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The Coalition of Ponyist States

Where nations come together and discuss matters of varying degrees of importance. [In character]

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Behntasha
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Postby Behntasha » Sun Oct 30, 2011 10:39 am

Greater Mackonia wrote:may i just say that most members of the AAPS do not hate the show (because no normal people bother to watch a show for 5 year old's) they just don't like the fact that the CoPS is trying to
force its corrupt ideology down nation's that have banned ponyism throats not because they have some eternal hate for a children's show.

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Hmm... interesting...
1. Define "corrupt ideology". For the most part, all we want to see is that pony citizens have the same amount of rights.
2. Every nation I've seen condemned by CoPS members basically went on a "lol kill teh p0n13s!!!!1!" rampage. If you can point out a few examples of us "forcing ponyism" for any reason other than this (which, mind you, we view as genocide), that'd be helpful.
3. It still doesn't really make sense from my point of view, ICly. It didn't seem like a problem; ponyist nations came about because we liked the show/wanted to roleplay with a pony population. In response to that, many nations who happily played without a pony population started killing their previously non-existent pony population or deporting them, for the sole fact that ponyist nations existed.

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Urmanian
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Postby Urmanian » Sun Oct 30, 2011 10:40 am

United States of Peace wrote:OOC: Quick question, do you have to have ponies living in your nation to CPS to join as a full member?


Yes.
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Behntasha
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Postby Behntasha » Sun Oct 30, 2011 10:42 am

United States of Peace wrote:OOC: Just some good old fun between two nations. :D


Fair enough. I suppose I'm in favor of observer status, though we might voice concerns about you and Maltropia.

United States of Peace wrote:OOC: Quick question, do you have to have ponies living in your nation to CPS to join as a full member?

I'm pretty sure you do. That's ok though, you're more then welcome to voice your opinion. The only difference is that you can't vote on matters, such as accepting observers and members.
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Greater Mackonia
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Postby Greater Mackonia » Sun Oct 30, 2011 10:49 am

i define a corrupt ideology when a group of nations kills millions of humans just to make sure a capitalist cult survives in innocent peace loving nations and not all nations actually say "kill the ponies"
they just ban ponyism not ponies themselves (though that would be fun)
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Urmanian
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Postby Urmanian » Sun Oct 30, 2011 10:52 am

Greater Mackonia wrote:i define a corrupt ideology when a group of nations kills millions of humans just to make sure a capitalist cult survives in innocent peace loving nations and not all nations actually say "kill the ponies"
they just ban ponyism not ponies themselves (though that would be fun)


Whenever "ponyism was banned", ponies were murdered. CoPS is dedicated to defending pony rights worldwide. You follow?

And "innocent peace loving nations" that murder a demographic for no reason. Lol.

Also, is "capitalist" a buzzword now?
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Vorshka
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Postby Vorshka » Sun Oct 30, 2011 10:54 am

well,so all the AAPS members who banned ponyism(all of them) should face war?


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Urmanian
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Postby Urmanian » Sun Oct 30, 2011 10:55 am

Vorshka wrote:well,so all the AAPS members who banned ponyism(all of them) should face war?


No, they should face the Ignore Cannon.
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Vorshka
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Postby Vorshka » Sun Oct 30, 2011 10:55 am

so if a nation bans or kills ponies you ignore it?
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Orlkjestad
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Postby Orlkjestad » Sun Oct 30, 2011 10:56 am

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An Official Communique From The Department of Foreign Affaires Of Orlkjestad On The Subject Of Applying For Observer Status In The Coalition Of Ponyist States



Greetings.

After debate in the 3 houses of the Parlistika, our parliament, a bill that allows Orlkjestad to join the Coalition of Ponyist States has been approved. The vote counts were 251-249 in the Prolecasi, 100-150 in the Bourgecasi, and 35-65 in the Superiocasi. It was signed by President Favric Pavala yesterday. Our primary reason for applying is because of some common interests. For example, we also want all sentients to be treated as equals. Another reason is because we hate many members of the AAPS, and disagree with their ideologies.

Pinko bastards.

All required documents will be found enclosed.

Best regards,
Martin Alveric
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Name of State: The Reformed Republic of Orlkjestad
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Do Ponies Have Equal Rights in Your Nation?: All sentient creatures in the Republic's borders are equal. However, some Orlkjestadis are prejudiced against ponies, as well as anyone who isn't like them. We would control this if we could, but then we'd become the same tyranny we fought against in the recent civil war.
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Postby Soxastan » Sun Oct 30, 2011 10:56 am

Behntasha wrote:
United States of Peace wrote:OOC: Just some good old fun between two nations. :D


Fair enough. I suppose I'm in favor of observer status, though we might voice concerns about you and Maltropia.


I vote AYE for observer status.

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Behntasha
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Postby Behntasha » Sun Oct 30, 2011 10:59 am

Greater Mackonia wrote:i define a corrupt ideology when a group of nations kills millions of humans just to make sure a capitalist cult survives in innocent peace loving nations and not all nations actually say "kill the ponies"
they just ban ponyism not ponies themselves (though that would be fun)


Even so, I don't know any nation that has done such a thing for merely banning ponyism. As of "human genocide", Behntasha strongly opposes any genocide on all sides, and I'm sure most if not ALL CoPS states follow the same ideology. But identify the nations that committed these acts. And what of the anti-ponyist nations that committed genocide now? Just ignoring an inconvenient fact?
You speak in broad terms, clearly showing you don't recognize that the CoPS is actually a diverse group of nations. This is further demonstrated by you accusing us all of being capitalist, when in fact, there are a fair number of socialists of all brands.

TL;DR Don't come back until your better educated, and bring up some facts the next time you post here our it didn't happen.

Orlkjestad wrote:
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An Official Communique From The Department of Foreign Affaires Of Orlkjestad On The Subject Of Applying For Observer Status In The Coalition Of Ponyist States



Greetings.

After debate in the 3 houses of the Parlistika, our parliament, a bill that allows Orlkjestad to join the Coalition of Ponyist States has been approved. The vote counts were 251-249 in the Prolecasi, 100-150 in the Bourgecasi, and 35-65 in the Superiocasi. It was signed by President Favric Pavala yesterday. Our primary reason for applying is because of some common interests. For example, we also want all sentients to be treated as equals. Another reason is because we hate many members of the AAPS, and disagree with their ideologies.

Pinko bastards.

All required documents will be found enclosed.

Best regards,
Martin Alveric
Secretary of Foreign Affaires

Name of State: The Reformed Republic of Orlkjestad
Number of Ponies Living Withing Your State: 3% of the population
Do Ponies Act As a Major Part of Your Nation's Economy or Military?: They don't play a major part, but they are employed in many corporations, as well as some support roles in the military.
Do Ponies Have Equal Rights in Your Nation?: All sentient creatures in the Republic's borders are equal. However, some Orlkjestadis are prejudiced against ponies, as well as anyone who isn't like them. We would control this if we could, but then we'd become the same tyranny we fought against in the recent civil war.


Behntasha votes in favor of Orikjestad's membership.
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Urmanian
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Postby Urmanian » Sun Oct 30, 2011 10:59 am

Vorshka wrote:so if a nation bans or kills ponies you ignore it?


Depends on the nation in question's roleplaying ability as well as ability to give any valid justification to said genocide


Orlkjestad wrote:-snip-


The Greater Pony Herd votes AYE on allowing Orlkjestad as observer nation, with a probation period at the expiration of which it may become a full member.
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Vorshka
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Postby Vorshka » Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:03 am

Urmanian wrote:
Vorshka wrote:so if a nation bans or kills ponies you ignore it?


Depends on the nation in question's roleplaying ability as well as ability to give any valid justification to said genocide


Orlkjestad wrote:-snip-


The Greater Pony Herd votes AYE on allowing Orlkjestad as observer nation, with a probation period at the expiration of which it may become a full member.



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Urmanian
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Postby Urmanian » Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:17 am

Look, anti-pony nations:

This is a good anti-pony thread. It's creative. It doesn't involve outright, baseless violence. It has valid reasons for anti-pony behaviour. It has evolved into a nice storyline.

"Evil capitalist ponies wanted to overthrow my government but my government culled the revolution and killed 1,000,000 ponies and outlawed ponyism!" is a bad anti-pony thread. There's so much wrong with it that I once again guide your lot to this post.
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Fantoa
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Postby Fantoa » Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:31 am

Urmanian wrote:Look, anti-pony nations:

This is a good anti-pony thread. It's creative. It doesn't involve outright, baseless violence. It has valid reasons for anti-pony behaviour. It has evolved into a nice storyline.

"Evil capitalist ponies wanted to overthrow my government but my government culled the revolution and killed 1,000,000 ponies and outlawed ponyism!" is a bad anti-pony thread. There's so much wrong with it that I once again guide your lot to this post.

I do believe I have never said that. Once again you're making up things that no one has ever said.

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Urmanian
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Postby Urmanian » Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:33 am

Fantoa wrote:I do believe I have never said that. Once again you're making up things that no one has ever said.


Fantoa wrote:I am here to renounce the sickening ways of Ponyism, their ideals are not a way to run a real country. The ideas they advocate is those more suited for a bunch of 4 year old girls playing pretend and having little tea parties. Ponyism as of now is illegal in Fantoa and all those who still practice this sick government idea and religion will be arrested for treason and sentenced to death, all symbols and books that advocate for Ponyism will be burned at government sanctioned Burn Parties.


Well, that's even worse and makes even less sense.
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This nation represents the voices in my head.

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Austria-Bohemia-Hungary
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:37 am

Greater Mackonia wrote:i define a corrupt ideology when a group of nations kills millions of humans just to make sure a capitalist cult survives in innocent peace loving nations and not all nations actually say "kill the ponies"
they just ban ponyism not ponies themselves (though that would be fun)

I am deeply offended, offended enough to declare that a causus belli and give you a curbstomp of epic proportions. As We have clearly stated
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Sexual Equality: Extant
Racial Equality: Extant
Communism: Immoral per the second formulation of the Categorical Imperative. "Act in such a way that you treat humanity, whether in your own person or in the person of any other, never merely as a means to an end, but always at the same time as an end."
Capitalism: Allowed but not actively supported
Fascism: Outlawed and immoral per the second formulation of the Categorical Imperative.
Socialism: Unofficial state-ideology
Private Property: Extant
Public Property: Extant
Alcohol Consumption: Extant
Recreational Drug Consumption: Medical grounds only
Cloning: Research purposes only
Obesity: Strives for reduction
Corporal Punishment: Extinct
Public Censorship of Political Views: Extinct
Public Censorship of Nudity and Sexually Oriented Entertainment: Extinct
Public Nudity: Suum cuique
Carrying Concealed Weapons: Suum cuique
Hunting: For recreational purposes? Extinct
Homosexuality: Extant
Use of Mines in Warfare: Extinct
Nuclear Arms: Extinct
Ecology: Positive but not officially promoted
Laboratory Testing on Animals: Research purposes only
, outright capitalism is frowned upon and is not publicly supported by the government, on the other hand social-democracy is the de facto state ideology.

Also, Fantoa, you are definitely being incoherent there.
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Fantoa
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Postby Fantoa » Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:38 am

Urmanian wrote:
Fantoa wrote:I do believe I have never said that. Once again you're making up things that no one has ever said.


Fantoa wrote:I am here to renounce the sickening ways of Ponyism, their ideals are not a way to run a real country. The ideas they advocate is those more suited for a bunch of 4 year old girls playing pretend and having little tea parties. Ponyism as of now is illegal in Fantoa and all those who still practice this sick government idea and religion will be arrested for treason and sentenced to death, all symbols and books that advocate for Ponyism will be burned at government sanctioned Burn Parties.


Well, that's even worse and makes even less sense.

Where in there does it say that i rped that because they were capitalists and wanted to overthrow a country, do point out the exact place. If you can't you're just throwing a fit over nothing, why because you believe you have the right to control everything that people say and do regarding ponies. But you don't no one does.

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Postby The Irish Marchlands » Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:39 am

Have you tried just being nuetral?
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Urmanian
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Postby Urmanian » Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:41 am

Fantoa wrote:Where in there does it say that i rped that because they were capitalists and wanted to overthrow a country, do point out the exact place. If you can't you're just throwing a fit over nothing, why because you believe you have the right to control everything that people say and do regarding ponies. But you don't no one does.


That was, you know, an example. Basically an average anti-pony thread in a nutshell.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:42 am

Fantoa wrote:
Urmanian wrote:


Well, that's even worse and makes even less sense.

Where in there does it say that i rped that because they were capitalists and wanted to overthrow a country, do point out the exact place. If you can't you're just throwing a fit over nothing, why because you believe you have the right to control everything that people say and do regarding ponies. But you don't no one does.

FYI, being obstinate and intrusive causes one heck of a headache with me.
You refuse to give the poor dead horse a rest (no puns here). You refuse to acknowledge that most people (thinking of GPH) is getting increasingly fed up with that obstinate attitude of yours. You refuse to occupy a middle-ground and leave us alone, even if only to demonstrate good-will from your part. Now where does that put us all? One fucking huge bloody pounding headache.
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Fantoa
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Postby Fantoa » Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:44 am

Urmanian wrote:
Fantoa wrote:Where in there does it say that i rped that because they were capitalists and wanted to overthrow a country, do point out the exact place. If you can't you're just throwing a fit over nothing, why because you believe you have the right to control everything that people say and do regarding ponies. But you don't no one does.


That was, you know, an example. Basically an average anti-pony thread in a nutshell.

That was not an average it is something you made up just to insult us anti-pony people.

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Postby Soxastan » Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:51 am

Fantoa wrote:
Urmanian wrote:
That was, you know, an example. Basically an average anti-pony thread in a nutshell.

That was not an average it is something you made up just to insult us anti-pony people.

Rule #19: The more you hate it, the stronger it gets.

Face it, you're on a bandwagon. Hate can only go so far. We don't hate you, we just think your hatred is silly. If you were indifferent, we couldn't care less. If you like ponies, we would like you better. That's that.

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Aethrys
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Postby Aethrys » Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:56 am

Urmanian wrote:Look, anti-pony nations:

This is a good anti-pony thread. It's creative. It doesn't involve outright, baseless violence. It has valid reasons for anti-pony behaviour. It has evolved into a nice storyline.

"Evil capitalist ponies wanted to overthrow my government but my government culled the revolution and killed 1,000,000 ponies and outlawed ponyism!" is a bad anti-pony thread. There's so much wrong with it that I once again guide your lot to this post.


If I may interject, it seems that your problem is with any thread that places any of the blame for the start of the conflict on ponies, which you keep on some untouchable pedestal, rather than blaming those damn intolerant humans.
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Postby Urmanian » Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:59 am

Aethrys wrote:If I may interject, it seems that your problem is with any thread that places any of the blame for the start of the conflict on ponies, which you keep on some untouchable pedestal, rather than blaming those damn intolerant humans.


Most of my problems are recited in this post.

And yes, I've yet to see a thread of this sort that would put the blame on ponies with giving the ponies any kind of a valid reason to start the conflict.
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