International Union of Equality and Freedom (IC)

[Kingdoms of Cal]

Sara poured herself a glass, sighing to herself. I really should keep a closer eye on Toroko. Running off doing who-knows-what with shady internationals, unarmed and unescorted half the time...

"The wine is appreciated. I find alcohol helps when dealing with authoritarian-types. Royal family, you say? I've never had the pleasure of dealing with nobility. Ours was long since disposed when I was born. I suppose one could say that setting a 90% sales tax rate was not a good idea."

Lyie smiled " I am a royal, the princess of inleef, we do not have a queen by choice as we are waiting for ours to return....but we do have more than one royal family in the commonwealth...I dare say that is confusing"

Lyie smiled "I get expenses like all of the royals now. Seems we are now expected to do what we should have always done."

Then smiled openly "I have my own income you might have read some of my books..."

Then went quiet and whispered" well if you have read any of lady sunanta's books*..it wasn't me...but I will sign them"

* erotic literature that a lot of people like.

[The UEG-Space Command]

"May I inqure what this Hippostania has done so far which would require such a unwise descion by their government? and a update so far on said issues?" Delta said as Maine kept silent at the moment.

OOC: Nobody denies a question this long, someone answer already.

[Crystal Spires]

"May I inqure what this Hippostania has done so far which would require such a unwise descion by their government? and a update so far on said issues?" Delta said as Maine kept silent at the moment

OOC: It's been answered a dozen times, but here's the summary

[The UEG-Space Command]

"This Hippostania seems like a dictatorship yet it calls itself a democracy of freedom, if I am correct it is startlingly close to a facist state." Delta said as Maine started to talk to someone via a small hud screen which covered his left eye. "It should be noted that the UNSC will require land large enough to sustain a large country of a few billion people, said colony would be used for a more post primative, or in your case modern technological soceoty, if you can find any land for said colonial creation, that would help. Anyways if this Hippostania proves to be to much of a hinderence on possible Earth unification and war between the UEF and said country breaks out, the UNSC will use it's colony to help in liberating said country." Delta said as maine finished his private talk, sigma translated his hissing.
"Yes, it would be important to have a claim on this earth, there seems to be enough un claimed territory which is strange, but this would help imensially."

[Apoctis]

Ahriman sighed "Yes, this was quite obvious, though I am sure the help offered is much appreciated. I think we should consider other rising implications in this world."

[Yorobia]

Henry entered the room after his sleep and looked around for a seat. He saw one near Ahriman and sat down. "Hello delegates, I am back to continue to attend this meeting."

[Crystal Spires]

"It is more than a fascist state. To call it fascist is insufficient. It is a completely paranoid McCarthyist state on the constant verge of war and chaos. Their weapons are the harbingers of death and destruction. We await the day when they fly off the handle and cause full and complete destruction of all the pony lands." Maven said with his arms crossed.

[The UEG-Space Command]

maine left, having to go on a scouting mission as Delta noticed.
"Maven, such a definition is more out of that of hate than anything else, because I need to be protected in a appropriate way is there any object which could fit me inside, my computing chip is rather small so it could fit ina a I-Pod or something. Also will you consider finding us land somewhere so we can create a colonial PMT puppet state?" Delta asked.

[Crystal Spires]

"That is not a definition made in hate. It is a fact. Their Communist Red Scare is exactly like McCarthyism, but made worse in that they have an immense set of weapons of mass destruction at their disposal. This is incredibly dangerous, and it is why we believe one day they really may destroy the pony lands. 'Tis not a statement made in spite." Maven said while adjusting his monocle. "As for your other requests it would be something that Salvarity would be more familiar with. The Region of the UEF is yet building its power as we speak. More nations have joined it. I have considered building a protectorate there, but at the moment I have my obligations to Mystria and to Vinyelaujor in the Pony Lands."

[The UEG-Space Command]

"I see, however the need for a colony is urgant, so when the ship is finished scanning we will mae land, as a question....what is your wish for the UNSC to do in case the UEF has to attack Hippostania, obviously if they keep Earth Unification impossible by the 22nd century, we would act, but if they are to challenge our colony and the UEF then there would surely be something we must do to help." Delta said turning to another delagte. "I heard of something intialed as the WA, could anyone explain what tis could be?"

[Crystal Spires]

"The World Assembly is a collective which creates and enforces international law, however you will find that it has no direct executive power. This means it has no means to enforce WA restrictions. This therefore makes membership in the WA all but useless. I however do still lobby and participate in WA activities. I also do intend to possibly resurrect my condemnation of Hippostania, one of the first works I made when I joined the International Theater after the first Ethereal Shift that forced Mystria into the open." Maven said as he pulled out a dusty proposal.

Docket I-IV C

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On the Proposal for the Condemnation of Hippostania:
We the Spirean people Condemn Hippostania for their Hate and threats to freedom and equality and the breaking of international law

Signatories

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Representative of Mephiste: Jurgen Mardoc
Representative of Anherc: Tristal Muller
Representative of Sardoc: Justine Macral
Representative of Shakron: Riel Mastai
Representative of Tabril: Oyelia Pontroff
Representative of Caltris: Maven Auryn
Representative of Ohm: Treagan Markoff
Representative of Starfold: Merris Quine
Representative of Shaltric: Eames Gromkin
Representative of Vinyelaujor: Glimmering Dew
Minister of Foreign Relations: Darrus Tethyr
Minister of Health and Welfare Services: Maxine Devoroe
Minister of Economic affairs: Vane Morrison
Minister of Contract enforcement: Grayson Martillo
Minister of Administrative duty: Silas Urdok
Minister of Interracial Relations: Lancaeriel Deortryl
Minister of Religious Representation: High Priest Quine Madern
Minister of Domestic Defense: Urden Yalton
Minister of National Defense: Krichen Nylion
Minister of Urban Planning and Infrastructure: Trandol Orel
Minister of Transportation: Quale Man'ic

[Legokiller]

"That is not a definition made in hate. It is a fact. Their Communist Red Scare is exactly like McCarthyism, but made worse in that they have an immense set of weapons of mass destruction at their disposal. This is incredibly dangerous, and it is why we believe one day they really may destroy the pony lands. 'Tis not a statement made in spite." Maven said while adjusting his monocle. "As for your other requests it would be something that Salvarity would be more familiar with. The Region of the UEF is yet building its power as we speak. More nations have joined it. I have considered building a protectorate there, but at the moment I have my obligations to Mystria and to Vinyelaujor in the Pony Lands."

"Well we should work together on overthrowing Lyra! I mean come on, blocking trade what will that do and removing her government and reforming it is the answer as clear as day! The people of Hippostania are the key for overthrowing her and at the end laughing at this whole Lyra's nonsense like real ponyism. Interested on this scheme Maven?" Pinkie Pie smirked.

[The UEG-Space Command]

"The World Assembly? What of the United Nations?" Delta asked.

OOC: Just to make things clear, lets all agree that the UN (what the WA was) is retconned and there never was one.

[Crystal Spires]

"The World Assembly... And yes, while I admit I'm intrigued by your proposal Madame Pinky Pie, I am still a Coalition Member. Let us hear what you have to say about the possible solution to taking Lyra's power with laughter. If it involves any violence, however, I will step back and allow others to do what they will, however her calls for violence and attempts upon my nation have not gone unnoticed." Maven said with his arms crossed.

He did not desire to fight Lyra, but he knew that it was likely an ally of his would, and he was not going to impose one way or the other. This would be their choice.

[The UEG-Space Command]

"No UN? strange, were I am from the Un and WA went to war with UN victory. Anyways Maven, will you please add me to a device that you can keep on your person? It would be safe for the both of us." Delta asked to Maven

He then showed a map.

"Also I have been notafied that the UNSC is starting the colony up on this land it found, we will create the colony now, we have some colonist ready to land and we will make it appear that we have been isolationist, that is until we met you, hopefully other governments would not make much of it.

[Apoctis]

Ahriman just sat there "Well we shall see if this actually does anything or if we are banging a steel drum here and then we shall act. This idleness is not accomplishing anything but provoking those that would go to war with this nation and those that would defend it." Ahriman stated.

[Crystal Spires]

Maven took the computer data chip and put it into the transponder on his fight vest.

"Like this perhaps?" Maven asked as he felt a moment of confusion, not sure if that was what was intended. However there was perhaps no safer spot than the transponder, unless of course someone intended to shoot him in the chest where his heart was. In that case, he'd have much more to worry about than a broken transponder.

[The UEG-Space Command]

"That is good Maven, thank you for that kind jestor, all you have to do is put the small disk in a pocket, anyways we expect our colony to be finished in a few weeks, the main cities and such will be months however, but the least we can do is start small." Delta said projecting near Maven "Now, what can I do to help agains this Hippostania problem, surely you do not want them to reach documents right?"

[Apoctis]

"That is good Maven, thank you for that kind jestor, all you have to do is put the small disk in a pocket, anyways we expect our colony to be finished in a few weeks, the main cities and such will be months however, but the least we can do is start small." Delta said projecting near Maven "Now, what can I do to help agains this Hippostania problem, surely you do not want them to reach documents right?"

Ahriman turned "Helping out by signing the sanctions against them, publicly letting them now that you despise what they are doing with letters, getting documents, anything really would aid our pursuit. Though action seems to be something we want to avoid for now du to the blind nature of the COPS."

[The UEG-Space Command]

"That would require the Earth Colony to be finished so we have a base to study, also I would all like to thank you for joinin gthis cause onofficially, hopefully through our efforts we can unite the planet and prevent another Great War before it is to late." Delta said as he waited.
"So If I may ask, the UNSC and Earth Empire overall allows A.I to have Sapient rights, however we are not organic, how does the UEF feel on the issue of A.I and their rights?"

[Crystal Spires]

"We of Crystal Spires can speak for ourselves when we say we support the lobby for protection of Robotic Sapient rights, as we believe they're protected under our laws under the umbrella term of Magitech, which if abused in any way is punishable... severely. We are also aware of the plight of the Robot Slaves and enslavement of the robot kin. We are very concerned about the lack of consensus in the Union, but we should put this forth perhaps to a vote, but technically Robotic sentients pass all the tests so they're protected by the UEF, but I'm concerned about robotic rights perhaps more than the average UEF member due to Magitech as a concept." Maven said as he took out and polished his monocle.

[The UEG-Space Command]

"A.I have been equals forthousands of years where I am from, only a few instances of negelc are known, I am a biproduct of a A>I fragmenting due to continues toruture, I am the Alphas Reason and cunning, long story which we can talk over later, but it is nice to know what you think on the issue." Delta said sipping virtual tea.

[Crystalcliff Point]

"One question is this: Do cores have rights? They're semi-sapient. I'd... argue they're incapable of learning, or for the most part self determination. Nobody has ever studied one in depth. They tend to die messily at the hands of their subject.

We have 'artificial people', but you can't easily tell they're artificial. They're organic, sapient beings. They even have a functional soul! My, what the people of the past have managed to..."

She paused to sign a veto paper and continued, "pull off. What about beings like Chibz, who are technically speaking not actually alive? Not in a zombie sense but... It's hard to explain."

[Teddy Bear Republic]

"No sentient robots this side of the table, but we're willing to back sapient robot rights. Although I think we might have to update about what defines something as sapient/sentient - perhaps the ability to feel pain? Because right now all of the criterion - I'm no psychology major, of course, and maybe merely misinterpreting the criterion - seems to be focused on logical capabilities, and calculators can add up to 2 + 2," said Tottles.

[Crystalcliff Point]

"The ability to feel pain as the defining trait would put us in a bind. That would mean we'd have to give full rights to cores, and those are dangerous! Perhaps a combination of the two?"