The Coalition of Ponyist States (In-character); (UPDATED)

[YellowApple]

What do they exactly eat.

Hm...I guess we can feed them seaponies

We suggest you refrain from the needless execution of Equus sapiens aquaticus.

I, the leader of Datura Grove, would like to ask what exactly Ponyism is.

Ponyism, in the religious context, is a religious faith based upon worship of the Regal Sisters of Equestria (Princess Luna and Princess Celestia) and adherence to the Elements of Harmony in all aspects of life.

Ponyism, in the political context, is a political movement based primarily upon the figurative and philosophical values represented by the Elements of Harmony (Honesty, Loyalty, Kindness, Generosity, Laughter, and Magic) and their implementation in a governmental and socioeconomic system. Spiritual Ponyism is to the Ponyist faith as Sharia Law is to the Muslim faith, basing government policies and laws on Ponyist scripture and teachings, while Secular Ponyism uses the Elements of Harmony as a reference for government policies and laws without specifically following the Ponyist faith nor endorsing worship of the Regal Sisters over the worship of any other deity (or the lack thereof), thus remaining religiously neutral.

[Enatai]

Hm...I guess we can feed them seaponies

We suggest you refrain from the needless execution of Equus sapiens aquaticus.

I, the leader of Datura Grove, would like to ask what exactly Ponyism is.

Ponyism, in the religious context, is a religious faith based upon worship of the Regal Sisters of Equestria (Princess Luna and Princess Celestia) and adherence to the Elements of Harmony in all aspects of life.

Ponyism, in the political context, is a political movement based primarily upon the figurative and philosophical values represented by the Elements of Harmony (Honesty, Loyalty, Kindness, Generosity, Laughter, and Magic) and their implementation in a governmental and socioeconomic system. Spiritual Ponyism is to the Ponyist faith as Sharia Law is to the Muslim faith, basing government policies and laws on Ponyist scripture and teachings, while Secular Ponyism uses the Elements of Harmony as a reference for government policies and laws without specifically following the Ponyist faith nor endorsing worship of the Regal Sisters over the worship of any other deity (or the lack thereof), thus remaining religiously neutral.

Might I add that Secularized Ponyism is the most popular kind. Seems only a few of us (well, only the Greater Pony Herd and of course Enatai itself) are hardline Spiritual Ponyists. At this point the term "Ponyism" conjures up a far more political than spiritual connotation, at least internationally speaking.

Also, some worrying information from "New Freedomstan:"

And all my RP has been consistent with that bill of rights (that's only the first bit) I'd like to know if the leaders of Greater Mackonia guarantee their citizens similar rights. I suspect not, as you've mentioned protests to try and obtain free speech. Perhaps you could explain how Luna is a despot?

How you decide to rule is irrelevant. It's the fact that Ponies and human Ponyists owe some degree of allegiance, it doesn't matter if it is worship or not, is worrying enough for an independent state. And many Ponyists do outright worship you, and your word is taken as commandment. This is an outright threat, and severely Anti-Socialist.

Furthermore, your 'rights' does not extend to humans or any non-Ponies. We cannot have traitors walking in our midst, owing allegiance to foreign rulers and following a set of principles that are incompatible with the necessities of the Socialist Revolution. The idea of Harmony itself is an outright attack on the exploited working class. We need to advance, and to do that we need a Revolution. Harmony is, by it's nature, counterrevolutionary.

Generosity, Laughter, Magic, Honesty, Kindness and Loyalty are nothing but petty-bourgeois ideals used to cement the exploitation of the Proletariat. A Revolution is not Kind to the exploiters. Magic is unscientific and anti-materialist, and thus goes against the very foundations of Scientific Socialism. Generosity has nothing to do with socialism, which is the Proletariat taking the wealth that is ours by right. Honesty merely fetters the Revolution, which sometimes have to work in the dark, for the greater good of all. Loyalty further directly strives against Socialist Revolution, to preserve Societal Harmony.

These principles of Ponyism neither contradicts capitalist exploitation. An exploiter may still consider himself Generous, if he raises the wages (even though the exploiter is still appropriating excess value of the backs of the workers... it's now not as much!). An exploiter may still consider himself Kind, if he is courteous in his dealings. Doesn't change the fact of his economical exploitation of the Proletariat. An exploiter may be Honest... but just because exploitation is honest, doesn't mean it is not exploitation.

The end of it is that Ponyism, through it's nature, seeps into every facet of society. It's status as a political movement, a religion, a philosophy, an ideology and even a species following it's commandments mean it grasps control of society far more than Socialism, Fascism or Capitalism does. It is totalitarian and moralistic, enforcing how people should deal with each other in their daily affairs and struggles. It is theocratic and a religion in it's dealings, in the guise of a political movement. Like an infection, it must be cleansed quickly lest it spreads and corrupts the entire body.

The Brony Kingdom of Enatai protests this bit of slander and libel against Princess Luna. Totalitarian? Moralistic? Theocratic? Are these not the proper terms, too, for carrying out an agenda of statism which is religious in scope? I say they merely want to replace one form of benevolent rule with another, one with less honesty and integrity in its admittance of how much power must be taken. They have spit on Ponyism without just cause.

[Muffinvania]

Muffnvania refuses to give an opinion on religous matters of it's citizens or those citizens of the esteemed member,observer and protector nations and begs the Coalition to move on to a different topic.

- Prime Minister GingerSnap

[Aethrys]

The People's Republic of Aethrys notes with alarm the swiftness of the outrage expressed by member nations at criticism directed towards the rulers of the theocracy of the greater pony herd, and further notes the unsettling anti-socialist bent of certain member nations, leading us to the conclusion that the Hippostanian facists are not alone in this organization.

- Ambassador Chekov, Observer for the Aetherian Proletarian Council.

[Urmanian]

The People's Republic of Aethrys notes with alarm the swiftness of the outrage expressed by member nations at criticism directed towards the rulers of the theocracy of the greater pony herd, and further notes the unsettling anti-socialist bent of certain member nations, leading us to the conclusion that the Hippostanian facists are not alone in this organization.

- Ambassador Chekov, Observer for the Aetherian Proletarian Council.

"Oh by Celestia's beard, I see nothing wrong with the Herd being a theocracy. I know that the first thing you people think of when you hear "theocracy" is a bunch of weird-looking bearded people in funny hats speaking in weird voices and killing anypony who doesn't listen to them but let me assure you that the GPH is nothing of the sort. And anti-socialist bent of certain member nations? What do you mean, exactly?"

-Sterling Silver, the GPH's representative in CoPS

[Behntasha]

I like it how the more socially progressive nature of nations like Behntasha--fully embracing mild socialism--are completely overlooked because we have two (count em, 2!) theocracies and maybe two or three others who don't like communists.

Amazing isn't it?

In any case... New Freedomstan's position on our coalition is disturbing to say the least. I hope that further investigation reveals any malicious intents soon. Which I think won't be too long from when the investigations start.

[Crystal Spires]

"We're downright communists. They know it. We of Crystal Spires do not understand their intent as the existence of religious theocracy does not necessarily mean an authoritarian dictatorship." Maven said with a cough.

[Urmanian]

"We of Crystal Spires do not understand their intent as the existence of religious theocracy does not necessarily mean an authoritarian dictatorship." Maven said with a cough.

"This" - Sterling Silver nodded. - "Everypony knows that the GPH is one of the freest countries out there, so what if we have an Inquisition even though it dubs itself as a theocracy."

[Saurisisia]

"We of Crystal Spires do not understand their intent as the existence of religious theocracy does not necessarily mean an authoritarian dictatorship." Maven said with a cough.

"This" - Sterling Silver nodded. - "Everypony knows that the GPH is one of the freest countries out there, so what if we have an Inquisition even though it dubs itself as a theocracy."

"Quite so," Andron Blacktip agreed, "just because a nation isn't democratic doesn't instantly make them a tyrannical nightmare. Take Saurisia, for instance. We're not truly Democratic, yet we're quite free, freer than some wholly Democratic states, anyway."

[Crystal Spires]

"Democracy is afterall a tyranny of the majority prefaced on the ideals of utilitarianism which may or may not be a moral way of handling a situation. After all there are many nations who vote to enslave and kill other races democratically and as the majority agrees it is done. It does not make them just as the Just God prescribes. Humane and Civil Rights must take precedent.NOBODY EXPECTS AN INQUISITION! plus... Crystal Spires is not Majority Ponyist so that puts us on the list of uh oh...don't bring the pony inquistion oh no... AAaaaaagh... " Maven said as he poured his herbal tea.

[Urmanian]

NOBODY EXPECTS AN INQUISITION! plus... Crystal Spires is not Majority Ponyist so that puts us on the list of uh oh...don't bring the pony inquistion oh no... AAaaaaagh...

[Behntasha]

While we respect your opinions, we find that a government is endorsed by it's people and thus needs to be representative of the people. That being said, we don't let them choose *directly* on every matter, and have legal safeguards for minorities. A republican system just works best here; we may always get it right, but we haven't strayed far off course for equality and prosperity either. Ignoring an imploded economy

That being said, we need to love and tolerate our respective government differences. Unity in diversity...
Even though at times certain nations and their actions cough GPH cough cause some Behntashan ministers to lose their sleep.

[Crystal Spires]

"We have little to say with regards to that because we're a Democratic nation. We found ourselves on the values of representative democracy, and we value the needs of a diverse society." Maven said as he dipped sugar cubes in his tea. "However we do understand that there are a lot of individual ponyist states that do indeed have a bit of trouble and run the risk of becoming an authoritarian fascist state, and they're less likely to embrace religious ponyism." Maven looked at Hippostania and sipped his tea.

[The Papal City]

OOC: So how many ayes does one need to be accepted?

[Yorobia]

OOC: So how many ayes does one need to be accepted?

Who knows

[Crux Prime]

NOBODY EXPECTS AN INQUISITION! plus... Crystal Spires is not Majority Ponyist so that puts us on the list of uh oh...don't bring the pony inquistion oh no... AAaaaaagh...

Oh my god.

[Yorobia]

Oh my god.

ahhhh

[Hippostania]

Oh my god.

ahhhh

I really recommend that you stop posting one-word messages and messages with nothing but one or two smileys like this.. A mod might get pissed at you :/

[Crux Prime]

ahhhh

I really recommend that you stop posting one-word messages and messages with nothing but one or two smileys like this.. A mod might get pissed at you :/

Frak the mods.

[Yorobia]

I really recommend that you stop posting one-word messages and messages with nothing but one or two smileys like this.. A mod might get pissed at you :/

Frak the mods.

Let us pretend nothing happened and let us get back to business.

[Muffinvania]

Muffinvania is pleased to announce that the Security Council has been officially founded by her ladyship!

- Prime Minister GingerSnap

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=149778

[Yorobia]

Muffinvania is pleased to announce that the Security Council has been officially founded by her ladyship!

- Prime Minister GingerSnap

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=149778

The Security Council begins and nations representatives rush into the building.

[Savski Venac]

The Peoples Federative Republic of Savski Venac
Народная Союная Республъика Савскоя Веннаций
Народна савезна Република Савски Венац

Savski Venac WA Ambassador
Амбасадор Савског Венца у WA
Савски Вenac WA посол

Savski Venac des not suport the condemation of Ponyist nations nor does the condemation of pony people and ponyisim.Yes the nations suppres the regime of men but does that tell us anything.We need more respect to the pony people they were treated as scum and as a lower race.We see the condemation against ponyisim as an act of racisim.Savski Venac is a member of the Coalition against Ponyist states but we will withdraw from it.

Savski Venac Minister of Foreign Affairs
Министар Спољних Послова Савског Венца
Савски Venac министра иностранных дел
Vasko Popa

[Homelands our]

Name of State:Homelands our
Number of Ponies Living Withing Your State:1,000,000
Do Ponies Act As a Major Part of Your Nation's Economy or Military?:25,000 ponies are in our military
Do Ponies Have Equal Rights in Your Nation?:they have more than humans
What position would you like to apply for? (Observer/Protector/Member):Member

[Lubyak]

Name of State:Homelands our
Number of Ponies Living Withing Your State:1,000,000
Do Ponies Act As a Major Part of Your Nation's Economy or Military?:25,000 ponies are in our military
Do Ponies Have Equal Rights in Your Nation?:they have more than humans
What position would you like to apply for? (Observer/Protector/Member):Member

The Dominion would like to ask WHY ponies have greater rights than humans within your state. More importantly, what do these 'greater rights' entail?