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Postby Vassel » Wed Jan 11, 2012 6:54 pm

who do you think is the worst president in united states history?stop saying if this is the wrong forum or not!i dont care!
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Postby Aravea » Wed Jan 11, 2012 6:54 pm

Wrong forum
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Postby Kaizerxisiv » Wed Jan 11, 2012 6:56 pm

Aravea wrote:Wrong forum


^This^.

Also; William Henry Harrison.
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Postby Gladia » Wed Jan 11, 2012 6:57 pm

Kaizerxisiv wrote:
Aravea wrote:Wrong forum


^This^.

Also; William Henry Harrison.


What did he do bad? He wasn't in office long enough to judge him on anything.

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Postby The warewolf order » Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:00 pm

You should have added a poll .And as for the worst with out a doubt nixon
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Postby Kaizerxisiv » Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:00 pm

Gladia wrote:
Kaizerxisiv wrote:
^This^.

Also; William Henry Harrison.


What did he do bad? He wasn't in office long enough to judge him on anything.


Exactly. He was in office and died before doing anything. He's the worst pretty much by the default of having died of pneumonia and accomplishing just that one thing. :/
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Postby Arkotania » Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:00 pm

Gladia wrote:
Kaizerxisiv wrote:
^This^.

Also; William Henry Harrison.


What did he do bad? He wasn't in office long enough to judge him on anything.

Too long a speech? fact that he died before accomplishing anything?

I don't know :p but i think that the worst president would be Nixon. He's lucky Gerald Ford saved his rear.
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Postby Gladia » Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:03 pm

Kaizerxisiv wrote:
Gladia wrote:
What did he do bad? He wasn't in office long enough to judge him on anything.


Exactly. He was in office and died before doing anything. He's the worst pretty much by the default of having died of pneumonia and accomplishing just that one thing. :/


Why do you blame somebody for having a disease entirely out of their control?


Well, one could argue that he shouldn't of given such a long speech, but 19th century knowledge and all that.

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Postby Carceno » Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:04 pm

I will most certainly NOT not say "wrong forum"!

Wrong forum.
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Postby Kaizerxisiv » Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:10 pm

Gladia wrote:
Kaizerxisiv wrote:
Exactly. He was in office and died before doing anything. He's the worst pretty much by the default of having died of pneumonia and accomplishing just that one thing. :/


Why do you blame somebody for having a disease entirely out of their control?


Well, one could argue that he shouldn't of given such a long speech, but 19th century knowledge and all that.


I'm trying to figure out why this wasn't funny to you. >.> To me it's lulzy. If I have to be serious, I'd be willing to say Nixon, too for sheer scumbaggery.
Milks Empire wrote:A thread late last year. Someone said same-sex behavior/attractions don't happen outside of humans. Bonobos debunk that crock of shit rather quickly.

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Postby Milks Empire » Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:10 pm

On the presumption that this will presumably be moved to General soonish... I'd have to say it's a tossup between Andrew Jackson and Ronald Reagan. Both of them had economic policy that would prove disastrous after their time (in Jackson's case, the Panic of 1837 and in Reagan's case, this clusterfuck).

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Postby Gladia » Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:12 pm

Kaizerxisiv wrote:
Gladia wrote:
Why do you blame somebody for having a disease entirely out of their control?


Well, one could argue that he shouldn't of given such a long speech, but 19th century knowledge and all that.


I'm trying to figure out why this wasn't funny to you. >.> To me it's lulzy. If I have to be serious, I'd be willing to say Nixon, too for sheer scumbaggery.


It didn't come as funny because I've read so much into the President's that it's not surprising.

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Postby Gladia » Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:17 pm

Milks Empire wrote:On the presumption that this will presumably be moved to General soonish... I'd have to say it's a tossup between Andrew Jackson and Ronald Reagan. Both of them had economic policy that would prove disastrous after their time (in Jackson's case, the Panic of 1837 and in Reagan's case, this clusterfuck).


I absolutely despise Andrew Jackson. John Quincy Adams definitely deserved a re-election. Just take a look at his achievements compared to Jackson:

Ambassador to the Netherlands (1794-1797)
Ambassador to Prussia (1796-1801)
Senator from Massachusetts (1803-1808)
Ambassador to Russia (1809-1814)
Ambassador to the UK (1814-1817)
Secretary of State (1817-1825)

Meanwhile, Jackson killed a bunch of soldiers in 1812. A populist demagogue with no experience managed to take the Presidency and screw us over, and got off-scot-free because his bad ideas only took effect when Van Buren got into office.

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Postby Tali Zorah Vas Normandy » Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:17 pm

Nixon was by far the worst.

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Postby Kaizerxisiv » Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:24 pm

I change my opinion. Herbert Motherfuckin' Hoover.
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Postby Vaugania » Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:26 pm

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Postby Gladia » Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:29 pm

Vaugania wrote:Obama


This comment is likely more based off of political ideology than an objective analysis of American President's.

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Postby Scriftland » Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:30 pm

Milks Empire wrote:On the presumption that this will presumably be moved to General soonish... I'd have to say it's a tossup between Andrew Jackson and Ronald Reagan. Both of them had economic policy that would prove disastrous after their time (in Jackson's case, the Panic of 1837 and in Reagan's case, this clusterfuck).


Let's look at who came after Reagan:

Bush 1
Clinton
Bush 2
Obama (At that point, we already we're screwed, so not too fair to put much blame here)

Needless to say...ouch.


Also, John Adams anyone?

Also 2, Wrong forum.
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Postby Elipida » Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:30 pm

Vaugania wrote:Obama

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Anyway i say Bush, unless that crazy Republican lady wins.
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Postby Lackadaisical2 » Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:32 pm

Tali Zorah Vas Normandy wrote:Nixon was by far the worst.


Kaizerxisiv wrote:I change my opinion. Herbert Motherfuckin' Hoover.


Vaugania wrote:Obama


Kaizerxisiv wrote:
Gladia wrote:
Why do you blame somebody for having a disease entirely out of their control?


Well, one could argue that he shouldn't of given such a long speech, but 19th century knowledge and all that.


I'm trying to figure out why this wasn't funny to you. >.> To me it's lulzy. If I have to be serious, I'd be willing to say Nixon, too for sheer scumbaggery.
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Gladia wrote:
What did he do bad? He wasn't in office long enough to judge him on anything.

Too long a speech? fact that he died before accomplishing anything?

I don't know :p but i think that the worst president would be Nixon. He's lucky Gerald Ford saved his rear.

The warewolf order wrote:You should have added a poll .And as for the worst with out a doubt nixon


You're all horribly, terribly wrong.

Nixon was a great president and a decent practitioner of realpolitik, he opened up China to the West and ended Vietnam nominally in our favor (although that would change a few years later). Was he a 'scumbag'? Maybe, but I don't really care so long as he does good for our country, Clinton was a scumbag for cheating on his wife, but that doesn't diminish him as a president.

Obama hasn't done anything particularly bad, not that I like him, but hes not the worst however.
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Postby Milks Empire » Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:33 pm

Elipida wrote:Specifically haters who hate universal healthcare that EVERY other 1st world nation have

Do not call that corporate handout universal health care.

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Postby Consaria » Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:33 pm

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Postby Lackadaisical2 » Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:35 pm

Elipida wrote:
Vaugania wrote:Obama

Haters Gonna Hate

Specifically haters who hate universal healthcare that EVERY other 1st world nation have, among other good things like trying to fix a problem a republican made

Anyway i say Bush, unless that crazy Republican lady wins.

To describe Obamacare as anything alike to universal healthcare is ridiculous.

Consaria wrote:Woodrow "Suspend Civil Liberties" Wilson. I'm afraid I don't know much about pre-20th Century presidents, so this is my opinion 1900 on.

Why not FDR then? He had no problem interning (to use the more euphemistic term than 'concentration camps') the Japanese in America.
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Postby Elipida » Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:36 pm

Milks Empire wrote:
Elipida wrote:Specifically haters who hate universal healthcare that EVERY other 1st world nation have

Do not call that corporate handout universal health care.


If every average and poor american can get free medical care, i call it universal health care
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Postby Gladia » Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:37 pm

Elipida wrote:
Vaugania wrote:Obama

Haters Gonna Hate

Specifically haters who hate universal healthcare that EVERY other 1st world nation have, among other good things like trying to fix a problem a republican made

Anyway i say Bush, unless that crazy Republican lady wins.


I didn't know there were any females running for the Republican nomination.

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