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Vorradia
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Postby Vorradia » Tue Dec 11, 2012 2:11 pm

The power struggle in Vorradia is mainly about the various nations vying for control and influence in the new Vorradian state, whether through legitimate means, or more underhanded methods.

What im worried though is that too many nations will opt simply for the GUD or EVULZ choice, and back either the sane mainstream democratic party, or the axe crazy fanatical terrorists intent on reestablishing the horrific theocracy.

The most interesting and devious political subterfuge and conflict would come from nations being more selfish and trying to manipulate the situation to their own ends, funding terrorists that share their particular ideals and backing movements and parties that will benefit them rather than Vorradia.

Of course there need to be a mix of nations pursuing the three different goals.
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Postby Vorradia » Tue Dec 11, 2012 2:13 pm

At the moment im trying to sum up the RP so that I can set up the OOC thread, but im having a bit of trouble trying to put it into better words than have already been done here.

I assume everyone here knows whats going on, and it'll be invite only, but of course i need to put up an explanation on the thread itself. For the OOC explanation of the thread could I just post a link here?
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Postby Saurisisia » Tue Dec 11, 2012 2:16 pm

You know, Saurisia never was really involved in the Vorradia conflict, though I'm sure it would be interested in spreading its international influence through political intrigue.
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Postby New Nassrau » Tue Dec 11, 2012 2:17 pm

The Second Rpublic could get involved for economic benefit... and besides, if the CoPs comes back together, how will we keep it from falling apart again?
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Postby Vorradia » Tue Dec 11, 2012 2:18 pm

New Nassrau wrote:The Second Rpublic could get involved for economic benefit... and besides, if the CoPs comes back together, how will we keep it from falling apart again?


It hasn't necessarily come back together.
Vorradia. A place where freedom is a fading memory. At the heart of the sprawling, embattled province lies Imperial City. Or as the city is really called by the poor souls who inhabit it: Forsaken Hope. Here they suffer under a fanatically religious totalitarian regime. Outside the city walls lies a frozen and inhospitable wasteland. The people here live free from government control, but at a terrible price. They live in small nomadic communities, struggling to survive in the harsh climate.

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Postby Vorradia » Tue Dec 11, 2012 2:41 pm

I think the current government should be a well intentioned but ineffectual liberal democratic party.

Anyone got any idea for some more parties?


Vorradia wrote:
Vorradia wrote:Alright, heres a proposition for an RP to resolve the conflict.

Vorradia was liberated by the Coalition of Ponynist States and it's allies shortly before the Coalition collapsed.

The Holy Imperial Territories of Vorradia have been replaced by The Republic of Reformed Vorradia. Democratic elections have been held successfully and a legitimate government has been put in place.

However, there are still many problems. After the liberation, tens of thousands of Vorradians decided they hated the freezing, war-town polluted shithole, regardless of the new government in place. Now they were finally free to leave Vorradia. And so they did en masse, emigrating to the nations that had liberated them.

Though the rebuilding of Vorradia and it's financial recovery are going well due to Vorradia's massive mineral wealth, Vorradia still has many problems.

Not all of the Vorradian people had been successfully rehabilitated, and so when, all of a sudden Vorradians had the chance to live in new countries, along with the hundreds of thousands of immigrants came hundreds of bitter radicals and church sympathisers. Vorradian terrorism is quickly spiralling out of control in nations across the globe, and all the blame is falling on the new government, which is accused of being weak and ineffectual.

Vorradia's democratic success is questionable too, as a cabal of the rehabilitated and clerical defectors are the ones in government, much of the populace still too mentally damaged to lead their own nation.


One Big Vorradian terrorist mastermind reveals himself to the world in a video, calling for a unified Vorradian terrorist movement across the liberator nations to destroy all the nations that liberated Vorradia, so that Vorradia itself can be turned back into a theocracy without Pony military intervention.

Nations that support the insurgency and want to refound Vorradia, such as the IASM, can fund and support Vorradian terrorists across the Liberator Nations, while the Liberator nations try to stamp out the insurgencies and try to hunt down their leader. Its a proxy war rather than an outright war between nations.

Meanwhile, the nations involved try to work towards establishing their own interests in Vorradia, backing the radicals, the new democracy, or trying to usurp both for their own ends. There would be benefits to backing your own movement in vorradia, as controlling Vorradia through a puppet government would allow it's vast mineral wealth to become yours. You could do whatever you wanted with it. You would have my permission.

Lots of room for story and character-building, with strained international relationships, covert operations and secrecy. It will also finally resolve the ongoing conflict in Vorradia that has been ongoing since the 1st Coalition Vorradian War.

Either the chaos will end and a stable government and Vorradian state will be formed, and the victors interests will be firmly established in Vorradia (whether it will end up the democracy it set out to be, or someones fascist puppet state, or a communist nation or whatever is open-ended)

Or, the conflict will continue unresolved, and Vorradia will be mired in never-ending chaos and terror

To make the RP interesting, I'd be perfectly happy to let pretty much anything happen to Vorradia. Theres only limited avenues I can take it down myself, much more interesting for it's fate to be decided this way, in an open-ended scenario where anything could happen.


Anyone interested?


Vorradia wrote:Great to see so much interest. I'll set up an OOC thread where we can pool ideas and work out the specifics.



Stuff like this is perfect. You wont have to support either the New Vorradian democracy or fund the Vorradian terrorists fighting for the reestablishment of the clergy. You can create, fund and manipulate your own Vorradian terrorist movements to push forward your own agendas covertly. If you want to establish Marxism in Vorradia, then you can fund a communist insurgency in the country.

I also had the idea that the next democratic election in Vorradia should be upcoming, and occur near the middle of the thread, so if you want to establish a government that serves your interests, but want to do so in more legitimate ways than funding terrorism, you can back different parties or create and manipulate your own puppet party.

And, for added fun, since the Coalition has collapsed, the Pony nations no longer all have to be on the same side. You could declare yourself to the other nations to be against the Vorradian terror cells, at least in your own country, but then covertly fund it in someone else's nation if you have a score to be settled, or want them taken care of but don't want to fight a war yourself. The more devious the better.


We need to work out what the legitimate Political parties of Vorradia are. I never bothered to flesh it out. Anyone have any ideas for realistic mainstream political parties?

Since Vorradia is a newly formed nation in political turmoil unsure of the direction it will take, it seems reasonable that it would have mainstream parties covering most points in the political spectrum.

Any suggestions?
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Postby Vorradia » Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:09 pm

Equestrian States wrote:Well, I was looking for a way to have my current leaders be replaced by Cadance and Shining Armor...

I suppose assassination by terrorists would work. Count me in.


What delicious political deviousness.

Pitch-perfect for this RP.
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Vorradia. A place where freedom is a fading memory. At the heart of the sprawling, embattled province lies Imperial City. Or as the city is really called by the poor souls who inhabit it: Forsaken Hope. Here they suffer under a fanatically religious totalitarian regime. Outside the city walls lies a frozen and inhospitable wasteland. The people here live free from government control, but at a terrible price. They live in small nomadic communities, struggling to survive in the harsh climate.

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New Nassrau
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Postby New Nassrau » Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:20 pm

Vorradia wrote:
New Nassrau wrote:The Second Rpublic could get involved for economic benefit... and besides, if the CoPs comes back together, how will we keep it from falling apart again?


It hasn't necessarily come back together.

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Postby Crystal Spires » Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:27 pm

Vorradia wrote:I think the current government should be a well intentioned but ineffectual liberal democratic party.

Anyone got any idea for some more parties?


The Liberal Theocratic Party

The Social Democrats/Labor

The Communist Party

The Neo Luddite Environmental Protection Group

The "Fuck the Environment, let's Make Vorradia Livable" Party

The Classical Liberal Party

The Neo Conservative Party

The Fascist Nationalist Party

The Justice Party

The Liberal Democratic Party
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Postby Carceno » Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:38 pm

Crystal Spires wrote:
Vorradia wrote:I think the current government should be a well intentioned but ineffectual liberal democratic party.

Anyone got any idea for some more parties?


The Liberal Theocratic Party

The Social Democrats/Labor

The Communist Party

The Neo Luddite Environmental Protection Group

The "Fuck the Environment, let's Make Vorradia Livable" Party

The Classical Liberal Party

The Neo Conservative Party

The Fascist Nationalist Party

The Justice Party

The Liberal Democratic Party


The Liberal Egalitarian Party

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Danarian
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Postby Danarian » Tue Dec 11, 2012 6:06 pm

Vorradia, I think that your nation might just have the right combination of factors to become a 'freeport' for a certain group of Straka (Pirates)...
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Postby Cevalo Nacio » Wed Dec 12, 2012 6:33 am

The current government sounds to me like it could be some Menshevik-esque government.

Additionally I have a party suggestion

The Vorradian Peasents Front (Maoists, Communists are notorious for infighting, so multiple communist parties would most likely develop)

Depending on your preferences the radical left could be under a single Umbrella Party or be factionally divided to a ridiculous extent.

The Cevalan Government has effectively been taken over by the Communists and as such will support both Marxist political parties and will probably form a Marxist Revolutionary Organization, most likely in the vein of the PFLP or the EZLN or maybe the VietCong.
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Postby Urmanian » Wed Dec 12, 2012 1:36 pm

3 hours ago: Following new legislation in Urmanian, the nation has recently been attributed to the funding of terrorist organisations.

>.>
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Postby Princess Luna » Wed Dec 12, 2012 3:34 pm

I am taking a brief hiatus from COPS RP and IRC. No threads will be updated save possibly Scarfell, the Night Guard one, the Lanos one, and EqIsle's one for the next couple of weeks (IE, Luna's threads will still be updated with COPS, C'tan's will not).

Still love you all, but I need a break.

Any technical issues with the IRC, my e-mail is "feaelen" at yer standard gmail ending.

Peace out folks!

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Postby The Ctan » Wed Dec 12, 2012 3:46 pm

Also Scarfell will get a post soon. Though a Luna one too.
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Postby Crystal Spires » Wed Dec 12, 2012 4:13 pm

The Ctan wrote:Also Scarfell will get a post soon. Though a Luna one too.


Oooohhh.... I will like this very much.

Also, feel better soon! I'm sure you'll be back after the sanity break with tons of fun ideas.
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Postby The Republic of Lanos » Wed Dec 12, 2012 8:20 pm

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Postby Tel » Thu Dec 13, 2012 5:55 am

Hm...


Permission to say Tel'Avos provided the Democratic forces with ammunition and weapons? Tel'Avos has a powerful arms manufacturing sector, namely around chemical weapons, and it would give me a reason to send in more than just the Intelligence Agency if things went south for Vorradia. Tel is pretty good about covering it's tracks, you'd pretty much have to hunt down their bug to know they were even involved, and they have an insurance policy instated to make any info they give incredibly vague.

But it's your country. I'm not going to say something that would mess the RP up.

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Postby Tel » Thu Dec 13, 2012 5:57 am

Urmanian wrote:3 hours ago: Following new legislation in Urmanian, the nation has recently been attributed to the funding of terrorist organisations.

>.>


What's it worth to you for me not to walk across NationStates and tell my friend The United States of Liberty Prime that you supported COMMUNISM and TERRORISM? :P

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Postby Licana » Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:16 am

Tel wrote:
Urmanian wrote:3 hours ago: Following new legislation in Urmanian, the nation has recently been attributed to the funding of terrorist organisations.

>.>


What's it worth to you for me not to walk across NationStates and tell my friend The United States of Liberty Prime that you supported COMMUNISM and TERRORISM? :P

Something tells me you'd be hard pressed to find a GPH politician (or any GPH pony in power rlly) that could be said to support communism in any of its form form.
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Postby Lubyak » Thu Dec 13, 2012 9:56 am

Licana wrote:
Tel wrote:
What's it worth to you for me not to walk across NationStates and tell my friend The United States of Liberty Prime that you supported COMMUNISM and TERRORISM? :P

Something tells me you'd be hard pressed to find a GPH politician (or any GPH pony in power rlly) that could be said to support communism in any of its form form.


The GPH Communist Party consists of 3 college ponies who sit around smoking weed while talking abut how fascist the GPH is. And then Sturmponies break in, beat them up and steal all their pot.

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Postby Cevalo Nacio » Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:52 pm

Lubyak wrote:
Licana wrote:Something tells me you'd be hard pressed to find a GPH politician (or any GPH pony in power rlly) that could be said to support communism in any of its form form.


The GPH Communist Party consists of 3 college ponies who sit around smoking weed while talking abut how fascist the GPH is. And then Sturmponies break in, beat them up and steal all their pot.


That sounds like the Cevalan Libertarian Party. This is because Libertarians in Cevalo Nacio are forced to register with the local government and are not allowed to own firearms and pay a "stupidity tax" of 10% added to their income tax. Thus the only libertarians are some spoiled rich ponies at Edinderp University.
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Postby Urmanian » Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:54 pm

Licana wrote:Something tells me you'd be hard pressed to find a GPH politician (or any GPH pony in power rlly) that could be said to support communism in any of its form form.


Why, quite a few of our politicians, even Morning Star himself, support communism, in the form where it crawls in a hole and dies in it!
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Postby Crystal Spires » Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:56 pm

Urmanian wrote:Why, quite a few of our politicians, even Morning Star himself, support communism, in the form where it crawls in a hole and dies in it!


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Postby Licana » Thu Dec 13, 2012 3:04 pm

Crystal Spires wrote:
Urmanian wrote:Why, quite a few of our politicians, even Morning Star himself, support communism, in the form where it crawls in a hole and dies in it!


*Mauls for Great Justice*

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