International Union of Equality and Freedom (IC)

[Teddy Bear Republic]

"Exactly. All criterion must be met," said Tottles. He fiddled with a paw before going on. "And, erm, regarding your banning of the Socialist Party, why was that?"

[Crystalcliff Point]

"We don't allow political parties, period. It wasn't due to an ideological difference, but rather the fact that they blazenly did so without going through proper channels. I'm not in a party, Toroko isn't. It's a matter of equality. We've seen what parties can do to democracies, we're trying to avoid this mishap."

She thinks for a moment before continuing, "It's actually odd. They all blamed somebody who doesn't seem to exist for being the ringleader. I'll need to look into this..."

[Teddy Bear Republic]

"Thank you for the clarification, but ... argh, never mind." Tottles had made a transgression once, and he wasn't going to raise a controversy again. Could banning political parties be against ... but no, they allow all speech, just not ... ... His brain was working overtime, and he asked an aide to get him an ice cold lemonade.

[Walrusfolk Eurarcta]

"The ability to feel pain as the defining trait would put us in a bind. That would mean we'd have to give full rights to cores, and those are dangerous! Perhaps a combination of the two?"

"Hang on. Ain't there disorders that make it so ya can't feel pain? does that mean the person is not sapient?" Darkwolyn wondered how often they would debate this definition. And the newcomers disturbed her. "Earth Unification?" Wouldn't that give the warmlanders virtual control over Eurarcta? That would be a dire threat to the Walrusfolk Way of Life, not to mention possibly threaten the Vodkarian Union.

[Apoctis]

Ahriman had gone into meditation to waste time. He was innerly focused and glowed a faint blue as he looked campy around the room and sat quietly as he sighed. Things were going well.

[Crystalcliff Point]

"Don't worry, it's great that you called the actions of our government into question. It helps prevent corruption! This is an example of values dissonance. What is acceptable or considered important in some nations isn't considered so important in others."

"Because it'll help clarify further, I'll explain the constitution's position against parties. They turn politics into almost a variety of 'brand loyalty'. So instead of looking at Candidate's X, Y and Z you'd be looking at party X, Y and Z. It'd come down to being nothing more than Dyspepsi vs Cloaca Cola. And in that event nobody wins, except the people with the money to buy out the political parties (And therefore every politician) and the corrupt politicians themselves."

"This was, at it's core, a poorly disguised coup d'état. I'd have undoubtably been indisposed, as with Toroko. I feel the need to emphasize, the 'socialist party' were not fine, upstanding individuals. They had a strongly racist agenda, and would've pulled Crystalcliff out of this union, forcefully removed all immigrants (And purged the ways that resisted), and forcefully closed our borders once more. In short: All progress would've been lost."

"You'll find these actions to be neither commendable nor condemnable by the UEF charter as it is written. We didn't ban an ideology, they were allowed to run for office and represent their constituents. They just committed a giant faux pas and faced the punishment. But... we got off topic, and for that I apologize."

[Conclespia]

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[The UEG-Space Command]

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[Yorobia]

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[Crystalcliff Point]

"With all that said, it seems way too quiet on the... 'equality and freedom' front. No rights violations, nothing. Hmmm, wasn't there to be a meeting with Hippostania? What's happening with that?"

[Yorobia]

"Are we really discussing freedom and equality right now? Because we haven't gotten much done." Henry stirred his lemonade(OOC: assuming I still have mine) before he took a sip.

[Crystalcliff Point]

"If it's any consolation, apparently the newly formed APA hasn't gotten a whole lot done either. They've allegedly got a few neat little dossiers on ponyist states. But that's to be expected. I don't know what they contain, and neither does Chibz. He's taking a while..."

"We're planning on slowly easing the mimiga populations off their extra rights. This is likely to be met with the usual belly-aching, but it has to happen. I haven't noticed anything overtly terrible happening, but surely SOMEONE has."

[Crystal Spires]

"Currently there has been a lot going on when it comes to the Hippostanian sanctions, but we are still waiting for the door to diplomacy to open. However it is as I feared, there has been no opening thus far from Lyra to open negotiation, and the nations of Vacluse, Costa Fiero, and a few others have openly threatened war for our peaceful demonstrations of sanctions to pressure Hippostania to the negotiating table in order to open rights for those of Communist and leftist political persuasion. The suggestion that we have done nothing is a little misinformed." Maven said as he sipped tea.

He leaned back as he read more of the Communiques. "From what I have seen there has been overwhelming calls for diplomacy, and my intentions behind the call for protections of rights has been called into question, however laughable that is. It is silly, and we of Crystal Spires dismiss it as silliness. However the Hippostanians have not spoken nor budged in the slightest."

[Legokiller]

"The World Assembly... And yes, while I admit I'm intrigued by your proposal Madame Pinky Pie, I am still a Coalition Member. Let us hear what you have to say about the possible solution to taking Lyra's power with laughter. If it involves any violence, however, I will step back and allow others to do what they will, however her calls for violence and attempts upon my nation have not gone unnoticed." Maven said with his arms crossed.

He did not desire to fight Lyra, but he knew that it was likely an ally of his would, and he was not going to impose one way or the other. This would be their choice.

"Well we don't need to invade Lyra house and hang her, no no no. We must first free the people of Hippostania from their fear of communism first! How Mr Auryn? Music duh! So our, well more like The Awesome Islands of Legokiller first step is to negotiate with Lyra personally for permission for an Ponyist/International musical festival at Waverley,Hippostania Capital. This part shouldn't be any problem since well after all still under the banner of 'ponyism' and Legokillerian songs are indeed non communist, mainly Rock&Roll with our themes are ideally the Elements of Harmony, but more based on Laughter. This should be hopefully more friendly and more Awakening towards the Hippostanian peoples about what their lives are being truly feared by government propaganda and lies on communism than living real ponyism of the Elements of Harmony by laughing at it. Then Capitalism comes to play by selling those songs everywhere in Hippostania Retail Sector! That's the first part of our plan for placing the instruments of the future Hippostanian Revolution..." Pinkie Pie writing down some lyrics on some papers.

[Crystal Spires]

"That is a brilliant idea! I think it would be wonderful to do after the diplomatic talks are done, if they even happen at all. Although it'd probably be a risk for me to go I suspect. Being a Sommunist." Maven said with a chuckle. "After all the Hippostania did hold a rather loud protect with the chants being 'Death to Maven' and 'Death to Crystal Spires'. I don't suppose it would be a good idea to have it in Waverley if you want me to be able to come. It might be too dangerous." Maven said with a sigh...

[Legokiller]

"Like I said, the diplomatic talks for our International musical festival most likely be discussed by me personally with Lyra at the Legokiller Embassy of Hippostania. She will be interested by our sweet little meeting with Ambassador Ryan Smith. Now for your case playing your musical instruments in Waverly is risky since...that horrible silly nonsense...unless your like Rainbow Dash with the will on taking the dangerous zone. But I say just stay at home from ending up at Lyra basement from her turning you into a cupcake."Pinkie Pie giggled reminder that online story using that as an prank once.

[Walrusfolk Eurarcta]

"Why not harness their fear of communism a bit?" suggested Darkwolyn, "Isn't their control against the drug trade an economic control? Both their drug war and this 'communism' are Red Markets. Maybe if we point out their Red practices, they would end them."

[The UEG-Space Command]

"It would be logical to give Hippsotania a false copy, the UNSC will create a fabric copy, if we can brake dimensions and make telporters this would be easy, when done we can hand them the real one or the fake one, then the diplomatic talks can continue, that is if you want to go ahead on that Maven." Delta asked.

[Crystalcliff Point]

"A copy has already been provided, and the original is being investigated into. To be honest, I'm mostly wondering what she's going to do with the original..."

Humming to herself, Sara opened a letter that had come with the letter. Skimming it over, she reeled slight in shock.

"Change of plan. Don't give the duplicate to Lyra. The grimalkin is doing something stupid. I need to stress, heavily, that she does not work for me directly or indirectly. "

[Crystal Spires]

"The problem with the false copies is that they will accuse us of creating the original as a copy. This would be a horrific thing, and we oppose it as it will cast doubt upon all investigation. Reasonable doubt. It's not going to be done." Maven said as he crossed his arms.

It's a bad idea all around... we need to find some other way.

[Silver Ridge]

May I suggest propaganda my fellow delegates?.- said Isaac through an intercom.

The power of propaganda is immense, we can see this by looking to the past: Cleopatra, one of the greatest minds of her time. However until very recently she was considered a seducer, deceiver, adulteress and many other horrible traits. Why? Because the Roman propaganda sent out by Octavius has survived until this day. He used this propaganda to rally Romans an Egyptians alike to his side rather than Cleopatra's.

If what you want is a communist or even a more open Hippostania, I suggest doing the same thing, using propaganda to convince them socialism is a legitimate way of thinking. It is a clean, non-violent and efficient way of changing the way beings think.

[Crystalcliff Point]

"We could bring the original copy with us to a meeting? Would that be acceptable? One second, I... need to go... do something."

She looked down at the mimiga in the baby-carrier and loosened, then lowered him to the ground. "King, play with the nice Storkii and behave while I'm gone. I won't be long, I promise."

"Well, I need to... go do something quickly. Please, carry on without me until I return."

She turned and faced the door, eyeing it over to roughly estimate the size.

She tapped her right prosthetic arm and nearly shouted, "Dimensional Interuption Imaginary Number Formed! Restriction Zero lifted, connection to the boundary stabilized. Crimson Grimoire, Activate!"

A thin layer of matter in the doorway shimmered and shone, quickly losing colour and moving directly to opaque white before becoming as a wavering bleached-white layer of tinfoil in the wind. She walked toward it confidently, right through it and disappeared.

Shortly after the screen vanished entirely, leaving no sign that Sara was ever there.

[Apoctis]

Ahriman just sat there listening to the conversation "I see, that is a very reasonable assumption." Ahriman then went back to writing down things and meditating.

[Walrusfolk Eurarcta]

May I suggest propaganda my fellow delegates?.- said Isaac through an intercom.

The power of propaganda is immense, we can see this by looking to the past: Cleopatra, one of the greatest minds of her time. However until very recently she was considered a seducer, deceiver, adulteress and many other horrible traits. Why? Because the Roman propaganda sent out by Octavius has survived until this day. He used this propaganda to rally Romans an Egyptians alike to his side rather than Cleopatra's.

If what you want is a communist or even a more open Hippostania, I suggest doing the same thing, using propaganda to convince them socialism is a legitimate way of thinking. It is a clean, non-violent and efficient way of changing the way beings think.

"'Socialism?' Since when is it the U.E.F.'s job to promote warmlander economic systems?"

[Crystal Spires]

"It isn't, but Hippostania's aggressive stance to the political system is beyond a simple propaganda campaign. They have even called Jesus a Communist. and declared their opposition to him." Maven laughed openly as he thought to himself the implications that followed.