Union of Equality and Freedom (OOC Sign-Up and Charter)

[YellowApple]

Form For Full Members
Nation Full Name The Ancient Lands of Rarth
Nation Head of State The One
Nation Head of Government The One
Do you Support Democracy Yes
Type of Government(Monarchy,Republic,etc) Republic
Do you Accept this Charter Yes

I see no problems. Accepted.

[Salvarity]

A Spirean Watcher Declares that the Nation of Apoctis has expressed willingness to destroy Sapient beings for their species and thus recommends that they be expelled from the Union of Equality and Freedom.

Who? What? Where? When? How? Danish?

[Apoctis]

I wanted to be expelled so I asked Crystal to do some big thing, no worries.

[Rarth]

Mostly so I could play this nation.

[Crystal Spires]

Form For Full Members
Nation Full Name The Ancient Lands of Rarth
Nation Head of State The One
Nation Head of Government The One
Do you Support Democracy Yes
Type of Government(Monarchy,Republic,etc) Republic
Do you Accept this Charter Yes

I declare my support for Rarth, and ask that they be accepted.

[Rarth]

To the IC

[Luziyca]

Form For Full Members
Nation Full Name The Christian Republic of Luziyca
Nation Head of State President Breuvi Shjoraski
Nation Head of Government Speaker Michelle Bachmann
Do you Support Democracy Yes, so much that we banned communism and dangerous ideologies, like socialism.
Type of Government(Monarchy,Republic,etc) Republic
Do you Accept this Charter Yes.

[Crystal Spires]

Form For Full Members
Nation Full Name The Christian Republic of Luziyca
Nation Head of State President Breuvi Shjoraski
Nation Head of Government Speaker Michelle Bachmann
Do you Support Democracy Yes, so much that we banned communism and dangerous ideologies, like socialism.
Type of Government(Monarchy,Republic,etc) Republic
Do you Accept this Charter Yes.

Rejected. Those who are against freedom of any kind are rejected. We're the union of Equality and Freedom.

[Salvarity]

Form For Full Members
Nation Full Name The Christian Republic of Luziyca
Nation Head of State President Breuvi Shjoraski
Nation Head of Government Speaker Michelle Bachmann
Do you Support Democracy Yes, so much that we banned communism and dangerous ideologies, like socialism.
Type of Government(Monarchy,Republic,etc) Republic
Do you Accept this Charter Yes.

Rejected. Those who are against freedom of any kind are rejected. We're the union of Equality and Freedom.

Double Rejected. How is Banning Communism and Socialism for Freedom and Democracy. Also since you banned them you did not read the charter. How do you agree with what you have not read.

[The UEG-Space Command]

Will you add me to the OP in the member list?
The Federated Terriam Republic

[Walrusfolk Eurarcta]

Rejected. Those who are against freedom of any kind are rejected. We're the union of Equality and Freedom.

Double Rejected. How is Banning Communism and Socialism for Freedom and Democracy. Also since you banned them you did not read the charter. How do you agree with what you have not read.

Well... based on communism's track record... I suppose one could argue...

But no. Overall, banning any ideology is stupid.

[Crystal Spires]

Well... based on communism's track record... I suppose one could argue... But no. Overall, banning any ideology is stupid.

Crystal Spires are Council Communists you know...

No, Communism hasn't ever actually existed out of the Haymarket Communes, and the Spanish Communes.

[Walrusfolk Eurarcta]

Well... based on communism's track record... I suppose one could argue... But no. Overall, banning any ideology is stupid.

Crystal Spires are Council Communists you know...

No, Communism hasn't ever actually existed out of the Haymarket Communes, and the Spanish Communes.

Yeah, I know.

Right... not wanting to debate any of this, but is it not possible that they are referring to "Popular Communism" instead of "Actual Communism". I'm not agreeing with his argument, just trying to explain where he is coming from.

No matter, banning any ideology for any reason is stupid.

[YellowApple]

Rejected. Those who are against freedom of any kind are rejected. We're the union of Equality and Freedom.

Double Rejected. How is Banning Communism and Socialism for Freedom and Democracy. Also since you banned them you did not read the charter. How do you agree with what you have not read.

Triple rejected. Communism and socialism are not inherently undemocratic, and thus outlawing them entirely is extreme and quite undemocratic.

[Luziyca]

Double Rejected. How is Banning Communism and Socialism for Freedom and Democracy. Also since you banned them you did not read the charter. How do you agree with what you have not read.

Triple rejected. Communism and socialism are not inherently undemocratic, and thus outlawing them entirely is extreme and quite undemocratic.

Yes, they are. Why? See Mao's China, Stalin's USSR, Kim il-Sung's DPRK. Ergo, they are undemocratic.

While yes, OOCly, I support communism, think of it a a tea party USA. And anyways, we follow it, but we have a right to ban things for our national security.

Either way, I will not argue.

[Walrusfolk Eurarcta]

Triple rejected. Communism and socialism are not inherently undemocratic, and thus outlawing them entirely is extreme and quite undemocratic.

Yes, they are. Why? See Mao's China, Stalin's USSR, Kim il-Sung's DPRK. Ergo, they are undemocratic.

While yes, OOCly, I support communism, think of it a a tea party USA. And anyways, we follow it, but we have a right to ban things for our national security.

Either way, I will not argue.

See, while that /might/ be an argument to do that, here one of the joining requirements is that you do not ban any ideology.

[YellowApple]

Triple rejected. Communism and socialism are not inherently undemocratic, and thus outlawing them entirely is extreme and quite undemocratic.

Yes, they are. Why? See Mao's China, Stalin's USSR, Kim il-Sung's DPRK. Ergo, they are undemocratic.

While yes, OOCly, I support communism, think of it a a tea party USA. And anyways, we follow it, but we have a right to ban things for our national security.

Either way, I will not argue.

By that logic, Islam is inherently evil because Al Qaeda and Hezbollah exist, and Christians are imperialist because of the Crusades.

That's quite a thin argument, I say.

[Awan (Ancient)]

Form For Full Members
Nation Full NameThe Principality of Awan
Nation Head of StateKing Alexander XVII
Nation Head of GovernmentPrime Minister Sir James Orlov
Do you Support DemocracyYes
Type of Government(Monarchy,Republic,etc)Constitutional Monarchy
Do you Accept this CharterAll exept for the Homosexual part because in our nation the people in a fair vote decided that it was not a good idea. Also the monarchy has its own set of laws and has always been very sexist. But if you cannot allow us to join then we are happy to ask for observer status. Oh and if we were to have homosexual people then they would have the smae rights as anyone else but our people may start taking the law into their own hands.

[Salvarity]

Form For Full Members
Nation Full NameThe Principality of Awan
Nation Head of StateKing Alexander XVII
Nation Head of GovernmentPrime Minister Sir James Orlov
Do you Support DemocracyYes
Type of Government(Monarchy,Republic,etc)Constitutional Monarchy
Do you Accept this CharterAll exept for the Homosexual part because in our nation the people in a fair vote decided that it was not a good idea. Also the monarchy has its own set of laws and has always been very sexist. But if you cannot allow us to join then we are happy to ask for observer status. Oh and if we were to have homosexual people then they would have the smae rights as anyone else but our people may start taking the law into their own hands.

Tyranny by Majority Rejected

[Aestoria]

To join do I have to be accepted by all three of you or is one acceptance enough?

[Awan (Ancient)]

If my nation can be persuaded to accept homosexuality or it is legalised through parliament then will we be able to join?

[Yorobia]

To join do I have to be accepted by all three of you or is one acceptance enough?

Majority, I think. Bring on another NAY.

[Genama]

Nation Full Name: The Free Land of Genama
Nation Head of State: President Nathan van der Meer
Nation Head of Government: Prime Minister Sophia Clark
Do you Accept Terms of this Charter: Yes
Do you Support Democracy: Yes

Is this for observer status or full membership?

Full membership, looks like I forgot a field for some reason.


Type of Government(Monarchy,Republic,etc) Republic

[YellowApple]

If my nation can be persuaded to accept homosexuality or it is legalised through parliament then will we be able to join?

Yes. Until then, you won't be in line with the Charter and thus will be rejected.

Is this for observer status or full membership?

Full membership, looks like I forgot a field for some reason.


Type of Government(Monarchy,Republic,etc) Republic

Well, you have my vote. Accepted.

To join do I have to be accepted by all three of you or is one acceptance enough?

Majority, I think. Bring on another NAY.

Majority among us three with acceptance power if it's disputed. Otherwise, the one is all that's necessary.

[Awan (Ancient)]

By Christmas our government will have wrangled an agreement and will legalise homosexuality, but wont that mean that the majority of my nation will not be getting what it wants?