The Coalition of Ponyist States (In-character); (UPDATED)

[Urmanian]

"The fact is that Red Baron IS Bwitain's government." - Sterling Silver noted. - "Also what about these 36%? What if innocents were murdered?"

[YellowApple]

The doors of the assembly opened and a female earth pony was escorted into the chambers with the help of a Unicorn bodyguard she was a teal and her mane and tale were a mixture of dark and light greens, she also wore a pair of simple sun glasses and from the way she leaned against the bodygaurd it was clear she was blind, "I appologize for Muffinvanias absence from this assembly, I shall be taking the place of both her ladyship and Prime Minister GingerSnap, I am Ms. WaterLily of the foreign affairs office, I hope to get to know you all better" WaterLily sat down and listened to the conversations going on trying to catch up.

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"Salutations, madam," Bastion noted with a polite smile. "Would you care for some tea?"

[The Republic of Lanos]

"The fact is that Red Baron IS Bwitain's government." - Sterling Silver noted. - "Also what about these 36%? What if innocents were murdered?"

Appartently, their murder is excused in the name of justice.

[Crystal Spires]

"36%...That is indeed a largely concerning number. We should investigate those people who were killed and see for ourselves if Red Baron may have gone beyond his means and went too far. I have no problem if those he executed were slavers, but if there was an innocent person within those numbers, it makes it a miscarriage of justice. We approve of an investigation, but not a condemnation."

Maven saw WaterLily and gave a polite bow as he put his fist to his heart still with a bit of a stiff and angered expression.

High Chancellor Maven Auryn

Leader of Crystal Spires

[Behntasha]

"In this case, I will continue being OUTRAGED by your nation's insistence on murder as a solution. The Behntashan Parliament will be called to determine the proper response to Super Bwitain, including possible economic sanctions against your nation."

Marliana took a moment to calm down before nodding to WaterLily. "I wish we could have met while a lighter subject was being debated, but pleased to meet you nevertheless."

[Muffinvania]

The doors of the assembly opened and a female earth pony was escorted into the chambers with the help of a Unicorn bodyguard she was a teal and her mane and tale were a mixture of dark and light greens, she also wore a pair of simple sun glasses and from the way she leaned against the bodygaurd it was clear she was blind, "I appologize for Muffinvanias absence from this assembly, I shall be taking the place of both her ladyship and Prime Minister GingerSnap, I am Ms. WaterLily of the foreign affairs office, I hope to get to know you all better" WaterLily sat down and listened to the conversations going on trying to catch up.

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"Salutations, madam," Bastion noted with a polite smile. "Would you care for some tea?"

"Oh, thank you no that is very kind of you, I'm quite alright" WaterLily stood up and said in a firm but also gentle tone, " Muffinvania has no written policy on slavery because it's citizens really do not believe in it...Muffinvanians are a hard working group of ponies and people who could not fathom others doing the work for them, as such I must mak it clear in our opinion that slavery is seemingly a disgusting practice as is the slaughtering of alleged slavers who may or may not be actual criminals...Muffinvania is dissapointed with the actions of Super Bwitain and must support a condemnation of those acts."

[Celritannia]

Octavius, sat there, his cheek resting on his gloved palms, his leg resting onto of the other and looking around the room.

"Honorable representatives, surely by acting in a mannor unfit for a coalition that believes in the idea of friendship, should argue in a chamber that shouldbe supporting one and other?

In the Grand Empire, there is no slavery, and we do not promote slavery, and we hardly agree with it, but we do not believe in interfering with a nation thats has had a practice for centuries.

I'm sure many slavers treat there slaves in a kind manner, but killing the slavers for justice is against all morality, as is beheading an entire Royal Family for tyranny, or being convicted of murder for ending a life of a serial killer.

Violence only leads to further violence, thus no peace, no friendship, and no so such furture, just killing in the name of 'Justice' which is different for every person."

He paused and looked up.

"Is this chamber going to end in chaos? are we to go agaist the principles and ideas of friendship? If so, I must request the topic of slavery to be banned, no nation should dictate the laws of another unless it effect their nation in a political or economical way, before this chamber forgets the principle and ideal of friendship."

[Saurisisia]

The doors of the assembly opened and a female earth pony was escorted into the chambers with the help of a Unicorn bodyguard she was a teal and her mane and tale were a mixture of dark and light greens, she also wore a pair of simple sun glasses and from the way she leaned against the bodygaurd it was clear she was blind, "I appologize for Muffinvanias absence from this assembly, I shall be taking the place of both her ladyship and Prime Minister GingerSnap, I am Ms. WaterLily of the foreign affairs office, I hope to get to know you all better" WaterLily sat down and listened to the conversations going on trying to catch up.

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Andron sighed and shook his head again, the very thought that a leader of a CoPS nation would be willing to commit mass murder and that the leader of another CoPS nation condoned such acts in the name of "justice" made him want to drink. And to think, Maven argued about the Elements of Harmony and true Ponyism during the Shrill Crusade and now he seemed to overlook the Element of Kindness.

He noticed the new ambassador for Muffinvania walk in, causing him to look at her and say, "Welcome, Ambassador. I am afraid you have arrived at an unfortunate time for us."

[The Republic of Lanos]

It seems there is a general consenus on the topic at hand. What course of action should we take?

[Muffinvania]

Andron sighed and shook his head again, the very thought that a leader of a CoPS nation would be willing to commit mass murder and that the leader of another CoPS nation condoned such acts in the name of "justice" made him want to drink. And to think, Maven argued about the Elements of Harmony and true Ponyism during the Shrill Crusade and now he seemed to overlook the Element of Kindness.

He noticed the new ambassador for Muffinvania walk in, causing him to look at her and say, "Welcome, Ambassador. I am afraid you have arrived at an unfortunate time for us."

WaterLily smiled and tilted hr head toward to Saurisisia delegation, "Oh, when isn't politics on the edge of some unfortunate thing?...or even right smack dab in the middle of it!" WaterLily giggled, and took out a small recorder and whispered into it which seemed to be the way she was taking notes.

[Crystal Spires]

"PAH! And people call me naive! What makes capital punishment different from execution done on behalf of justice? This state monopolization of force only exists if they serve the interests of the people and justice. If they fail to exercise the interests of the people, a revolution occurs because the state has failed. This is the truth of the world. The fact that Red Baron had to do what was the State's job makes it a marked failure of the State's exercise of justice making it corrupt, and we who know of the dangers of Corruption more than anyone else know that the sentence for Corruption and Betrayal of the people is death. Those who believe it is an abridging of kindness to kill slavers overlook that fact that slavery is itself the most unkind thing that can be done to an individual. You take away the individual's right to their own bodily sovereignty, nay, you could take their very life if it was demanded, because the individual is property."

High Chancellor Maven Auryn

Leader of Crystal Spires

[Super Bwitain]

"In this case, I will continue being OUTRAGED by your nation's insistence on murder as a solution. The Behntashan Parliament will be called to determine the proper response to Super Bwitain, including possible economic sanctions against your nation."

Marliana took a moment to calm down before nodding to WaterLily. "I wish we could have met while a lighter subject was being debated, but pleased to meet you nevertheless."

Economic sanctions against an entire nation due to the actions of one pony, hardly seems proper. Jasper said

[Urmanian]

It seems there is a general consenus on the topic at hand. What course of action should we take?

"We should condemn Super Bwitain for mass state-sanctioned murder or condemn ourselves and Maven Auryn first and foremost for being hypocrites and doing the same in the Crux Prime and Shrill scenarios but instantly forgetting about kindness when it's slavers who are targetted!" - Sterling Silver said.

[Saurisisia]

Andron sighed and shook his head again, the very thought that a leader of a CoPS nation would be willing to commit mass murder and that the leader of another CoPS nation condoned such acts in the name of "justice" made him want to drink. And to think, Maven argued about the Elements of Harmony and true Ponyism during the Shrill Crusade and now he seemed to overlook the Element of Kindness.

He noticed the new ambassador for Muffinvania walk in, causing him to look at her and say, "Welcome, Ambassador. I am afraid you have arrived at an unfortunate time for us."

WaterLily smiled and tilted hr head toward to Saurisisia delegation, "Oh, when isn't politics on the edge of some unfortunate thing?...or even right smack dab in the middle of it!" WaterLily giggled, and took out a small recorder and whispered into it which seemed to be the way she was taking notes.

"Nope, true," Andron smiled a bit while nodding. He then said quietly, "Such is the nature of politics..."

It seems there is a general consenus on the topic at hand. What course of action should we take?

The Dragon looked up at the Lanosian ambassador and, with a determined look in his eyes, said, "The answer is clear: Red Baron must be condemned for his crime and his ignoring the Elements of Harmony, particularly that of Kindness."

[YellowApple]

Maven saw WaterLily and gave a polite bow as he put his fist to his heart still with a bit of a stiff and angered expression.

"High Chancellor Auryn, is everything satisfactory?"

Bastion noted the signs of a heart attack, and immediately proceeded to Maven to ascertain his condition.

[Muffinvania]

WaterLily stood, "Muffinvania supports the condemnation of Super Bwitain if the actions of that one man are the actions of the Head of said nation's state, that MUST be taken into account and to the honorable member of Crystal Spires, I would like to make it known that Muffinvania has no capital punishment..."

[The Republic of Lanos]

It seems there is a general consenus on the topic at hand. What course of action should we take?

"We should condemn Super Bwitain for mass state-sanctioned murder or condemn ourselves and Maven Auryn first and foremost for being hypocrites and doing the same in the Crux Prime and Shrill scenarios but instantly forgetting about kindness when it's slavers who are targetted!" - Sterling Silver said.

I say that you write the condemnation proposal. And Maven, dare say. If he had instead ordered his police forces to crack down and free the slaves instead of murdering the slavers, would you be singing praises?

[Behntasha]

"PAH! And people call me naive! What makes capital punishment different from execution done on behalf of justice? This state monopolization of force only exists if they serve the interests of the people and justice. If they fail to exercise the interests of the people, a revolution occurs because the state has failed. This is the truth of the world. The fact that Red Baron had to do what was the State's job makes it a marked failure of the State's exercise of justice making it corrupt, and we who know of the dangers of Corruption more than anyone else know that the sentence for Corruption and Betrayal of the people is death. Those who believe it is an abridging of kindness to kill slavers overlook that fact that slavery is itself the most unkind thing that can be done to an individual. You take away the individual's right to their own bodily sovereignty, nay, you could take their very life if it was demanded, because the individual is property."

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High Chancellor Maven Auryn

Leader of Crystal Spires

"And I suppose the state always represents the interests of the people, meaning, all people? Not just the ruling elite? Not just the majority?" Marliana shook her head. "I must say, although neither action is kind, I do not find justification in Super Bwitain's response, nor your justifications. I further approve condemning Red Baron.

Economic sanctions against an entire nation due to the actions of one pony, hardly seems proper. Jasper said

"One pony, apparently, has the power to kill millions. You've invested power in him, and we will hold you responsible to his actions, even if only done unilaterally."

[Crystal Spires]

"I am no hypocrite as my positions are very clear. The Slavery in question was illegally practiced and the ones who were killed were mostly guilty. The only crime in question are those who were not yet convicted for their crimes, and I will not condemn Super Bwitain for the acts of Red Baron, and I think the calls to condemn them are ludicrous. As for me, condemn me if you will. I regret nothing. Killing slavers is just, and is a crime punishable by death in my lands, I believe it is fitting for other nations to do the same, but your cowardly acts which overlook the unkindness of slavery and how it violates and spits on the elements of Harmony is despicable. And if the police had been doing the acts, yes if he had his police crack down and free the slaves instead of murdering the slavers I would be even happier."

High Chancellor Maven Auryn

Leader of Crystal Spires

[Urmanian]

"Heresy is a crime in my lands, yet we condemned and acted against Shrill inquisition." - Sterling Silver noted.

[Super Bwitain]

"I invested power in him before I found out that he was fucking insane, now if you'll excuse me I'm going back to the Imperium to deal with something one of my guards will be the delegate, adios" Jasper then left

[Muffinvania]

"I am no hypocrite as my positions are very clear. The Slavery in question was illegally practiced and the ones who were killed were mostly guilty. The only crime in question are those who were not yet convicted for their crimes, and I will not condemn Super Bwitain for the acts of Red Baron, and I think the calls to condemn them are ludicrous. As for me, condemn me if you will. I regret nothing. Killing slavers is just, and is a crime punishable by death in my lands, I believe it is fitting for other nations to do the same, but your cowardly acts which overlook the unkindness of slavery and how it violates and spits on the elements of Harmony is despicable. And if the police had been doing the acts, yes if he had his police crack down and free the slaves instead of murdering the slavers I would be even happier."

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High Chancellor Maven Auryn

Leader of Crystal Spires

WaterLily stood, "I would like to make it clear that the High Chancellor of Crystal Spires in approving of the murder of civilians who are innocent until proven guilty...just so that the few who were true criminals could be killed."

[The Republic of Lanos]

"I am no hypocrite as my positions are very clear. The Slavery in question was illegally practiced and the ones who were killed were mostly guilty. The only crime in question are those who were not yet convicted for their crimes, and I will not condemn Super Bwitain for the acts of Red Baron, and I think the calls to condemn them are ludicrous. As for me, condemn me if you will. I regret nothing. Killing slavers is just, and is a crime punishable by death in my lands, I believe it is fitting for other nations to do the same, but your cowardly acts which overlook the unkindness of slavery and how it violates and spits on the elements of Harmony is despicable. And if the police had been doing the acts, yes if he had his police crack down and free the slaves instead of murdering the slavers I would be even happier."

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High Chancellor Maven Auryn

Leader of Crystal Spires

Then while you can let murder of 36% of those not even convicted go, we won't. My nation has capital punishment but we only apply it to those convicted. This is state sanctioned murder beyond the pale. While you could be executed for slavery in Lanos, you will be if you commit such mass murder. If our government tried to do that, the military would have overthrown the national government for becoming unconstitutional and have restored democracy because of such a henious crime.

Freedom over tyranny.

[Lubyak]

Official Communique from the Dominion of the Lubyak
Adressed to the Coalition of Ponyist States
Encrypted: NONE

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The Dominion of the Lubyak remains neutral on the question of anti-slavery violence in Super Bwitain.

While we can not help but approve of action taken to limit human trafficking and forced labour, the Dominion feels that the actions of Super Bwitain go too far, and equate to mass murder.

The use of one crime to punish another is not something that we smile upon. It is why vigilantism is not considered a virtue in almost any nation.

However, since the delegate from Super Bwitain claims that the actions of his government were the responsibility of one being, the Dominion would recommend the extradition of said being for a trial in a neutral location.

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Sincerely,
Representative to CoPS, Storm Cloud
Representative to CoPS, Joseph Octavian

[Super Bwitain]

"I am no hypocrite as my positions are very clear. The Slavery in question was illegally practiced and the ones who were killed were mostly guilty. The only crime in question are those who were not yet convicted for their crimes, and I will not condemn Super Bwitain for the acts of Red Baron, and I think the calls to condemn them are ludicrous. As for me, condemn me if you will. I regret nothing. Killing slavers is just, and is a crime punishable by death in my lands, I believe it is fitting for other nations to do the same, but your cowardly acts which overlook the unkindness of slavery and how it violates and spits on the elements of Harmony is despicable. And if the police had been doing the acts, yes if he had his police crack down and free the slaves instead of murdering the slavers I would be even happier."

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High Chancellor Maven Auryn

Leader of Crystal Spires

Then while you can let murder of 36% of those not even convicted go, we won't. My nation has capital punishment but we only apply it to those convicted. This is state sanctioned murder beyond the pale. While you could be executed for slavery in Lanos, you will be if you commit such mass murder. If our government tried to do that, the military would have overthrown the national government for becoming unconstitutional and have restored democracy because of such a henious crime.

Freedom over tyranny.

"Jasper never said that all 36% were killed". He guard said