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COPS Constitutional Unveiling (IC main thread, COPS only)

Postby Enatai » Fri Dec 16, 2011 1:15 pm

Every head-of-state and relevant delegate of every member of the Coalition of Ponyist States was delivered an extremely high-priority letter, hand-written by King Alexander himself on high-quality Alexandrian House form paper. In his best possible handwriting (a few of the unlucky ones had a few starting words in poorly-done calligraphy) he conveyed the following:

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Members of the Coalition of Ponyist States,

For too long we have ruled and decided based on whims with only minute-taking and sporadic stenographers to solidify who we are and what we do. We can no longer go on as we have done, and besides which, as proud Ponyists, we deserve better! In a joint Enatai-Greater Pony Herd effort, we have produced a constitution with the intent of strengthening and solidifying the Ponyist way of life and governance from here on out. Included with this letter should be a copy of the constitution itself, a facsimile of the original.

To celebrate this moment in Ponyist history, I invite all of you to a Constitutional Unveiling Gala at my private palace on Shota Island. Every accomodation will be made for you and your staff, but we ask that you contact us regarding your staff and/or potential guests for us to look over. Please RSVP soon!

Yours in the Regal Sisters,
King Alexander


(Please sign up for the party RP on the OOC thread)
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Postby Enatai » Fri Dec 16, 2011 1:17 pm

The Constitution of The Coalition of Ponyist States


SECTION 0 - PREAMBLE
The purpose of this coalition and all of its actions are and have always been to ensure the survival of ponies and bronies, and the ideals of Ponyism as represented by the elements of harmony and the teachings of the Regal Sisters and any of their saints such as the Mane Six. We exist to strengthen states who follow these ideals and to support nations who wish to follow them, and, if we can, foster these ideas internationally. Ideally as peacefully as possible, but should Ponyism require defense, then nations will look to us first and foremost. We are Ponyism's keepers above all others. We have always been its keepers and we shall continue to do so until our last dying gasps.

SECTION 1 - LEGISLATIVE POWERS
All final legislative powers shall ultimately lie with the King or Queen of the Enataian Empire, the Alpha of the Greater Pony Herd, and Princess Luna. Should any of them give up power, it shall rest with the others to retain final say on any coalition decisions should it be necessary.

These powers shall not infringe on the right of member states to be self-governing unless such self-governance involves Anti-Ponyist legislation. If a member state’s legislation involves little to no Ponyism at all, they may be subject to an internal review and potentially expelled from the Coalition.

Member states may vote on decisions to make their positions known, so as to help govern the coalition in as harmonious a way as possible. Member states may also bring up suggestions for improving the coalition and these suggestions may be put to a vote. These may be vetoed at any time by any of the three coalition leaders listed above.

SECTION 2 - PONYISM
Ponyism may be split into two different but similar categories, those being Spiritual Ponyism and Secular Ponyism. Spiritual Ponyism is outright worship of the Regal Sisters, while Secular Ponyism is a political stance based on secular adherence to the principles of the two Regal Sisters, Princess Celestia and Princess Luna, rulers of the Magical Land of Equestria. These principles are divided into two groups, with their definitions and political implications listed here.

- Friendship is its own category, and appears to be the basis of some or all magic. Politically, adhering to the principle of friendship involves many things which also come up in the Elements of Harmony, but can be taken to generally involve being a good ally in as many ways as possible.

- The Elements of Harmony are more specific, involving:
- Honesty: Member states should be honest with their allies, and deceit or deception should not be used against fellow Coalition members. Coalition members should also place their trust in one another and treat one another as honest unless there is strong evidence to the contrary.
- Kindness: Member states are expressly forbidden from attacking fellow coalition members, and all threats will be taken seriously. Member states should act with goodwill towards one another, even if those other member states do not necessarily govern themselves as the other would want.
- Laughter: Joviality is a virtue. Inter-coalition events such as parties & galas shall be taken as a sign of following this element, and while not required, attendance is sure to deepen diplomatic ties and strengthen the coalition as a whole. Additionally, in the face of a crisis, it is important to stay positive and to share this hope with others.
- Generosity: Member states are urged to be generous to other Ponyist nations in whatever form may be appropriate. Granting economic precedent and fostering international trade with fellow member states is highly encouraged.
- Loyalty: Member states should be loyal to their fellow Ponyist states. An attack against one nation is an attack against us all and should be treated as such.
- Magic: The Element of Magic not only endorses the use of magic available to unicorn ponies and other magical species but also promotes all ways of achieving spiritual and intellectual perfection. Member states are urged to allow if not promote the use of magic as a time-honored traditional Ponyist art.

At all times a true Ponyist state will strive for all of these, in actions on every scale, both national an international, within and without its own borders, as a positive example and a political role model for those poor nations which may be steeped in discord and chaos. We, the keepers of Ponyism, shall strive at all times to work together in harmony to foster the magic of friendship, at home and abroad.

SECTION 3 - Laws and Regulations
- No member state may declare war on any other member state unless it is agreed that military action is required, such as in the case of a coup d'état.
- All member states must at all times treat sapient species as equals. Member states may at no time implement any kind of anti-ponyist legislation without risking removal from the Coalition of Ponyist states.

SECTION 4 - Attaining Membership & Observer Status
- Member states must provide enough evidence of their nation’s ponyism to convince one of the three ruling powers that they are worthy of becoming members. Any and all past actions for or against ponies can and will be taken into account. The following criteria are as follows:
1) A member nation must have a population of sapient ponies, unicorns, and pegasi which is significant enough to mark the nation as an established home for ponykind.
2) A member nation must have a significant population of Ponyists within it, and must have a favorable view of Ponyism.
3) A member nation must treat as equals all ponies and sentient beings.
4) A member nation must have read and agreed to this constitution.

- Observers must be at least neutral towards ponies. Any actions against ponies or bronies, or against the practice of ponyism itself will be taken as an act of ill will towards the coalition and observers may be removed for infractions against the coalition.
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Postby Earth Sphere Coalition » Fri Dec 16, 2011 9:10 pm

As of right now, I will not sign this constitution and if it must be signed then consider this my resignation from the CoPS. 
This is a breach of my nations autonomy and gives too much power to both the Princess and the two founders of CoPS.
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Postby Crystal Spires » Sat Dec 17, 2011 1:48 am

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"Are you sure, your Excellency?" A small voice crooned with gentle hesitation from a gentle earth pony in a robe and hooded cloak as she carried the muffins to the altar and set it next to green apples.

"I'm sure Grand Cleric Buttersnap. I believe that the Coalition of Ponyist states has begun to lose what is in the best interests for the whole of Ponykind and how strange it is that it has declined into a dueling bunch of powermongers. This is very disturbing to me, and I desire to speak with King Alexander of Enatai, and the Alpha Mare Twilight Sparkle, and of course, the Maiden of Night, Princess Luna. But do not worry Grand Cleric, the Beastling States will ever be a protector, a defender, and a haven for all ponykind. We of the Beastling States are a sanctuary, and we will not falter on our charge to protect all ponies." The warm voice spoke comfortingly to the Grand Cleric as he calmly sat down with her with the silence in the temple bringing peace to both of their weary hearts.

"Maven, what is it that the Constitution provides that you find is a danger to the Beastling States?" Buttersnap asked as she looked at the resting Maven with concerned eyes.

    "These powers shall not infringe on the right of member states to be self-governing unless such self-governance involves Anti-Ponyist legislation, or if a member state’s legislation involves little to no Ponyism at all."

"This bears acknowledgment that it allows our sovereignty to be superseded by the Greater Pony Herd, the Principality of Luna, and The Kingdom of Enatai because Ponyism is not a mandated state religion. What else could they mean when they say 'if a member state’s legislation involves little to no Ponyism at all.' that the Greater Pony Herd, Principality of Luna, and Enatai can overcome Spirean sovereignty? And do what? Force and compel Ponyism as a state religion? Demand that we renounce Forntianism in favor of theocratic control by Ponyists? Grand Cleric, even if I adopt the secular practice of Ponyism, it does not represent the majority of believers in our nation. You know this, and I am no tyrant that I would compel my people into adopting any foreign religious belief. I respect Ponyists Grand Cleric, but... "

"You're a Forntian, lad. You don't need to convince me. You've come here though, strangely enough... Quine done irritating you then?" Buttersnap said with a laugh.

"Well.... yeah Quine is brilliant... no scholar of Forntianism is brighter than he is, but it's like he doesn't connect with the actual practice most of the time which is frustrating." Maven said with a laugh.

"You're a better Forntian than he is you know. If you ever quit your job, should that ever happen, you might as well do your Knight Templar duties full-time." Grand Cleric Buttersnap teased him, but she was partially right.

"Nonsense." Maven said "Though this is very concerning. It's a blow for ponies everywhere, because I know more than one of the members will be up in arms about this Charter. I will try my best to do what is right for the protection of pony kind."

"Oh, you! Far be it from me to stop the Justice obsessed Forntian. Get out, shoo! I've got other people to be kind to!" The Grand Cleric said with a laugh as Maven smiled and waved as he passed he took a letter he was afraid of sending, and took the courage to send it.


To: the Nation of Enatai Empire, Greater Ponyist Herd, and The Principality of Princess Luna,

From:The Beastling States of Crystal Spires


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Honored Friends and Respected Leaders,

We of Crystal Spires are not sure if your Constitution is made in the best interests of pony kind. It is said in the Preamble that it is our purpose to be protectors and the sworn vanguard to protect ponies and I do not deny the proposals to allow the flourishing of Pony Culture and applying the elements of harmony are undoubtedly appealing, but there are many concerns that have arisen in the Constitution which make me reluctant to adopt it. First of all there is the mandate of Ponyism as a state religion, then there is the blatant impossibility of presenting a manner for Conflict resolution when internal conflict arises (and it will) and we have already discussed many a times how we in the Coalition feel that our voices in the coalition as members are meaningless, but to mandate it is folly. We ask that you consider a redraft of the constitution but then again, we also have asked if this could actually be a convention where members' voices as part of the coalition could be heard. This idea was rejected as well because you viewed it as an affront to your power, so maybe this appeal is just as pointless as the words and appeals I have stated before. I'm merely saddened that desire for power and political cloying has outweighed the safety and well-being of pony kind. One member has already stated their dissatisfaction with the Constitution, and so too will I. I will not quit unless I am forced out however.

We shall see,

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Postby Imeriata » Sat Dec 17, 2011 8:15 am

The absolute royal federation, Imeriata proper, Imerbürg, the royal court

The young man that stood before the rather angry outraged faces of the higher federal noblemen and houses looked back with a rather annoyed face as his leg hurt like if it was on fire because of the long way to the court room, of course that he had to stand still in respect for his social superiors did not help matters any more, though as his leg prevented him to be a good cavalry officer so had he been put under his father's command in the small organisation that dealt with the CoPS and as his father was away so was it up to him to bring the rather insulting and outright silly constitution to the court that now put his own thoughts rather well into words.

"'All member states must at all times treat sapient species as equals' that is just hardly possible nor in their own interests!" a man in a rather fashionable tunic cried as he quoted part of the paper and looked up at the rest of his colleges
"well we cannot expect inferior species to act good and proper but this is just wrong on so many levels!" another man pointed out and the whole room were filled with nodding as most people nodded in agreement.

"And then are there the fact that they are actively suggesting that we should go against divine will and allow inferior species to use magic at all! I say that we should do the opposite and give us the power to force inferior species to not use what was not meant for them!" an older man that wore a fine red robe decorated with flames and a rose burning on his chest which pointed him out as one of the chronology's representatives in the court which were meet with nodding from more as a man in a black robe with those crosses that Christians used rose up.
"We should even go further and not only issue an outlawing of magic from inferior species but also for humans as well!" the priest cried which made both the men in the white robes that suggested that they were Nickism priests and the few Imams that also were present to rise up crying their support just as the red robed men and quite a few noblemen, and even a chap wearing a pointy hat and a robe with stars on it, to rise up and roar in protest over such nonsense.

"IN THE NAME OF HIS ROYAL HIGHNESS STOP THIS DEBATE! THIS IS NOT THE TIME OR PLACE FOR A RELIGIOUS DEBATE!" the voice of the high king's speaker that stood next to the throne that rose up high above the other noblemen's chairs and in the silence that could follow as both sides sat down and looked angrily at one another so could one hear a quiet "we are most grateful!" from the high king to the man besides him before the man that ruled the entire federation looked over the room to see if anyone would dare to challenge his order.

"I do thank my royal highness for my royal highness quick intervention!" a voice made everyone turn towards a older gentleman dressed in the purple and gold of the royal merchant guild.
"There are other economical problems that also needs to be addressed my royal highness as this list would also seem to want us to not only allow but also support foreign import into the absolute royal federation, there is also the matter that at least one of the three leaders of the coalition is strongly against the slave trade and the two other ones are we not entirely sure that we can trust to look after our interests my royal highness!" the man continued and quite a few noblemen nodded in agreement with that statement.

"Very well then, on our decree so are the royal foreign relation advisory to write a official letter of protest to ensure that this constitution will not pass in it's current shape!" the high king said after he had listened to quite a few arguments against it as all members of court rose up to applaud his righteous wisdom and as usual did he wonder how many of them that actually agreed with him and how many that just did it because he was their king but as usual did he push thoughts like those out of his mind as he would never be able to figure it out as most federal noblemen was rather good actors, it was after all rather important in their line of work.


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Official communique from the absolute royal federation of Imeriata and her realms

From: Lord Edward auf stjärnhelm speaker of the Royal Foreign relation advisory.
to: King Alexander
Regarding: Constitution
Encrypted: No!



My dear sir I must inform you that the absolute royal federation find this new constitution written by yourself horrible outrageous and not to mention hypocritical as it was not supposed to interfere on national sovereignty!

As a result would we need to inform you that we would want several parts re-written and especially the element of harmony part erased entirely as it would not only go against the good and proper trade of the free market but also force each nation to open their market to all other.

Another part that we found entirely outrageous was the fact that you would also have the atrocity to force members to change their laws regarding social structure of every nation and territory part of this coalition which would be unacceptable in our case as our good and proper rule is the most righteous system that light have touched in all planes of the world tree!

We would also like to inform you that we intend to be present at this meeting to ensure that a more good and proper constitution, if one is even needed, would be written and adopted instead of this horrid outrage!



Signed and approved by: His royal Highness Oskar rex stjänkhrone II by the grace of the gods high king of the absolute royal federation and divinely appointed ruler and unifier of the Scandinavian race, the descendant of the first Imerian high kings especially and foremost Emanuel the first, Son of Primus the XIIIth, the son of Emanuel the VIIth, the son of Gustav the IInd, the son of Anders the IIId, the son of Emanuel the VI, the carrier of the royal sword first carried by the demigod Belrion son of Bel, vanquisher of evil, the protector of the federal crown jewels and patriarch of the noble house auf stjänkhrone, carrier of better and more important titles than the space Russians as well as the protector of the free city states of al-Jzr al-Khḑrā as well as defender of Hungary and her regions and the realms as king of Imeriata, Vedian, Erathia, Northern Taranakan and Andervel, but also the righteous and lawful king of New felandia and the duke of Sydvinland, Northern Venezue and Sthalinge, The Shah of the crown states of al-Jzr al-Khḑrā and the Padishah of all of al-Jzr al-Khḑrā, The lord regent of the colony of Nova Imeriata, Imerian Africa, Angland, the two peninsulas of Tvaude and of Somalmark, the baron of Gustavsland and Sjöland, the Emir of Sandland and Jarl of the free city of Rickasborg, and Salywa and further more the ruler of the federal terretories of Vastermark and the northern iceplains but as well the Enlightened Emperor of Nicksyllvania and as such the King of Leazus, Emperor of Helman, Grand Prince of Zeth, Emperor of Japan, Emperor of Jungria, Duke and king of Hornet-Kereburos, Despot of the Great North, Grand Duke of the Western Badlands, Master of the Southern Marshes, and the king of Dragkon and the wielder of the Holy Swords, the Demon Sword Kaos, the Holy Sword Nikkou, and the Greatsword of the Empire, Nickiller, Great Protector of the Helman Wall and Majino Line, also by the right of his birth high marshal of the royal guard and the Imperial commander of the Imperial nicksyllvanian army, the grand commander of the federal order of the golden sword and the Nicksyllvanian order, the knight commander of the order of the golden cross and the order of Africa, the lord commander of the colonial order, the high commander of the federal order of the silver rose and the order of Scandera, the Taranakan order and the Order of Vinland may his reign last until the end of time and may the empire and federation he rules stand even through the flames of the endtimes to protect all of his royal highness subjects
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Postby Hippostania » Sat Dec 17, 2011 8:52 am

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From: Government of the Pony Republic of Hippostania
To: To all parties involved




On behalf of the people of the Pony Republic of Hippostania, we fully agree upon this charter and have decided to sign it.



Signed by
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Blue October, High Chancellor of the Pony Republic of Hippostania

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Lyra, Parliamentary Chancellor of the Pony Republic of Hippostania

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Bon Bon, Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Pony Republic of Hippostania
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Postby Lubyak » Sat Dec 17, 2011 8:54 am

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Official Communique from the Dominion of the Lubyak
Adressed to King Alexander of the Kingdom of Enatai
Encrypted: LIGHT



The Dominion has taken the time required to read, and observe the proposed constituion of the Coalition of Ponyist States, and we regret to inform you that we find ourselves un-willing to sign as a member at this time.

The primary reason we refuse to sign is the feeling that this Constitution turns the Coalition into a fiefdom, with Enatai, the Greater Pony Herd, and Princess Luna at the top. Indeed, Section 1 of the Constitution seems to make them superior to every other state within the Coalition!

These powers shall not infringe on the right of member states to be self-governing unless such self-governance involves Anti-Ponyist legislation, or if a member state’s legislation involves little to no Ponyism at all.


This section in particular attempts to turn all Coalition states into theocracies, with their sovereignity subservient on their governments acting as though Ponyism is their primary ideology!

The Dominion will not see its sovereinity stripped in the name of spreading a religion. We smile warmly on the Coalition of Ponyist States, but unless this Constitution is ammended to solve both the above stated issue, along with other unfair limitations and restrictions on the ability of a member state to govern and act as they choose in the international sphere, we will see the sad day in which the Dominion and the Colaition will have to go their seperate ways.



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Postby Lykosia » Sat Dec 17, 2011 9:30 am

(OOC: Snipped, because I accidentally edited this one and replaced it with my second communique, which could be found below)
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Postby Behntasha » Sat Dec 17, 2011 10:39 am

Bentus sat at the end of a table with his ministers while the charter was read aloud. With every sentence the mood seemed to grow more and more tense in the room. When Bentus finished reading the charter, he placed it down on the table with shaky hands, intertwined his fingers and paused for a moment, seemingly praying. He finally shoot up from his seat and slammed his hand against the table.

"IS ENATAI COMPLETELY DAFT??? I have NO intention of signing this charter! Giving GPH de jure control? Seemingly endorsing only religious ponyism? Most egregiously, violating our national sovereignty should it deem our laws are not ponyist ENOUGH?" Bentus paced back and forth. "I was lukewarm about this from the beginning. I got a lot of criticism for joining. I hoped things would improve... Oh I knew GPH had control before; but legalizing it? Violation of sovereignty? I never thought that CoPS would turn this way!" Bentus calmed down and shook his head, soon to be writing his notice:

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Official Communique from Bentus Arcadius
The Social Democratic Union of Behntasha


To: King Alexander of Enatai
CC: The Coalition of Ponyist States
Subject: Constitution

King Alexander,

It is with deep regret that the nation of Behntasha cannot sign the constitution as it is currently written. We feel that in its current state there are strong violations of our national sovereignty in the following ways:

  • Allowing for intervention in national affairs should "a member state’s legislation involves little to no Ponyism at all"
  • Not providing for, or at best not stating support of, secular ponyism
  • Allowing for control of the coalition by a select few governments. While we're not troubled by the concept, we're concerned by the inactivity of Enatai and wish to see a new list of nations in this elite circle.

We would like to further inquire about the role of observers, but for the time being if this constitution remains in effect, we will not sign it. We will reconsider should these issues be addressed.

Signed,
Bentus Arcadius
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Postby Enatai » Sat Dec 17, 2011 6:18 pm

To: All Whom It May Concern
From: The Alexandrian House of Enatai
Subject: Autonomy Concerns

It has come to our attention that a particular section of the constitution seemed to suggest that the coalition may take action against a nation if it contains little or no evidence of Ponyism. It has been slightly tweaked so as to stay true to the original meaning, which is to ensure that member states of the Coalition of Ponyist States remains an organization by and for legitimately Ponyist states, rather than those who may seek to gain the benefits of membership (increased trade, military defense, etc) without truly following the ideals of Ponyism in either its secular or spiritual forms.

Clearly this constitution is controversial and a potential game-changer for members of the coalition. This is exactly the reason it needs to exist. We do not seek to upend the coalition which we helped to create, but rather we wish to strengthen it and provide it with a solid core with which we may continue to defend and promote our values of friendship and harmony. Should member nations find that their national values run counter to those of the coalition, they should feel entirely free to make themselves known, but should perhaps consider what the concepts of Ponyism mean for their own nations.

Furthermore we are confused at the amount of surprise we are seeing regarding legislative powers. Was there ever a time when Enatai or the Greater Pony Herd did not as cofounders rule this coalition? Have we done such a poor job at guiding the coalition? Have all your efforts at helping the coalition move forwards truly come to nothing in your eyes? Try to understand that we reserve the power of veto and potential executive rule only for when we need it, if we were powermongering tyrants then what good would that do Ponyism? We aim only to serve the Regal Sisters and advance the causes of friendship and harmony, not to rule with iron fists.

We in Enatai urge you as leaders to attend the unveiling gala on Shota Island. Perhaps there, things may be made more clear. This constitution was and still is fully intended to be helpful and clarifying, not shocking or unpleasant. Please give it another read, and perhaps reflect on whether or not the Coalition of Ponyist States has so far been unbearable for you, because I promise you that we are only clarifying those rules and concepts which were already the original intention of the coalition when it was first conceived and implemented.

Signed,
King Alexander, on behalf of the Alexandrian House and all of the Empire of Enatai

PS What is all this about a lack of support for secular Ponyism? The wording is "worship or adherence to the principles of," is that too murky?
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Postby YellowApple » Sat Dec 17, 2011 6:32 pm

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King Alexander,

After careful review of the text of the proposed Constitution of the Coalition of Ponyist States, the Nomadic Peoples of YellowApple cannot ratify it in its current form. We specifically have the following issues that would need to be addressed before we can pledge our support:

  • There is no support for Secular Ponyism in the current Constitution, despite a large majority of the current members of the Coalition of Ponyist States, including the Nomadic Peoples of YellowApple, adopting it as an ideology and basis for government and social policy.
  • The definition of Ponyism as stated in the current Constitution is that of Spiritual Ponyism, which thus implies that states which do not specifically endorse and/or require the worship of the Regal Sisters of Equestria are not true Ponyist states; this is particularly problematic for a number of nations, including the Nomadic Peoples of YellowApple, which are committed to maintaining spiritual neutrality to promote religious equality, and signing this Constitution would thus compromise YellowApplan spiritual neutrality in political and social deliberations, in addition to violating the rights of the followers of other religious faiths throughout YellowApple.
  • There is no mention of the policies set forth in either the Economic or Defense Summits in the current Constitution, and thus implementation of the Constitution would result in an invalidation of the policies set forth in the Economic and Defense Summits, including the adoption of the Interbit as an official currency and the formation of the Security Council of the Coalition of Ponyist States.
  • The current Constitution specifically praises those of the subspecies Equus sapiens rinocerotis, also known as "unicorns", and other "magical" species, while both providing a clear definition of what "magic" is and specifically endorsing racial superiority of Equus sapiens rinocerotis and other "magical" species over "non-magical" species; we will not support any legislation which calls for state-endorsed discrimination against races or species not deemed "magical".

If these concerns are not addressed and rectified, the Nomadic Peoples of YellowApple will reject adherence to this Constitution until said issues are indeed addressed and rectified.

We look forward to peace and prosperity between our nations.

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Postby Salvarity » Sat Dec 17, 2011 6:35 pm

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"Sir this document has been sent by King Alexander of Enatai" An aide said to Lance Nagala. "I've read it and the charter Enatain leaders made" Nagala Responded " Leave now before i go crazy".



King Alexander of Enatai,


I like your concept but the way your putting it into position is bad. Giving to much power to the so called main nations and acting like Lyra here. I've made some points and Maven gonna get pissed with these but here it is
SECTION 0 - PREAMBLE
The purpose of this coalition and all of its actions are and have always been to ensure the survival of ponies and bronies, and the ideals of Ponyism as represented by the elements of harmony and the teachings of the Regal Sisters and any of their saints such as the Mane Six. Secular Ponyism????. We exist to strengthen states who follow these ideals and to support nations who wish to follow them, and, if we can, foster these ideas internationally. Ideally as peacefully as possible psst, but should Ponyism require defense, then nations will look to us first and foremost. We are Ponyism's keepers above all others. We have always been its keepers and we shall continue to do so until our last dying gasps.

SECTION 1 - LEGISLATIVE POWERS
All final legislative powers shall ultimately lie with the King or Queen of the Enataian Empire, the Alpha of the Greater Ponyist Herd No just no on Urmanian., and Princess Luna. Should any of them give up power, it shall rest with the others to retain final say on any coalition decisions should it be necessary.

These powers shall not infringe on the right of member states to be self-governing unless such self-governance involves Anti-Ponyist legislation. If a member state’s legislation involves little to no Ponyism at all, they may be subject to an internal review and potentially expelled from the Coalition.Secular Ponyism????? Is Salvarity getting kicked out of coalition now. All we have is Secular Ponyism

Member states may vote on decisions to make their positions known, so as to help govern the coalition in as harmonious a way as possible. Member states may also bring up suggestions for improving the coalition and these suggestions may be put to a vote. These may be vetoed at any time by any of the three coalition leaders listed above that'll work out real nice with Urmanian there.

SECTION 2 - PONYISM
Ponyism is defined as the worship or adherence to the principles of the two Regal Sisters, Princess Celestia and Princess Luna, rulers of the Magical Land of Equestria. These principles are divided into two groups, with their definitions and political implications listed here.

- Friendship is its own category, and appears to be the basis of some or all magic. Politically, adhering to the principle of friendship involves many things which also come up in the Elements of Harmony, but can be taken to generally involve being a good ally in as many ways as possible.

- The Elements of Harmony are more specific, involving:
- Honesty: Member states should be honest with their allies, and deceit or deception should not be used against fellow Coalition members. Coalition members should also place their trust in one another and treat one another as honest unless there is strong evidence to the contrary.
- Kindness: Member states are expressly forbidden from attacking fellow coalition members, and all threats will be taken seriously. Member states should act with goodwill towards one another, even if those other member states do not necessarily govern themselves as the other would want. Your making me be nice to Lyra. Are you Insane
- Laughter: Joviality is a virtue. Inter-coalition events such as parties & galas shall be taken as a sign of following this element, and while not required, attendance is sure to deepen diplomatic ties and strengthen the coalition as a whole. Additionally, in the face of a crisis, it is important to stay positive and to share this hope with others.
- Generosity: Member states are urged to be generous to other Ponyist nations why only ponyist. in whatever form may be appropriate. Granting economic precedent and fostering international trade with fellow member states is highly encouraged.
- Loyalty: Member states should be loyal to their fellow Ponyist states. An attack against one nation is an attack against us all and should be treated as such.
- Magic: The Element of Magic not only endorses the use of magic available to unicorn ponies and other magical species but also promotes all ways of achieving spiritual and intellectual perfection. Member states are urged to allow if not promote the use of magic as a time-honored traditional Ponyist art.

At all times a true Ponyist state will strive for all of these, in actions on every scale, both national an international, within and without its own borders, as a positive example and a political role model for those poor nations which may be steeped in discord and chaos. We, the keepers of Ponyism, shall strive at all times to work together in harmony to foster the magic of friendship, at home and abroad.

SECTION 3 - Laws and Regulations
-No member state may declare war on any other member state unless it is agreed that military action is required, such as in the case of a coup d'état. Really want to give Hippostania and GPH the ability to be crazy and we can't do anything. Really
- All member states must at all times treat sapient species as equals. Member states may at no time implement any kind of anti-ponyist legislation without risking removal from the Coalition of Ponyist states.

SECTION 4 - Attaining Membership & Observer Status
- Member states must provide enough evidence of their nation’s ponyism to convince one of the three ruling powers that they are worthy of becoming members. Any and all past actions for or against ponies can and will be taken into account. The following criteria are as follows:
1) A member nation must have a population of sapient ponies, unicorns, and pegasi which is significant enough to mark the nation as an established home for ponykind.
2) A member nation must have a significant population of Ponyists within it, and must have a favorable view of Ponyism.
3) A member nation must treat as equals all ponies and sentient beings.

- Observers must be at least neutral towards ponies. Any actions against ponies or bronies, or against the practice of ponyism itself will be taken as an act of ill will towards the coalition and observers may be removed for infractions against the coalition.


I hope you take this into Consideration and this isn't the voice of Salvarity. it is my voice
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Postby Enatai » Sat Dec 17, 2011 6:54 pm

Dear Prime Minister Nagala,

Allow me to make clear a few of your points of concern.
- Secular Ponyism is alright. I have slightly changed the constitution's wording, again to reflect that, since many seem to have had trouble understanding that the emphasis was on "worship OR adherence." Your lack of spirituality when it comes to Ponyism is acceptable by the standards of this coalition.
- The Greater Pony Herd has always shared executive power with Enatai as the coalition's cofounding member state. We may not always see eye to eye on every issue, we certainly aren't total clones, but I have seen time and time again the Greater Pony Herd's dedication to the Regal Sisters and Ponyism, and I am not prepared to throw the Greater Pony Herd under the rug, especially because I hold no illusions that I could not possibly be able to run the coalition entirely by myself, it is a joint effort.
- Generosity's definition is in the sense of inter-coalition action. I believe that all member states are likely to be in possession of dictionary definitions for these Ponyist values, and if their lack of generosity is so severe internationally as to be problematic, then I am sure it would be brought up.
- Kindness is a serious Ponyist virtue. Are you really asking if we will turn a blind eye towards you being nasty towards Lyra? The answer is no.

And yes, yes I am absolutely saying that I am giving Hippostania and GPH (as well as every other member nation in the coalition) the right to not be bombed by their allies unless their allies are all positive it's the right thing do to. Please deal with it.

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Postby Salvarity » Sat Dec 17, 2011 7:27 pm

Enatai wrote:Dear Prime Minister Nagala,

Allow me to make clear a few of your points of concern.
- Secular Ponyism is alright. I have slightly changed the constitution's wording, again to reflect that, since many seem to have had trouble understanding that the emphasis was on "worship OR adherence." Your lack of spirituality when it comes to Ponyism is acceptable by the standards of this coalition.
- The Greater Pony Herd has always shared executive power with Enatai as the coalition's cofounding member state. We may not always see eye to eye on every issue, we certainly aren't total clones, but I have seen time and time again the Greater Pony Herd's dedication to the Regal Sisters and Ponyism, and I am not prepared to throw the Greater Pony Herd under the rug, especially because I hold no illusions that I could not possibly be able to run the coalition entirely by myself, it is a joint effort.
- Generosity's definition is in the sense of inter-coalition action. I believe that all member states are likely to be in possession of dictionary definitions for these Ponyist values, and if their lack of generosity is so severe internationally as to be problematic, then I am sure it would be brought up.
- Kindness is a serious Ponyist virtue. Are you really asking if we will turn a blind eye towards you being nasty towards Lyra? The answer is no.

And yes, yes I am absolutely saying that I am giving Hippostania and GPH (as well as every other member nation in the coalition) the right to not be bombed by their allies unless their allies are all positive it's the right thing do to. Please deal with it.

Sincerely,
King Alexander




Addressing King Alexander of Enatai,

I thank you for replying to my message so fast.Everything i can agree with you and thank you for clarification. I wish to note i am not asking the coalition turning a blind eye for us being nasty to Lyra. I am more for us being able to be Nasty back to Lyra without her allies protecting her. I'm sure you are aware the CoPS is highly factionalist and i doubt these factions are going away soon.

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Postby Shrillland » Sat Dec 17, 2011 8:07 pm

The SPF wishes to voice a few questions and concerns about the proposed constitution.

1. Will there be a Judiciary included in the Constitution along the lines of a Ponyist World Court which all CoPS Members can be held to account?

2. Why must supreme executive and legislative power be placed in the hands of a few privileged nations without anything to place them in account if they were to change and make anti-ponyist decisions? Shouldn't there be provisions to keep them in check, or create a post of Coalition President or Secretary General, chosen from among the members?

3. Shouldn't the Coalition admission process include a requirement for a nation to sign and ratify the Constitution before admission?

4. How will this Constitution be promulgated?

We hope you will answer these questions.

Yours faithfully,
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"By the oversight of our Lord Fornt, I hearby declare this Legislative session open. We are here to discuss the new Charter for the Coalition of Ponyist States. Let it be reminded that we, who know of the dangers of Corruption more than anyone else, know that the punishment for corruption and betrayal of the people is death. Thus is it our solemn vow as Councilmen to act in what is the best for the Good and Welfare of All people." Maven said clearly in a solemn voice.

"The purity of heart, mind, and spirit is represented by words, thoughts, and actions. Councilmen! Every sentient being is responsible for their own words, thoughts, and actions and are obligated by law not to willingly commit harm to another sentient being with greed, hatred, or ignorance as a motivation." Merris recited the religious texts shyly with excitement as she looked at Glimmering Dew who was also very excited by the proposal.

"And so we promise with our full hearts that we have not acted in hatred, greed, and that we are aware of every consequence of our actions." Maven recited as he put his hand over his heart and bowed.

"Be seated," Justine said with a sincere nod. "We shall review the evidence regarding the signing of the Constitution proposed by King Alexander, and we shall make an informed decision on how to further act."

"A Word, High Council." Spoke a dark purple unicorn wearing dark rimmed glasses who shyly spoke over the Council murmuring

"The High Council Addresses the Representative of Starfold, Merris Quine."

"Because this adoption of Ponyism is secular it shall please the council to know that this will not compel any Forntians to adopt Spiritual Ponyism, and in return we will have the comfort and Solidarity with our friends and allies in the Coalition."

"A word, High Council." said a tall regal Owl beastling.

"The High Council Addresses the Minister of Religious Representation, Quine Madern."

"This is an affront to all Forntian Values! To adopt a foreign religious worldview! 'Tis disgusting and gag inducing! We spit at the suggestion that we proud Forntians must adopt Ponyist Values!"

"A word, High Council."

"The High Council Addresses the Representative from Caltris, Maven Auryn."

"I would like to remind the Body of the High Council of the Elements of Harmony. The Element of Loyalty is already a Forntian value of Apotheosis as a strength of Justice and is core to our beliefs and practice. The Element of Generosity is core to our ideals of Communism and giving of one's self to serve others, it is a Core Spirean Value and a Forntian belief. The Element of Honesty is the Forntian value of Apotheosis as a strength of Courage with the value of integrity which is expected of every Forntian believer. The Element of Kindness is a value of Apotheosis as a strength of purity and it a pure Forntian belief that must never be neglected. Then there is the Element of Laughter which is a value of Apotheosis, a strength of transcendence, and the key is humor. This is a core Forntian value to practice, and then finally, The Element of Magic. Magic is more than just the art of Transforming energy. It is the whole of Apotheosis itself. The willingness to change one's self inside and out and the willingness to Hope and expect the best in the future and work to achieve it to the point where Miracles can happen. This is Magic in its core."

The High Council was silent, and with a moment Glimmering Dew clapped her hoofs together and was followed by Merris and then followed by much of the High Council except of course for an Irritated Quine Madern.

"OH BY THE GOD'S BLOOD. You are all out of your minds! I'm tired of having to deal with you foolish pie eyed secularists. I'm done! I'm sick of this! I QUIT!" Quine said as he stormed out.

The silence came back as they all looked at each other.

"Well it looks like we need a new religious representative." Jurgen said with a raucous laugh as Justine smacked him upside the head.

"A Word, High Council." A young earth pony mare said as her words echoed over the High Council chambers.

"The High Council Addresses the Representative from Vinyelaujor, Glimmering Dew."

"If we're appointing a new religious representative, might I suggest that we consider Grand Cleric Buttersnap? She's a renown author whose book is popular with Spireans, and she's a good friend to most of us in the High Council. Perhaps if we present this option to the people we can consider the Grand Cleric?"

"A Word High Council."

"The High Council Addresses the Representative from Mephiste, Jurgen Mardoc."

Jurgen crossed his arms. "I want to place my input and say I like the Grand Cleric too, but we must consider the people. We of Mephiste will hold elections to decide whether we want Venerable Buttersnap as our Representative."

"Starfold will too."

"Shaltric agrees."

"Merlon Rejects unilaterally the Grand Cleric's nomination. She's not Forntian." A cat beastling said with rage.

"Sardoc will vote."

"Anherc will likely agree with the appointment, but I will hold the elections."

"Tabrill will want to vote."

"Alright High Council, it is your job to collect the votes for the appointee of Grand Cleric Buttersnap." Maven Auryn said as he nodded and thought to himself that she would likely be a brilliant addition to the High Council as a voice of religious representation for her knowledge on the universality of Ponyism and understanding of different religions including Forntianism. Maven hoped that when the Votes were tallied that she would win, but he was not too confident. "High Council also we present the proposal Docket MX-GH We the people of Caltris Propose that the Beastling States become a signatory to the charter of the Coalition of Ponyist States. All in favor to adopt the Charter, please sign now."

The Charter was passed around and the following signatures were gleaned.

Docket MX-GH


On the Proposal for the Signing of the Charter of the Coalition of Ponyist States: We the people of Caltris Propose that the Beastling States become a signatory to the charter of the Coalition of Ponyist States.
Signatories:



Representative of Mephiste: Jurgen Mardoc
Representative of Anherc: Tristal Muller
Representative of Sardoc: Justine Macral
Representative of Shakron: Riel Mastai
Representative of Tabril: Oyelia Pontroff
Representative of Caltris: Maven Auryn
Representative of Ohm: Treagan Markoff
Representative of Starfold: Merris Quine
Representative of Shaltric: Eames Gromkin
Representative of Vinyelaujor: Glimmering Dew

Minister of Foreign Relations: Darrus Tethyr
Minister of Health and Welfare Services: Maxine Devoroe
Minister of Economic affairs: Vane Morrison
Minister of Contract enforcement: Grayson Martillo
Minister of Administrative duty: Silas Urdok
Minister of Interracial Relations: Lancaeriel Deortryl


"It seems that High Council our people have decided to ratify and move forward with this action. May the Blessings of the Just God rain down on our decision. I shall let his Majesty King Alexander know of our decision."

To: the Kingdom of Enatai,

From:The Beastling States of Crystal Spires


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Your Royal Majesty King of Enatai,

We of Crystal Spires have decided with the amendments made to the Charter we feel safer to adopt the position of signatories. We wish to sign the charter formally to allow reentry into the Coalition of Ponyist States under the acceptance of the Charter. We still have our concerns about the power structure, but when we entered the Coalition we understood this structure would remain, and we are pleasantly surprised by the addition of Luna, but we're still apprehensive about issues of conflict resolution, but the Spirean people have put their faith in the Coalition once more, and we hope that the Coalition proves to be what it claims to be.

Warm Regards,

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Postby YellowApple » Sat Dec 17, 2011 9:12 pm

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King Alexander,

It seems the Constitution has been revised to support Secular Ponyism. For this, the Nomadic Peoples of YellowApple are most grateful. Though we still hold some concern regarding the lack of inclusion of the policies decided upon in the Economic and Defense Summits, the Constitution is now in a state where we as a collective nation can consent to its terms.

Consider the Constitution of the Coalition of Ponyist States signed and ratified by myself; you are authorized to use the digital copy of my own signature should a physical signature upon the original document be required. Additionally, Lead General John Rico will be in attendance at the Unveiling Gala. He will be accompanied by no more than two armed escorts (we will comply with any firearms regulations and restrictions present on Shota Island) and one personal assistant or secretary.

We look forward to peace and prosperity between our nations.

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To whom it may concern,

We've been informed that the revised version of the charter now supports secular ponyism, and we have also reviewed it. Although the inadequate descriptions on Friendship and the Elements of Harmony still make us concerned, on the instruction of President Regal Charmer and on behalf the people of Lykosia, we agreed to sign the charter.

As the president is currently occupied at the moment, we have provided a copy of President Regal Charmer's signature as well as Minister Sunshine Heart's original signature. You are authorized to use the digital copy of their signatures if we are required to physically sign the charter.

As for the Unveiling Gala, Minister of Foreign Affairs Sunshine Heart himself will attend the event.


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Subject: Membership in the CoPS

King Alexander,

While the constitution still contains concerning measures in its command structure, we find the amendments provide adequate protection of our national sovereignty as well as our secular approach to Ponyism. We would like to be permitted to sign the constitution as members if you would let us. I will personally attend the gala on Shota Island along with General Iron Shield, who attended the CoPS Defense Summit in the past.

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Postby Enatai » Mon Dec 19, 2011 3:37 pm

Shrillland wrote:The SPF wishes to voice a few questions and concerns about the proposed constitution.

1. Will there be a Judiciary included in the Constitution along the lines of a Ponyist World Court which all CoPS Members can be held to account?

2. Why must supreme executive and legislative power be placed in the hands of a few privileged nations without anything to place them in account if they were to change and make anti-ponyist decisions? Shouldn't there be provisions to keep them in check, or create a post of Coalition President or Secretary General, chosen from among the members?

3. Shouldn't the Coalition admission process include a requirement for a nation to sign and ratify the Constitution before admission?

4. How will this Constitution be promulgated?

We hope you will answer these questions.

Yours faithfully,
Rarity,
President of the Shrill Pony Federation


To: President Rarity of the Shrill Pony Federation
From: King Alexander of the Kingdom of Enatai

Thank you for your letter! I would be more than happy to respond.
1. Will there be a Judiciary included in the Constitution along the lines of a Ponyist World Court which all CoPS Members can be held to account?

Currently the judiciary system in place is based on the judgement of its nations peers as decided by the three leaders of the coalition, each one of which is in turn accountable to the other. However, there is the possibility that a judiciary system could come into place to ensure continued fairness, equality, and Ponyist values between member nations.

2. Why must supreme executive and legislative power be placed in the hands of a few privileged nations without anything to place them in account if they were to change and make anti-ponyist decisions? Shouldn't there be provisions to keep them in check, or create a post of Coalition President or Secretary General, chosen from among the members?

This coalition currently runs on the system of the social contract. Thus power is inherently tied into whether or not we wield it effectively. Should we clearly cease to rule based on Ponyism, then we shall cease to be valid rulers of the Coalition of Ponyist States and it would be within your rights as member nations to take whatever actions necessary to ensure that rule remains in the hands of dedicated Ponyists. The reason for our level of power is not that we wish to wield it for our own sake, but rather so that the coalition may stay strong together as a whole and minimize inter-coalition power struggles. The three of us shall be able to keep one another in check. In theory this power could be abused easily. However, I would like to see evidence that we have abused it so far. While your concerns are understandable, please look at our track record as rulers thus far. I believe our actions may speak for themselves.

3. Shouldn't the Coalition admission process include a requirement for a nation to sign and ratify the Constitution before admission?

Quite right! I shall update the constitution to include such a requirement as soon as possible.

4. How will this Constitution be promulgated?

Is this not promulgation already?
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