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Urmanian
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Postby Urmanian » Mon Oct 10, 2011 12:41 pm

Sol Bella wrote:(OOC: Just wanted to say, we were mentioned on TVtropes.org's page on Nationstates. Good job, everypony, we've become well-known enough to have articles outside of NS. I wonder if NSwiki has anythign on us...)


http://youtu.be/NJ3ZGhzFx4Q?t=5s
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YellowApple
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Postby YellowApple » Mon Oct 10, 2011 12:48 pm

Sol Bella wrote:(OOC: Just wanted to say, we were mentioned on TVtropes.org's page on Nationstates. Good job, everypony, we've become well-known enough to have articles outside of NS. I wonder if NSwiki has anythign on us...)


OOC: I'm all in favor of creating an NSwiki page, and will even help in creating it, being decent at wiki formatting.

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Sol Bella wrote:(OOC: Just wanted to say, we were mentioned on TVtropes.org's page on Nationstates. Good job, everypony, we've become well-known enough to have articles outside of NS. I wonder if NSwiki has anythign on us...)


http://youtu.be/NJ3ZGhzFx4Q?t=5s


OOC: I couldn't help but note how much deeper Pinkie's voice is when she's crying in this clip.

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Postby Saurisisia » Mon Oct 10, 2011 12:54 pm

((OOC: Imeriata, NN, TKR, and the CoPS are mentioned in the TVtropes page on NS, but I'm not? *Sigh*))

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Official Statement from the Saurisian Government

Our apologies for what happened during the ongoing Whairtia incident. Let us explain: you see, we have had close relations with Whairtia for years. The reason for our deployment of the carrier is to ensure no one invades our ally, yet we personally hoped that the CoPS would attempt to negotiate with Whairtia concerning the entire incident. We remained largely neutral, with the exception of the carrier deployment. We sincerely hope for the best and less costly solution to the crisis. If you still refuse accepting us observer status, we will understand your reasons for doing so.
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Urmanian
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Postby Urmanian » Mon Oct 10, 2011 12:55 pm

(Well, actually, due to me firing the ignore cannon at Whairtia's thread...)

The GPH votes aye on Saurisia's admission.
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Eadesiopia
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Postby Eadesiopia » Mon Oct 10, 2011 1:04 pm

YellowApple wrote:
Sol Bella wrote:(OOC: Just wanted to say, we were mentioned on TVtropes.org's page on Nationstates. Good job, everypony, we've become well-known enough to have articles outside of NS. I wonder if NSwiki has anythign on us...)


OOC: I'm all in favor of creating an NSwiki page, and will even help in creating it, being decent at wiki formatting.



OOC: I couldn't help but note how much deeper Pinkie's voice is when she's crying in this clip.


That's actually probably something i'd be able to help with too, (the NS wiki bit) I may be a lazy git, but i'm pretty good at wiki editing / html (if the wiki allows html... some do, others don't)

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Strykla
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Postby Strykla » Mon Oct 10, 2011 1:06 pm

Strykla resubmits its observer application.

Strykla wrote:Official Missive from the Government of Strykla

Due to the present course of Strykla's relations with ponyist and pony-allied nations, Strykla requests to be an observer upon open the Coalition of Ponyist States. Even though Strykla is able to observe on all open meeting taken place upon this forum, it is requested that Strykla is able to do so with the consent of the Coalition of Ponyist States.

Regards,

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Urmanian
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Postby Urmanian » Mon Oct 10, 2011 1:08 pm

Strykla wrote:
Strykla wrote:Official Missive from the Government of Strykla

Due to the present course of Strykla's relations with ponyist and pony-allied nations, Strykla requests to be an observer upon open the Coalition of Ponyist States. Even though Strykla is able to observe on all open meeting taken place upon this forum, it is requested that Strykla is able to do so with the consent of the Coalition of Ponyist States.

Regards,

Quiescetese Strykla


...What is this 'forum' you're talking about? Anyways, the GPH votes 'aye', I guess...
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Strykla
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Postby Strykla » Mon Oct 10, 2011 1:10 pm

Urmanian wrote:
Strykla wrote:


...What is this 'forum' you're talking about? Anyways, the GPH votes 'aye', I guess...

Okay, coalition, thread, whatever you want to call it.
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Urmanian
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Postby Urmanian » Mon Oct 10, 2011 1:11 pm

Strykla wrote:Okay, coalition, thread, whatever you want to call it.


OOC: The fourth wall, it hurts...
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Saphirasia
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Postby Saphirasia » Mon Oct 10, 2011 1:13 pm

Strykla wrote:Strykla resubmits its observer application.

Strykla wrote:Official Missive from the Government of Strykla

Due to the present course of Strykla's relations with ponyist and pony-allied nations, Strykla requests to be an observer upon open the Coalition of Ponyist States. Even though Strykla is able to observe on all open meeting taken place upon this forum, it is requested that Strykla is able to do so with the consent of the Coalition of Ponyist States.

Regards,

Quiescetese Strykla

Unless the nation of Strykla can provide evidence unequivocally showing a change from it's previous anti-pony stance, the nation of Saphirasia votes 'nay'.
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Zkandinavia
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Postby Zkandinavia » Mon Oct 10, 2011 1:14 pm

cool. 8)

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Postby Strykla » Mon Oct 10, 2011 1:16 pm

Saphirasia wrote:
Strykla wrote:Strykla resubmits its observer application.


Unless the nation of Strykla can provide evidence unequivocally showing a change from it's previous anti-pony stance, the nation of Saphirasia votes 'nay'.

Strykla is, at this time, not willing to change its stance. Though war may prove imminent, Strykla always tries, when and where possible, to not be deceptive. 'Cutting through the crap' would be an appropriate metaphor.
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Edlefuelle
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Postby Edlefuelle » Mon Oct 10, 2011 1:19 pm

Sol Bella wrote:(OOC: Just wanted to say, we were mentioned on TVtropes.org's page on Nationstates. Good job, everypony, we've become well-known enough to have articles outside of NS. I wonder if NSwiki has anythign on us...)
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Enatai
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Postby Enatai » Mon Oct 10, 2011 2:56 pm

Lubyak wrote:OOC: Hey Enatai, I just realized I never got added to the list of members in the OP...could I get added? Please? :)

YellowApple wrote:OOC: Same here, contributing to my lack of certainty as to whether YellowApple has been recognized as a member or observer, if at all, given the IC uncertainty presented by YellowApple's now-nonexistent policies of slavery.

Muffinvania wrote:OOC: also Muffinvania *puppy dog whimper eyes*

Done, done, and done.

Urmanian wrote:
Crystal Spires wrote:1. What is real to a follower of Ponyism?


Existance of magic and belief in the Regal Sisters as divine beings of the highest order is something Ponyists consider real that can be treated with skepticism by followers of other faiths or lack thereof, though both are more or less scientifically proven facts. Other than that, the average Ponyist's image of reality isn't that much different from the average.

Crystal Spires wrote:2. Who is well off in Ponyism?


Anyone! The Regal Sisters don't play favourites, and whether you are a human, a pony or a diamond dog, it's your personal qualities that matter in the end. Your social standing and so on don't matter either.

Crystal Spires wrote:3. Who or what kind of sentient being would you consider to be an ideal ponyist?


The Regal Sisters themselves or the six ponies that hold the elements of harmony: our dear leader Twilight Sparkle, Pinkie Pie, Applejack, Fluttershy, Rainbow Dash and Rarity.

Crystal Spires wrote:4. How does one become the ideal ponyist with regards to the third answer?


By perfecting your moral image by adhering to the Elements of Harmony (Magic, Laughter, Honesty, Kindness, Loyalty and Generosity) and the magic of friendship.

Crystal Spires wrote:1. Ideals of Reality and Truth (for example Creation Stories or specific ideals held to be true)


As I've mentioned before, belief in magic of friendship, the power of the Elements of Harmony and worship of the Regal Sisters are the cornerstones of Ponyism.

Crystal Spires wrote:2. View of the Value of Sentience


Any sentient being is to be loved and tolerated.

Crystal Spires wrote:3. Intuitivity (View beyond the physical)


Could you elaborate this question, please? It's pretty vague.

Crystal Spires wrote:4. Morality (Personal Behavior Values)


One's moral image is to be measured by how does one follow the Elements of Harmony. No being is inherently evil - even the blackest soul can be remedied with magic of friendship.

Crystal Spires wrote:5. Social Responsibility (Group Behavior Values)


Friendship is the most important value in Ponyism. Collectivism is also held dear (umad Hippostania), everypony's role is important to the herd as a whole.

I hope that answers your questions.


-Sterling Silver, the Greater Pony Herd's representative in the Coalition

Sterling Silver, we couldn't have put it better ourselves! We believe this may do well to be posted officially.

Conclespia wrote:Hippostania said that there was, so yeah.

Hippostania is wrong, there is no such rule outright stating that you cannot be both a member of LUNA and the Coalition of Ponyist States. It is merely that Hippostania is pointing out a conflict of interest, which I am increasingly seeing between Hippostania and member states, due in part to Hippostania's own tendency to stir up international... debate, shall we say?

In any case, the Brony Kingdom of Enatai's official position at this point in time is that unless there is outright hostility, this is between individual member states. It isn't the Coalition's business to go around dictating every facet of its member states' lives. If there is outright hostility or aggression or any real sign of distress between member nations, the member nation at fault will be penalized and potentially kicked out of the Coalition, but so far as we can tell, no member nation has so far attacked Hippostania for anything.

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Saphirasia wrote:No. We do not support genocide of any kind. This country was founded by people who were escaping one such attempt. I would also like to review the evidence that you base your claim on.


viewtopic.php?f=5&t=144351

OOC: Ignore cannons profoundly fired at the thread, but still, admitting Saurisia into CoPS now is like admitting the Third Reich into some kind of a Zionist organisation.

More like admitting fascist Italy into a zionist organization, but the point still stands. We really do hate to kick Saurisia out over basically remaining loyal to dinosaurs, though. Loyalty is an element of harmony, and though they did bomb a pony country to help a vehemently anti-Ponyist nation, which is unmistakably anti-Ponyist itself, we also feel... a little disappointed that this all had to play out this way. Saurisia has always seemed like a reasonable, upstanding nation, and it seems... We aren't sure, it seems like a real shame, is all.

Saurisisia wrote:((OOC: Imeriata, NN, TKR, and the CoPS are mentioned in the TVtropes page on NS, but I'm not? *Sigh*))

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Official Statement from the Saurisian Government

Our apologies for what happened during the ongoing Whairtia incident. Let us explain: you see, we have had close relations with Whairtia for years. The reason for our deployment of the carrier is to ensure no one invades our ally, yet we personally hoped that the CoPS would attempt to negotiate with Whairtia concerning the entire incident. We remained largely neutral, with the exception of the carrier deployment. We sincerely hope for the best and less costly solution to the crisis. If you still refuse accepting us observer status, we will understand your reasons for doing so.


Given the above, the Brony Kingdom of Enatai votes that Saurisia be allowed to keep its membership status.
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Postby Muffinvania » Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:16 pm

ooc: woot thank you Enatai!
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Postby Draconikus » Mon Oct 10, 2011 6:04 pm

Whilst loyalty is an admirable trait, even Rainbow Dash realised that some friends are not worth keeping. This isn't to say those friends can never be welcomed back, but the issues that resulted in their expulsion must be resolved first.
As such, I find Saurisia's actions in support of mass ponycide to be in breach of the ideals CoPS is founded on, and as such, vote that their observer status be stripped from them. Saurisia attempts to excuse this lapse by claiming they were waiting for a representative from CoPS to take to the field. Even had the senior members of CoPS not fired ignore cannons at the situation, Saurisia's lack of action in preventing, or even limiting, Whairtia's rampage, shows they cannot be trusted to act with the interests of the Coalition in this, the most dire of circumstances. If they cannot act so at such a time, why should we beleive they would act so when other situations arise?

ooc: Saphirasia, whilst their character posts make good reading, we have no IC method of knowing what is going on in their governmental offices. As such, our IC decisions need to be made based on the fact that a Saurisian battlefleet is anchored near Whairtia, and they have released a statement declaring they shall interpret any military action against Whairtia as a declaration of war on them. As for your beleif we are acting on the basis of their species... They support a nation which filmed the cooking and tearing in two of a live pony. If that isn't basis enough to throw them out, I don't know what is.
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Postby Muffinvania » Mon Oct 10, 2011 6:43 pm

The Grand Duchy of Muffinvania votes nay in regards to the proposed Observer Nation status.
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Crystal Spires
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Postby Crystal Spires » Mon Oct 10, 2011 10:38 pm

To The Coalition of Ponyist States,


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We of Crystal Spires would like to thank you for allowing us to enhance our dossiers at our National Library at the High Council, but unfortunately this letter will be a rather somber one. There has been a movement against ponies and several genocidal actions that we of Crystal Spires tried to prevent, but have sadly failed to prevent in the nation of Fantoa. With over 89 ponies executed and thousands at large for possible execution we wish to apologize for our failure to have acted sooner, and I, Maven Auryn, personally wish my personal sympathies to all of you. You have our greatest condolences and we would like to issue a formal warning of a possible alliance moving against you created by the genocidal nation in question. We of Crystal Spires cannot issue a formal condemnation in the World Assembly on Fantoa as they are not World Assembly members, but we have tried hard to reason with Fantoa in order to release the captives and have granted the ponies asylum, but I fear this issue is one that we cannot turn a blind eye to any longer.

From your friendly non-affiliated non observer,

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Re: The Coalition of Ponyist States

Postby Earth Sphere Coalition » Mon Oct 10, 2011 10:40 pm

OOC: viewtopic.php?t=145105

Also, link to TV Tropes page?
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Postby Immoren » Mon Oct 10, 2011 11:55 pm

Earth Sphere Coalition wrote:OOC: viewtopic.php?t=145105

OOC:Not again. :palm: It is far too early in the morning for me to take these kind of threads.
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Postby Conclespia » Tue Oct 11, 2011 12:04 am

Immoren wrote:
Earth Sphere Coalition wrote:OOC: viewtopic.php?t=145105

OOC:Not again. :palm: It is far too early in the morning for me to take these kind of threads.

OOC: It's retarded. It'll just end up sparking a war that's costly for all our countries.
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Postby Earth Sphere Coalition » Tue Oct 11, 2011 12:06 am

Conclespia wrote:
Immoren wrote:OOC:Not again. :palm: It is far too early in the morning for me to take these kind of threads.

OOC: It's retarded. It'll just end up sparking a war that's costly for all our countries.

OOC: I say we speed up the military conference and begin preparing our nations for war, just in case.
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Postby Hippostania » Tue Oct 11, 2011 12:06 am

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From: Lyra, Parliamentary Chancellor of the Pony Republic of Hippostania
To: To all members of the Coalition of Ponyist States




We are strongly against Strykla's membership, based on this:
Strykla wrote:Leader(s) of Hippostania,

It has not so recently come to the attention of the Stryklan government, Lord-Chancellor Lazerbeak, and Bonecrusher the Greatest that you are actively harboring these 'ponies' (Equus ferus caballus) which are all declared a threat to the sovereignty of Strykla and all its glory. Before now, the Stryklans have turned a blind eye to these activities, but it has reached critical points and now the population of Strykla grows restless and demands action from the government. We have little choice: Since it is probable that you will not renounce these ponies, Strykla is now under a state of emergency and preparing for war against all ponies.

Regards, &tc &tc,
Me




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Postby Conclespia » Tue Oct 11, 2011 12:12 am

After seeing Hippostania's proof, we hereby vote 'NAY' for Strykia's membership.
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