I'm watching you two... don't make me stop this car :P
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Postby Chrinthanium » Sun Jul 13, 2014 11:35 pm

Okay, AMW......

This is what happens when Chrinthanium decides not to go out and drink and focuses his potential energy into kinetic pursuits. I have found what I believe is a better map for AMW. Now, it's not as detailed as I wish, and it doesn't include individual counties in the United States, or England. That being said, the map, overall, is a bit larger, more focused on island groupings around the world, has better detail on internal national subdivisions (first-level, again), and is much easier to work with. While I despise drawing in borders that aren't there and wish to find a map that would have every conceivable border, the fact of the matter is such a map either is either broke into continental elements thus creating more than one map for AMW (something I didn't want) or, if I assembled them together, would create a map so large that no one would be able to read it properly. This map is more recent than our current map and there's a few minor details included on this map that weren't on the previous map (like South Sudan).

This map that I prefer is now filled in with all AMW claimed lands including Indus, Byz's 2nd claim, and the shift in Gallaga. Let me know what you think. On this map, some of you had a color change, some of you didn't. That was done to help differentiate some claims and make the map a tad more appeasing to the eyes.

Here it is. Let me know what you think.
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Postby Dra-pol » Mon Jul 14, 2014 9:01 am

Interesting. It looks pretty clear, and if you're happy working out things like the mid-state border between Amerique and the Gulf without the county lines, then that's your prerogative as top map chap, I should think.

To my eye, British/Walmingtonian territories and Zion look remarkably similar, but that may just be me, and since they're all labelled it doesn't seem like a big issue. ((Quietly assembles expeditionary force))

I've had to copy and zoom in to check, and it'll be almost invisible on the map, but, if you don't mind, a few updates on South East Asia. Singapore (hanging over from the 99 year lease when Emesa existed) is British now, our last outpost since abandoning Drapoel interests. In Dra-pol itself, my proposal, which nobody seemed to object to, was that Phuket, Thailand, would be American (as you've correctly indicated); Cheduba/Manaung, Burma would be Roman (again, looks right); and Pattaya, Thailand (SE of Bangkok) would be Valendian, while Sittwe, Burma has fallen back into Drapoel control.

On a related note, I'll get back to working on Dra-pol's new factbook this afternoon, to help clear all this up!

Do you not claim the Canary Islands for Rome? Just Madeira? Not because I'm planning to claim them -I'm not-, just wondering. I would like to confirm, though, the take-over of the rest of Morocco and the Spanish exclaves ((I mean, British Mauretania!)), as mentioned ((along with Singapore)) in this post. Although, I may be willing to give some consideration to one or both of the exclaves being in foreign hands, if it can be made to fit an interesting history, mind.

Oh, and a couple of bits in the Canadian Maritimes seem to have been missed, wouldn't want someone trying to claim PEI from under the Empire's nose, now, would we? ;)

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Postby Iansisle » Mon Jul 14, 2014 10:57 am

Well, of course Robison is going to look better than Mercator!

I am currently minus an internet, have been for a couple weeks, so you'll have to excuse my lack of posting. In theory the cable guy is out here today. . . just like he "had" been for the last week. :roll:

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Postby Chrinthanium » Mon Jul 14, 2014 2:24 pm

Dra-pol wrote:Interesting. It looks pretty clear, and if you're happy working out things like the mid-state border between Amerique and the Gulf without the county lines, then that's your prerogative as top map chap, I should think.

To my eye, British/Walmingtonian territories and Zion look remarkably similar, but that may just be me, and since they're all labelled it doesn't seem like a big issue. ((Quietly assembles expeditionary force))

I've had to copy and zoom in to check, and it'll be almost invisible on the map, but, if you don't mind, a few updates on South East Asia. Singapore (hanging over from the 99 year lease when Emesa existed) is British now, our last outpost since abandoning Drapoel interests. In Dra-pol itself, my proposal, which nobody seemed to object to, was that Phuket, Thailand, would be American (as you've correctly indicated); Cheduba/Manaung, Burma would be Roman (again, looks right); and Pattaya, Thailand (SE of Bangkok) would be Valendian, while Sittwe, Burma has fallen back into Drapoel control.

On a related note, I'll get back to working on Dra-pol's new factbook this afternoon, to help clear all this up!

Do you not claim the Canary Islands for Rome? Just Madeira? Not because I'm planning to claim them -I'm not-, just wondering. I would like to confirm, though, the take-over of the rest of Morocco and the Spanish exclaves ((I mean, British Mauretania!)), as mentioned ((along with Singapore)) in this post. Although, I may be willing to give some consideration to one or both of the exclaves being in foreign hands, if it can be made to fit an interesting history, mind.

Oh, and a couple of bits in the Canadian Maritimes seem to have been missed, wouldn't want someone trying to claim PEI from under the Empire's nose, now, would we? ;)


As far as the Canary Islands are concerned, at one point I had claimed them, but then dropped them the last time I expanded farther in Europe to help balance out the population shift a bit.

Yes, there are some islands not colored in and that will be fixed shortly. So many dadgun islands there, it was bound to happen at 3 in the morning :P I will also shift Zion's color to something less Walmingtonian-looking. In as far as Drapol, I had missed a bit of all that discussion regarding changes on the concessions and I will update that shortly as well. This Robinson-projection map, as Ian duly pointed out, is a tad bigger than the previous map and will lend itself to the ability to at least denote with a single pixel--if not more--those changes. I had combed through some of the threads, but I had a nagging feeling I missed something.

Never fear, though, no charlatan will ever claim Walmingtonian lands from under the empire because they don't like it up 'em!

Now, I thought that the labels (which are, on my master file, on another layer and thus not interfering with the actual mapping) would assist new players in growing used to who goes where. Just a little extra. That, and I like how on this projection it appears the labels farther north and south seem to be standing up off of the map a bit. And, really, while I may act like I don't like fiddling with drawing in "non-existent" borders on the map, it doesn't bother me all that much--unless it's Chemaki doing it. :P (j/k).

In regards to the Spanish exclaves, I'd be interested in working out something you with you where those changed to Roman hands...... but I don't want some boring old story to define why this is so. We need something that is comedic-ish.

EDIT: Here is the finished map product with Walmingtonian changed in Morocco.

EDIT #2: Thanks, WoS, for making me want to add the Canary Islands again... curses!!
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Postby Chrinthanium » Mon Jul 14, 2014 11:31 pm

Hey, AMW!

Chrinthanium here and I wanted to talk to you today about your shape. Now stop patting your belly. I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about the shape of your nation. We've all seen the AMW Big Map with all those RL borders crisscrossing the map like varicose veins on an octogenarian with poor circulation. How can you tell just what, exactly, your nation looks like through that explosions of zigzags and spidering lines? What if your nation doesn't even resemble what you think it does because some big black line is covering your Southwestern border? How will you know?

Well, have I got the solution for you! I've spent countless hours in my room, alone, playing with my graphic manipulation program to help you better see what your nation looks like! Yes, folks, I bring to you, the Great AMW "What Our Nations Really Look Like" Map! Now those pesky borders are GONE! No more scribbles, scraggles, or even dribbles within your borders! Yes, the What Our Nations Really Look Like Map (TM 2014, Chrinthanium) takes the guesswork out of the whole ordeal.

Now you may ask just how much money this map is worth? Well, I'm not gonna charge you $100, or even $50. In fact, because I like you, I'm not even going to charge you $9.99! "No," you say? "You can't possibly be that crazy," you ask? POPPYCOCK! Today, and for the rest of AMW's existence, I'll give you this map for FREE! Yes, folks, for NO CHARGE you can have this map. Wow your family at the dinner table while you tell them about that time Chingiz chased you across the steppe with his trusty hippo! Tuck your children into bed at night telling them about that time you got fondled by Emperor Nathaniel at that night club when you went down to Sydney on your gap year!

BUT WAIT! THERE'S MORE!

Not only do you get this map for FREE, you also get the standard AMW Claims Map absolutely free as well! Yes, that's two maps for the price of none! Call today, operators are standing by. Some assembly required. Batteries not included. Chrinthanium cannot be held responsible for death, dismemberment, or other injury--physical, mental, emotional, or otherwise--for improper use of these maps.

Get yours today!

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Postby The Amyclae » Tue Jul 15, 2014 6:32 am

That's actually really neat. Good work Chris.
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Postby Chemaki » Tue Jul 15, 2014 6:56 am

Truly, Chris, you are a god amongst men.

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Postby Chrinthanium » Tue Jul 15, 2014 1:14 pm

I need national capitals (and their RL locations) from Zion, Anahuac, FIS, and Kutch. In time, since some of us have geographic claims that are of a good size, a few other cities within some claims will appear, too. The goal is to create as close to a world map as we're used to IRL. I like doing these maps and I will keep strengthening my skills until AMW has a map that is the envy of every other group in NS. In the future, I want to get to a point where I can draw in the first-level subdivisions of each nation. That's going to take work on my part as well as some of us deciding just where those lines are drawn.
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Ex-Nation

Postby Kyr Shorn » Tue Jul 15, 2014 4:52 pm

Indus looks so small compared to what I originally had in mind for it (i.e. a bloated, massively overpopulated and corrupt state). But it's still my twisted little nightmare. :twisted:

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Kyr Shorn
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Founded: Dec 01, 2009
Ex-Nation

Postby Kyr Shorn » Tue Jul 15, 2014 6:11 pm

I've added to my history page, it's a basic explanation about Indusi expansion after the founding of the republic and the 'Golden Age'.

However I'm thinking about scrapping the possible section involving the Great War since I just can't picture any major role that Indus would have played.

I have plans to write about the modern era, just need to get some things sorted out, and hear back from Jat about Kutch.

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