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Altaiire
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Postby Altaiire » Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:10 pm

I was about to say... that thing is massive. It's going to be WAAAY too heavy if you want to put a reasonable-sized gun and and a fair amount of armor on it.

Well, okay... just don't expect it to move faster than a snail's crawl.
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Postby Grand Britannia » Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:12 pm

New Emperica wrote:
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I'll just put one of these babies on a choke point.

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/impractical much?

If we're just gonna be pulling crap out of our buts, I'm gonna go get my four-legged Stormwalker...


It was supposed to be an assault gun, but it came out a bit on the heavy side. So, they decided to leave it for defensive purposes.

Only 12 of them were built. You won't see them deployed anywhere in the battlefield unless you are attacking a base on my own soil.

Also, there's a reason I'm going broke. All the nobles in my nation started wasting money on expensive and possibly impractical crap.

This is also analogous to the German Maus tank, which weighted around 200 tons, I believe.

Of the few projects my nation wasted money on that wasn't much of a waste were the railroad superguns. Also analogous to the German superguns used in WW2.
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Postby New Emperica » Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:13 pm

Grand Britannia wrote:It was supposed to be an assault gun, but it came out a bit on the heavy side. So, they decided to leave it for defensive purposes.

Only 12 of the were built. You won't see them deployed anywhere in the battlefield unless you are attacking a base on my own soil.

Also, there's a reason I'm going broke. All the nobles in my nation started wasting money on expensive and possibly impractical crap.


Okay then.
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Postby Grand Britannia » Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:17 pm

Image


Don't be fooled by the cannon, it actually extends inwards for the sake of size.

It can also be used as artillery.

Anyways, I'm just waiting for Alti to post.
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Postby New Emperica » Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:18 pm

Grand Britannia wrote:

Don't be fooled by the cannon, it actually extends inwards for the sake of size.

It can also be used as artillery.


*rolls eyes*

Let's just remember here...it's PT, not Steampunk.
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Postby Grand Britannia » Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:19 pm

New Emperica wrote:
Grand Britannia wrote:

Don't be fooled by the cannon, it actually extends inwards for the sake of size.

It can also be used as artillery.


*rolls eyes*

Let's just remember here...it's PT, not Steampunk.


Last I checked, it's no different from a WW2 era tank destroyer.
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Postby Imperial--japan » Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:21 pm

New Emperica wrote:
Grand Britannia wrote:

Don't be fooled by the cannon, it actually extends inwards for the sake of size.

It can also be used as artillery.


*rolls eyes*

Let's just remember here...it's PT, not Steampunk.

I thought we were doing PMT?
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Postby New Emperica » Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:21 pm

Imperial--japan wrote:I thought we were doing PMT?


Nope.
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Postby Grand Britannia » Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:22 pm

Imperial--japan wrote:
New Emperica wrote:
*rolls eyes*

Let's just remember here...it's PT, not Steampunk.

I thought we were doing PMT?


It's PT for the RP :meh:
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Postby Imperial--japan » Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:22 pm

Grand Britannia wrote:
Imperial--japan wrote:I thought we were doing PMT?


It's PT for the RP :meh:

Ew it is? >.>
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Postby Grand Britannia » Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:23 pm

Altaiire wrote:I was about to say... that thing is massive. It's going to be WAAAY too heavy if you want to put a reasonable-sized gun and and a fair amount of armor on it.

Well, okay... just don't expect it to move faster than a snail's crawl.


I know my WW2 tech.

If the Maus could go 3 miles an hour, I expect this to go at least 8 considering it has less armor.
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Postby Grand Britannia » Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:24 pm

Imperial--japan wrote:
Grand Britannia wrote:
It's PT for the RP :meh:

Ew it is? >.>


Yes D:<

You will like it! Or I will sick Jun after you 0:<
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Postby New Emperica » Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:24 pm

Grand Britannia wrote:
I know my WW2 tech.

If the Maus could go 3 miles an hour, I expect this to go at least 8 considering it has less armor.


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Postby YellowApple » Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:27 pm

Altaiire wrote:For the PT war:

(Image)

Type: Super-heavy Tank
Weight: 86.2 metric tons
Length: 11.1 m
Width: 4.39 m
Height: 2.84 m
Crew: 4
Main Armament: 105mm cannon with 62 rounds of ammunition
Secondary Armament: .50 caliber machine gun with 660 rounds of ammunition
Engine Horsepower: 704 hp
Power/weight: 8.2 hp/ton
Suspension: double track
Operation range: 160 km
Maximum speed: 18 kph
Maximum Armor Thickness: 30.5 cm


That RP must be very far PT if you're deploying fixed-front tank barrels. WWII had (relatively) free-rotating turrets galore.

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Postby New Emperica » Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:28 pm

YellowApple wrote:That RP must be very far PT if you're deploying fixed-front tank barrels. WWII had (relatively) free-rotating turrets galore.


Yes! YellowApple is here to save me!
This is supposed to be WWII tech. I have a clone of the T-34 (for the most part), but these guys are...yeah...
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Postby Altaiire » Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:28 pm

It's also much, much bigger. At lest 24 feet tall, by my estimates. Bigger = more armor to cover the whole thing. More armor = more weight. Do you mean less total armor or less armor thickness? If it's the former your armor is going to be extremely thin, and if its the latter it's going to be extremely heavy. you can take the high weight, but remember your engine has to propel that weight. Big engine = more space taken up = less room for ammo, armor, or people.
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Postby Altaiire » Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:33 pm

YellowApple wrote:
Altaiire wrote:For the PT war:

(Image)

Type: Super-heavy Tank
Weight: 86.2 metric tons
Length: 11.1 m
Width: 4.39 m
Height: 2.84 m
Crew: 4
Main Armament: 105mm cannon with 62 rounds of ammunition
Secondary Armament: .50 caliber machine gun with 660 rounds of ammunition
Engine Horsepower: 704 hp
Power/weight: 8.2 hp/ton
Suspension: double track
Operation range: 160 km
Maximum speed: 18 kph
Maximum Armor Thickness: 30.5 cm


That RP must be very far PT if you're deploying fixed-front tank barrels. WWII had (relatively) free-rotating turrets galore.


It's an actual US prototype tank. They never used it for the obvious reasons (slow, heavy, poor manuverability.) I gave it an engine with slightly more horsepower to compensate (They used the Pershing's engine in this tank, which was partially why it was so slow,) but it's primarily designed for sieging fortifications or being utilized as a tank destroyer. (They switched the designation to GMC at some point, which is more of what it REALLY is, then switched it back.) The barrel does have some degree of rotation (10° right, 11° left traverse, 19.5° to -5°elevation.) The lack of the turret is also another reason why it was scrapped in favor of the next two models, the T29 and T30, which both had rotating turrets.
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Postby Grand Britannia » Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:33 pm

Altaiire wrote:It's also much, much bigger. At lest 24 feet tall, by my estimates. Bigger = more armor to cover the whole thing. More armor = more weight. Do you mean less total armor or less armor thickness? If it's the former your armor is going to be extremely thin, and if its the latter it's going to be extremely heavy. you can take the high weight, but remember your engine has to propel that weight. Big engine = more space taken up = less room for ammo, armor, or people.


I sacrificed armor in the back.

Figured a defensive tank would have enough allied troops behind it to prevent the enemy from getting a drop on its back.
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Postby Imperial--japan » Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:39 pm

Anyways can you relink me to the thread so I can bomb vladivostok or however its spelled.
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Postby New Emperica » Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:40 pm

Imperial--japan wrote:Anyways can you relink me to the thread so I can bomb vladivostok or however its spelled.


Nyet! We agreed on you and the Union fighting over Hawaii being the starting point of the war!
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Postby Grand Britannia » Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:40 pm

Imperial--japan wrote:Anyways can you relink me to the thread so I can bomb vladivostok or however its spelled.


Semper Fi, comrade.
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Postby Imperial--japan » Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:40 pm

New Emperica wrote:
Imperial--japan wrote:Anyways can you relink me to the thread so I can bomb vladivostok or however its spelled.


Nyet! We agreed on you and the Union fighting over Hawaii being the starting point of the war!

And me being the aggressor when did I agree?
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Postby New Emperica » Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:42 pm

Imperial--japan wrote:Nyet! We agreed on you and the Union fighting over Hawaii being the starting point of the war!

And me being the aggressor when did I agree?[/quote]

I dunno! I just don't want to be the starting point for the war. The Union needs a reason to be involved. Maybe they attack a Hawaii owned by you? No idea.

EDIT: You said it yourself earlier: you don't want my Asian holdings.
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Postby Grand America » Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:44 pm

Imperial--japan wrote:
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Nyet! We agreed on you and the Union fighting over Hawaii being the starting point of the war!

And me being the aggressor when did I agree?


We never did.
Or rather, I never did. Which sums up to the same thing if you didn't either.

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Postby New Emperica » Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:47 pm

Grand America wrote:We never did.
Or rather, I never did. Which sums up to the same thing if you didn't either.

Emp: he gave me Hawaii. I can join for other reasons.


...? Well, I don't want to be attacked first either. Which leaves Bwitty.
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