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Kurosu
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Founded: Dec 09, 2011
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Postby Kurosu » Sat Dec 10, 2011 4:34 pm

Super Bwitain wrote:
Xanixi wrote:
Or maybe it was just me thinking about extremists not really having money, and the AK being a very cheap and reliable weapon.


Meh *waves hand*


Whatever happened to a trusty sword?

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Xanixi
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Postby Xanixi » Sat Dec 10, 2011 4:34 pm

Kurosu wrote:
Super Bwitain wrote:
Meh *waves hand*


Whatever happened to a trusty sword?


Humanity.
Grand Imperial Republic of Thedosia | Galactic Imperial Republic [FT]
DEFCON: [4]; Double Take
| Pop.: 508,191,116 | Area: 24.670.330 km2 | Demonym: Thedosian/Republic/Imperial |
| Military: 5,482,193 | GDP: US$32,842,135,458,524.96 | Lifespan: ~650 y/o |
Dr. Carl Sagan wrote:“They say astronomy is a humbling and character-building experience. There is perhaps no better demonstration of the folly of human conceits than this distant image of our tiny world. To me, it underscores our responsibility to deal more kindly with one another, and to preserve and cherish the pale blue dot, the only home we've ever known.”
Most Astounding Fact
#AupaAtleti #ContigoHastaElFinal
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Finium
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Postby Finium » Sat Dec 10, 2011 5:33 pm

Xanixi wrote:
Novum Finium wrote:Yes. I thought I should register this nation with the coalition.



Why? The other one is larger.

I messed up and posted under the wrong nation is another way to put it.

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Xanixi
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Postby Xanixi » Sat Dec 10, 2011 5:43 pm

Finium wrote:
Xanixi wrote:

Why? The other one is larger.

I messed up and posted under the wrong nation is another way to put it.


Oh.

1) Are you going to participate in the Coalition's Wargame Exercise?

2) Not sure if I mentioned it to you, but we have a region. If you want to join, just click my name and click on my region.
Grand Imperial Republic of Thedosia | Galactic Imperial Republic [FT]
DEFCON: [4]; Double Take
| Pop.: 508,191,116 | Area: 24.670.330 km2 | Demonym: Thedosian/Republic/Imperial |
| Military: 5,482,193 | GDP: US$32,842,135,458,524.96 | Lifespan: ~650 y/o |
Dr. Carl Sagan wrote:“They say astronomy is a humbling and character-building experience. There is perhaps no better demonstration of the folly of human conceits than this distant image of our tiny world. To me, it underscores our responsibility to deal more kindly with one another, and to preserve and cherish the pale blue dot, the only home we've ever known.”
Most Astounding Fact
#AupaAtleti #ContigoHastaElFinal
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New Emperica
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Postby New Emperica » Sat Dec 10, 2011 5:45 pm

XANI! I said keep region and alliance stuff seperate! As far as I'm concerned, the C.E.F. has 100% nothing to do with The Steel Coalition, and is only to be used during an attack on the region itself, not the coalition.
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Member of: Coalition of Steel & UDL.
"Xani is America again, your argument is invalid." - The CoS.
The Union of Emperican Socialist Republics | Emp. Defense Readiness: CON1
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Thanks to the IC trade deals, my economy is always two levels higher IC than it is in-game.
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Xanixi
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Postby Xanixi » Sat Dec 10, 2011 5:47 pm

New Emperica wrote:XANI! I said keep region and alliance stuff seperate! As far as I'm concerned, the C.E.F. has 100% nothing to do with The Steel Coalition, and is only to be used during an attack on the region itself, not the coalition.


Sorry, I figured that the C.E.F would also respond if the Coalition was attacked...
Largely because the rest of us are supposed to.

Can we make it the Coalition Expeditionary Force then?
Grand Imperial Republic of Thedosia | Galactic Imperial Republic [FT]
DEFCON: [4]; Double Take
| Pop.: 508,191,116 | Area: 24.670.330 km2 | Demonym: Thedosian/Republic/Imperial |
| Military: 5,482,193 | GDP: US$32,842,135,458,524.96 | Lifespan: ~650 y/o |
Dr. Carl Sagan wrote:“They say astronomy is a humbling and character-building experience. There is perhaps no better demonstration of the folly of human conceits than this distant image of our tiny world. To me, it underscores our responsibility to deal more kindly with one another, and to preserve and cherish the pale blue dot, the only home we've ever known.”
Most Astounding Fact
#AupaAtleti #ContigoHastaElFinal
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Finium
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Postby Finium » Sat Dec 10, 2011 5:51 pm

Xanixi wrote:
Finium wrote:I messed up and posted under the wrong nation is another way to put it.


Oh.

1) Are you going to participate in the Coalition's Wargame Exercise?

2) Not sure if I mentioned it to you, but we have a region. If you want to join, just click my name and click on my region.

No and no

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Xanixi
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Postby Xanixi » Sat Dec 10, 2011 5:52 pm

Finium wrote:
Xanixi wrote:
Oh.

1) Are you going to participate in the Coalition's Wargame Exercise?

2) Not sure if I mentioned it to you, but we have a region. If you want to join, just click my name and click on my region.

No and no



Ok and OK
Grand Imperial Republic of Thedosia | Galactic Imperial Republic [FT]
DEFCON: [4]; Double Take
| Pop.: 508,191,116 | Area: 24.670.330 km2 | Demonym: Thedosian/Republic/Imperial |
| Military: 5,482,193 | GDP: US$32,842,135,458,524.96 | Lifespan: ~650 y/o |
Dr. Carl Sagan wrote:“They say astronomy is a humbling and character-building experience. There is perhaps no better demonstration of the folly of human conceits than this distant image of our tiny world. To me, it underscores our responsibility to deal more kindly with one another, and to preserve and cherish the pale blue dot, the only home we've ever known.”
Most Astounding Fact
#AupaAtleti #ContigoHastaElFinal
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New Emperica
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Founded: Jul 12, 2008
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Postby New Emperica » Sat Dec 10, 2011 5:53 pm

No! Capitol Alliance was never supposed to be related to The Steel Coalition IC. It's just random chance/dumb luck that a bunch of other members of the Coalition joined, including you. C.E.F. forces are for inter-regional RP wars. Like if Kurupt Emerica had declared war on us and we deemed their crap RPing worth our while to go along with, the C.E.F. would respond. Technically, the rest of the coalition would have to respond because another Coalition nation was under attack, but still. C.E.F. and Coalition forces are separate.
All become one with Emperica, da?
The Ultimate Solution to World Peace
Emperica: Fack...I think I'm a fangirl!
Fus Ro Dah!
Member of: Coalition of Steel & UDL.
"Xani is America again, your argument is invalid." - The CoS.
The Union of Emperican Socialist Republics | Emp. Defense Readiness: CON1
Factbook | Emperican Diplomatic Initiative | Church of the Aslantic Union

Thanks to the IC trade deals, my economy is always two levels higher IC than it is in-game.
Political Graph
Economic Left/Right: -6.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.01
Pro-LGBT! Pro-Gun!

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Xanixi
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Postby Xanixi » Sat Dec 10, 2011 5:56 pm

New Emperica wrote:Technically, the rest of the coalition would have to respond because another Coalition nation was under attack, but still. C.E.F. and Coalition forces are separate.


And it works the other way around! If one Coalition member gets attacked, then the other Coalition members join. Why would we leave a potential asset out of the fight?
Grand Imperial Republic of Thedosia | Galactic Imperial Republic [FT]
DEFCON: [4]; Double Take
| Pop.: 508,191,116 | Area: 24.670.330 km2 | Demonym: Thedosian/Republic/Imperial |
| Military: 5,482,193 | GDP: US$32,842,135,458,524.96 | Lifespan: ~650 y/o |
Dr. Carl Sagan wrote:“They say astronomy is a humbling and character-building experience. There is perhaps no better demonstration of the folly of human conceits than this distant image of our tiny world. To me, it underscores our responsibility to deal more kindly with one another, and to preserve and cherish the pale blue dot, the only home we've ever known.”
Most Astounding Fact
#AupaAtleti #ContigoHastaElFinal
American and Spanish

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New Emperica
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Founded: Jul 12, 2008
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Postby New Emperica » Sat Dec 10, 2011 5:59 pm

Well, still. That isn't fair to the rest of the members of Capitol Alliance who contributed to the force (which is none at the moment, but for in the future) who aren't members of the coalition but have their troops shipped off to fight a war their leaders don't want to fight.
All become one with Emperica, da?
The Ultimate Solution to World Peace
Emperica: Fack...I think I'm a fangirl!
Fus Ro Dah!
Member of: Coalition of Steel & UDL.
"Xani is America again, your argument is invalid." - The CoS.
The Union of Emperican Socialist Republics | Emp. Defense Readiness: CON1
Factbook | Emperican Diplomatic Initiative | Church of the Aslantic Union

Thanks to the IC trade deals, my economy is always two levels higher IC than it is in-game.
Political Graph
Economic Left/Right: -6.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.01
Pro-LGBT! Pro-Gun!

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Xanixi
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Postby Xanixi » Sat Dec 10, 2011 6:03 pm

New Emperica wrote:Well, still. That isn't fair to the rest of the members of Capitol Alliance who contributed to the force (which is none at the moment, but for in the future) who aren't members of the coalition but have their troops shipped off to fight a war their leaders don't want to fight.


The entirety of the C.E.F. doesn't contribute then. Just the troops of the nations that are going to fight.
Grand Imperial Republic of Thedosia | Galactic Imperial Republic [FT]
DEFCON: [4]; Double Take
| Pop.: 508,191,116 | Area: 24.670.330 km2 | Demonym: Thedosian/Republic/Imperial |
| Military: 5,482,193 | GDP: US$32,842,135,458,524.96 | Lifespan: ~650 y/o |
Dr. Carl Sagan wrote:“They say astronomy is a humbling and character-building experience. There is perhaps no better demonstration of the folly of human conceits than this distant image of our tiny world. To me, it underscores our responsibility to deal more kindly with one another, and to preserve and cherish the pale blue dot, the only home we've ever known.”
Most Astounding Fact
#AupaAtleti #ContigoHastaElFinal
American and Spanish

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New Emperica
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Founded: Jul 12, 2008
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Postby New Emperica » Sat Dec 10, 2011 6:08 pm

But what if the entirety of Capitol Alliance is attacked while those troops are off?
All become one with Emperica, da?
The Ultimate Solution to World Peace
Emperica: Fack...I think I'm a fangirl!
Fus Ro Dah!
Member of: Coalition of Steel & UDL.
"Xani is America again, your argument is invalid." - The CoS.
The Union of Emperican Socialist Republics | Emp. Defense Readiness: CON1
Factbook | Emperican Diplomatic Initiative | Church of the Aslantic Union

Thanks to the IC trade deals, my economy is always two levels higher IC than it is in-game.
Political Graph
Economic Left/Right: -6.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.01
Pro-LGBT! Pro-Gun!

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Xanixi
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Postby Xanixi » Sat Dec 10, 2011 6:13 pm

New Emperica wrote:But what if the entirety of Capitol Alliance is attacked while those troops are off?


Then...

1) The troops of those nations that are in Capitol Alliance but not the Coalition can still fight

2) The Non-C.E.F. Troops of the Coalition Nations can still fight.

3) All together, we have a massive army, if we combine them. C.E.F. isnt the only army that can fight a Capitol-Wide Invasion.
Grand Imperial Republic of Thedosia | Galactic Imperial Republic [FT]
DEFCON: [4]; Double Take
| Pop.: 508,191,116 | Area: 24.670.330 km2 | Demonym: Thedosian/Republic/Imperial |
| Military: 5,482,193 | GDP: US$32,842,135,458,524.96 | Lifespan: ~650 y/o |
Dr. Carl Sagan wrote:“They say astronomy is a humbling and character-building experience. There is perhaps no better demonstration of the folly of human conceits than this distant image of our tiny world. To me, it underscores our responsibility to deal more kindly with one another, and to preserve and cherish the pale blue dot, the only home we've ever known.”
Most Astounding Fact
#AupaAtleti #ContigoHastaElFinal
American and Spanish

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New Emperica
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Postby New Emperica » Sat Dec 10, 2011 6:16 pm

Yes, but the idea of the C.E.F. is to create a regional, integrated, rapid response, organized force. All the nations retaliating separately could lead to many mistakes and accidents.
All become one with Emperica, da?
The Ultimate Solution to World Peace
Emperica: Fack...I think I'm a fangirl!
Fus Ro Dah!
Member of: Coalition of Steel & UDL.
"Xani is America again, your argument is invalid." - The CoS.
The Union of Emperican Socialist Republics | Emp. Defense Readiness: CON1
Factbook | Emperican Diplomatic Initiative | Church of the Aslantic Union

Thanks to the IC trade deals, my economy is always two levels higher IC than it is in-game.
Political Graph
Economic Left/Right: -6.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.01
Pro-LGBT! Pro-Gun!

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Super Bwitain
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Postby Super Bwitain » Sat Dec 10, 2011 6:18 pm

Shall we start posting in the zombie thread?
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Xanixi
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Postby Xanixi » Sat Dec 10, 2011 6:19 pm

New Emperica wrote:Yes, but the idea of the C.E.F. is to create a regional, integrated, rapid response, organized force. All the nations retaliating separately could lead to many mistakes and accidents.


If they managed to assault each of our nations at the exact same time, they'd be fighting one army for each territory. In that case, we wouldn't help each other, as we are trying to fight them off our own nation. Once we do, we can build up more C.E.F Forces, and do an organized Counter-Attack.
Grand Imperial Republic of Thedosia | Galactic Imperial Republic [FT]
DEFCON: [4]; Double Take
| Pop.: 508,191,116 | Area: 24.670.330 km2 | Demonym: Thedosian/Republic/Imperial |
| Military: 5,482,193 | GDP: US$32,842,135,458,524.96 | Lifespan: ~650 y/o |
Dr. Carl Sagan wrote:“They say astronomy is a humbling and character-building experience. There is perhaps no better demonstration of the folly of human conceits than this distant image of our tiny world. To me, it underscores our responsibility to deal more kindly with one another, and to preserve and cherish the pale blue dot, the only home we've ever known.”
Most Astounding Fact
#AupaAtleti #ContigoHastaElFinal
American and Spanish

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New Emperica
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Postby New Emperica » Sat Dec 10, 2011 6:20 pm

....
All become one with Emperica, da?
The Ultimate Solution to World Peace
Emperica: Fack...I think I'm a fangirl!
Fus Ro Dah!
Member of: Coalition of Steel & UDL.
"Xani is America again, your argument is invalid." - The CoS.
The Union of Emperican Socialist Republics | Emp. Defense Readiness: CON1
Factbook | Emperican Diplomatic Initiative | Church of the Aslantic Union

Thanks to the IC trade deals, my economy is always two levels higher IC than it is in-game.
Political Graph
Economic Left/Right: -6.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.01
Pro-LGBT! Pro-Gun!

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Super Bwitain
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Postby Super Bwitain » Sat Dec 10, 2011 6:22 pm

Xanixi wrote:
New Emperica wrote:Yes, but the idea of the C.E.F. is to create a regional, integrated, rapid response, organized force. All the nations retaliating separately could lead to many mistakes and accidents.


If they managed to assault each of our nations at the exact same time, they'd be fighting one army for each territory. In that case, we wouldn't help each other, as we are trying to fight them off our own nation. Once we do, we can build up more C.E.F Forces, and do an organized Counter-Attack.


But they wouldn't assault each of our nations at the same time. They'd likely focus their power on eliminating us one at a time. It would be easier too, if they drew our armies into one nation, and successfully beat them. There'd be very little active units defending our respective nations.
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Xanixi
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Postby Xanixi » Sat Dec 10, 2011 6:24 pm

Can we make it the Coalition Expeditionary Force then?
Those in Capitol Alliance but not in CoS can still add forces, but will choose whether or not to send them if Coalition Forces get attacked.
And the same thing for Coalition Forces, they choose if they do or don't deploy to protect a Capitol member.
Grand Imperial Republic of Thedosia | Galactic Imperial Republic [FT]
DEFCON: [4]; Double Take
| Pop.: 508,191,116 | Area: 24.670.330 km2 | Demonym: Thedosian/Republic/Imperial |
| Military: 5,482,193 | GDP: US$32,842,135,458,524.96 | Lifespan: ~650 y/o |
Dr. Carl Sagan wrote:“They say astronomy is a humbling and character-building experience. There is perhaps no better demonstration of the folly of human conceits than this distant image of our tiny world. To me, it underscores our responsibility to deal more kindly with one another, and to preserve and cherish the pale blue dot, the only home we've ever known.”
Most Astounding Fact
#AupaAtleti #ContigoHastaElFinal
American and Spanish

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Xanixi
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Postby Xanixi » Sat Dec 10, 2011 6:25 pm

Super Bwitain wrote:
Xanixi wrote:
If they managed to assault each of our nations at the exact same time, they'd be fighting one army for each territory. In that case, we wouldn't help each other, as we are trying to fight them off our own nation. Once we do, we can build up more C.E.F Forces, and do an organized Counter-Attack.


But they wouldn't assault each of our nations at the same time. They'd likely focus their power on eliminating us one at a time. It would be easier too, if they drew our armies into one nation, and successfully beat them. There'd be very little active units defending our respective nations.



Then the one nation holds out, while the others organize a successful counter-strike.
All of us know we can hold out, even for a while. And in that while, we could successfully plan a counter-strike.
Grand Imperial Republic of Thedosia | Galactic Imperial Republic [FT]
DEFCON: [4]; Double Take
| Pop.: 508,191,116 | Area: 24.670.330 km2 | Demonym: Thedosian/Republic/Imperial |
| Military: 5,482,193 | GDP: US$32,842,135,458,524.96 | Lifespan: ~650 y/o |
Dr. Carl Sagan wrote:“They say astronomy is a humbling and character-building experience. There is perhaps no better demonstration of the folly of human conceits than this distant image of our tiny world. To me, it underscores our responsibility to deal more kindly with one another, and to preserve and cherish the pale blue dot, the only home we've ever known.”
Most Astounding Fact
#AupaAtleti #ContigoHastaElFinal
American and Spanish

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New Emperica
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Founded: Jul 12, 2008
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Postby New Emperica » Sat Dec 10, 2011 6:48 pm

Nein! Enough, comrades. We're not changing anything for now, okay...?
All become one with Emperica, da?
The Ultimate Solution to World Peace
Emperica: Fack...I think I'm a fangirl!
Fus Ro Dah!
Member of: Coalition of Steel & UDL.
"Xani is America again, your argument is invalid." - The CoS.
The Union of Emperican Socialist Republics | Emp. Defense Readiness: CON1
Factbook | Emperican Diplomatic Initiative | Church of the Aslantic Union

Thanks to the IC trade deals, my economy is always two levels higher IC than it is in-game.
Political Graph
Economic Left/Right: -6.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.01
Pro-LGBT! Pro-Gun!

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New Babylonia
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Founded: Oct 14, 2011
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Postby New Babylonia » Sat Dec 10, 2011 6:51 pm

National Information:
Nation's Full (RP) Name: New Babylonia
Nation's Population: 284 million
Nation's Leader & Title: President Carl Stevens
Nation's Government Type: Democracy
Military Size: 17,040,000 (6%)
Strongest branch of military: Air Force

Does Your Nation Support the Institution of Slavery?
[ ] Yes, We Do -or- [X] No, We Do Not

Does Your Nation Belong to any Alliances?
[X] Yes, We Do -or- [ ] No, We Do Not

If so, please list them here:
[ The ICAC. although i will probably leave due to poor leadership and other issues. ]

Roleplay Samples:
1. http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=152290
2. http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=152171&p=7708838#p7708838
3. -- Optional Link --
4. -- Optional Link --
i do honestly think these a horrible examples, but the only ones i have. mainly because i'm not living to my full potential, and also most RP's i try to get in end up collapsing because the OP goes inactive.

Do You Agree to Aid Coalition Nations Under Attack?
[X] Yes, We Will -or- [ ] No, We Will Not

Do You Agree to Uphold the Principles of the Coaliton?
[X] Yes, We Do -or- [ ] No, We Do Not
The power of self is unlimited and ultimate, an unending wave of pure energy and being that could never be stopped, apart from time and forever ingrained into the fabrics of all being, this is the truth of Korrelian Existentialism.

⚧Copy and paste this in your sig if you passed biology and know gender and sex aren't the same thing ⚧
Pronouns? Just use whatever, it's all the same to me :P
You will always have your friends, with your friends, you will never be alone. There will always be a light. Friendship is Magic, its the magic that brings the most glimmering lights of hope to the darkest of worlds. And as long as you have it, you will never have to be afraid of the dark. - Me, New Babylonia ^^

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Xanixi
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Founded: Aug 04, 2011
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Postby Xanixi » Sat Dec 10, 2011 6:56 pm

The Imperial Military has recently reached to be 4.2 percent of the population!
Grand Imperial Republic of Thedosia | Galactic Imperial Republic [FT]
DEFCON: [4]; Double Take
| Pop.: 508,191,116 | Area: 24.670.330 km2 | Demonym: Thedosian/Republic/Imperial |
| Military: 5,482,193 | GDP: US$32,842,135,458,524.96 | Lifespan: ~650 y/o |
Dr. Carl Sagan wrote:“They say astronomy is a humbling and character-building experience. There is perhaps no better demonstration of the folly of human conceits than this distant image of our tiny world. To me, it underscores our responsibility to deal more kindly with one another, and to preserve and cherish the pale blue dot, the only home we've ever known.”
Most Astounding Fact
#AupaAtleti #ContigoHastaElFinal
American and Spanish

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Xanixi
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Postby Xanixi » Sat Dec 10, 2011 7:48 pm

I see to have forgotten how the Goshawks and Valkyries work!

They are both helicopters, of sort. They have their rotors pointed upwards to be able to move up and down like helicopters, but the rotors are on a separate part of the helicopter, which allows it to move to aim forward, which allows the aircraft to act as an airplane. This is the case for both of those helicopters, but not for the AH-80.
Grand Imperial Republic of Thedosia | Galactic Imperial Republic [FT]
DEFCON: [4]; Double Take
| Pop.: 508,191,116 | Area: 24.670.330 km2 | Demonym: Thedosian/Republic/Imperial |
| Military: 5,482,193 | GDP: US$32,842,135,458,524.96 | Lifespan: ~650 y/o |
Dr. Carl Sagan wrote:“They say astronomy is a humbling and character-building experience. There is perhaps no better demonstration of the folly of human conceits than this distant image of our tiny world. To me, it underscores our responsibility to deal more kindly with one another, and to preserve and cherish the pale blue dot, the only home we've ever known.”
Most Astounding Fact
#AupaAtleti #ContigoHastaElFinal
American and Spanish

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