Should Pferdburg be partitioned?

[Pferdburg]

Pferdburg is a multi-species multi-ethnic state that is preparing to have elections and hopefully return to democracy. But relationships between the Ponies and Humans, as well as two major ethnic groups are becoming increasingly strained.

Humans - 65%
Germans - 40%
Russians - 25%
Ponies - 35%
Earth Ponies - 20%
Unicorns - 15%

The map above shows their relative distribution. Ponies live in the western and eastern regions (Teisland and Boden) shown in pink. The humans live in the central regions; Germans to the South (Altpferdland, in red) and the Russians to the North (the Stavletskaya region, in blue).



The country was a communist puppet state until 1989. Following the Constitution of 1993, the government was dominated by Chancellor Kurt Biermann for 15 years and his supporters who were mostly German. Biermann's government was corrupt and its democratic credentials were questionable. Media was brought back under state control and political opponents were harassed, while the government continued to win elections.

In 2008 he was overthrown in the Pony Revolution. But the Germans protested the government and boycotted elections, leaving a pony-dominated Constituent Assembly that established a ponyist state and made several unpopular decisions such as banning alcohol imports. It was eventually overthrown by the military the following year. Elections were scheduled by the regime for early 2010 but were cancelled due to violence and some military skirmishes.

Now elections are going to be held again but the Military Council has banned "parties with a species-based or ethnically-based agenda or those that threaten the common unity of Pferdburg" from participating, including the Pony Party and some human nationalist and secessionist movements such as the Russian Front. This has led to the Ponies and many Russians announcing their plans to boycott the election of the reinstated Landtag (Duma).

So the question is, should the country be divided up?

[Tekcirb]

No, work together and prosper.

[Threlizdun]

Dividing a country in two often results in continuing the tension between the two peoples, as they never come to understand and accept one another. However, forced integration can lead to further tension than already present. We woulc suggest trying to maintain a single nation, but you must choose in accodrance to what would work best for everyone.

[Soviet Canuckistan]

I say kill the ponies,that is why relations are all so tense.

[Pferdburg]

I say kill the ponies,that is why relations are all so tense.

"Even the worst of the nationalist and specieist parties aren't suggesting that. We are not a bloodthirsty people."
Vladimir Usupov, current Chairman of the Military Council.

Regenbogen, the chairpony of the Pony Party, has warned that the newly elected Landtag will lack legitimacy because "too many popular parties have been surpressed, especially pony interests" and has said that if the national Parliament refuses to represent the Pony Party and the Ponyist Front, the ponies will "establish their own Landtag to represent their interests and dreams and we hope to work with the human Landtag. I should warn you that we are not planning a secession - but we haven't ruled it out in the event of an emergency."

Since about 40-50% of the Russian humans are expected to boycott the election, about 80% of the voters in the upcoming election will be German humans.

[ArghNeedAName]

The military clearly made a bad decision to ban specy and ethnically-based parties. It would be better to have a Parliament that represents the blunt and ugly truth.

[Greater Mackonia]

No deport all the stupid ponies and the others will work together.......if they do establish their own lantag then we will be happy to deal with them

[Unicario]

I say kill the ponies,that is why relations are all so tense.

"Genocide is the death of human reasoning and global peace."
- Ranko Saotome, Chairwoman of the Communist Party of Unicario and President of Unicario

"Ethnic partitioning is absolutely a bad idea in most cases. By doing so you are encouraging ethnic tensions between the two partitions, and general discrimination and segregation. Pferdburg should remain as is, and the two races should learn to work hand in hand, just as Unicario's humans and ponies have done."
- Natsuru Senou, Minister of Foreign Relations and Senior Member of the Communist Party
and, Ranko Saotome, President of Unicario and CPU Chairwoman

[Greater Mackonia]

I say kill the ponies,that is why relations are all so tense.

"Genocide is the death of human reasoning and global peace."
- Ranko Saotome, Chairwoman of the Communist Party of Unicario and President of Unicario`

Ahhhh but deportation is not genocide is it comrade!

[Unicario]

"Genocide is the death of human reasoning and global peace."
- Ranko Saotome, Chairwoman of the Communist Party of Unicario and President of Unicario`

Ahhhh but deportation is not genocide is it comrade!

"Deportation is simply ethnic discrimination. I'm absolutely sure that ethnic discrimination isn't what Communism's basic ideas are, at least, you should understand that."
- Chairwoman Saotome

[Greater Mackonia]

Ahhhh but deportation is not genocide is it comrade!

"Deportation is simply ethnic discrimination. I'm absolutely sure that ethnic discrimination isn't what Communism's basic ideas are, at least, you should understand that."
- Chairwoman Saotome

And ponies are enemies of communism ....hippostania and the ESC are proof of this

[Unicario]

"Deportation is simply ethnic discrimination. I'm absolutely sure that ethnic discrimination isn't what Communism's basic ideas are, at least, you should understand that."
- Chairwoman Saotome

And ponies are enemies of communism ....hippostania and the ESC are proof of this

"So one nation that is anti-communist means and entire race are enemies of communism? That is very untrue. The Communist Party of Unicario has a very high pony membership rate. Using your logic, I could say that humans too are enemies of communism, provided nations like Grand World Order, etc. etc, exist in their missions to destroy the communist idea. But you and I are getting off track."
- Chairwoman and President Ranko Saotome

[Pferdburg]

And ponies are enemies of communism ....hippostania and the ESC are proof of this

"So one nation that is anti-communist means and entire race are enemies of communism? That is very untrue. The Communist Party of Unicario has a very high pony membership rate. Using your logic, I could say that humans too are enemies of communism, provided nations like Grand World Order, etc. etc, exist in their missions to destroy the communist idea. But you and I are getting off track."
- Chairwoman and President Ranko Saotome

In Pferdland support for the Communist Party is almost entirely human. Some pony political organisations like the Ponyist Front are strongly anti-Communist but the majority of ponies simply don't care about it.

[Unicario]

"So one nation that is anti-communist means and entire race are enemies of communism? That is very untrue. The Communist Party of Unicario has a very high pony membership rate. Using your logic, I could say that humans too are enemies of communism, provided nations like Grand World Order, etc. etc, exist in their missions to destroy the communist idea. But you and I are getting off track."
- Chairwoman and President Ranko Saotome

In Pferdland support for the Communist Party is almost entirely human. Some pony political organisations like the Ponyist Front are strongly anti-Communist but the majority of ponies simply don't care about it.

Unicarion President Saotome was quoted as saying, "Just because they hate communism doesn't mean they're any less entitled to rights. Unicario's "Communist" government has been supported by the public majority since the death of the first Communist leader in the 90's. Every democratic election, the Communist Party has won hands down, so we couldn't care if people hate communism or not."

[Greater Mackonia]

And ponies are enemies of communism ....hippostania and the ESC are proof of this

"So one nation that is anti-communist means and entire race are enemies of communism? That is very untrue. The Communist Party of Unicario has a very high pony membership rate. Using your logic, I could say that humans too are enemies of communism, provided nations like Grand World Order, etc. etc, exist in their missions to destroy the communist idea. But you and I are getting off track."
- Chairwoman and President Ranko Saotome

And we are not human therefor yes humans could be enemies of communism but they do not express it as much as ponies not to mention they worship to despots as gods

a very backwards belief and these gods hate communism and ponyism is the only religion which bans non-ponies .ponies also constantly try to start trouble in other countries so the most sensible thing to do is to deport them

[Unicario]

"So one nation that is anti-communist means and entire race are enemies of communism? That is very untrue. The Communist Party of Unicario has a very high pony membership rate. Using your logic, I could say that humans too are enemies of communism, provided nations like Grand World Order, etc. etc, exist in their missions to destroy the communist idea. But you and I are getting off track."
- Chairwoman and President Ranko Saotome

And we are not human therefor yes humans could be enemies of communism but they do not express it as much as ponies not to mention they worship to despots as gods

a very backwards belief and these gods hate communism and ponyism is the only religion which bans non-ponies .ponies also constantly try to start trouble in other countries so the most sensible thing to do is to deport them

"Ah yes. Reptiles and Cats. Fun fact, Cat-people are nearly extinct in Unicario. They've evolved mostly into a species named "Neko", and there are almost all female, just like those animes. Reptiles? Well, considering our experiences, we've pretty much formulated that Scalies are similar to Ponyists. They want ethnic power for their own ethnicity, so honestly. Don't act so high and mighty, gecko."

[Greater Mackonia]

And we are not human therefor yes humans could be enemies of communism but they do not express it as much as ponies not to mention they worship to despots as gods

a very backwards belief and these gods hate communism and ponyism is the only religion which bans non-ponies .ponies also constantly try to start trouble in other countries so the most sensible thing to do is to deport them

"Ah yes. Reptiles and Cats. Fun fact, Cat-people are nearly extinct in Unicario. They've evolved mostly into a species named "Neko", and there are almost all female, just like those animes. Reptiles? Well, considering our experiences, we've pretty much formulated that Scalies are similar to Ponyists. They want ethnic power for their own ethnicity, so honestly. Don't act so high and mighty, gecko."

Excuse me human but i myself am a monitor lizard and the majority of reptiles look more like velicoraptors geckos my friend are a very small minority with the moniters and Makhti forming a majority the cats are not cat-people just talking cats and yes they are extinct in most states and Scalies do not all worship a foreign god who want world domination

Sikasith Mackhiro

[New Nassrau]

I say, make a federation of states unified by a monarchy, like The United Arab Emirates(Sorry for RLreference)

[Pferdburg]

Robert Becker, the leader of the Liberal Party, has said that "In general I support the right of our beings to self-determination. But I call for unity among us, because dividing our country will make the situation worse. If the human and pony regions were divided, it would trigger a split between the Russians and Germans, and even the unicorns in the west and the earth ponies in the east." He said that the pony branch of the Liberal Party will be representing in the Ponytag.

Currently there are five parties that are expected to be represented in the Ponytag. Since an election cannot be held, seats will be decided based on a Gallup poll from earlier this month, which identified just under half the ponies supporting the Pony Party. The remainder of the pony's support was split between the cross-specy Liberal and Green Parties, and the pony-only Ponyist Front and Equine Liberation.

The Russian front, led by Nikolai Vavilov, has called for a "free and independent Stavletskaya Oblast". It is a hardline nationalist party that was also banned from participation in the election, along with the more moderate Party of Regions.

[Kibbutz]

Robert Becker, the leader of the Liberal Party, has said that "In general I support the right of our beings to self-determination. But I call for unity among us, because dividing our country will make the situation worse. If the human and pony regions were divided, it would trigger a split between the Russians and Germans, and even the unicorns in the west and the earth ponies in the east." He said that the pony branch of the Liberal Party will be representing in the Ponytag.

Currently there are five parties that are expected to be represented in the Ponytag. Since an election cannot be held, seats will be decided based on a Gallup poll from earlier this month, which identified just under half the ponies supporting the Pony Party. The remainder of the pony's support was split between the cross-specy Liberal and Green Parties, and the pony-only Ponyist Front and Equine Liberation.

The Russian front, led by Nikolai Vavilov, has called for a "free and independent Stavletskaya Oblast". It is a hardline nationalist party that was also banned from participation in the election, along with the more moderate Party of Regions.

You should consider a decentralised government, or federation. In your case, I suggest federalism due to the strong separatist movement - a federation/confederation will provide unity, and autonomy.

[ArghNeedAName]

We agree that your country should adopt a two or three state which was done by other ethnically divided countries such as Bosnia (albeit without having a war first) and Belgium. Are you returning to the previous Constitution or are you going to draft a new one? I would definately recommend the latter.

[Kibbutz]

We agree that your country should adopt a two or three state which was done by other ethnically divided countries such as Bosnia (albeit without having a war first) and Belgium. Are you returning to the previous Constitution or are you going to draft a new one? I would definately recommend the latter.

They should have as many federal subjects as they want /need. I can see a possible six federal divisions in the map given.
They should draft a new constitution, one which all can agree upon, to solidify the federal structure - as you have done with yours.