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[The IASM]

I dont think anyone wants another RP set in Vorradia.

I do :<

People were saying earlier we needed an enemy, im sure the AoD would be willing to get into a war to reestablish the clergy.

Ugh. No. Please no AoD. Nothing personal but I've seen a couple pony things they're into now and it's not something I or anyone here wants to be involved in, and completely incompatible with CoPS canon. Third Vorradian War would be fun, however. With the hyperpowers of the first two wars having a rearming pause while the remaining pony nations have to work much more intricately instead of blowing everything up to try and still prop up the feeble democratic government...I see how that could work.

Would I be a suitable foe?

[Vorradia]

Alright, heres a proposition for an RP to resolve the conflict.

Vorradia was liberated by the Coalition of Ponynist States and it's allies shortly before the Coalition collapsed.

The Holy Imperial Territories of Vorradia have been replaced by The Republic of Reformed Vorradia. Democratic elections have been held successfully and a legitimate government has been put in place.

However, there are still many problems. After the liberation, tens of thousands of Vorradians decided they hated the freezing, war-town polluted shithole, regardless of the new government in place. Now they were finally free to leave Vorradia. And so they did en masse, emigrating to the nations that had liberated them.

Though the rebuilding of Vorradia and it's financial recovery are going well due to Vorradia's massive mineral wealth, Vorradia still has many problems.

Not all of the Vorradian people had been successfully rehabilitated, and so when, all of a sudden Vorradians had the chance to live in new countries, along with the hundreds of thousands of immigrants came hundreds of bitter radicals and church sympathisers. Vorradian terrorism is quickly spiralling out of control in nations across the globe, and all the blame is falling on the new government, which is accused of being weak and ineffectual.

Vorradia's democratic success is questionable too, as a cabal of the rehabilitated and clerical defectors are the ones in government, much of the populace still too mentally damaged to lead their own nation.

One Big Vorradian terrorist mastermind reveals himself to the world in a video, calling for a unified Vorradian terrorist movement across the liberator nations to destroy all the nations that liberated Vorradia, so that Vorradia itself can be turned back into a theocracy without Pony military intervention.

Nations that support the insurgency and want to refound Vorradia, such as the IASM, can fund and support Vorradian terrorists across the Liberator Nations, while the Liberator nations try to stamp out the insurgencies and try to hunt down their leader. Its a proxy war rather than an outright war between nations.

Meanwhile, the nations involved try to work towards establishing their own interests in Vorradia, backing the radicals, the new democracy, or trying to usurp both for their own ends. There would be benefits to backing your own movement in vorradia, as controlling Vorradia through a puppet government would allow it's vast mineral wealth to become yours. You could do whatever you wanted with it. You would have my permission.

Lots of room for story and character-building, with strained international relationships, covert operations and secrecy. It will also finally resolve the ongoing conflict in Vorradia that has been ongoing since the 1st Coalition Vorradian War.

Either the chaos will end and a stable government and Vorradian state will be formed, and the victors interests will be firmly established in Vorradia (whether it will end up the democracy it set out to be, or someones fascist puppet state, or a communist nation or whatever is open-ended)

Or, the conflict will continue unresolved, and Vorradia will be mired in never-ending chaos and terror

To make the RP interesting, I'd be perfectly happy to let pretty much anything happen to Vorradia. Theres only limited avenues I can take it down myself, much more interesting for it's fate to be decided this way, in an open-ended scenario where anything could happen.

Anyone interested?

[Crystal Spires]

I am deeply interested. It sounds like fun.

[Cevalo Nacio]

Count me in!

[Lubyak]

I'll be done with exams in a few days, so I'll be happy to join.

[Saurisisia]

Hm, I am interested.

[Lykosia]

I'll possibly join, but not this week as I currently have exams. Since I withdrew from the blockade in the second Vorradian war thread, I'll just deal with the terrorists within Lykosia for some moment before we decide to
get into Vorradian conflict or anything.

Well, finally ASIS Act comes into use

[New Nassrau]

Hmmm, of course, I can't get into this until wednesday next week, but sure!

EDIT: However not all CoPs nations were in the Vorr. conflict, maybe somebody can call an alliance wide alert

[Cevalo Nacio]

The Cevalan Government could really go either way. Were opposed to Theocracy but if you make the Terrorists Marxists than we could support them as the Senate is dominated by The Cevalan Laborers Party and The CCP. Well serve whatever purpose serves the overall RP best.

[Danarian]

Alright, heres a proposition for an RP to resolve the conflict.

Vorradia was liberated by the Coalition of Ponynist States and it's allies shortly before the Coalition collapsed.

The Holy Imperial Territories of Vorradia have been replaced by The Republic of Reformed Vorradia. Democratic elections have been held successfully and a legitimate government has been put in place.

However, there are still many problems. After the liberation, tens of thousands of Vorradians decided they hated the freezing, war-town polluted shithole, regardless of the new government in place. Now they were finally free to leave Vorradia. And so they did en masse, emigrating to the nations that had liberated them.

Though the rebuilding of Vorradia and it's financial recovery are going well due to Vorradia's massive mineral wealth, Vorradia still has many problems.

Not all of the Vorradian people had been successfully rehabilitated, and so when, all of a sudden Vorradians had the chance to live in new countries, along with the hundreds of thousands of immigrants came hundreds of bitter radicals and church sympathisers. Vorradian terrorism is quickly spiralling out of control in nations across the globe, and all the blame is falling on the new government, which is accused of being weak and ineffectual.

Vorradia's democratic success is questionable too, as a cabal of the rehabilitated and clerical defectors are the ones in government, much of the populace still too mentally damaged to lead their own nation.

One Big Vorradian terrorist mastermind reveals himself to the world in a video, calling for a unified Vorradian terrorist movement across the liberator nations to destroy all the nations that liberated Vorradia, so that Vorradia itself can be turned back into a theocracy without Pony military intervention.

Nations that support the insurgency and want to refound Vorradia, such as the IASM, can fund and support Vorradian terrorists across the Liberator Nations, while the Liberator nations try to stamp out the insurgencies and try to hunt down their leader. Its a proxy war rather than an outright war between nations.

Meanwhile, the nations involved try to work towards establishing their own interests in Vorradia, backing the radicals, the new democracy, or trying to usurp both for their own ends. There would be benefits to backing your own movement in vorradia, as controlling Vorradia through a puppet government would allow it's vast mineral wealth to become yours. You could do whatever you wanted with it. You would have my permission.

Lots of room for story and character-building, with strained international relationships, covert operations and secrecy. It will also finally resolve the ongoing conflict in Vorradia that has been ongoing since the 1st Coalition Vorradian War.

Either the chaos will end and a stable government and Vorradian state will be formed, and the victors interests will be firmly established in Vorradia (whether it will end up the democracy it set out to be, or someones fascist puppet state, or a communist nation or whatever is open-ended)

Or, the conflict will continue unresolved, and Vorradia will be mired in never-ending chaos and terror

To make the RP interesting, I'd be perfectly happy to let pretty much anything happen to Vorradia. Theres only limited avenues I can take it down myself, much more interesting for it's fate to be decided this way, in an open-ended scenario where anything could happen.

Anyone interested?

I am interested, but I need to think of a way to get the Danarii involved. It is unlikely that the Federation would take any direct action, being a pre-warp civilization, but there may be other alternatives...?

[United States of Peace]

I have nothing to do, therefore you should let me join.

[Minroz]

Alright, heres a proposition for an RP to resolve the conflict.

Vorradia was liberated by the Coalition of Ponynist States and it's allies shortly before the Coalition collapsed.

The Holy Imperial Territories of Vorradia have been replaced by The Republic of Reformed Vorradia. Democratic elections have been held successfully and a legitimate government has been put in place.

However, there are still many problems. After the liberation, tens of thousands of Vorradians decided they hated the freezing, war-town polluted shithole, regardless of the new government in place. Now they were finally free to leave Vorradia. And so they did en masse, emigrating to the nations that had liberated them.

Though the rebuilding of Vorradia and it's financial recovery are going well due to Vorradia's massive mineral wealth, Vorradia still has many problems.

Not all of the Vorradian people had been successfully rehabilitated, and so when, all of a sudden Vorradians had the chance to live in new countries, along with the hundreds of thousands of immigrants came hundreds of bitter radicals and church sympathisers. Vorradian terrorism is quickly spiralling out of control in nations across the globe, and all the blame is falling on the new government, which is accused of being weak and ineffectual.

Vorradia's democratic success is questionable too, as a cabal of the rehabilitated and clerical defectors are the ones in government, much of the populace still too mentally damaged to lead their own nation.

One Big Vorradian terrorist mastermind reveals himself to the world in a video, calling for a unified Vorradian terrorist movement across the liberator nations to destroy all the nations that liberated Vorradia, so that Vorradia itself can be turned back into a theocracy without Pony military intervention.

Nations that support the insurgency and want to refound Vorradia, such as the IASM, can fund and support Vorradian terrorists across the Liberator Nations, while the Liberator nations try to stamp out the insurgencies and try to hunt down their leader. Its a proxy war rather than an outright war between nations.

Meanwhile, the nations involved try to work towards establishing their own interests in Vorradia, backing the radicals, the new democracy, or trying to usurp both for their own ends. There would be benefits to backing your own movement in vorradia, as controlling Vorradia through a puppet government would allow it's vast mineral wealth to become yours. You could do whatever you wanted with it. You would have my permission.

Lots of room for story and character-building, with strained international relationships, covert operations and secrecy. It will also finally resolve the ongoing conflict in Vorradia that has been ongoing since the 1st Coalition Vorradian War.

Either the chaos will end and a stable government and Vorradian state will be formed, and the victors interests will be firmly established in Vorradia (whether it will end up the democracy it set out to be, or someones fascist puppet state, or a communist nation or whatever is open-ended)

Or, the conflict will continue unresolved, and Vorradia will be mired in never-ending chaos and terror

To make the RP interesting, I'd be perfectly happy to let pretty much anything happen to Vorradia. Theres only limited avenues I can take it down myself, much more interesting for it's fate to be decided this way, in an open-ended scenario where anything could happen.

Anyone interested?

I'm interested too!

[Equestrian States]

Well, I was looking for a way to have my current leaders be replaced by Cadance and Shining Armor...

I suppose assassination by terrorists would work. Count me in.

[Tel]

I'd join. Tel'Avos probably would've ICly had a hoof in liberating Vorradia somewhere as their policy is "Never show your hand, but always play it." when it comes to revolution, whether it decides to act officially or not.

If you'd allow me, I could fit that into my storyline. If not, Tel'Avos seeks to strengthen relations with the other Ponyist nations anyway. What better way than to play some 'enemy of my enemy...'

In short, Tel can ICly get involved in a lot of ways but to avoid messing things up I'd rather you told me what I would've and would not have been involved in during the liberation. It would change the characters I sent completely.

[Vorradia]

Great to see so much interest. I'll set up an OOC thread where we can pool ideas and work out the specifics.

The Cevalan Government could really go either way. Were opposed to Theocracy but if you make the Terrorists Marxists than we could support them as the Senate is dominated by The Cevalan Laborers Party and The CCP. Well serve whatever purpose serves the overall RP best.

Stuff like this is perfect. You wont have to support either the New Vorradian democracy or fund the Vorradian terrorists fighting for the reestablishment of the clergy. You can create, fund and manipulate your own Vorradian terrorist movements to push forward your own agendas covertly. If you want to establish Marxism in Vorradia, then you can fund a communist insurgency in the country.

I also had the idea that the next democratic election in Vorradia should be upcoming, and occur near the middle of the thread, so if you want to establish a government that serves your interests, but want to do so in more legitimate ways than funding terrorism, you can back different parties or create and manipulate your own puppet party.

And, for added fun, since the Coalition has collapsed, the Pony nations no longer all have to be on the same side. You could declare yourself to the other nations to be against the Vorradian terror cells, at least in your own country, but then covertly fund it in someone else's nation if you have a score to be settled, or want them taken care of but don't want to fight a war yourself. The more devious the better.

[Crystal Spires]

*Maven giggles deviously* Ooooh this'll be good.

[Malgrave]

Considering Malgrave's involvement in the naval blockade of Vorradia and the subsequent humanitarian mission I assume some of these terrorist cells would of set themselves up in the Malgravean mainland or at least the colony in the Northern Pony Lands. If this is the case then it would give the Government a great reason for extending the countries long standing state of emergency.

[The Republic of Lanos]

Hmm. I don't know how to play Lanos in this. Seems the Big 3 could have things handled with some others joining. I also have my storyline to work on and that'll take effort that probably will take away time from this RP idea. It does sound very interesting and I wish I could join in but I have RL and my own RP project to wrangle with. Good luck.

[Kouralia]

*Maven giggles deviously* Ooooh this'll be good.

Indeed.

I cannot spend a lot of time RPing out things like invasions, but I'm perfectly capable of fighting against people in my own borders (gives a chance to flesh out Kouralia) along with small-scale Ops in other nations.

[Vorradia]

Alright, heres a proposition for an RP to resolve the conflict.

Vorradia was liberated by the Coalition of Ponynist States and it's allies shortly before the Coalition collapsed.

The Holy Imperial Territories of Vorradia have been replaced by The Republic of Reformed Vorradia. Democratic elections have been held successfully and a legitimate government has been put in place.

However, there are still many problems. After the liberation, tens of thousands of Vorradians decided they hated the freezing, war-town polluted shithole, regardless of the new government in place. Now they were finally free to leave Vorradia. And so they did en masse, emigrating to the nations that had liberated them.

Though the rebuilding of Vorradia and it's financial recovery are going well due to Vorradia's massive mineral wealth, Vorradia still has many problems.

Not all of the Vorradian people had been successfully rehabilitated, and so when, all of a sudden Vorradians had the chance to live in new countries, along with the hundreds of thousands of immigrants came hundreds of bitter radicals and church sympathisers. Vorradian terrorism is quickly spiralling out of control in nations across the globe, and all the blame is falling on the new government, which is accused of being weak and ineffectual.

Vorradia's democratic success is questionable too, as a cabal of the rehabilitated and clerical defectors are the ones in government, much of the populace still too mentally damaged to lead their own nation.

One Big Vorradian terrorist mastermind reveals himself to the world in a video, calling for a unified Vorradian terrorist movement across the liberator nations to destroy all the nations that liberated Vorradia, so that Vorradia itself can be turned back into a theocracy without Pony military intervention.

Nations that support the insurgency and want to refound Vorradia, such as the IASM, can fund and support Vorradian terrorists across the Liberator Nations, while the Liberator nations try to stamp out the insurgencies and try to hunt down their leader. Its a proxy war rather than an outright war between nations.

Meanwhile, the nations involved try to work towards establishing their own interests in Vorradia, backing the radicals, the new democracy, or trying to usurp both for their own ends. There would be benefits to backing your own movement in vorradia, as controlling Vorradia through a puppet government would allow it's vast mineral wealth to become yours. You could do whatever you wanted with it. You would have my permission.

Lots of room for story and character-building, with strained international relationships, covert operations and secrecy. It will also finally resolve the ongoing conflict in Vorradia that has been ongoing since the 1st Coalition Vorradian War.

Either the chaos will end and a stable government and Vorradian state will be formed, and the victors interests will be firmly established in Vorradia (whether it will end up the democracy it set out to be, or someones fascist puppet state, or a communist nation or whatever is open-ended)

Or, the conflict will continue unresolved, and Vorradia will be mired in never-ending chaos and terror

To make the RP interesting, I'd be perfectly happy to let pretty much anything happen to Vorradia. Theres only limited avenues I can take it down myself, much more interesting for it's fate to be decided this way, in an open-ended scenario where anything could happen.

Anyone interested?

Great to see so much interest. I'll set up an OOC thread where we can pool ideas and work out the specifics.

The Cevalan Government could really go either way. Were opposed to Theocracy but if you make the Terrorists Marxists than we could support them as the Senate is dominated by The Cevalan Laborers Party and The CCP. Well serve whatever purpose serves the overall RP best.

Stuff like this is perfect. You wont have to support either the New Vorradian democracy or fund the Vorradian terrorists fighting for the reestablishment of the clergy. You can create, fund and manipulate your own Vorradian terrorist movements to push forward your own agendas covertly. If you want to establish Marxism in Vorradia, then you can fund a communist insurgency in the country.

I also had the idea that the next democratic election in Vorradia should be upcoming, and occur near the middle of the thread, so if you want to establish a government that serves your interests, but want to do so in more legitimate ways than funding terrorism, you can back different parties or create and manipulate your own puppet party.

And, for added fun, since the Coalition has collapsed, the Pony nations no longer all have to be on the same side. You could declare yourself to the other nations to be against the Vorradian terror cells, at least in your own country, but then covertly fund it in someone else's nation if you have a score to be settled, or want them taken care of but don't want to fight a war yourself. The more devious the better.

We need to work out what the legitimate Political parties of Vorradia are. I never bothered to flesh it out. Anyone have any ideas for realistic mainstream political parties?

Since Vorradia is a newly formed nation in political turmoil unsure of the direction it will take, it seems reasonable that it would have mainstream parties covering most points in the political spectrum.

Any suggestions?

[The IASM]

Alright, heres a proposition for an RP to resolve the conflict.

Vorradia was liberated by the Coalition of Ponynist States and it's allies shortly before the Coalition collapsed.

The Holy Imperial Territories of Vorradia have been replaced by The Republic of Reformed Vorradia. Democratic elections have been held successfully and a legitimate government has been put in place.

However, there are still many problems. After the liberation, tens of thousands of Vorradians decided they hated the freezing, war-town polluted shithole, regardless of the new government in place. Now they were finally free to leave Vorradia. And so they did en masse, emigrating to the nations that had liberated them.

Though the rebuilding of Vorradia and it's financial recovery are going well due to Vorradia's massive mineral wealth, Vorradia still has many problems.

Not all of the Vorradian people had been successfully rehabilitated, and so when, all of a sudden Vorradians had the chance to live in new countries, along with the hundreds of thousands of immigrants came hundreds of bitter radicals and church sympathisers. Vorradian terrorism is quickly spiralling out of control in nations across the globe, and all the blame is falling on the new government, which is accused of being weak and ineffectual.

Vorradia's democratic success is questionable too, as a cabal of the rehabilitated and clerical defectors are the ones in government, much of the populace still too mentally damaged to lead their own nation.

One Big Vorradian terrorist mastermind reveals himself to the world in a video, calling for a unified Vorradian terrorist movement across the liberator nations to destroy all the nations that liberated Vorradia, so that Vorradia itself can be turned back into a theocracy without Pony military intervention.

Nations that support the insurgency and want to refound Vorradia, such as the IASM, can fund and support Vorradian terrorists across the Liberator Nations, while the Liberator nations try to stamp out the insurgencies and try to hunt down their leader. Its a proxy war rather than an outright war between nations.

Meanwhile, the nations involved try to work towards establishing their own interests in Vorradia, backing the radicals, the new democracy, or trying to usurp both for their own ends. There would be benefits to backing your own movement in vorradia, as controlling Vorradia through a puppet government would allow it's vast mineral wealth to become yours. You could do whatever you wanted with it. You would have my permission.

Lots of room for story and character-building, with strained international relationships, covert operations and secrecy. It will also finally resolve the ongoing conflict in Vorradia that has been ongoing since the 1st Coalition Vorradian War.

Either the chaos will end and a stable government and Vorradian state will be formed, and the victors interests will be firmly established in Vorradia (whether it will end up the democracy it set out to be, or someones fascist puppet state, or a communist nation or whatever is open-ended)

Or, the conflict will continue unresolved, and Vorradia will be mired in never-ending chaos and terror

To make the RP interesting, I'd be perfectly happy to let pretty much anything happen to Vorradia. Theres only limited avenues I can take it down myself, much more interesting for it's fate to be decided this way, in an open-ended scenario where anything could happen.

Anyone interested?

Great to see so much interest. I'll set up an OOC thread where we can pool ideas and work out the specifics.



Stuff like this is perfect. You wont have to support either the New Vorradian democracy or fund the Vorradian terrorists fighting for the reestablishment of the clergy. You can create, fund and manipulate your own Vorradian terrorist movements to push forward your own agendas covertly. If you want to establish Marxism in Vorradia, then you can fund a communist insurgency in the country.

I also had the idea that the next democratic election in Vorradia should be upcoming, and occur near the middle of the thread, so if you want to establish a government that serves your interests, but want to do so in more legitimate ways than funding terrorism, you can back different parties or create and manipulate your own puppet party.

And, for added fun, since the Coalition has collapsed, the Pony nations no longer all have to be on the same side. You could declare yourself to the other nations to be against the Vorradian terror cells, at least in your own country, but then covertly fund it in someone else's nation if you have a score to be settled, or want them taken care of but don't want to fight a war yourself. The more devious the better.

We need to work out what the legitimate Political parties of Vorradia are. I never bothered to flesh it out. Anyone have any ideas for realistic mainstream political parties?

Since Vorradia is a newly formed nation in political turmoil unsure of the direction it will take, it seems reasonable that it would have mainstream parties covering most points in the political spectrum.

Any suggestions?

Well I have five suggestions.
1) The New Secluar party could be a left-centre wing liberal party.

2) The Vorradian Right party is the main right wing party in the Vorradia but is nationalist.

3) The Ditorist Union could be the main puppet party of mine in the Vorradia.

4) The New glorious could be the nationalist fascist party and the one which is the least repected.

5) And finally the Peoples Democratic party is the far left wing communist party.

So what do you think.

[Malgrave]

The Progressive-Unity Party would be extremely interested in establishing a similar political party in Vorradia in order to greatly influence government decisions and benefit Malgravean companies which hope to operate inside the country.

http://www.nswiki.net/index.php?title=P ... nity_Party

[Urmanian]

Seems the Big 3 could have things handled with some others joining.

have you even bothered to read the posts above before making yet another "da supapowahs will handle everything so I don't have to RP" comment?

We need to work out what the legitimate Political parties of Vorradia are. I never bothered to flesh it out. Anyone have any ideas for realistic mainstream political parties?

Since Vorradia is a newly formed nation in political turmoil unsure of the direction it will take, it seems reasonable that it would have mainstream parties covering most points in the political spectrum.

Any suggestions?

With your people having literally zero experience with democracy before, this could make for some amusing parties. I would imagine Vorradian parties would be completely bananas, as their political ideas would mostly be based on a bizarre mix of whatever they could learn in refugee camps and official church propaganda. It's a very interesting topic, but I am too tired to provide coherent suggestions right now.

[Vorradia]

Seems the Big 3 could have things handled with some others joining.

have you even bothered to read the posts above before making yet another "da supapowahs will handle everything so I don't have to RP" comment?

We need to work out what the legitimate Political parties of Vorradia are. I never bothered to flesh it out. Anyone have any ideas for realistic mainstream political parties?

Since Vorradia is a newly formed nation in political turmoil unsure of the direction it will take, it seems reasonable that it would have mainstream parties covering most points in the political spectrum.

Any suggestions?

With your people having literally zero experience with democracy before, this could make for some amusing parties. I would imagine Vorradian parties would be completely bananas, as their political ideas would mostly be based on a bizarre mix of whatever they could learn in refugee camps and official church propaganda. It's a very interesting topic, but I am too tired to provide coherent suggestions right now.

Precisely my thoughts. In most countries you couldn't have Communist, Fascist and Democratic Political parties side by side in a mainstream election, but why not in Vorradia.

[Urmanian]

Precisely my thoughts. In most countries you couldn't have Communist, Fascist and Democratic Political parties side by side in a mainstream election, but why not in Vorradia.

Not even that, their views also could be warped way beyond the usual ideology compass. For example the Vorradian libertarian/neoliberal party, no doubt under the influence of (say) Herdite refugee camps and official theocentric ideology, could literally worship the Invisible Hand of the Market as a deity, forming a sort of half-party half-religious cult...