1st NSOSM Scouting Conference (IC, Closed)

[Former Wellboneland]

"Still no, because I want the boys to stay away from guns, not use them. This is the reason we signed up for the scouts, because we do not want our children to turn into violent adults. The wives of my nation beat the men too much, and the men go and kill because they have been beaten. Also, I heard that hill was ugly."

Nutella adjusted the expensive stone on her necklace and sat down.

[Crystal Spires]

Beren bowed as he complied with the demands of Churchill, but found that as soon as he entered the room once again, the Luziciyan was spewing anti-Communist rhetoric. Forbidding Spirean children from attending an international jamboree and labeling children as political dissidents? That was ridiculous and laughable, but given the acts of Luziciya before in their massacre of men, women and children and bombing of hospitals and schools Beren was not willing to put any Spirean children's lives at risk. Furthermore he had nothing to prove. Spireans were not oppressed, and have indeed were a free and democratic nation with protected rights and a sapient rights record that was squeaky clean, and Spires did in fact make up a core national participant of the International Union of Equality and Freedom, which meant that Spirean record was held to an even higher international standard.

This along with Spirean core values made it impossible for Spirean governance to be corrupt. If it were to be corrupted, the punishment would be immense and severe. Though it was clear that the Luziciyan was actually not interested in the truth, because to Luziciyans blood of Communists was worth any price no matter the source, and Beren was not going to allow his troop to be put at risk. If it were to be held in Luziciya it would be impossible for their troop to go.

"Joy and salutations, and I hope that these outbursts do not become a force of habit, but I do not feel that Luziciya is the best bid for such a place if we are looking for a place for a Jamboree or even scouting at all. Might I perhaps suggest in Crystal Spires instead? The city of Majkalur is next to Lake Azohuorah and is near the Aerilani Forest and also the Swamps of Fallhelm. It is a good place to get familiar with unique and different environmental conditions, and furthermore the city of Majkalur is not far away for more city-oriented activities. Majkalur is really the best of most worlds. We can go hiking, backpacking, camping, sailing, canoeing, fishing, orienteering, and I have even seen small caves in the area for some fun cave exploration. Furthermore a unified merit badge system may perhaps be something we should also consider."

[Luziyca]

Beren bowed as he complied with the demands of Churchill, but found that as soon as he entered the room once again, the Luziciyan was spewing anti-Communist rhetoric. Forbidding Spirean children from attending an international jamboree and labeling children as political dissidents? That was ridiculous and laughable, but given the acts of Luziciya before in their massacre of men, women and children and bombing of hospitals and schools Beren was not willing to put any Spirean children's lives at risk. Furthermore he had nothing to prove. Spireans were not oppressed, and have indeed were a free and democratic nation with protected rights and a sapient rights record that was squeaky clean, and Spires did in fact make up a core national participant of the International Union of Equality and Freedom, which meant that Spirean record was held to an even higher international standard.

This along with Spirean core values made it impossible for Spirean governance to be corrupt. If it were to be corrupted, the punishment would be immense and severe. Though it was clear that the Luziciyan was actually not interested in the truth, because to Luziciyans blood of Communists was worth any price no matter the source, and Beren was not going to allow his troop to be put at risk. If it were to be held in Luziciya it would be impossible for their troop to go.

"Joy and salutations, and I hope that these outbursts do not become a force of habit, but I do not feel that Luziciya is the best bid for such a place if we are looking for a place for a Jamboree or even scouting at all. Might I perhaps suggest in Crystal Spires instead? The city of Majkalur is next to Lake Azohuorah and is near the Aerilani Forest and also the Swamps of Fallhelm. It is a good place to get familiar with unique and different environmental conditions, and furthermore the city of Majkalur is not far away for more city-oriented activities. Majkalur is really the best of most worlds. We can go hiking, backpacking, camping, sailing, canoeing, fishing, orienteering, and I have even seen small caves in the area for some fun cave exploration. Furthermore a unified merit badge system may perhaps be something we should also consider."

"Luziyca shall OPPOSE it on the grounds of oppression, destruction of liberty AND human rights!" Laird exclaimed. "If any sane nation sends our scouts there, they will come back as Stalinists, and as a threat to liberty and democracy!"

[Former Wellboneland]

"Good gods, please shut up. They are not going to be stalinists just because they set foot on Spires. It's like saying you are not stupid. Seriously, how is anyone going to take you seriously if you keep raging and are not willing to try new things? I vote for Crystal Spires as the hosting spot, and if none of you agree, I'm going to throw out Sanctuaria Forest as a possible hosting spot. It is peaceful and there are many tall trees to climb. We can camp and toast meat and sing 'peaceful songs' (OOC: Death metal). It will be so fun! But, I'm only putting this out there if you people can't agree." Nutella said.

[Avstroslavia]

"Uhm hello gentlemen" said Peter Joungschloss, as he entered the room "We missed the bus, sorry for being late. Now let me introduce ourselves , I am Peter Joungscloss the representant of the ASR (Avstroslavia Scouting Rasseblement) and this is Matevž Drvar represantant of the ACSA (Avstroslavia Catholic Scouting Association) and Aleksander Hermann reprtesantant of the NSM (National Scouting Mouvement). they represent the two most important branches of the ASR. Bassicaly they are here to argue on which one is the best..."
"Hey I heard that" said Aleksander "Stop talking about everyone about our uhm ... internal disagrements!"
"For once I agree with him" said Matevž.
"Oh. lets go over that shall we?" repied Peter. "Anyway we just heard about that jamboree, I agree with Nuttela, that going into Spyres won't turn us into stalinists. Oh, and by the way in the ASR it's a tradition to sleep in tents so just reserve us a field no need for any cabins or such nonsenses."
"I just want to acknowgelde you that the ACSA has many scouts bands (OOC: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsjntbtBBGY), I personally think that we could organise a PEACEFULL music contest, what do you think?" said Drvar.
"The NSM isn't without music neither" quickly responded Aleksander (OOC: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwLQ1wl7Yxc ) "i can asure you that we would like to participate in something like this..."

[Demphor]

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[Luziyca]

"If the bid for Crystal Spires ever GETS approved, our nation WILL VETO this proposal, and if necessary, request that Crystal Spires gets expelled," exclaimed Laird. "They have committed discrimination against non-human species, and indeed, I have 'proof.'"

He then took out an iPad, and showed a Changling beating a pony to death in front of a large crowd (which really used Photoshop), heads of ponies and humans on pikes and Crystal Spires planning to invade Hippostania and "exterminate ALL life in Hippostania," which were "leaked." In reality, all of the evidence was made up. When he showed the evidence to the executive, Liard then said, "This is what Crystal Spires DID TO ITS OWN PEOPLE."

[Demphor]

"Can we see that video for, urm, further examination?" asked Mr. Churchill. "A video is not enough, or a video of an interview, if you have proof, bring someone in here from the Crystal Spires, claiming this is true."

[Luziyca]

"Can we see that video for, urm, further examination?" asked Mr. Churchill. "A video is not enough, or a video of an interview, if you have proof, bring someone in here from the Crystal Spires, claiming this is true."

"Sure." Promptly, a scout walked in. She was a pony "refugee" whose name was Snoopy Dash.

"And twas, a refugee from Crystal Spires, Snoopy Dash."

"He-hello," Snoopy said. "I-I am S-snoopy D-dash, and I-I am a-a r-refugee from C-Crystal S-Spires. I-I am f-fifteen y-years o-old, and I-I was b-born in M-Majkalur. When I was n-nine, I w-witnessed o-officers from the police, beating a p-pony d-due to their race. The crowd was forced to call that poor p-pony slurs, and for what? N-NOTHING! That P-Pony, who I think was Tiara," as tears flowed from her eyes, "d-died, and was n-not g-given t-treatment." She then cried very hard.

[Former Wellboneland]

"My god that is HORRID. Please put that awa.." Nutella exclaimed when she saw the picture of the beating. "Wait, LIAM? Liam would never beat a pony to death! This is slander! That is my adoptive son and you will not frame him for crimes! You apologize to me right now!" Nutella yelled, shaking her hooves at Laird with rage.

She was approached by her guards and the guard whispered in her ear.

"It may be best for children under the age of 13 to leave." Nutella suggested.

OOC: Don't yell at me, Luziyca owes all of us for the raeg.

[Luziyca]

"My god that is HORRID. Please put that awa.." Nutella exclaimed when she saw the picture of the beating. "Wait, LIAM? Liam would never beat a pony to death! This is slander! That is my adoptive son and you will not frame him for crimes! You apologize to me right now!" Nutella yelled, shaking her hooves at Laird with rage.

She was approached by her guards and the guard whispered in her ear.

"It may be best for children under the age of 13 to leave." Nutella suggested.

OOC: Don't yell at me, Luziyca owes all of us for the raeg.

OOC: I am not angry, my dear friend, since IC =/= OOC.

IC: Laird then sighing heavily. "WELL? Look, comrade. Your son, he TOOK part in the beating. In any case, there is more evidence from the CIA World Factbook of Crystal Spires as well as it documents and records."

Laird then took out a stash of documents of "human rights violations" in Crystal Spires, and began reading them aloud to everyone in the room...

When he was done, he said, "Well, that proves evidence. Well, there is more," and then showed an interview, of someone who was dressed EXACTLY like Mavyn, and the whole time, she INSULTS ponies, and even throws a brick at a pony journalist.

[Former Wellboneland]

"You little shit! How dare you call my son a murderer!" Nutella asked,tears in her eyes.

She then remembered a more important question, one that would expose his lie. She adjusted herself and asked ever so calmly and with dignity:
"When, pray tell, was this picture taken?"

[Luziyca]

"You little shit! How dare you call my son a murderer!" Nutella asked,tears in her eyes.

She then remembered a more important question, one that would expose his lie. She adjusted herself and asked ever so calmly and with dignity:
"When, pray tell, was this picture taken?"

"It was taken on August 1, 2006."

[Former Wellboneland]

"You little shit! How dare you call my son a murderer!" Nutella asked,tears in her eyes.

She then remembered a more important question, one that would expose his lie. She adjusted herself and asked ever so calmly and with dignity:
"When, pray tell, was this picture taken?"

"It was taken on August 1, 2003."

"Ah, August 1. I was huddling in a corner and Liam stood outside the door fending off the Tyrantist Army while I was cradling baby Grassy in my arms, fearing for our lives. I explicitly remember we were too poor to move to the city, much less Crystal Spires. Don't tell me that Liam was beating innocents to my face when in fact, he was beating evil Tyrantist Hatebreeders with giant guns, armed with rocks." Nutella said with a scowl. "Don't pull that off again. I move that Luziyca be suspended from making further decisions until Laird can be competent."

[Luziyca]

"It was taken on August 1, 2003."

"Ah, August 1. I was huddling in a corner and Liam stood outside the door fending off the Tyrantist Army while I was cradling baby Grassy in my arms, fearing for our lives. I explicitly remember we were too poor to move to the city, much less Crystal Spires. Don't tell me that Liam was beating innocents to my face when in fact, he was beating evil Tyrantist Hatebreeders with giant guns, armed with rocks." Nutella said with a scowl. "Don't pull that off again. I move that Luziyca be suspended from making further decisions until Laird can be competent."

"Um," he said, "his passport begs to differ."

He then handed a fake passport which looked ridiculously real, and seemingly can only be told by specialized equipment. It had all of his information and appeared it was issued in 2003.

[Former Wellboneland]

"Ah, August 1. I was huddling in a corner and Liam stood outside the door fending off the Tyrantist Army while I was cradling baby Grassy in my arms, fearing for our lives. I explicitly remember we were too poor to move to the city, much less Crystal Spires. Don't tell me that Liam was beating innocents to my face when in fact, he was beating evil Tyrantist Hatebreeders with giant guns, armed with rocks." Nutella said with a scowl. "Don't pull that off again. I move that Luziyca be suspended from making further decisions until Laird can be competent."

"Um," he said, "his passport begs to differ."

He then handed a fake passport which looked ridiculously real, and seemingly can only be told by specialized equipment. It had all of his information and appeared it was issued in 2003.

"This isn't a passport from 2003. In 2003, Ponies had NO rights, save for the right to welfare in some provinces and therefore could only leave the country by way of suicide. Liam, however could not get a passport until 2010. You keep lying, and your stupidity shows through, when you neglected to see that one fact. I suggest you stop making yourself look retarded."

[Luziyca]

"Um," he said, "his passport begs to differ."

He then handed a fake passport which looked ridiculously real, and seemingly can only be told by specialized equipment. It had all of his information and appeared it was issued in 2003.

"This isn't a passport from 2003. In 2003, Ponies had NO rights, save for the right to welfare in some provinces and therefore could only leave the country by way of suicide. Liam, however could not get a passport until 2010. You keep lying, and your stupidity shows through, when you neglected to see that one fact. I suggest you stop making yourself look retarded."

"Well, HE WAS A REFUGEE," he exclaimed. "He left the country illegally, got to Crystal Spires, got a passport, joined the police and tortured other people of his kin."

He then took a sip of coffee. "Records by the Central Intelligence Agency, his passport, the video and testimony by a young girl, invariably proves one thing: Crystal Spires MUST be expelled for violating sapient rights."

[Former Wellboneland]

"This isn't a passport from 2003. In 2003, Ponies had NO rights, save for the right to welfare in some provinces and therefore could only leave the country by way of suicide. Liam, however could not get a passport until 2010. You keep lying, and your stupidity shows through, when you neglected to see that one fact. I suggest you stop making yourself look retarded."

"Well, HE WAS A REFUGEE," he exclaimed. "He left the country illegally, got to Crystal Spires, got a passport, joined the police and tortured other people of his kin."

He then took a sip of coffee. "Records by the Central Intelligence Agency, his passport, the video and testimony by a young girl, invariably proves one thing: Crystal Spires MUST be expelled for violating sapient rights."

"Leaving the nation by boat or plane for a pony in that era was impossible, and if he went by foot, Liam sure runs fast. I see you are incompetent too, lying about Spires, and more importantly, my son, one I raised to be a good boy, one who would never beat a person or pony unless provoked. Even if he did escape, why didn't he go to Soviet Canukcistan instead and only walked a few miles instead of a few thousand to Crystal Spires. He would have rather protected me and his brothers and sisters, as he is the oldest. Not getting a gift for your stupidity is the least of your problems now."

[Luziyca]

"Well, HE WAS A REFUGEE," he exclaimed. "He left the country illegally, got to Crystal Spires, got a passport, joined the police and tortured other people of his kin."

He then took a sip of coffee. "Records by the Central Intelligence Agency, his passport, the video and testimony by a young girl, invariably proves one thing: Crystal Spires MUST be expelled for violating sapient rights."

"Leaving the nation by boat or plane for a pony in that era was impossible, and if he went by foot, Liam sure runs fast. I see you are incompetent too, lying about Spires, and more importantly, my son, one I raised to be a good boy, one who would never beat a person or pony unless provoked. Even if he did escape, why didn't he go to Soviet Canukcistan instead and only walked a few miles instead of a few thousand to Crystal Spires. He would have rather protected me and his brothers and sisters, as he is the oldest. Not getting a gift for your stupidity is the least of your problems now."

"He could've arrived there, AND then headed to Crystal Spires," Laird said with a smile on his face. "There, he could have cut all contacts, and became harsh, but resigned in 2011, well, was laid off, to make it look like their human rights record is squeaky clean when it is so messy that even mud is better than their human rights record."

[Crystal Spires]

"Now, now, let me be entirely clear, ponies are not at all discriminated against in Crystal Spires, and we did in fact get entry into the Coalition of Ponyist States for being friends to every pony. This deceit deserves no attention, and is merely more evidence that Luziciya has no actual cause for determination of anti ponyism and I know Snoopy Dash is lying because Majkalur does not have 'police', we do not call police 'officers' in Crystal Spires either. Any Spirean would know that, so this is once again another smoke-screen which bears attention, Snoopy Dash is in fact being coerced to say such nonsense which does generate pause. Why would someone coerce this gentle colt into saying such things?" Beren asked rhetorically as he shook his head.

"Furthermore these claims about the High Chancellor, whom I voted for, border upon slander. That man does not speak with a Spirean accent, and furthermore does not look like Maven at all. As for that beating which is horrific, no doubt, allow me to be clear, those are not the uniforms of a Knight, an Uncorruptible, or a Ranger, and nor do they have an ordinance, which all Uncorruptibles would bear." Beren said as he took out a badge which said Beren Glavenhalm: Third Order of Uncorruptibles in Majkalur

"Moreover, I do not recognize those men as any of my brothers in the Order. So explain yourself, Luziciyan, as a supporter of International Law, I do believe slander is an offense addressable in the Court of Demphor, is it not? If so, I daresay if we have an actual Spirean refugee we'd have a record of Snoopy Dash's rebirth record, and I'm sure if we look we will be able to find him, wouldn't we or is this another elaborate deception?"

"There is no evidence of Spirean anti ponyism in the slightest, and in fact the CoPS condemned Luziciya. Why would they do so and permit our people to represent pony interests internationally if we weren't pro-pony? This lunacy has gone far enough. It is my belief that this adamant slander of our people and our nation's head of state, and my brothers in the order must stop, or so help me I will call a Demphorian lawyer to create a lawsuit against you. Furthermore this meeting is supposed to be about world scouting, not about your desire to smear Spirean reputation in the mud, and to browbeat children, and harass us for all that is public record." Beren said as he massaged his temples.

"Forgive me Mr. Churchill, I had hoped this would be a meeting to discuss International Scouting, and had I known this would merely be an attempt to smear Spirean reputation in the scouting community or I would not have come, nor brought my troop. I believe giving Luziciyans say over the Council already determines their voice has more power than we do in decision making, and barring Spirean entry into the Jamboree and the World Scouting Initiative does seem to be the Luziciyan intention other than mere slander. It is perhaps because they fear us, and our personal power,but if you support Luziciya, then I determine that we are unwelcome in the NationStates Organization of the Scout Movement and we will likely be forced to leave this organization. We will furthermore denounce the organization if Luziciya is kept in the Council Position, for their bigotry against the Spirean people is easy to see. My advice is to remove their position, as our lawsuit of slander indeed is grounds for removal, is it not?" Beren asked with a curious look. "...But if we are truly welcome, it would be better to actually show it with clear actions..." he said while looking at the Luziciyan delegate.

[Avstroslavia]

OOC: Wait when did this turn into a MLP thread?

[Crystal Spires]

It didn't, Luziciya has accused the Uncorruptibles (The Spirean Police) of Police Brutality and Racial discrimination (specifically ponies with this) and I called shenanigans because they got it all wrong, and beyond that I was permitted into the Coalition of Ponyist States for my fanatical defense of sapient rights, and specifically pony rights, which Crystal Spires is well known for being an influential communist figure in the Coalition.

[Avstroslavia]

It didn't, Luziciya has accused the Uncorruptibles (The Spirean Police) of Police Brutality and Racial discrimination (specifically ponies with this) and I called shenanigans because they got it all wrong, and beyond that I was permitted into the Coalition of Ponyist States for my fanatical defense of sapient rights, and specifically pony rights, which Crystal Spires is well known for being an influential communist figure in the Coalition.

OOC: Thanks for the explanation I gota little confused :3

[Demphor]

"These matters should be SET ASIDE for other times, I have no doubt that your nations hate one another, but this is a time to put aside nationalities and think about where to host this. I really think we should chose a neutral nation where conflict won't happen." said Mr. Churchill.

[Former Wellboneland]

"Precisely why I put forward Wellboneland. It is a beautiful country now that they cleaned up the mess from the Revolt. I admit, it is unstable and in Bonelandic culture swearing is not restricted, but Sanctuaria is a pony province with a less violent culture. However, since Gasconne Tyrant became governor, things have been a bit... tense. Still, it is neutral ground and I hope none of you will have any complaints. We can also hike the Frhoste Mountains and play on the beaches, the beaches with pretty obsidian stones that can be taken as souvenirs. I also advise against guns, because most of the scouts I bring here were snatched from prison after preforming revenge killings. Guns are bad."