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Muffinvania
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Postby The Elite Mega Herd » Sun Oct 09, 2011 3:17 pm

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Postby Lubyak » Sun Oct 09, 2011 3:28 pm

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Official Communique from the Dominion of the Lubyak

For Muffinvania we vote AYE.
For Saurisia, espescially in light of its actions against the pony states, we vote NAY.

As for the Conclespia's actions we can not advocate any action against them. The Coalition holds no grudge against the political ideology of nations, and espescially since they are currently under the severe effects of a foreign invasion, we can not afford to abandon them. We vote NAY against any condmenation of Conclespia.

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Enatai
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Postby Enatai » Sun Oct 09, 2011 5:09 pm

Immoren wrote:It seems that our application has been falling to deaf ears.

The Brony Kingdom of Enatai hereby approves Immoren's application for membership, provided that Immoren forgives the delay.

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A DECLARATION OF INVESTIGATION


Until further notice, the nation of Saurisia will be under investigation for conflicting allegiances to the violently anti-ponyist, socialist nation of Whairtia. Apparently this is due to Whairtia being a nation of dinosaurs, as Saurisia is. While we respect and indeed even applaud Saurisia's desire to remain at least neutral or benevolent towards ponyism and ponies as a nation unto itself, we hope that Saurisia understands that there are certain base standards to which we hold even observer nations, and we will not accept undue aggression or military action towards any member nation or non-member ponyist nation.
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Postby Lubyak » Sun Oct 09, 2011 6:20 pm

OOC: Hey Enatai, I just realized I never got added to the list of members in the OP...could I get added? Please? :)

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Postby YellowApple » Sun Oct 09, 2011 6:29 pm

Lubyak wrote:OOC: Hey Enatai, I just realized I never got added to the list of members in the OP...could I get added? Please? :)


OOC: Same here, contributing to my lack of certainty as to whether YellowApple has been recognized as a member or observer, if at all, given the IC uncertainty presented by YellowApple's now-nonexistent policies of slavery.

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Muffinvania
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Postby Muffinvania » Sun Oct 09, 2011 6:41 pm

YellowApple wrote:
Lubyak wrote:OOC: Hey Enatai, I just realized I never got added to the list of members in the OP...could I get added? Please? :)


OOC: Same here, contributing to my lack of certainty as to whether YellowApple has been recognized as a member or observer, if at all, given the IC uncertainty presented by YellowApple's now-nonexistent policies of slavery.


OOC: also Muffinvania *puppy dog whimper eyes*
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Postby Eadesiopia » Sun Oct 09, 2011 6:45 pm

YellowApple wrote:
Lubyak wrote:OOC: Hey Enatai, I just realized I never got added to the list of members in the OP...could I get added? Please? :)


OOC: Same here, contributing to my lack of certainty as to whether YellowApple has been recognized as a member or observer, if at all, given the IC uncertainty presented by YellowApple's now-nonexistent policies of slavery.



Enatai wrote:25. Yellowapple



You're already on the list you foal.

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Postby YellowApple » Sun Oct 09, 2011 6:46 pm

Eadesiopia wrote:
YellowApple wrote:
OOC: Same here, contributing to my lack of certainty as to whether YellowApple has been recognized as a member or observer, if at all, given the IC uncertainty presented by YellowApple's now-nonexistent policies of slavery.



Enatai wrote:25. Yellowapple



You're already on the list you foal.


OH! He's either updated it since last night, or I'm losing my ability to read. lol

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Crystal Spires
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Postby Crystal Spires » Sun Oct 09, 2011 11:39 pm

To The Coalition of Ponyist States,


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While we remind you of Crystal Spires lack of intention for joining your Coalition, we request for information if you would be so kind to elucidate.

What are the core tenets of Ponyism?

Covering the questions to ponder when you answer this question:


1. What is real to a follower of Ponyism?
2. Who is well off in Ponyism?
3. Who or what kind of sentient being would you consider to be an ideal ponyist?
4. How does one become the ideal ponyist with regards to the third answer?

Also other aspects of a pony worldview to be considered:

1. Ideals of Reality and Truth (for example Creation Stories or specific ideals held to be true)
2. View of the Value of Sentience
3. Intuitivity (View beyond the physical)
4. Morality (Personal Behavior Values)
5. Social Responsibility (Group Behavior Values)


We of Crystal Spires would appreciate your answers in order for our Minister of Interracial Relations, Lancaeriel Deortryl, to be able to compile a full report for our dossiers in the High Council libraries and I have yet to hear a fully composed unified set of tenets in Ponyism explained in a clear manner.

I appreciate your efforts,

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Urmanian
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Postby Urmanian » Mon Oct 10, 2011 2:16 am

Crystal Spires wrote:1. What is real to a follower of Ponyism?


Existance of magic and belief in the Regal Sisters as divine beings of the highest order is something Ponyists consider real that can be treated with skepticism by followers of other faiths or lack thereof, though both are more or less scientifically proven facts. Other than that, the average Ponyist's image of reality isn't that much different from the average.

Crystal Spires wrote:2. Who is well off in Ponyism?


Anyone! The Regal Sisters don't play favourites, and whether you are a human, a pony or a diamond dog, it's your personal qualities that matter in the end. Your social standing and so on don't matter either.

Crystal Spires wrote:3. Who or what kind of sentient being would you consider to be an ideal ponyist?


The Regal Sisters themselves or the six ponies that hold the elements of harmony: our dear leader Twilight Sparkle, Pinkie Pie, Applejack, Fluttershy, Rainbow Dash and Rarity.

Crystal Spires wrote:4. How does one become the ideal ponyist with regards to the third answer?


By perfecting your moral image by adhering to the Elements of Harmony (Magic, Laughter, Honesty, Kindness, Loyalty and Generosity) and the magic of friendship.

Crystal Spires wrote:1. Ideals of Reality and Truth (for example Creation Stories or specific ideals held to be true)


As I've mentioned before, belief in magic of friendship, the power of the Elements of Harmony and worship of the Regal Sisters are the cornerstones of Ponyism.

Crystal Spires wrote:2. View of the Value of Sentience


Any sentient being is to be loved and tolerated.

Crystal Spires wrote:3. Intuitivity (View beyond the physical)


Could you elaborate this question, please? It's pretty vague.

Crystal Spires wrote:4. Morality (Personal Behavior Values)


One's moral image is to be measured by how does one follow the Elements of Harmony. No being is inherently evil - even the blackest soul can be remedied with magic of friendship.

Crystal Spires wrote:5. Social Responsibility (Group Behavior Values)


Friendship is the most important value in Ponyism. Collectivism is also held dear (umad Hippostania), everypony's role is important to the herd as a whole.

I hope that answers your questions.


-Sterling Silver, the Greater Pony Herd's representative in the Coalition
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Conclespia
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Postby Conclespia » Mon Oct 10, 2011 3:22 am

OOC: Hippostania, I thought you said that you wouldn't pressure me into quitting LUNA, and what happened here? Freedom of speech is an important factor in my country's government, and there's nothing wrong with allowing communist symbols in my country. Simply because I joined LUNA does not mean that I will declare war against you. If you really want me to, fine, I'll quit, but I still see nothing wrong with LUNA.
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Southern Babylonia
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Postby Southern Babylonia » Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:12 am

Conclespia wrote:OOC: Hippostania, I thought you said that you wouldn't pressure me into quitting LUNA, and what happened here? Freedom of speech is an important factor in my country's government, and there's nothing wrong with allowing communist symbols in my country. Simply because I joined LUNA does not mean that I will declare war against you. If you really want me to, fine, I'll quit, but I still see nothing wrong with LUNA.

OOC: Aw, we'd hate to see you leave. :(
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Conclespia
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Postby Conclespia » Mon Oct 10, 2011 5:46 am

Southern Babylonia wrote:
Conclespia wrote:OOC: Hippostania, I thought you said that you wouldn't pressure me into quitting LUNA, and what happened here? Freedom of speech is an important factor in my country's government, and there's nothing wrong with allowing communist symbols in my country. Simply because I joined LUNA does not mean that I will declare war against you. If you really want me to, fine, I'll quit, but I still see nothing wrong with LUNA.

OOC: Aw, we'd hate to see you leave. :(

OOC: Yeah, same here. And I didn't really know that there was a rule saying that CoPS members couldn't join, which is kinda stupid.
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Urmanian
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Postby Urmanian » Mon Oct 10, 2011 5:49 am

Conclespia wrote:OOC: Yeah, same here. And I didn't really know that there was a rule saying that CoPS members couldn't join, which is kinda stupid.


There's no such rule, but LUNA opposes Hippostania, a CoPS member.
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Conclespia
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Postby Conclespia » Mon Oct 10, 2011 5:55 am

Hippostania said that there was, so yeah.
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Crystal Spires
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Postby Crystal Spires » Mon Oct 10, 2011 6:00 am

To the Coalition of Ponyist States,


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We of Crystal Spires would be pleased to clarify what we mean by the principles of intuitivity. For example when one of our religion of uses the principles of logic, fairness, and morality we declare first that these principles exist independent of individual thought. It's a statement of universal application. We wonder if Ponyism makes equal statements of universalization, and if the worldview is equally shared and respected. Likewise why are people who do not share the same core value of collectivism permitted to have full decision authority on the membership of others like the call to exile one of your own for joining LUNA? Isn't that abandoning one's core values for someone who doesn't share them in the first place? How odd.

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Conclespia
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Postby Conclespia » Mon Oct 10, 2011 6:03 am

OOC: If we really want me to quit so much, I'll do it. Just give me the word.
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Urmanian
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Postby Urmanian » Mon Oct 10, 2011 6:07 am

Well then yes, Ponyism does have such universalization of thought, however there are exceptions, such as Hippostania. Ponies there have accepted the rampant individualism of native Hipponians, hovewer they still hopefully adhere to the Elements.

And Hippostania doesn't have full decision authority on others' membership in CoPS.
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Postby Immoren » Mon Oct 10, 2011 6:13 am

Enatai wrote:
Immoren wrote:It seems that our application has been falling to deaf ears.

The Brony Kingdom of Enatai hereby approves Immoren's application for membership, provided that Immoren forgives the delay.

We thank you for admittance to coalition. We are patient folk, so delay is forgiven.
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Postby Draconikus » Mon Oct 10, 2011 6:17 am

Conclespia wrote:OOC: If we really want me to quit so much, I'll do it. Just give me the word.


We were requesting you quit based on the idea that a prerequisite for joining LUNA was an embargo against Hippostania. As the embargo appears to have been adopted of LUNA members, but not enforced by LUNA, the issue is less a betrayal of a fellow CoPS member, and more of befriending people who are antagonistic towards him. Whilst this is indeed an awkward situation, I beleive it is one that you and Hippostania can sort out between yourselves, and does not require any CoPS action.

So, as far as I am concerned, membership of LUNA is easily compatible with membership of CoPS.
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Strykla
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Postby Strykla » Mon Oct 10, 2011 6:27 am

Official Missive from the Government of Strykla

Due to the present course of Strykla's relations with ponyist and pony-allied nations, Strykla requests to be an observer upon open the Coalition of Ponyist States. Even though Strykla is able to observe on all open meeting taken place upon this forum, it is requested that Strykla is able to do so with the consent of the Coalition of Ponyist States.

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Conclespia
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Postby Conclespia » Mon Oct 10, 2011 6:39 am

Draconikus wrote:
Conclespia wrote:OOC: If we really want me to quit so much, I'll do it. Just give me the word.


We were requesting you quit based on the idea that a prerequisite for joining LUNA was an embargo against Hippostania. As the embargo appears to have been adopted of LUNA members, but not enforced by LUNA, the issue is less a betrayal of a fellow CoPS member, and more of befriending people who are antagonistic towards him. Whilst this is indeed an awkward situation, I beleive it is one that you and Hippostania can sort out between yourselves, and does not require any CoPS action.

So, as far as I am concerned, membership of LUNA is easily compatible with membership of CoPS.

I didn't join because of that... I had no idea of the tensions between Hippostania/CoPS and LUNA.
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Postby Salvarity » Mon Oct 10, 2011 6:47 am

Draconikus wrote:
Conclespia wrote:OOC: If we really want me to quit so much, I'll do it. Just give me the word.


We were requesting you quit based on the idea that a prerequisite for joining LUNA was an embargo against Hippostania. As the embargo appears to have been adopted of LUNA members, but not enforced by LUNA, the issue is less a betrayal of a fellow CoPS member, and more of befriending people who are antagonistic towards him. Whilst this is indeed an awkward situation, I beleive it is one that you and Hippostania can sort out between yourselves, and does not require any CoPS action.

So, as far as I am concerned, membership of LUNA is easily compatible with membership of CoPS.


OOC: The Embargo is not LUNA. I AM PART OF LUNA AND I"M NOT EMBARGOING HIPPOSTAINIA. If Conclespia doesn't want to Embargo Hippostainia and has not hostility to Hippostainia why should he be kicked out of CoPs.
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Postby Hippostania » Mon Oct 10, 2011 7:23 am

Conclespia wrote:OOC: If we really want me to quit so much, I'll do it. Just give me the word.

OOC: Yup, I'd appreciate it. Of course I have no power to force you, and you can still stay as a member of both COPS and LUNA. But I'd appreciate if you could leave LUNA, as the entire organization is directed against me.
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