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An Inquiry into the Pony Question [OPEN]

Postby Knootoss » Sat Oct 15, 2011 12:23 pm

~ The Parliamentary Inquiry ~


The "Parliamentary inquiry into the Pony Question" has the purpose of finding out the 'true nature' of the so-called "magical ponies", and assessing potential threats and opportunities for the Dutch Democratic Republic of Knootoss and its allies. The committee of inquiry will make policy suggestions for dealing with the 'magical ponies', and the nations controlled by them.

A Knootian parliamentary inquiry is called for by a majority of the parliament, the Staten-Generaal, to obtain information. A Committee of Inquiry carries out this assignment. By law, anyone in Knootoss is obligated to cooperate to the best of their ability with the committee of inquiry. Witnesses can be heard under oath, and witnesses are compelled to answer all questions to the best of their ability.

Alongside domestic Knootian experts, foreign experts and representatives of the "magical ponies" are being called to testify as well. Foreigners who are called to testify have their expenses for travel and lodging compensated. Their security is also guaranteed for the duration of their stay in Knootoss.

~ New: The Committee of Inquiry Findings ~

Weeks of additional hearings featured many Knootian "experts", such as they were, weighing in on the issue. The final document was 600 pages long but, thankfully, summarised on the first page:

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Executive summary:

The Parliamentary inquiry into the Pony Question was approved by the Staten-Generaal in response to growing concerns about the advancement of a newly dominant, and apparently sentient, species. The Staten-Generaal charged the Honourable Member Maurits Viljoen, the Honourable Member Jeremy Jules Bastaard and the Honourable Member Francis de La Court to find out the true nature of the creatures known in common parlance "magical ponies", to assess potential threats and opportunities for the Dutch Democratic Republic of Knootoss and its allies, and to make policy suggestions for dealing with the 'magical ponies', and the nations controlled by them.

With regards to the first question, the Committee of Inquiry finds that "magical ponies" consist of at least three sub-species of fully sentient creatures, capable of making informed decisions and being accountable for those decisions. The committee also finds that magical ponies are capable of both moral and immoral decision-making. Although some magical ponies claim to have a moral superiority and increased sensibility, the actions of other ponies demonstrate that there is no reason to suppose that any member of this species is inherently well-intentioned or, for that matter, ethically above reproach.

Although some members of the pony races have abilities that are extraordinary compared to those abilities possessed by humans and other species that are known to inhabit Knootoss, these abilities can be readily explained through scientific principles, particularly the unique physiology of rare members of the species. The committee rejects the hypothesis that these creatures use super-natural abilities, and further rejects the hypothesis that ponies are merely a figment of the imagination precipitated by some virus.

Having investigated the religious creeds that are being promoted by "ponyist" states and non-pony adherents, the Committee of Inquiry finds that the beliefs espoused by the believers have no more merit than those beliefs practiced by any citizen of Knootoss. While the committee notes, with concern, the cult-like tendencies involved with the religion, as well as the way that it seems to fuel aggressive military conquest in some adherents, the religion lacks a formalised hierarchical structure. Princess Luna, to whom many have ascribed the status of demi-goddess, does not seem willing to exploit the adulation of the masses to its logical conclusion at this time.

The above-average physiological abilities of magical ponies, their apparent political dominance in a growing number of nations and their tendency to operate as a single unit for political purposes constitutes a clear and present threat to the security of Knootoss. However, there is no reason to suppose that the leadership of the magical ponies, collectively, harbours any intentions to threaten the Knootian Federation, the Western Atlantic, or Knootian national interests outside these regions. It is reasonable to suppose that restrictive legislation or hostile action against pony-led nations will provoke military action by the Coalition of Ponyist States.

Trade with "ponyist" states has significant advantages. A large consumer base, receptivity to Knootian exports and a willingness to negotiate free trade agreements all suggest that a policy of open trade could promote economic growth in Knootoss and the states of the Knootian Federation. Similarly, the Committee of Inquiry finds that highly skilled pony migrant workers could fulfil unique niches in the labour market, and enhance economic growth. However, the committee notes that trade with the specific nations of Hippostania and the Greater Pony Herd is incompatible with the demands of an ethical Foreign Economic Policy.

Policy recommendations

Based on the above findings, the committee makes the following recommendations:

  • The subspecies of "magical pony" should be treated as sentient beings under the law, and afforded all the rights and duties associated therewith. This includes the rights and duties afforded to them by international treaties and World Assembly resolutions.
  • Knootoss should permit adherents of the pony religion to practice their faith, but permit the national intelligence agencies to monitor any practitioners who show serious evidence of having developed a willingness to use violence against non-adherents or non-ponies.
  • The government of Knootoss should observe a benign state of neutrality towards the Coalition of Ponyist States, unless its vital national interests come to be threatened by any of their members. In such an event, every effort should be made to treat conflict as a disagreement between states, and not as a disagreement between races. Knootoss should only resort to an alliance with so-called "anti-ponyist" alliances in the event that the Coalition of Ponyist States invokes collective self-defence clauses, in order to act aggressively against Knootian national interests.
  • The government should develop non-conventional countermeasures, to counter pony abilities and create a level playing field in the military arena. The Budget Committee of the Staten-Generaal should appropriate the necessary resources for this purpose. Such countermeasures should remain classified, and only shared with outsiders in the event of a significant threat to Knootian national interests.
  • Knootoss should pursue free trade agreements with all nations of the Coalition of Ponyist states, unless other concerns related to the policies of individual nations make such agreements undesirable.
  • Knootoss should continue its present restrictive policies vis a vis the illegal government of Hippostania.

This government communication has been printed on biodegradable paper. All carbon emissions associated with the creation of this government communication have been off-set with new plantings in Colombia, using the Pink Bunny Tree™ Carbon Offset Scheme, sponsored by the Pink Bunny Cola Corporation and the Global Hell Group. For more information about the Pink Bunny Tree™ Carbon Offset Scheme, consult http://www.futureproof.kn.


OOC: Conclusions reached! Feel free to comment.
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Postby Princess Luna » Sat Oct 15, 2011 12:50 pm

Given the hostility of some elements of Knootian society to our kind, and the demonstratable weakness of Knootian internal security to terrorist threats, as shown by the lamentable assassination of Stefan Staats MP by Iesusian criminals. We must be certain that Knootoss will accept and cooperate with the deployment of an Enhanced Security Detail in order to facilitate her Highness's security during her stay.
~ Captain-General Stormin', Her Highness' Night Guard

CO Princess Luna
XO Trixie, Special Apprentice to Her Highness
2 armored hover limousines

HQ company
150 political aides, 5 Lunar, 145 C’tani
1 chef and four cooks
1 doctor and two medical staff
3 vehicles
3 gravitic mini-buses

A company (strategic operations)
50 national security advisers and staff, C’tani & Lunar
3 grav vehicles
6 grav buses

B company (personal security)
CO Captain-General Stormin
XO Lady Othri
16 Night Guard Ponies
100 Lychguard Necrons
25 Triarch Praetorians
20 Deathmark Necrons (Counter-Sniper Duty; Contingent Hyperspatial Deployment)
10 Ghost Ark APCs
4 Monoliths

C company (movement security)
CO Lord Othrenek, Necron
XO Cryptek Thelrana
100 Necron Warriors
4 Tomb Stalkers
20 Tomb Spyders
Classified (large) number of scarabs.
20 Ghost Ark APCs

D company (scout dog)
30 personnel with 15 sensor dog-drones
2 Ghost Arks

E company (operations support)
200 specialists from government departments
4 armored transports

Attached

Airspace component

Imperial Necrontyr Vessel Ranavenus, Nightingale-class Eranaiarniti pattern heavy frigate
4 Grave Class shuttles.
2 Squadrons Combat Air Patrol (Rotating, Based INS Sataissasha High Orbit)

OOCness: Fun fact; this is actually reduced from the hilarious amount of security the POTUS takes places.
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Postby Lubyak » Sat Oct 15, 2011 1:02 pm

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VILJOEN, M: Welcome, welcome! I do hope you had a good trip. As you probably know already, I am the renowned adventurer and people's representative Maurits Viljoen. :: PAUSES TO SMILE AT CAMERA 3 :: Would you care to share with this committee who you are, and what it is you do?

ROMANOV: I am Justicar Jacobus Romanov of the Dominion of the Lubyak. I am a senior member of the Judiciary, the Dominion's primary internal intelligence service, and I hold a seat within the National Congress. My credentials can be forwarded to your government at your request.

VILJOEN, M: Now for the oath. Please raise your right hand and repeat after me: "I will speak the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. This I promise."

ROMANOV: I will speak the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. This I promise.

DE LA COURT, F: For the record, please tell us the true nature and origins of the so-called "magical ponies", in your opinion. Where do they come from? Are they creatures of God? Do they have souls?

ROMANOV: I do not believe in God, nor do I believe in souls. However, I can inform you that historical records indicate that the first ponies arrived within the Dominion from the Pony Principality of Magical Equestria to our geographic East. Our own map can be acessed very easily though our online Factbook if the commitee so pleases.

In a similar light, a detailed description of ponies within the Dominion can be found within our factbook. However, in general the reports from the Ministy of the Interior have been amazing. Pony agricultural methods have vastly improved profitability over human run farms, and the skill sets of individual ponies is simply astounding. The Dominion has conducted its own research into the nature of what the ponies have described as their innate 'magic', and while we have yet to determine a cause, the effects of this 'magic' is something that we can not deny.

BASTAARD, JJ: Esteemed committee. Members of the public. We have gathered here today to unravel the dark depths behind a vast, inhuman conspiracy against the people of Knootoss. There are truths to be exposed and I, Jeremy Bastaard, intend to be the one to share them with you. My first question for this witness. :: POINTS AT THE WITNESS :: ... is as follows. What is the pony plan for world domination, and how do their secret mind control techniques work?!

ROMANOV: ::BLINKS SLOWLY FOR A FEW SEONCDS:: Excuse me? The ponies within the Dominion have proved their loyalty to the Dominion through service in our military, and many have begun the journey through the civil service structure to postions of great power. Their is no 'secret mind control' going on here at all.

Additionally, while individual pony nations may have their dreams of territorial conquest, their is no ponyist plan for world domination. The Coalition of Ponyist States is merely an alliance for the protection of the pony species around the world against such nations that would see their rights stripped, and the Coalition holds itself to the ideals of the Elements of Harmony.

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Postby Knootoss » Sat Oct 15, 2011 1:15 pm

Princess Luna wrote:Given the hostility of some elements of Knootian society to our kind, and the demonstratable weakness of Knootian internal security to terrorist threats, as shown by the lamentable assassination of Stefan Staats MP by Iesusian criminals. We must be certain that Knootoss will accept and cooperate with the deployment of an Enhanced Security Detail in order to facilitate her Highness's security during her stay.
~ Captain-General Stormin', Her Highness' Night Guard

CO Princess Luna
XO Trixie, Special Apprentice to Her Highness
2 armored hover limousines

HQ company
150 political aides, 5 Lunar, 145 C’tani
1 chef and four cooks
1 doctor and two medical staff
3 vehicles
3 gravitic mini-buses

A company (strategic operations)
50 national security advisers and staff, C’tani & Lunar
3 grav vehicles
6 grav buses

B company (personal security)
CO Captain-General Stormin
XO Lady Othri
16 Night Guard Ponies
100 Lychguard Necrons
25 Triarch Praetorians
20 Deathmark Necrons (Counter-Sniper Duty; Contingent Hyperspatial Deployment)
10 Ghost Ark APCs
4 Monoliths

C company (movement security)
CO Lord Othrenek, Necron
XO Cryptek Thelrana
100 Necron Warriors
4 Tomb Stalkers
20 Tomb Spyders
Classified (large) number of scarabs.
20 Ghost Ark APCs

D company (scout dog)
30 personnel with 15 sensor dog-drones
2 Ghost Arks

E company (operations support)
200 specialists from government departments
4 armored transports

Attached

Airspace component

Imperial Necrontyr Vessel Ranavenus, Nightingale-class Eranaiarniti pattern heavy frigate
4 Grave Class shuttles.
2 Squadrons Combat Air Patrol (Rotating, Based INS Sataissasha High Orbit)

OOCness: Fun fact; this is actually reduced from the hilarious amount of security the POTUS takes places.


Knootoss can accommodate the civilian staff requested by Her Highness Princess Luna, but not the military units. The absence of a treaty that regulates military cooperation and the disruption of traffic in the Capital City does not permit us to accept this offer. However, as the excessive security outlay is motivated by a distrust of Knootians and humankind, I am making an alternative offer. The Knighty Order of the Poison Rose of Praksa, a highly trained and equipped non-human unit, has offered to provide security for Her Highness.
~ Staten-Generaal Security


OOC: Let's not have a whole exchange of letters clutter up the thread, since I didn't really want RSVP. I'd really like for this thread to focus on the inquiry. If the offer above is not acceptable, let's talk this out OOC. If it does work for you, or we reach an agreement about security off-screen, I hope to have a testimony post from Princess Luna after this.
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Postby Behntasha » Sat Oct 15, 2011 1:47 pm

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VILJOEN, M: Welcome, welcome! I do hope you had a good trip. As you probably know already, I am the renowned adventurer and people's representative Maurits Viljoen. :: PAUSES TO SMILE AT CAMERA 3 :: Would you care to share with this committee who you are, and what it is you do?

Umayama: I am Minami Umayama, the Minister of International Relations of the Social Democratic Union of Behntasha. Prior to this, I was the Head of the Behntashan Parliament's largest opposition party, the Liberté Party. After the end of Behntasha's policy of political isolation on October 1st, 2011, I was nominated to handle all foreign affairs, to provide all official statements abroad, and to establish embassies with our neighboring states.

VILJOEN, M: Now for the oath. Please raise your right hand and repeat after me: "I will speak the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. This I promise."

Umayama: I will speak the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. This I promise.

DE LA COURT, F: For the record, please tell us the true nature and origins of the so-called "magical ponies", in your opinion. Where do they come from? Are they creatures of God? Do they have souls?

Umayama: Our pony population is unique for being largely indigenous to our country, especially around Phenom Poni and Apurujakku. Though we originally existed as several different kingdoms, and have had numerous tensions in the past, the Rainbow Revolution of 1724 against respective kings and queens required a tremendous cooperative effort between humans and ponies across the region. After the end of the Revolution in 1732, all the states who participated in this revolution sent delegates to a regional convention, where by popular vote all nations who participated agreed to unite under the Behntashan banner. Since then, relationships between humans and ponies have improved dramatically, and many of our human-majority population welcome ponies settling in traditionally human-held land. In addition, our constitution has promised all sentient beings in our land equal rights.
As for are they creatures of God, I do believe so, and that they do have souls. A number of different opinions emerge though, with most of the pony population as well as several humans choosing to follow the teachings of Celestia and Luna. We do have significant Buddhist, Christian, and Shinto practitioners as well. Behntashan official policy is to not interfere with a person's or pony's religious preference. We have found, in terms of morals, that humans and ponies are equal in how they act, and we have no reason to suspect humans of wrong-doing over ponies, or vice versa. This goes back to our judicial systems practice of "Innocent until proven guilty", and the constitutional rights.


BASTAARD, JJ: Esteemed committee. Members of the public. We have gathered here today to unravel the dark depths behind a vast, inhuman conspiracy against the people of Knootoss. There are truths to be exposed and I, Jeremy Bastaard, intend to be the one to share them with you. My first question for this witness. :: POINTS AT THE WITNESS :: ... is as follows. What is the pony plan for world domination, and how do their secret mind control techniques work?!

Umayama: I am deeply shocked and outraged at this accusation! Behntasha has no plans for wars of conquest, and will not engage in such. We have but a small peacekeeping force and a defense force, should our land come under attack for our support of the pony population. In addition, we are active in the Coalition of Ponyist States in order to assure that all member nations will not fall prey to a non-ponyist nation's militarism.
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Postby Knootoss » Sat Oct 15, 2011 2:33 pm

Lubyak wrote:VILJOEN, M: Welcome, welcome! I do hope you had a good trip. As you probably know already, I am the renowned adventurer and people's representative Maurits Viljoen. :: PAUSES TO SMILE AT CAMERA 3 :: Would you care to share with this committee who you are, and what it is you do?

ROMANOV: I am Justicar Jacobus Romanov of the Dominion of the Lubyak. I am a senior member of the Judiciary, the Dominion's primary internal intelligence service, and I hold a seat within the National Congress. My credentials can be forwarded to your government at your request.

VILJOEN, M: Now for the oath. Please raise your right hand and repeat after me: "I will speak the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. This I promise."

ROMANOV: I will speak the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. This I promise.

DE LA COURT, F: For the record, please tell us the true nature and origins of the so-called "magical ponies", in your opinion. Where do they come from? Are they creatures of God? Do they have souls?

ROMANOV: I do not believe in God, nor do I believe in souls. However, I can inform you that historical records indicate that the first ponies arrived within the Dominion from the Pony Principality of Magical Equestria to our geographic East. Our own map can be acessed very easily though our online Factbook if the commitee so pleases.

In a similar light, a detailed description of ponies within the Dominion can be found within our factbook. However, in general the reports from the Ministy of the Interior have been amazing. Pony agricultural methods have vastly improved profitability over human run farms, and the skill sets of individual ponies is simply astounding. The Dominion has conducted its own research into the nature of what the ponies have described as their innate 'magic', and while we have yet to determine a cause, the effects of this 'magic' is something that we can not deny.

BASTAARD, JJ: Esteemed committee. Members of the public. We have gathered here today to unravel the dark depths behind a vast, inhuman conspiracy against the people of Knootoss. There are truths to be exposed and I, Jeremy Bastaard, intend to be the one to share them with you. My first question for this witness. :: POINTS AT THE WITNESS :: ... is as follows. What is the pony plan for world domination, and how do their secret mind control techniques work?!

ROMANOV: ::BLINKS SLOWLY FOR A FEW SEONCDS:: Excuse me? The ponies within the Dominion have proved their loyalty to the Dominion through service in our military, and many have begun the journey through the civil service structure to postions of great power. Their is no 'secret mind control' going on here at all.

Additionally, while individual pony nations may have their dreams of territorial conquest, their is no ponyist plan for world domination. The Coalition of Ponyist States is merely an alliance for the protection of the pony species around the world against such nations that would see their rights stripped, and the Coalition holds itself to the ideals of the Elements of Harmony.


BASTAARD, JJ: Justicar Jacobus Romanov. :: A SIGH :: If not all of these creatures are out for world domination, this fine republic could still be at risk from an attack using the powers you mentioned. Which ponyist nations ARE out for world domination? What is their plan?

ROMANOV, J:

BASTAARD, JJ: Mr. Romanov, you told us that the "magical ponies" arrived in your country from the neighbouring land of Magical Equestria. How did they get past your borders? Were they illegal immigrants?

ROMANOV, J:

BASTAARD, JJ: Why did you decide to treat them as if they were legally the same as real human beings?

ROMANOV, J:

BASTAARD, JJ: You also told us about pony "magic". How does this work, and do these powers include mind control abilities?

ROMANOV, J:

DE LA COURT, F: Returning to the question of the origins of these creatures for a moment... do you know if they are extra-dimensional beings like the others we encountered? How did they come to inhabit the Principality of Magical Equestria?

ROMANOV, J:

VILJOEN, M: Welcome, welcome! I do hope you had a good trip. As you probably know already, I am the renowned adventurer and people's representative Maurits Viljoen. :: PAUSES TO SMILE AT CAMERA 3 :: Would you care to share with this committee who you are, and what it is you do?

Umayama: I am Minami Umayama, the Minister of International Relations of the Social Democratic Union of Behntasha. Prior to this, I was the Head of the Behntashan Parliament's largest opposition party, the Liberté Party. After the end of Behntasha's policy of political isolation on October 1st, 2011, I was nominated to handle all foreign affairs, to provide all official statements abroad, and to establish embassies with our neighboring states.

VILJOEN, M: Now for the oath. Please raise your right hand and repeat after me: "I will speak the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. This I promise."

Umayama: I will speak the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. This I promise.

DE LA COURT, F: For the record, please tell us the true nature and origins of the so-called "magical ponies", in your opinion. Where do they come from? Are they creatures of God? Do they have souls?

Umayama: Our pony population is unique for being largely indigenous to our country, especially around Phenom Poni and Apurujakku. Though we originally existed as several different kingdoms, and have had numerous tensions in the past, the Rainbow Revolution of 1724 against respective kings and queens required a tremendous cooperative effort between humans and ponies across the region. After the end of the Revolution in 1732, all the states who participated in this revolution sent delegates to a regional convention, where by popular vote all nations who participated agreed to unite under the Behntashan banner. Since then, relationships between humans and ponies have improved dramatically, and many of our human-majority population welcome ponies settling in traditionally human-held land. In addition, our constitution has promised all sentient beings in our land equal rights.
As for are they creatures of God, I do believe so, and that they do have souls. A number of different opinions emerge though, with most of the pony population as well as several humans choosing to follow the teachings of Celestia and Luna. We do have significant Buddhist, Christian, and Shinto practitioners as well. Behntashan official policy is to not interfere with a person's or pony's religious preference. We have found, in terms of morals, that humans and ponies are equal in how they act, and we have no reason to suspect humans of wrong-doing over ponies, or vice versa. This goes back to our judicial systems practice of "Innocent until proven guilty", and the constitutional rights.


BASTAARD, JJ: Esteemed committee. Members of the public. We have gathered here today to unravel the dark depths behind a vast, inhuman conspiracy against the people of Knootoss. There are truths to be exposed and I, Jeremy Bastaard, intend to be the one to share them with you. My first question for this witness. :: POINTS AT THE WITNESS :: ... is as follows. What is the pony plan for world domination, and how do their secret mind control techniques work?!

Umayama: I am deeply shocked and outraged at this accusation! Behntasha has no plans for wars of conquest, and will not engage in such. We have but a small peacekeeping force and a defense force, should our land come under attack for our support of the pony population. In addition, we are active in the Coalition of Ponyist States in order to assure that all member nations will not fall prey to a non-ponyist nation's militarism.


VILJOEN, M: Minister Umayama, can this Committee suppose that you are an expert in the area of foreign relations?

UMAYAMA, M:

VILJOEN, M: We've received testimony that some Ponyist nations may have aggressive military plans. As a man who has had extensive travels in different foreign lands, I've learned a lot about the cultures of different nations. Ponies might be quite different from nation to nation. Are they? Could you tell us which pony nations might be up to no good? :: WINKS AT CAMERA 3 ::

UMAYAMA, M:

VILJOEN, M: Minister Umayama, if I might... heh... crave your indulgence. How does the Coalition of Ponyist States deal with aggressive members? Are there procedures?

UMAYAMA, M:

DE LA COURT, F: I'd like to thank you for your previous answer about faith, Your Excellency. Could you tell this Committee more about the teachings of Celestia and Luna?

UMAYAMA, M:

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Postby Lubyak » Sat Oct 15, 2011 3:11 pm

BASTAARD, JJ: Justicar Jacobus Romanov. :: A SIGH :: If not all of these creatures are out for world domination, this fine republic could still be at risk from an attack using the powers you mentioned. Which ponyist nations ARE out for world domination? What is their plan?

ROMANOV, J: As far as we know, no member of the Coalition hopes to seek world domination. Spread of ponies around the world at the point of a sword would not be compatible with the ideals of ponies. The words of the very deities some of the more 'ponyist' states forbids them from spreading their ideals and control in the agressive manner you fear.

BASTAARD, JJ: Mr. Romanov, you told us that the "magical ponies" arrived in your country from the neighbouring land of Magical Equestria. How did they get past your borders? Were they illegal immigrants?

ROMANOV, J: Not neighbouring. Magical Equestria is separated from us by the Tacitus Ocean. The first pony immigrants entered our borders as would any human immigrant would. They applied for Lubyankan visas, were granted them upon the completion of the tests required for any sentient being to enter the Dominion as a potential citizen.

BASTAARD, JJ: Why did you decide to treat them as if they were legally the same as real human beings?

ROMANOV, J: When the first applications came in, we created a 'sapience test' to be administered to the pontential emigrees. The tests were built as a test of the ability of the test taker to think in an analytical matter, and if they could determine how to solve complex problems that a human with approximately 10 years of mental development could solve. All the attempted emigrees passed with flying colors. After they arrived, and began to work in agricultural production, we ammended the Dominion charter to make sure all civil rights applied to any sentient being rather than just humans.

BASTAARD, JJ: You also told us about pony "magic". How does this work, and do these powers include mind control abilities?

ROMANOV, J: I'm not sure why the government of Knootoss is so concerned about mind control. To answer your question, we do not know how it works. Our researchers, as well as the researchers in many of our allied states are working hard to understand. To the ponies, their magic is an instinctive as a human being able to swallow or kick a ball. Unicorns may require more concentration and training to use their more advanced 'spells', but basic telekinesis seems to be as basic to them as walking is to us. The same can be said of the pegasus ability to manipulate weather, or the noticeably increased fertility of the soil farmed by Earth ponies.

DE LA COURT, F: Returning to the question of the origins of these creatures for a moment... do you know if they are extra-dimensional beings like the others we encountered? How did they come to inhabit the Principality of Magical Equestria?

ROMANOV, J: I doubt that they have any kind of super natural or alien origin. The religion of Ponyism has its own creation story, but we attach little signficance to the myth. Archaelogical teams have not had much access to Magical Equestria, but scientists in the YellowApplan led Equine Genome Project have apparently made fascinating advances in the study of the evolution of the pony species. We eagerly await the publishing of their reuslts.

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Postby Behntasha » Sat Oct 15, 2011 3:30 pm

VILJOEN, M: Minister Umayama, can this Committee suppose that you are an expert in the area of foreign relations?

UMAYAMA, M: I am the most experienced in the current Behntashan parliament. Prior to my election as a parliament member in 2009, I was the head of the Economic Development Bureau. Our policy of political isolation did not translate to economic isolation as well. While they were not official, state-sanctioned visits, I have frequently been abroad to promote investment in the Behntashan economy, touting our skilled workforce, ore-rich mountains, and emerging academic institutions. So, right now instead of encouraging companies to invest in Behntashan economies in a non-offical role, I'm encouraging nations to engage with Behntasha on various issues ranging from economic to environmental to ::Glances at Bastaard:: PEACE-KEEPING operations, on behalf of Prime Minister Bentus Arcadius.

VILJOEN, M: We've received testimony that some Ponyist nations may have aggressive military plans. As a man who has had extensive travels in different foreign lands, I've learned a lot about the cultures of different nations. Ponies might be quite different from nation to nation. Are they? Could you tell us which pony nations might be up to no good? :: WINKS AT CAMERA 3 ::

UMAYAMA, M: We are not aware of any current countries inside the Coalition or in the Pony Lands that desire to expand their borders to anything other than unclaimed land. That being said, we cannot watch every single nation. I can only report what intelligence our operations pick up to the Coalition of Ponyist States. The Coalition will then respond to the issue as it sees fit. Please understand that Behntasha, as a small nation of only 20 million, cannot and will not police other nations' actions on our own. We will only act in accordance with the Coalition should it determine that intervention is necessary.

VILJOEN, M: Minister Umayama, if I might... heh... crave your indulgence. How does the Coalition of Ponyist States deal with aggressive members? Are there procedures?

UMAYAMA, M: It is typically put up to the Coalition's consensus if the incident is worth getting involved in. During a previous incident, for instance, a civil war in Ponistan ended up with supporters for the current government and for monarchist rebels, threatening to cause a war between these supporters. Members of the Coalition, including nations like Behntasha, demanded that these nations cease and desist these hostilities immediately. We then agreed to remain neutral to the Ponistan civil war, beyond offering assistance to refugees, and allowed for Ponistan to decide it's own fate. I will transmit our official documents of this incident after this meeting concludes.

DE LA COURT, F: I'd like to thank you for your previous answer about faith, Your Excellency. Could you tell this Committee more about the teachings of Celestia and Luna?

UMAYAMA, M: There is a wide variety of beliefs around them. The most commonly held Behntashan viewpoint is that Princess Celestia and Luna are the two gods which rule over the land, controlling the sun and the moon, respectively, though are capable of unfathomable power. The path of Celestia and Luna is referred to as the "Elements of Harmony", which include Honesty, Kindness, Generosity, Laughter, Loyalty, and Magic. The goal is to embody these virtues as much as possible in everyday life, and to create lasting friendships, in order to lead a happy, meaningful life. The Elements of Harmony are believed to be embodied by six of Celestia's followers, which are regarded by Celestialists as apostles, if you will. Many shrines in Behntasha have been created in order to promote these Elements and reflect on the various other teachings of Celestia and Luna; most notable is the Apurujakku Jinja, which is devoted to Applejack, the apostle who embodies the Element of Honesty.
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Postby Crystal Spires » Sat Oct 15, 2011 3:58 pm

VILJOEN, M: Welcome, welcome! I do hope you had a good trip. As you probably know already, I am the renowned adventurer and people's representative Maurits Viljoen. :: PAUSES TO SMILE AT CAMERA 3 :: Would you care to share with this committee who you are, and what it is you do?

DEORTRYL, L: I am, Lancaeriel Deortryl, Official Minister of Interracial Relations speaking on behalf of the High Council of Crystal Spires.

VILJOEN, M: Now for the oath. Please raise your right hand and repeat after me: "I will speak the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. This I promise."

DEORTRYL, L: "I will speak the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. This I promise."

DE LA COURT, F: For the record, please tell us the true nature and origins of the so-called "magical ponies", in your opinion. Where do they come from? Are they creatures of God? Do they have souls?

DEORTRYL, L: It is my belief that they are indeed creatures of God endowed upon the moment of creation a sapient consciousness. This gift is a rare thing and we would do well to value such a gift.

BASTAARD, JJ: Esteemed committee. Members of the public. We have gathered here today to unravel the dark depths behind a vast, inhuman conspiracy against the people of Knootoss. There are truths to be exposed and I, Jeremy Bastaard, intend to be the one to share them with you. My first question for this witness. :: POINTS AT THE WITNESS :: ... is as follows. What is the pony plan for world domination, and how do their secret mind control techniques work?!

DEORTRYL, L: It is our belief that while the ponies as a race are not dangerous, there are certain dangerous states who band together and are called the Coalition of Ponyist States. With examples we have the Greater Pony Herd which is a theocratic pony Third Reich. The nation of Hippostania which is a grotesque McCarthyist police state. The leader Enatai while benign fosters the pony cabal, Ponistan is a scary military communism dystopia ravaged by a civil war. Shrillland has a Socialist bent to it and YellowApple is a corporate autocracy and essentially a giant corporation, and the Dominion of Lubayak is a meritocratic, capitalistic benevolent dictatorship. We have received dossiers on the belief systems of Ponyism, but having looked over the information in the dossiers, we find inconsistent practices of members within The Coalition of Ponyist States a legitimate threat. For example, with reference to the universality of Ponyist beliefs it is said that it's personal qualities that matter. That social standing and so on don't matter, and yet there has been ponyists who call for pony supremacism which places the welfare of some ponies above other ponies and all ponies above the welfare of non ponies which is inconsistent with the ideological practices and claims of ponyism.

Then it was said that the ideal ponyist is one like the Regal Sisters themselves or the six ponies who hold the elements of harmony which is described as the manner of perfecting one's moral character but it is not practiced by the members of the Coalition of Ponyist States. I have seen lies, cruelty, bitterness, war, selfishness, and cronyism. their ideals of Honesty, Kindness, Laughter, Generosity, Loyalty, and Magic are left in the wayside as a lost forsaken lost ideal.
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Postby Googlewoop » Sat Oct 15, 2011 6:00 pm

TRANSCRIPT OF THE COMMITTEE OF INQUIRY INTO THE PONY QUESTION, STATEN-GENERAAL 088/D-3

VILJOEN, M: Welcome, welcome! I do hope you had a good trip. As you probably know already, I am the renowned adventurer and people's representative Maurits Viljoen. :: PAUSES TO SMILE AT CAMERA 3 :: Would you care to share with this committee who you are, and what it is you do?

McKINNON, M: Doctor Matthew McKinnon M.B.B.S, F.G.C.S, Secretary of Health and Surgeon General to the President and Senate of the Googelistic Democracy of Googlewoop, at your service, Sir. I report directly to and advise the President on matters of health and public service and in this instance also to the Secrataries of State and Defence. I thank the chairman and committee for their warm welcome.

VILJOEN, M: Now for the oath. Please raise your right hand and repeat after me: "I will speak the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. This I promise."

McKINNON, M: I will speak the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. This I promise.

DE LA COURT, F: For the record, please tell us the true nature and origins of the so-called "magical ponies", in your opinion. Where do they come from? Are they creatures of God? Do they have souls?

McKINNON, M: Honourable members of this Parliamentary Inquiry... It is the position of my government, after due investigation, experimentation and deliberation, that the claim of sentient equines living amongst and in some cases running modern societies is, in Googlewooper legal terminology, prorsus stupidi. That is to say that the argument itself is invalid by reason of physical impossibility and hence beyond judgement by law or committee. The position of my government following extensive experimentation on domesticated as well as so called ‘magical ponies’ is that the animals under investigation by this committee are genetically, physiologically and psychologically identical to every other Equus ferus cabellus previously encountered.

While this may seemingly answer your honours question, it has brought to light a further question of far greater importance and consequence. It is the opinion of our government, after consultation with a myriad of medical and scientific experts, that the Nation States claiming to be a part of this ‘Ponyist’ philosophy and who practice the humanisation of individual Equus ferus cabellus, must in fact be suffering from a case of mass hallucination on a national and regional scale! Your honours, it is the opinion and official position of the President and Senate of the Googleistic Democracy of Googlewoop, that an infectious viral encephalopathy has taken hold in these Nation States and is spreading to epidemic proportions! We have already taken the liberty of naming the virus in readiness for its isolation and classification: Retardus Actinglikealittlegirlicus.

BASTAARD, JJ: Esteemed committee. Members of the public. We have gathered here today to unravel the dark depths behind a vast, inhuman conspiracy against the people of Knootoss. There are truths to be exposed and I, Jeremy Bastaard, intend to be the one to share them with you. My first question for this witness. :: POINTS AT THE WITNESS :: ... is as follows. What is the pony plan for world domination, and how do their secret mind control techniques work?!

McKINNON, M: I thank the member for his question and reply thus: Epidemiological studies by independently contracted organisations show an alarming spread of the disease. It is postulated that the ‘mind control’ techniques suggested by the honourable committee member are in response to a (virally induced) need to explore ones inner 6 to 16 year old feminine side. This in turn leads to an insatiable need to receive one’s very own pony upon every birthday. When one does not receive afore mentioned pony, complete psychosis sets in during what we have labelled the ‘tantrum’ stage of the disease. We therefore postulate that no later than one year after initial infection, every citizen of an affected Nation State will feel the insatiable need to involve miniature equines into every aspect of their lives including politics and national defence. Our government, while sympathising with the sufferers of this incredibly debilitating disease, must condemn this action based purely on the many dangers of allowing relatively non sentient (despite Ponyist claims) beings access to military hardware.

However, our government further (politely) condemns the military intervention against Ponyism practiced by several Nation States as yet another means of spreading the infection. This problem must be considered by unaffected nations as a medical, psychiatric one and treated accordingly! Instead of military and diplomatic intervention by some nations, which only lends credence to the myth, it is our recommendation to this committee that the great Dutch Democratic Republic of Knootoss, joins our scientific and medical efforts in aggressively attacking the disease with an extremely large dose of the Ignorisol (TM) Vaccine!

Are there any further questions your honours?


(OOC Disclaimer: This is the satirical, IC position of my government. No offence is intended to any persons who may or may not be fanatical MLP fans. Thank you for your attention to this important anti-flaming announcement)
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Postby Alogachia » Sun Oct 16, 2011 2:31 am

VILJOEN, M: Welcome, welcome! I do hope you had a good trip. As you probably know already, I am the renowned adventurer and people's representative Maurits Viljoen. :: PAUSES TO SMILE AT CAMERA 3 :: Would you care to share with this committee who you are, and what it is you do?

COLDT, JOSEF: My name is Josef. I am come from the Foreign Ministry of Alogachia. I am come for my land to face of the world to represent.

VILJOEN, M: Now for the oath. Please raise your right hand and repeat after me: "I will speak the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. This I promise."

COLDT, J.: I will the truth speak, the whole truth, and not but the truth. This promise do I.

DE LA COURT, F: For the record, please tell us the true nature and origins of the so-called "magical ponies", in your opinion. Where do they come from? Are they creatures of God? Do they have souls?

COLDT, J.: I have not an answer. Many ponies saying: 'we coming from Equestria and were of Celestia made", and another ponies saying: "we are older", but lot is lost. Have we a soul? What mean you? Have we thoughts? Brains? I say yes. But I know not what you exactly mean.

BASTAARD, JJ: Esteemed committee. Members of the public. We have gathered here today to unravel the dark depths behind a vast, inhuman conspiracy against the people of Knootoss. There are truths to be exposed and I, Jeremy Bastaard, intend to be the one to share them with you. My first question for this witness. :: POINTS AT THE WITNESS :: ... is as follows. What is the pony plan for world domination, and how do their secret mind control techniques work?!

COLDT, J.: It is a proof in favour of your morally corrupt methods that you believe is exist plan for to which unite eachpony--please excuse, eachperson--in the world for to dominate, because you on such plans in your own administration aligned is. Is no truth here, what you speaking. Why you say: 'here is truth, which I have discovered, now see!', as if at trial? You not now discovering? Or has been to Alogachia already? Then how say: 'this is evil thing'? For Alogachia, is not such plan. We wanting only our own land for us to have and for to all four of our hoof standing, and to get for us the product of the sweat of our brows. How say mind controlling this? Not control with mind anything but to creating idea, but hoof working in soil, in factory. Is simple, not secret. Everypony is able do this. You also, if not locked up in crazy tower looking down at subjects like little ants.
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Postby Urmanian » Sun Oct 16, 2011 2:53 am

VILJOEN, M: Welcome, welcome! I do hope you had a good trip. As you probably know already, I am the renowned adventurer and people's representative Maurits Viljoen. :: PAUSES TO SMILE AT CAMERA 3 :: Would you care to share with this committee who you are, and what it is you do?

MORNING STAR: *combs his mane* I'm Morning Star, the Prime Minister of the Greater Pony Herd. What I do is helping the Alpha Mare Twilight Sparkle to run the state. *smiles and slightly bows at the camera*

VILJOEN, M: Now for the oath. Please raise your right hand and repeat after me: "I will speak the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. This I promise."

MORNING STAR: I have no hands. *grins and raises his right front leg* "I will speak the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. This I promise."

DE LA COURT, F: For the record, please tell us the true nature and origins of the so-called "magical ponies", in your opinion. Where do they come from? Are they creatures of God? Do they have souls?

MORNING STAR: In my opinion? I have facts. Ponies that now inhabit the Greater Pony Herd have arrived from the plane of Equestria after the Urmanian Federation was invaded and colonized by the Equestrian Principality's armed forces.

Are we creatures of god? Verily, but not of god, rather we were created by Goddesses. The Regal Sisters to be exact, the only true and provable deities around.

Do we have souls? Yes, of course we do, furthermore, we are the only living things in the Universe that the Regal Sisters gave souls, as in contradistinction to unterponyschen like zebras, other sentient beings, like humans, and non-sentinent beings, animals.

BASTAARD, JJ: Esteemed committee. Members of the public. We have gathered here today to unravel the dark depths behind a vast, inhuman conspiracy against the people of Knootoss. There are truths to be exposed and I, Jeremy Bastaard, intend to be the one to share them with you. My first question for this witness. :: POINTS AT THE WITNESS :: ... is as follows. What is the pony plan for world domination, and how do their secret mind control techniques work?!

MORNING STAR: *laughs* Oh-ho-ho-ho-ho. Oh, sorry. You think the ponykind has a single unified plan to control this world? Well, I do. *grins* But the next pony is too soft for this kind of thing, sadly. So there's no need to be paranoid about that...for now.

And secret mind control techniques? First time I hear about this sort of thing, but it's a mighty fine idea, thanks...
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Postby Princess Luna » Sun Oct 16, 2011 3:17 am

When it eventually happened, Princess Luna's interview was conducted by screen with her throne room, a duplicate of the one she had shared with her sister over a millennium ago in the background.

TRANSCRIPT OF THE COMMITTEE OF INQUIRY INTO THE PONY QUESTION, STATEN-GENERAAL 088/D-3

VILJOEN, M: Welcome, welcome! I do hope you had a good trip. As you probably know already, I am the renowned adventurer and people's representative Maurits Viljoen. :: PAUSES TO SMILE AT CAMERA 3 :: Would you care to share with this committee who you are, and what it is you do?

LUNA: I am Princess Luna, Mistress of the Night and Princess Regnant of the Principality of Princess Luna. I control the night of Equestria, the Moon and Stars are mine to control. As one of the Royal Pony Sisters, it is my duty to protect ponykind and associated races from all threats, and guide others to the fullest expression of their own gifts and personalities. On a day to day basis, I rule the Principality that shares my name, a microstate of some eight thousand ponies, in agreement with its constitution and parliament, act as the treaty-empowered primary representative of the Eternal Necrontyr Empire of The C'tan to the World Assembly, as the Regional Delegate of the Pony Lands region to same. I also direct small numbers of armed forces in operations intended to safeguard safety and liberty of ponies and other peoples worldwide.

VILJOEN, M: Now for the oath. Please raise your right hand and repeat after me: "I will speak the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. This I promise."

LUNA: I will speak the truth in accordance with the principle of Honesty, the whole truth discounting secure operational matters and contentious theological issues, and nothing that is untrue, this I swear before the Elements of Harmony, may I be struck down should I speak falsehood.

DE LA COURT, F: For the record, please tell us the true nature and origins of the so-called "magical ponies", in your opinion. Where do they come from? Are they creatures of God? Do they have souls?

LUNA: Ponies have souls. They come from Equestria, of course, the other theological matters you ask are inappropriate for this inquiry, I think, though I am certainly happy to say that ponies are as much creatures of God as humans are, no more and no less.

BASTAARD, JJ: Esteemed committee. Members of the public. We have gathered here today to unravel the dark depths behind a vast, inhuman conspiracy against the people of Knootoss. There are truths to be exposed and I, Jeremy Bastaard, intend to be the one to share them with you. My first question for this witness. :: POINTS AT THE WITNESS :: ... is as follows. What is the pony plan for world domination, and how do their secret mind control techniques work?!

LUNA: While individual ponies differ, the overwhelming super-majority of ponies plan to prosper peacefully in this world by the reasonable engagement in business to mutually prosper with others by consensual exchanges and tasks. This of course, does not constitute a plan for world domination, though I am sure many pony businesses have ambitions of global reach and name recognition. No pony state that I am aware of has any designs on territorial conquest. Pony success in this world to date has not been founded upon mind control, which is entirely unknown to the majority of ponies. As for how such techniques work, it's a secret.
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((To preserve a narrative structure and to keep this from branching out too fast, I'll integrate the different testimonies so it is parallel. This should also help to prevent swamping me too much, whilst still keeping a good pace. Some of you will presumed to have testified before this post. Others get placed /inside/ the post by use of a quote, not always in the order that they posted. I hope this isn't too confusing!))

Giving Testimony:

  • Justicar Jacobus Romanov of the Dominion of the Lubyak
  • Minami Umayama, Minister of International Relations of the Social Democratic Union of Behntasha
  • Lancaeriel Deortryl, Official Minister of Interracial Relations speaking on behalf of the High Council of Crystal Spires.
  • Doctor Matthew McKinnon M.B.B.S, F.G.C.S, Secretary of Health and Surgeon General of Googlewoop
  • Josef Coldt, employee of the Foreign Ministry of Alogachia
  • Morning Star, Prime Minister of the Greater Pony Herd of Urmanian
  • Princess Luna, Princess Regnant of the Principality of Princess Luna

TRANSCRIPT OF THE COMMITTEE OF INQUIRY INTO THE PONY QUESTION, STATEN-GENERAAL 088/D-3

Princess Luna wrote:VILJOEN, M: Welcome, welcome! I do hope you had a good trip. As you probably know already, I am the renowned adventurer and people's representative Maurits Viljoen. :: PAUSES TO SMILE AT CAMERA 3 :: Would you care to share with this committee who you are, and what it is you do?

LUNA: I am Princess Luna, Mistress of the Night and Princess Regnant of the Principality of Princess Luna. I control the night of Equestria, the Moon and Stars are mine to control. As one of the Royal Pony Sisters, it is my duty to protect ponykind and associated races from all threats, and guide others to the fullest expression of their own gifts and personalities. On a day to day basis, I rule the Principality that shares my name, a microstate of some eight thousand ponies, in agreement with its constitution and parliament, act as the treaty-empowered primary representative of the Eternal Necrontyr Empire of The C'tan to the World Assembly, as the Regional Delegate of the Pony Lands region to same. I also direct small numbers of armed forces in operations intended to safeguard safety and liberty of ponies and other peoples worldwide.

VILJOEN, M: Now for the oath. Please raise your right hand and repeat after me: "I will speak the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. This I promise."

LUNA: I will speak the truth in accordance with the principle of Honesty, the whole truth discounting secure operational matters and contentious theological issues, and nothing that is untrue, this I swear before the Elements of Harmony, may I be struck down should I speak falsehood.

DE LA COURT, F: For the record, please tell us the true nature and origins of the so-called "magical ponies", in your opinion. Where do they come from? Are they creatures of God? Do they have souls?

LUNA: Ponies have souls. They come from Equestria, of course, the other theological matters you ask are inappropriate for this inquiry, I think, though I am certainly happy to say that ponies are as much creatures of God as humans are, no more and no less.

BASTAARD, JJ: Esteemed committee. Members of the public. We have gathered here today to unravel the dark depths behind a vast, inhuman conspiracy against the people of Knootoss. There are truths to be exposed and I, Jeremy Bastaard, intend to be the one to share them with you. My first question for this witness. :: POINTS AT THE WITNESS :: ... is as follows. What is the pony plan for world domination, and how do their secret mind control techniques work?!

LUNA: While individual ponies differ, the overwhelming super-majority of ponies plan to prosper peacefully in this world by the reasonable engagement in business to mutually prosper with others by consensual exchanges and tasks. This of course, does not constitute a plan for world domination, though I am sure many pony businesses have ambitions of global reach and name recognition. No pony state that I am aware of has any designs on territorial conquest. Pony success in this world to date has not been founded upon mind control, which is entirely unknown to the majority of ponies. As for how such techniques work, it's a secret.


VILJOEN, M: Excuse me please, I would like to confer privately with the committee. This hearing is in recess for five minutes.

:: THE HEARING IS IN RECESS FOR FIVE MINUTES. ::

VILJOEN, M: I would like to thank the witnesses for their patience. I have just conferred with legal council and with the other members of this committee. While we welcome the testimony of Princess Luna, the law does not permit us to accept an alternative oath before this committee. I must ask for the oath to be taken in the proper form: "I will speak the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. This I promise."

LUNA:

BASTAARD, JJ: Accepting remote testimony is already a bit of a silly favour. The witness can perjure herself without risk. I also call to the attention of this committee this... :: HE SHOWS A NEWSPAPER :: The lead of this mornings' Telegraaf. :: HE READS FROM THE NEWSPAPER AFTER SHOWING IT TO THE COMMITTEE :: "Princess Luna refuses to visit Knootoss unless she can bring an army". Why are you afraid of the truth, and why are you afraid of Knootians?

LUNA:

VILJOEN, M: I am sorry, but if you cannot pledge yourself to speak the full truth before this committee, without caveats, we cannot accept your testimony.

LUNA:

((If Luna refuses to take the oath in accordance with the proper wording, the tags for Luna further down the road in this post can be ignored. The Committee of Inquiry will not call on her again. If she does take the oath, tags are open and more questions will be asked in the future!))

VILJOEN, M: Order, order please... let us continue with the hearing. Justicar Romanov, you claimed that - and I read from the transcript - "no member of the Coalition hopes to seek world domination". And yet, Prime Minister Morning Star has just given testimony to the effect that the Greater Pony Herd does desire to conquer the world, as well as expressing a belief in the superiority of the Pony race. How do you respond?

ROMANOV, J:

VILJOEN, M: To continue with your previous testimony, Sir, you told us that magic is instinctive for these 'magical ponies', and that the depths of their abilities are not known. Can you rule out that 'magical ponies' are capable of mind control techniques?

ROMANOV, J:

BASTAARD, JJ: Or do they secrete some kind of 'harmony' pheromones, to pacify human populations and introduce pony ideology?!

ROMANOV, J:

VILJOEN, M: For the record, this chair knows from his vast experience of travelling the world that strange beings are often more aware of their abilities than those who live with them. Now, would suggest that the pony witnesses who are with us today should answer these questions also. One: are magical ponies capable of mind control techniques. Two, do they posses innate abilities to spread their 'harmony' to non-pony populations?

MORNING STAR:

LUNA:

DE LA COURT, F: I have only one more question for Mr. Romanov, mr. chairman. Is his government willing to share the results of the Equine Genome Project with this Committee of Inquiry? I would also note that the appearance of a YellowApplan scientist before this committee would be most useful.

ROMANOV, J:

VILJOEN, M: Minister Umayama of Behntasha. You have promoted your nation abroad, encouraging companies to invest in your nation. An admirable task. How has the presence of the magical ponies affected your job? Have you encountered much prejudice abroad?

UMAYAMA, M:

VILJOEN, M: Overall, how has the presence of the magical ponies affected the economy of your nation?

UMAYAMA, M:

BASTAARD, JJ: Minister Umayama, you testified earlier that you do not know about any pony nations that wish to expand their borders. The testimony by Morning Star directly contradicts that assessment. Do you wish to change your earlier statement? Ill remind you... :: RISES :: I'll remind you that you are under oath, sir. :: POINTS AT THE WITNESS WITH AN OUTSTRETCHED ARM AFTER CAMERA 2 WHEELS AROUND ::

UMAYAMA, M:

BASTAARD, JJ: Do I understand that your coalition will defend itself against attacks by non-pony species, yet stand idly by as aggressors of the same kind try to conquer the world? Is that not aiding and abetting these tyrants?

UMAYAMA, M:

DE LA COURT, F: Finally, Minister, do you consider the Princess Luna present here in remote to be a Goddess? Do you worship her?

UMAYAMA, M:

Crystal Spires wrote:VILJOEN, M: Welcome, welcome! I do hope you had a good trip. As you probably know already, I am the renowned adventurer and people's representative Maurits Viljoen. :: PAUSES TO SMILE AT CAMERA 3 :: Would you care to share with this committee who you are, and what it is you do?

DEORTRYL, L: I am, Lancaeriel Deortryl, Official Minister of Interracial Relations speaking on behalf of the High Council of Crystal Spires.

VILJOEN, M: Now for the oath. Please raise your right hand and repeat after me: "I will speak the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. This I promise."

DEORTRYL, L: "I will speak the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. This I promise."

DE LA COURT, F: For the record, please tell us the true nature and origins of the so-called "magical ponies", in your opinion. Where do they come from? Are they creatures of God? Do they have souls?

DEORTRYL, L: It is my belief that they are indeed creatures of God endowed upon the moment of creation a sapient consciousness. This gift is a rare thing and we would do well to value such a gift.

BASTAARD, JJ: Esteemed committee. Members of the public. We have gathered here today to unravel the dark depths behind a vast, inhuman conspiracy against the people of Knootoss. There are truths to be exposed and I, Jeremy Bastaard, intend to be the one to share them with you. My first question for this witness. :: POINTS AT THE WITNESS :: ... is as follows. What is the pony plan for world domination, and how do their secret mind control techniques work?!

DEORTRYL, L: It is our belief that while the ponies as a race are not dangerous, there are certain dangerous states who band together and are called the Coalition of Ponyist States. With examples we have the Greater Pony Herd which is a theocratic pony Third Reich. The nation of Hippostania which is a grotesque McCarthyist police state. The leader Enatai while benign fosters the pony cabal, Ponistan is a scary military communism dystopia ravaged by a civil war. Shrillland has a Socialist bent to it and YellowApple is a corporate autocracy and essentially a giant corporation, and the Dominion of Lubayak is a meritocratic, capitalistic benevolent dictatorship. We have received dossiers on the belief systems of Ponyism, but having looked over the information in the dossiers, we find inconsistent practices of members within The Coalition of Ponyist States a legitimate threat. For example, with reference to the universality of Ponyist beliefs it is said that it's personal qualities that matter. That social standing and so on don't matter, and yet there has been ponyists who call for pony supremacism which places the welfare of some ponies above other ponies and all ponies above the welfare of non ponies which is inconsistent with the ideological practices and claims of ponyism.

Then it was said that the ideal ponyist is one like the Regal Sisters themselves or the six ponies who hold the elements of harmony which is described as the manner of perfecting one's moral character but it is not practiced by the members of the Coalition of Ponyist States. I have seen lies, cruelty, bitterness, war, selfishness, and cronyism. their ideals of Honesty, Kindness, Laughter, Generosity, Loyalty, and Magic are left in the wayside as a lost forsaken lost ideal.



BASTAARD, JJ: Communists! :: JUMPS UP AND REMAINS STANDING :: I knew it! That bolshie scum is working with our enemies. We should haul them before this committee and purge our nation of these traitors.

:: THERE IS A DISTURBANCE IN THE AUDIENCE ::

VILJOEN, M: Order, order! This committee will come to order! Mr. Bastaard will ask questions of the witnesses when he has retaken his seat.

BASTAARD, JJ: :: SEATS HIMSELF :: Minister Deortryl obviously has a keen judgement. Had he been a Knootian, he could have been a good patriot. He has qualified the Greater Pony Herd as a theocratic pony Third Reich, and the testimony of the witness Morning Star backs this up. The 'interactions' :: MAKES AIRQUOTES :: our government has had with the grotesque McCarthyist police state of Hippostania also prove your sound judgement. I therefore move that this committee accept the qualifications of the other pony nations as fact.

VILJOEN, M: I have no objections.

DE LA COURT, F: I would like to create a caveat: established as fact unless contradicted by expert testimony from other parties.

VILJOEN, M: So noted. Mr. Bastaard, you may proceed with questioning the minister.

BASTAARD, JJ: Very well. Minister Deortryl. You painted a vivid picture of a high-minded ponyist idealism that was abandoned in favour of selfishness and criminality. Much like the high-minded ideology of communism was corrupted by human nature. Do you agree?

DEORTRYL, L:

BASTAARD, JJ: Would you qualify the ponyist ideology, with its emphasis on 'harmony', as quasi-communist? Why or why not?

DEORTRYL, L:

BASTAARD, JJ: How do you respond to those ponies and pony apologists who qualify their ideology as some 'higher ideal' for the betterment of mankind?

DEORTRYL, L:

BASTAARD, JJ: Would any of the witnesses who professed a sincere belief in Ponyism care to comment on that?

ANYONE:


Googlewoop wrote:TRANSCRIPT OF THE COMMITTEE OF INQUIRY INTO THE PONY QUESTION, STATEN-GENERAAL 088/D-3

VILJOEN, M: Welcome, welcome! I do hope you had a good trip. As you probably know already, I am the renowned adventurer and people's representative Maurits Viljoen. :: PAUSES TO SMILE AT CAMERA 3 :: Would you care to share with this committee who you are, and what it is you do?

McKINNON, M: Doctor Matthew McKinnon M.B.B.S, F.G.C.S, Secretary of Health and Surgeon General to the President and Senate of the Googelistic Democracy of Googlewoop, at your service, Sir. I report directly to and advise the President on matters of health and public service and in this instance also to the Secrataries of State and Defence. I thank the chairman and committee for their warm welcome.

VILJOEN, M: Now for the oath. Please raise your right hand and repeat after me: "I will speak the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. This I promise."

McKINNON, M: I will speak the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. This I promise.

DE LA COURT, F: For the record, please tell us the true nature and origins of the so-called "magical ponies", in your opinion. Where do they come from? Are they creatures of God? Do they have souls?

McKINNON, M: Honourable members of this Parliamentary Inquiry... It is the position of my government, after due investigation, experimentation and deliberation, that the claim of sentient equines living amongst and in some cases running modern societies is, in Googlewooper legal terminology, prorsus stupidi. That is to say that the argument itself is invalid by reason of physical impossibility and hence beyond judgement by law or committee. The position of my government following extensive experimentation on domesticated as well as so called ‘magical ponies’ is that the animals under investigation by this committee are genetically, physiologically and psychologically identical to every other Equus ferus cabellus previously encountered.

While this may seemingly answer your honours question, it has brought to light a further question of far greater importance and consequence. It is the opinion of our government, after consultation with a myriad of medical and scientific experts, that the Nation States claiming to be a part of this ‘Ponyist’ philosophy and who practice the humanisation of individual Equus ferus cabellus, must in fact be suffering from a case of mass hallucination on a national and regional scale! Your honours, it is the opinion and official position of the President and Senate of the Googleistic Democracy of Googlewoop, that an infectious viral encephalopathy has taken hold in these Nation States and is spreading to epidemic proportions! We have already taken the liberty of naming the virus in readiness for its isolation and classification: Retardus Actinglikealittlegirlicus.

BASTAARD, JJ: Esteemed committee. Members of the public. We have gathered here today to unravel the dark depths behind a vast, inhuman conspiracy against the people of Knootoss. There are truths to be exposed and I, Jeremy Bastaard, intend to be the one to share them with you. My first question for this witness. :: POINTS AT THE WITNESS :: ... is as follows. What is the pony plan for world domination, and how do their secret mind control techniques work?!

McKINNON, M: I thank the member for his question and reply thus: Epidemiological studies by independently contracted organisations show an alarming spread of the disease. It is postulated that the ‘mind control’ techniques suggested by the honourable committee member are in response to a (virally induced) need to explore ones inner 6 to 16 year old feminine side. This in turn leads to an insatiable need to receive one’s very own pony upon every birthday. When one does not receive afore mentioned pony, complete psychosis sets in during what we have labelled the ‘tantrum’ stage of the disease. We therefore postulate that no later than one year after initial infection, every citizen of an affected Nation State will feel the insatiable need to involve miniature equines into every aspect of their lives including politics and national defence. Our government, while sympathising with the sufferers of this incredibly debilitating disease, must condemn this action based purely on the many dangers of allowing relatively non sentient (despite Ponyist claims) beings access to military hardware.

However, our government further (politely) condemns the military intervention against Ponyism practiced by several Nation States as yet another means of spreading the infection. This problem must be considered by unaffected nations as a medical, psychiatric one and treated accordingly! Instead of military and diplomatic intervention by some nations, which only lends credence to the myth, it is our recommendation to this committee that the great Dutch Democratic Republic of Knootoss, joins our scientific and medical efforts in aggressively attacking the disease with an extremely large dose of the Ignorisol (TM) Vaccine!

Are there any further questions your honours?


VILJOEN, M: Members of the committee, do you have further questions?

DE LA COURT, F: I do. It is an interesting testimony, because it contradicts all the others. My first question to you, Dr. McKinnon, would be whether you have any medical facts to back up this diagnosis?

McKINNON, M:

DE LA COURT, F: My second question would be.. ah.. can you see the witnesses Morning Star and Luna in this room?

McKINNON, M:

DE LA COURT, F: How can we all be imagining the same thing at the same time?

McKINNON, M:

DE LA COURT, F: How do the magical ponies here today respond to this hypothesis?

MORNING STAR:

LUNA:

VILJOEN, M: Very well. Are there any questions for Mr. Coldt of Alogachia right now?

:: THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE SHAKE THEIR HEADS ::

VILJOEN, M: Very well. We'll get back to Mr. Coldt later. Have the members of the Committee of Inquiry considered the testimony of witness Morning Star further?

BASTAARD, JJ: I have, Mr. Chairman. Mister.... Missus...? Star. Do you have plans to conquer our fine Republic, using your extra-dimensional powers?

MORNING STAR:

BASTAARD: Have you received any material or immaterial support from ponies of other lands for your plans of conquest? If so, which ones?

MORNING STAR:

DE LA COURT, F: Very, er, interesting testimony. What is your conception of the soul, Morning Star? How is it that ponies have souls and humans do not?

MORNING STAR:

DE LA COURT, F: And you regard the witness Luna as one of these goddesses?

MORNING STAR:

DE LA COURT, F: How do you regard the teachings of the Catholic church?

MORNING STAR:

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((A small note with regards to oaths and duties: the committee determines whether a question is relevant. (Scope of inquiry). On the other hand, witnesses may invoke state security as a grounds to refuse to answer [part of] a question. State security must then be explicitly invoked. There are also a few other narrow grounds on which a witness may refuse to answer questions, but I doubt we'll see those here. ))
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Postby Urmanian » Sun Oct 16, 2011 5:40 am

VILJOEN, M: For the record, this chair knows from his vast experience of travelling the world that strange beings are often more aware of their abilities than those who live with them. Now, would suggest that the pony witnesses who are with us today should answer these questions also. One: are magical ponies capable of mind control techniques. Two, do they posses innate abilities to spread their 'harmony' to non-pony populations?

MORNING STAR: No, unicorn magic is not capable of tampering with the mind. All social conquests done by Equestrian species were due to our cultural superiority, not due to "secret mind control techniques".

BASTAARD, JJ: I have, Mr. Chairman. Mister.... Missus...? Star. Do you have plans to conquer our fine Republic, using your extra-dimensional powers?

MORNING STAR: *raises his brow* I'm a stallion, doesn't that show? *points at his characteristically masculine snout* Concerning the subject of conquest...I never spoke on behalf of the Herd as a whole, I simply lack the authority to do so. The Greater Pony Herd has no plans of conquest or expanding beyond its current borders in any way.

BASTAARD: Have you received any material or immaterial support from ponies of other lands for your plans of conquest? If so, which ones?

MORNING STAR: Let me reiterate, the GPH has no plans of conquest of any kind. All my personal little ambitions are you know, that, dreams.

DE LA COURT, F: Very, er, interesting testimony. What is your conception of the soul, Morning Star? How is it that ponies have souls and humans do not?

MORNING STAR: Soul is the one's spiritual essence that sublimates one above these who lack it. All in all, soul is a transcendental concept, so there can be a limitless number of the subject's handlings. I personally believe that non-ponies lack souls, the Regal Sisters did not grace them with souls. That, of course, contradicts orthodox pony views, often called "Ponyism", that state that all living things are equal before the Regal Sisters and all equally are graced with souls, but I personally find these notions absurd.

DE LA COURT, F: And you regard the witness Luna as one of these goddesses?

MORNING STAR: Yes, I do.

DE LA COURT, F: How do you regard the teachings of the Catholic church?

MORNING STAR: An interesting miscellany of human folk tales, but is absurd in many ways, like stating human superiority, or believing in a deity other than the Regal Sisters.
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VILJOEN, M: Members of the committee, do you have further questions?

DE LA COURT, F: I do. It is an interesting testimony, because it contradicts all the others. My first question to you, Dr. McKinnon, would be whether you have any medical facts to back up this diagnosis?

McKINNON, M: Indeed I do your honour. Publications by several independent Googlewooper geneticists in prominent journals show the results of initial DNA screening. Restriction enzyme digestion imaging as well as molecular cloning and x-ray crystylography of native and recombinant proteins have yet to find a single genetic difference in domesticated and ‘magical’ Equus. Behavoural studies have yet to show any discrepancies between the two ‘different’ and I use that term loosely, test groups. Unfortunately as of yet, due to safety concerns, isolation and classification of the actual pathogen has been difficult and no data is currently ready for presentation.

DE LA COURT, F: My second question would be.. ah.. can you see the witnesses Morning Star and Luna in this room?

McKINNON, M: (OOC: You went there huh? = P) [rubs condensation from biohazard helmet and speaks in muffled voice] Well I’m no veterinarian but I believe I see two perfectly healthy Equus ferus cabellus. [in falsetto] Who’s a good pony... Would ponies wike a sugar cwube? [Turns to aide and checks if any sugar cubes, or carrots for that matter have been brought with the delegation, then returns to normal voice and addressing the committee] But I am yet to observe any exhibition of above average intelligence or communication... I think... [Double checks biohazard helmet seal]... although I do applaud the committee for the patience and thoroughness with which they are conducting this inquiry by allowing the animals to attend.

DE LA COURT, F: How can we all be imagining the same thing at the same time?

McKINNON, M: A very good question. Shared hallucinations have been observed before in humans experiencing conditions of extreme psychological and physical stress including group drug highs, starvation and desiccation to name but a few. As a virus, which requires a specific external marker for incursion into the cell, we postulate that the pathogen, like other viral neuropathies, targets specific areas of the cortical tissue, hence producing similar symptoms in individual infections. In this case, the juvenile and stereotypically feminine nature of the behaviour would indicate infection is most likely heaviest in the upper hippocampus and/or deep temporal lobe cortex... I hope the member by using the term ‘we’ is not implying that the committee is currently suffering the hallucinations? [looks suspiciously at the committee]


(OOC: I’m amazed at how much real science I just used there! ; ) aaaaand since I’m sure the answer to my last question is that the committee is chatting merrily with the ponies, I think that’s about as far as I’m gonna be able to go with this one without breaking my self imposed fourth wall, at least for a while. Has been much fun weighing in on this shemozzle though! Cheers guys!)
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Postby -St George » Sun Oct 16, 2011 6:05 am

VILJOEN, M: Welcome, welcome! I do hope you had a good trip. As you probably know already, I am the renowned adventurer and people's representative Maurits Viljoen. :: PAUSES TO SMILE AT CAMERA 3 :: Would you care to share with this committee who you are, and what it is you do?

ANSJAR, K: I am Kaleb Ansjar, a Professor of Otherworldology and Alternative Sapient Creatures. My job is to, via first hand research ranging from laboratory studies to in-depth multi-year field work, dispel the myths and bring the facts about of a range of creatures and phenomena.

VILJOEN, M: Now for the oath. Please raise your right hand and repeat after me: "I will speak the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. This I promise."

ANSJAR, K: I will speak what I can reasonably determine to be truth, the entirety of such, and nothing more or less than such. This I promise.

DE LA COURT, F: For the record, please tell us the true nature and origins of the so-called "magical ponies", in your opinion. Where do they come from? Are they creatures of God? Do they have souls?

ANSJAR, K: Varying schools of thought are known to exist on the precise origins of the "magical ponies", but all are similar enough. At some time, a large number of the residents of a land called or known as or resembling the Equestria nation that is inherent in Pony-ist mythology either became displaced, chose to leave or fled the area and extended, like most peoples do, outwards in whichever direction seemed safest. Quite why is where most of the dispute comes in, from my research, but the prevailing theory is that they wished to spread peace and tolerance and similar concepts to a warring world/universe. Minority opinions suggest things more extreme such as civil war or invasion within Equestria or that there is some grand conspiracy to invade nations afoot.

BASTAARD, JJ: Esteemed committee. Members of the public. We have gathered here today to unravel the dark depths behind a vast, inhuman conspiracy against the people of Knootoss. There are truths to be exposed and I, Jeremy Bastaard, intend to be the one to share them with you. My first question for this witness. :: POINTS AT THE WITNESS :: ... is as follows. What is the pony plan for world domination, and how do their secret mind control techniques work?!

ANSJAR, K: I have seem no evidence of pony-ist mind control techniques or devices. I have seen less evidence of a plan for 'world domination'. Certainly there is some discontent within certain elements of certain pony-ist communities in certain countries where they are being repressed, but pony-ist terrorism is non-existent and even in nations where pony-ist communities are not repressed crime committed by said communities is almost nil.

It is not inconceivable that elements of the pony-ist community dislike certain nations and wish to bring about change within those nations.
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BASTAARD, JJ: Very well. Minister Deortryl. You painted a vivid picture of a high-minded ponyist idealism that was abandoned in favour of selfishness and criminality. Much like the high-minded ideology of communism was corrupted by human nature. Do you agree?

DEORTRYL, L: Agreed. It is a pity that such high-minded ideals are indeed left by the wayside. As Ponyism itself is a benign and peace loving ideal, it is the actions of ponyists that do not match to these ideals.

BASTAARD, JJ: Would you qualify the ponyist ideology, with its emphasis on 'harmony', as quasi-communist? Why or why not?

DEORTRYL, L: Depending on how you define communist. It certainly doesn't mean a stateless egalitarian society. To believe in a harmonious society where all people are treated as equals might perhaps qualify it as a communistic ideology, but let me remind you that in practice this ideal is left on the wayside.

BASTAARD, JJ: How do you respond to those ponies and pony apologists who qualify their ideology as some 'higher ideal' for the betterment of mankind?

DEORTRYL, L: We do not respond. If they desire to better mankind, and it promotes the welfare and the good, we have no objections. Those who do believe so never become a threat to our honored nation and we accept refugees with this professed belief system from genocidal nations all the time. Our Honored High Chancellor is a man of great compassion, and gives everyone a chance. We of Crystal Spires also have it as our most deeply held beliefs that there are rights for which all sentient beings should have protected. Freedom of religion is one such right.
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Postby Thrucia » Sun Oct 16, 2011 9:47 am

TRANSCRIPT OF THE COMMITTEE OF INQUIRY INTO THE PONY QUESTION, STATEN-GENERAAL 088/D-3

VILJOEN, M: Welcome, welcome! I do hope you had a good trip. As you probably know already, I am the renowned adventurer and people's representative Maurits Viljoen. :: PAUSES TO SMILE AT CAMERA 3 :: Would you care to share with this committee who you are, and what it is you do?

ALENDO, J: My name is Jovane Alendo and I am a Dutch-speaking representative of the Chancellery of Thrucia, which is equivalent to a Foreign Ministry.

VILJOEN, M: Now for the oath. Please raise your right hand and repeat after me: "I will speak the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. This I promise."

ALENDO, J: I will speak the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. This I promise.

DE LA COURT, F: For the record, please tell us the true nature and origins of the so-called "magical ponies", in your opinion. Where do they come from? Are they creatures of God? Do they have souls?

ALENDO, J: It appears that they are "not quite of this world" and have started to access this world through pink portals that have sprung up spontaneously in many locations. I do not believe they have been provided by God but by a form of secular magic or else some unknown science. They appear to have souls in the same way that humans do.

Thrucia has a population of 2 million ponies that live almost entirely the province of Frangetera, which has existed for centuries. So far they have not attempted to do anything spectacular, but their numbers are growing due to immigration to the province and the region of Thrucia with a pony majority is growing.

BASTAARD, JJ: Esteemed committee. Members of the public. We have gathered here today to unravel the dark depths behind a vast, inhuman conspiracy against the people of Knootoss. There are truths to be exposed and I, Jeremy Bastaard, intend to be the one to share them with you. My first question for this witness. :: POINTS AT THE WITNESS :: ... is as follows. What is the pony plan for world domination, and how do their secret mind control techniques work?!

ALENDO, J: It appears that they are orchestrating pony revolutions by arriving in countries unexpectedly and seizing control over the government, rarely through violent means. However, some such revolutions have been thwarted. To my knowledge there is no proof of mind control but rumours abound of such activity to an extent that it is difficult to ignore.

According to reports, the presence of ponies has apparently led to humans suddenly having strange ideas planted in their heads, though it appears to be quite temporary. There was one human in the Frangetera province who was arrested for assaulting a police officer. He had come out of a pub and randomly hugged about ten people before the officer came to tell him off, at which point the man shouted "Friendship is magic!" and attempted to hug the police officer. At the police station, he refused to admit he had done it and insisted he had been drunk, even when the breathalyser showed he wasn't.

In another story, a woman near Versala, the capital of Frangetera, had to be rescued by the fire brigade after she had painted herself pink and chained herself to some railings for reasons she couldn't explain, though witnesses had said that she had "been protesting and calling for a Thrucian pony revolution for above ten minutes - then she suddenly stopped and started acting like it had never happened." We have been keeping an eye on the people involved in about 39 several such cases in the last year, and there have been no reports of similar behaviour since among any of them.
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Postby Lubyak » Sun Oct 16, 2011 10:12 am

VILJOEN, M: Order, order please... let us continue with the hearing. Justicar Romanov, you claimed that - and I read from the transcript - "no member of the Coalition hopes to seek world domination". And yet, Prime Minister Morning Star has just given testimony to the effect that the Greater Pony Herd does desire to conquer the world, as well as expressing a belief in the superiority of the Pony race. How do you respond?

ROMANOV, J: Prime Minister Morning Star is a racist. The equivalent of a psychotic dictator among humans. Just as certain humans are cruel and dictatorial, some ponies are the same. Prime Minister Morning Star is the same.

VILJOEN, M: To continue with your previous testimony, Sir, you told us that magic is instinctive for these 'magical ponies', and that the depths of their abilities are not known. Can you rule out that 'magical ponies' are capable of mind control techniques?

ROMANOV, J: It's extremely unlikely that they can perform mind control. No evidence has arisen that ponies can use mind control. Unicorns posess telekinesis, pegasi weather control and flight, and Earth ponies the ability make the land extremely fertile, but the ability to influence the minds of any beind around them.

BASTAARD, JJ: Or do they secrete some kind of 'harmony' pheromones, to pacify human populations and introduce pony ideology?!

ROMANOV, J: In our observations no pheromones have ever been detected from ponies.

DE LA COURT, F: I have only one more question for Mr. Romanov, mr. chairman. Is his government willing to share the results of the Equine Genome Project with this Committee of Inquiry? I would also note that the appearance of a YellowApplan scientist before this committee would be most useful.

ROMANOV, J: The Dominion is willing to share the results of the Equine Genome Project once they are released. We will contact Yellow Apple to see if thy are willing to send a scientist to testify.

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Postby Urmanian » Sun Oct 16, 2011 10:25 am

ROMANOV, J: Prime Minister Morning Star is a racist. The equivalent of a psychotic dictator among humans. Just as certain humans are cruel and dictatorial, some ponies are the same. Prime Minister Morning Star is the same.

MORNING STAR: I'm not a racist. I've never ran a race.
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Postby Crystal Spires » Sun Oct 16, 2011 10:32 am

Urmanian wrote:MORNING STAR: I'm not a racist. I've never ran a race.


DEORTRYL, L: Perhaps they mean by the belief that one race is superior and other races are inferior. If so Justicar Jacobus Romanov of the Dominion of the Lubyak is speaking truthfully your excellency. But I must say that Maven Auryn, our High Chancellor, has spoken widely of such shenanigans perpetrated by ponyists, this is the first time for me to witness such things firsthand.
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Postby Behntasha » Sun Oct 16, 2011 12:43 pm

VILJOEN, M: Minister Umayama of Behntasha. You have promoted your nation abroad, encouraging companies to invest in your nation. An admirable task. How has the presence of the magical ponies affected your job? Have you encountered much prejudice abroad?

UMAYAMA, M: Heavens yes... Many people seem to think they just don't exist. However, when I offer trips to Behntasha to show them Phenom Poni or Apurujakku, two of our cities with large pony populations and beautiful historic sites, they refuse! No one who has denied the existence of these creatures is willing to travel to our country and see the proof before their own eyes!
We understand, it's a little odd for all these ponyist nations to emerge from seemingly nowhere. But we don't believe that ponies are fundamentally different from people. They work hard, they have families, they serve in the military and our government. Behntashan policy is that ALL our citizens are treated equally. All we ask is that we are not internationally condemned for our stance on equality. I don't think that's a lot to ask.

VILJOEN, M: Overall, how has the presence of the magical ponies affected the economy of your nation?

UMAYAMA, M: We believe that it has actually enhanced our economy, at least internally. The ponies' magical abilities enable them to perform several tasks without machinery typically needed in primarily human societies; for instance, cranes are not widely used in construction sites in Behntasha. Most of the skyscrapers have a unicorns team which hoists up the beams, and pegasi as well as humans will secure them in place, install interior systems, etc. Suffice it to say, there is a demand for pony labor.
Internationally... well we do trade with several friendly nations, whether they be ponyist or not. However, the emerging anti-ponyist sentiment limits who we can import and export goods with. Since joining the Coalition, economic cooperation between member states has begun to reduce some of the fuel shortages we've faced recently, but we still are trying to settle more trade agreements to make sure such shortages don't happen again in the future. We'd personally appreciate hearing any offers from Knootoss or other human nations.

BASTAARD, JJ: Minister Umayama, you testified earlier that you do not know about any pony nations that wish to expand their borders. The testimony by Morning Star directly contradicts that assessment. Do you wish to change your earlier statement? Ill remind you... :: RISES :: I'll remind you that you are under oath, sir. :: POINTS AT THE WITNESS WITH AN OUTSTRETCHED ARM AFTER CAMERA 2 WHEELS AROUND ::

UMAYAMA, M: As I testified, I did not know. I will change my statement based off of this testamony; however, recall that I said we ended our policy of political isolation early on this month. That's what, 15, 16 days of setting up international relations that didn't previously exist? In a world of over 80,000 nations? And we only had our acceptance into the CoPS on October 14th? Not to be rude, but give us a break!
I will admit, we have been anxious of the Urmanian government since the Ponistan incident. Morning Star's testimony is more cause for alarm, and I'll have to report on this to Prime Minister Bentus Arcadius to see if any policy changes are necessary. I do not have any knowledge, however, of other nations willing to go on an international conquest.

BASTAARD, JJ: Do I understand that your coalition will defend itself against attacks by non-pony species, yet stand idly by as aggressors of the same kind try to conquer the world? Is that not aiding and abetting these tyrants?

UMAYAMA, M: I have not seen any nation attack non-ponyist nations for reasons of conquest alone. Refer to my previous statement about our current level of knowledge.
The Behntashan government condemns such actions, regardless of who is attacking and who is attacked. We have voiced these concerns to the Coalition during the Ponistan incident, and will continue to do so whenever we get the intelligence. And ONLY when we can verify the accuracy of the intelligence.

DE LA COURT, F: Finally, Minister, do you consider the Princess Luna present here in remote to be a Goddess? Do you worship her?

UMAYAMA, M: As a Buddhist, I do not worship Luna. I respect Luna and her teachings, but she is not a goddess in my opinion. There are several in our nation who do, and many who do not. I would say that only about 30% of our nation practices Celestialism.
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Postby Princess Luna » Sun Oct 16, 2011 1:59 pm

TRANSCRIPT OF THE COMMITTEE OF INQUIRY INTO THE PONY QUESTION, STATEN-GENERAAL 088/D-3

VILJOEN, M: Excuse me please, I would like to confer privately with the committee. This hearing is in recess for five minutes.

:: THE HEARING IS IN RECESS FOR FIVE MINUTES. ::

VILJOEN, M: I would like to thank the witnesses for their patience. I have just conferred with legal council and with the other members of this committee. While we welcome the testimony of Princess Luna, the law does not permit us to accept an alternative oath before this committee. I must ask for the oath to be taken in the proper form: "I will speak the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. This I promise."

LUNA: Subject to reasonable provisos and the understanding that has been clarified by my staff elsewhere, I do so swear; "I will speak the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. This I promise."

BASTAARD, JJ: Accepting remote testimony is already a bit of a silly favour. The witness can perjure herself without risk. I also call to the attention of this committee this... :: HE SHOWS A NEWSPAPER :: The lead of this mornings' Telegraaf. :: HE READS FROM THE NEWSPAPER AFTER SHOWING IT TO THE COMMITTEE :: "Princess Luna refuses to visit Knootoss unless she can bring an army". Why are you afraid of the truth, and why are you afraid of Knootians?

LUNA: A battalion, Mr Bastaard, not an army. I am not afraid of Knootians. I merely seek to prevent incidents where over-enthusiastic and misguided Knootians might bring themselves to harm.

[…]

VILJOEN, M: For the record, this chair knows from his vast experience of travelling the world that strange beings are often more aware of their abilities than those who live with them. Now, would suggest that the pony witnesses who are with us today should answer these questions also. One: are magical ponies capable of mind control techniques. Two, do they posses innate abilities to spread their 'harmony' to non-pony populations?

LUNA: We are capable of many things, but such is the preserve of sole magical practitioners. Mind control, if it can be called that, would require a substantially advanced magician; one can for instance make an item supernaturally compelling and desired, but very few ponies, and only unicorns, can accomplish such tasks. I should note that humans, elves, and others have been encountered with mind control powers substantially in excess of any that I have seen any pony use. There are no pheromones or other means of compulsion. A pony cannot control your mind any more than a human can. This cannot be stressed enough, a pony cannot control your mind any more than
a human can.

[...]

DEORTRYL, L: We do not respond. If they desire to better mankind, and it promotes the welfare and the good, we have no objections. Those who do believe so never become a threat to our honored nation and we accept refugees with this professed belief system from genocidal nations all the time. Our Honored High Chancellor is a man of great compassion, and gives everyone a chance. We of Crystal Spires also have it as our most deeply held beliefs that there are rights for which all sentient beings should have protected. Freedom of religion is one such right.

BASTAARD, JJ: Would any of the witnesses who professed a sincere belief in Ponyism care to comment on that?

LUNA: Certainly. It is the right of every sapient being to judge what values to hold for themselves, to find truth or not as they please, and to align themselves however they wish. The statement of Mr Deortryl is a fine one, and expresses a sentiment we should all aspire to live up to.

DE LA COURT, F: How do the magical ponies here today respond to this hypothesis?

MORNING STAR:

::PRINCESS LUNA MAKES AN UNDIGNIFIED DISPLAY OF STICKING HER TONGUE OUT AT THE SCREEN, EVIDENTLY DIRECTED AT MR McKINNON, FOLLOWED BY 'NER NER' NOISES UNTIL REPRIMANDED OR UNTIL TWENTY SECONDS HAVE PASSED::

LUNA: I would say his diagnosis was harmless, but instead I would inquire what 'treatments' persons deemed to suffer from the delusion of having seen ponies are treated to. We fear they are probably unscientific and demeaning at best.

[...]

MORNING STAR: Soul is the one's spiritual essence that sublimates one above these who lack it. All in all, soul is a transcendental concept, so there can be a limitless number of the subject's handlings. I personally believe that non-ponies lack souls, the Regal Sisters did not grace them with souls. That, of course, contradicts orthodox pony views, often called "Ponyism", that state that all living things are equal before the Regal Sisters and all equally are graced with souls, but I personally find these notions absurd.

::PRINCESS LUNA CAN BE SEEN ON SCREEN FROWNING AT THIS REMARK.::

DE LA COURT, F: And you regard the witness Luna as one of these goddesses?

MORNING STAR: Yes, I do.

::PRINCESS LUNA NODS GRACIOUSLY AT THIS REMARK.::
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