International Union of Equality and Freedom (IC)

[Crystal Spires]

"The purpose for maturity's mention is that there are some who would claim this would spread beyond the facets of our intended purpose. A child is, arguably, not able to convey its sapience in the beginning of development but this is not the argue that the child is not sapient, and the measures for sapience which are very hard to pinpoint have thought and development very clearly defined which is what makes such things as mentioning 'at the age of maturity' important. It is not to say that we will not protect the young, but how we are able to define what is or is not sapient. Though your analysis of life itself does indeed bring the idea I brought up which is 'the protection of the inherent value of sapience' rather than the sanctity of life, which as you have clearly elucidated, contains phrasing which protects some and leaves others out! Perish the though should someone decide to use our lack of forethought to sneak by the law..." Maven shook his head as he imagined the stupid things Mediators did to argue that their client was not accused of harming a sapient being when it was fairly obvious that they were. "Covering all our bases will prevent disunity in the future."

[Apoctis]

Archaon spoke in a deep tone "We should string all who oppose us, up by their toes and wrap them in barbed wire so they feel pain every time they squirm. Serves the snakes they are right for messing with us. Enemies should be given no quarter and to those that give their enemies a chance to stab them in the back, they deserve everything that happens to them because they could of prevented it." he nodded. What he said did not really matter towards the situation, he just thought it would be best if they understood his position on any matter pertaining to those they were to punish or face in conflict.

[Dilange]

Archaon spoke in a deep tone "We should string all who oppose us, up by their toes and wrap them in barbed wire so they feel pain every time they squirm. Serves the snakes they are right for messing with us. Enemies should be given no quarter and to those that give their enemies a chance to stab them in the back, they deserve everything that happens to them because they could of prevented it." he nodded. What he said did not really matter towards the situation, he just thought it would be best if they understood his position on any matter pertaining to those they were to punish or face in conflict.

Gabriyel looked at him.

"Thats just disgusting and demonic. I agree that the slavers deserve the harshest punishments, but their is a point where just punishment turns into barbaric torture."

[Apoctis]

"Thats just disgusting and demonic. I agree that the slavers deserve the harshest punishments, but their is a point where just punishment turns into barbaric torture."

Archaon laughed "Is not slavery barbaric torture? I say flaying them of their skin is just and fair, but only because so much pain can be derived form these actions. If you have a solution that brings pain and suffering to them, then you may enact it. I however wish to see a Daemon claw its way out of the skull of the mortal who dares to exist and stand in my way." his eyes glowed red. He was a very serious chaos being, most of the time. It was hard to be serious when bart of you was insane and the other part a psychopath, born form the very essence of chaos itself. His mannerism were very different from normal mortal behaviour.

[The Faya Islands]

The Faya islander delegate shouts "YOUR NATO IN DIGUISE!"

"I think the Confederacy can more then oblige in providing the necessary communications expert for this operation, I'm sure there's a human telemetric specialist somewhere- Wait, what invasion?" Digging through his saddle bag at this James added. "And can someone please have this fool thrown out? This kind of sheer nonsense is exactly why this Union never gets anything done."

"Good Says The Faya Islands Delegate

[Salvarity]

"I think the Confederacy can more then oblige in providing the necessary communications expert for this operation, I'm sure there's a human telemetric specialist somewhere- Wait, what invasion?" Digging through his saddle bag at this James added. "And can someone please have this fool thrown out? This kind of sheer nonsense is exactly why this Union never gets anything done."

"Good Says The Faya Islands Delegate

OOC: Why are you posting in the IC? Your not a UEF member.

[UEG-The Systems Alliance]

Sia returned to the meeting, having went away to receive some information. She looked around and made a small gesture.

"So what has been the topic of discussion recently, sorry for the small absence." she said, as it turns out she was downloading a small file for later use which could be used to help give out anything the UEF might need regarding news on a meeting that is underway for them.

[Epistemepolis]

"It seems paradoxical to torture someone because they were torturing people." Said Delta-Alpha-Beta-Eta-Seven-One (Dave)
"And what benefit do you get from torturing someone as punishment? Punishment with the sole intention of punishment is useless. It doesn't undo the crime. It doesn't repair the criminal. It doesn't help the victims. Revenge is not the purpose of this organisation."

[Sanian Confederacy]

Archaon’s words had stirred something deep within James, and his repressed, albeit far darker form brewed beneath his falsely clam exterior, barring its fangs and licking them with certain malicious desire. Managing to shake off such appealing thoughts, James spoke.

“Dave has a point, in spite of how much I and the rest of the world would enjoy to see New World Oceania made to pay for the various crimes and civil rights abuses it’s regime has managed to put it’s people and the world though."

"Preferably in blood..."

“Answering with such malicious action and arguably dark intent will do nothing to further our cause.”

[Dilange]

Archaon’s words had stirred something deep within James, and his repressed, albeit far darker form brewed beneath his falsely clam exterior, barring its fangs and licking them with malicious desire. Managing to shake off such appealing thoughts, James spoke.

“Dave has a point, in spite of how much I and the rest of the world would enjoy to see New World Oceania made to pay for the various crimes and civil rights abuses it’s regime has managed to put it’s people and the world though."

"Preferably in blood..."

“Answering with such malicious action and arguably dark intent will do nothing to further our cause.”

Gabriyel smiled.

"As I do agree with the Sanian delgate's decrees.....some torturous punishment must be given but nothing that makes the IUEF look like satanic terrorists. I suggest any slaver be given in custody to the Belagossi Espionne or Task Force 82. We know ways to torture and to kill yet we dont see any way to give them the blessing of living, at least when their dead they cant practice slavery anymore."

[Apoctis]

Archaon nodded "Then the solution is simple, whenever they disregard us or attack us, in revenge we show up early and rip their eyes from the sockets. Simple, easy and renders them useless in the grand scheme. If they remain useful we will take their kidneys out with rusted knives and disembowel their children." His red eyes flared like fire, black armour creaking as he moved within. He was sure this was sound in every way and that the dark gods would be fine with this offering as long as it was carried out with some liberation on how much damage one was able to do to the mortals. Blood would surely soak the land that he walked if it involved taking revenge.

[Sanian Confederacy]

“Again, a valid option... If it wasn’t for the amount international relations damage and political backlash that would cause. We need to demoralize and defeat those who do decide to call us their enemies through intense, focused military strikes. Utterly demolishing their effective force projection abilities in the process and ensuring that their morally corrupt regimes are incapable of further oppressing both the Equality and Freedom this organization was created to defend. Not commit unnecessary atrocities against them in the name of Equality and Freedom."

“So, you know. Show the world we mean business; regroup, reorganize, get our collective heads out of our asses, and make an example of Oceania in the process. To be blunt about it...”

[Yorobia]

"Not to fight against what you just said, but literally, our heads our preferably not in our asses, and for the people who do have their heads in their asses would have their face covered in ****. Try restating it into a better way."

[The Faya Islands]

"Good Says The Faya Islands Delegate

OOC: Why are you posting in the IC? Your not a UEF member.

im a delegate you moron

[Crystal Spires]

im a delegate you moron

OOC: No you aren't! You did not apply nor did anyone Accept you, and furthermore

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