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Postby Tsardom Universalis » Mon Apr 04, 2011 3:43 am

Probably need to add this to your favourites guys - Check VERY regularly (you know I will!)

For reference, here is the public copy of the Charter (will be updated upon revision):
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Charter of The Coalition of Christian Communities

We, the signatory Bodies and Nations united under the Christian Trinity do hereby consecrate this Charter and any sanctioned associations it inspires.

In this, we do declare that we shall ascribe to the following aims as conditions of entry:
1. We take the entirety of The Lord’s Prayer & The Apostle's Creed as perfect truth and defines our doctrine.
2. If given solely in a spirit of friendship and fellowship in a non-aggressive and non-judgemental manner, we shall give and take pastoral guidance to any and all members wherever able should spiritual issues occur.
3. We shall not encroach upon the rights of each member to reasonable independent internal governance of Church and State unless warranted under Aim 2.
4. And, to otherwise provide for the common good and reputation of the international Christian community in any way practicable, cognitive of the fact that our actions shape the reputation of the Christian faith.

and to the following objectives with regard to other Christian Bodies and Nations subject to this Charter & the international Christian community:
1. Promote the ideal of wellbeing
2. Encourage trade
3. Intervene militarily only in defence against: the suppression of Christianity, its liberties or its tenets; or attack against a fellow Christian or Coalition body or nation
and more generally:
4. Promote a healthy atmosphere of debate and discussion in all things for the purposes of learning & resolution.
5. Work towards establishing a process for Coalition Assembly, along with any structural or regulatory appointments

Signed,
1. [Tsardom Universalis]: Tsar-Kritarch Hagrid of The Most Holy Imperial Kritarchy of Calsandria, The Tsardom Universalis
2. [Free Missouri]: Logan M. of Free Missouri
3. [McConia]: Emperor Jonathan McNall of The Holy Christian Empire of McConia
4. [The Holy Forden Church]: The Holy Pupa of The Holy Empire of The Holy Forden Church
5. [Terishany]: President Jacob Jacobson of The Federal Republic of Terishany
6. [New Edom]: Tribunes Mark Obed, William Touchstone & William Laudner of the New Edom Provisional Government
7. [Theophobos]: Patriach of State and Religion: Prince Edward II of the Theocracy of Theophobos

Former Members
1. [San Martin Caballero]: President Longinus Chevalier, Community of San Martin Caballero
2. ++BLACKLISTED++ [New Celisia]: Emperor Charles Melhavre of The Dominion of New Celisia
3. ++WITH HIGHEST HONOURS++ [Ros Ekasna]: President Francis of Ros Ekasna
4. [Lenton provinces]: Archbishop James Reilly of The Holy Empire of Lenton provinces
5. [Centropyge]: Emperor Algernon Katarina Fawkes of the Seafaring Christian Empire of Centropyge
6. [Yanknia]: President George S. of Yanknia
7. [Cbngggfv]: President Nigel Walton of The Galatic Republic of Cbngggfv
8. [Crusadiala]: President Jeremy of The Republic of Crusadiala
9. [Draconian Races]: Drakonis Ordonia of The Armed Republic of Draconian Races


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Coalition Appointments

Prime Executor: [Tsardom Universalis]
There shall be an appointment of Executor of The Charter of Coalition, who shall be named the Prime Executor.
The Prime Executor shall be given the following directives and powers:
1. The Prime Executor shall preside over the Coalition of Christian Communities.
2. The presiding governance of the Coalition is empowered by interpretation of the Charter of Coalition.
3. As the Executor of the Charter, the Prime Executor is to interpret the intention of the Charter of Coalition.
4. The Prime Executor is to refine the Charter, presenting refinement proposals to the Coalition Assembly.
5. The Prime Executor is to convene the Coalition Assembly.
6. The Prime Executor is to notify Chartered Coalition members of Coalition Assemblies and any votes motioned.
7. The Prime Executor is to be a primary point of contact (for anyone in or out of the Coalition).
8. In the interests of Aim 4, the Prime Executor is to act to the best of their Christian conscience.

High-Commissioner of Pastoral Moderation: [Vacant-Nominations Open]
There shall be an appointment of Executor of Aim 2, who shall be named the High-Commissioner of Pastoral Moderation.
The High-Commissioner of Pastoral Moderation (HCPM) shall be given the following directives and powers:
1. The HCPM has the right of way to observe within reason the National Happenings of any and all Coalition member nations and their doctrinal or pastoral behaviour when in forum.
2. Should the HCPM perceive a doctrinal or pastoral error in judgement it their obligation to perfrom an inquest by the following process:
2a. Issue the relevant nation with an Informal Accountability Request (IAR) regarding the perceived issue.
2b. Should the problem at hand be clearly and obviously grave or should an IAR response be insufficient, Issue an Official Accountability Request (OAR)
2c. Should an IAR of OAR yield reasonings for doctrinal or pastoral issues which are unreasonable to the HCPM (who must act with reasonable partiality), the HCPM may require that the nation in question make steps towards rectification at the discretion of the HCPM (apology, statment of future action, retraction etc).
2d. Should the previous private steps be insufficient to rectify the situation, the HCPM is to publicly notify the Coalition. The issue will be brought up in Coalition Assembly and discussed then resolved by opinion of peers.
3. The HCPM is to act as the avenue of contact for further action if one Coalition nation perceives issue with another. The HCPM is to be the one to notify a nation of wrong action and take any action or notification required. This is in the interests of reducing reasons for internal arguments. It will be better if the power of 'commenting on specks' in public is kept to an executive position.
4. At the HCPM's greatest and highest discretion towards privacy, they are to notify the Coalition Assembly of important and topical Pastoral issues encountered and the HCPM's reccomended position(s) on the issue. This will be publicly published into a Register of Pastoral Issues in the interests of creating a coherent approach to spiritual issues within the Coalition.
5. Should any perceive issue with the HCPM themself, then they are to contact them about it first and then if resolution is not reached, then contact the Prime Executor.

High-Commissioner of Observation (Exterior): [Vacant-Nominations Open]
There shall be an appointment of Executor of Objective 3 with reference to Aim 4, who shall be named the High-Commissioner of Observation (Exterior).
The High-Commissioner of Observation (Exterior) (HCO(E)) shall be given the following directives and powers:
1. Investigating (WITHOUT contacting or interacting with involved parties in any way - hence the use of OBSERVATION in title) incidents outside of the Coalition which would contravene Obj 3 & Aim 4, potentially validating Coalition Intervention.
2. Following an inquest by the HCO(E) (whether independent or commissioned) they are to file an Intervention Request Report (IRR) for Coalition Review.
3. This Coalition Review would consist of an open discussion in Coalition Assembly, potentially an Intervention Review Committee and importantly a vote by Chartered Coalition Members (to a majority to be defined by a prior consensus).
4. The HCO(E) would act as the port of call (along with the Prime Executor) to any Coalition member who felt an inquest into Coalition Intervention is warranted who is to act upon any request for investigation.

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Coalition Provisions:

Military action appointments & interventions
In the spirit of Objective 3 & Aim 4, given previous discussion the following provision will be enacted.
Following a successful inquest by the High-Commissioner of Observation (Exterior) & support by the Prime Executor, the Coalition will vote in Assembly on performing any military intervention. A vote for Military Intervention will be passed if given significant support (80% of votes made without abstention or absence without notification).
Once passed, the Coalition may vote for the installation of a Diarch-Militum Protempus (DMP), an emergency appointment, who will occupy the role for the duration of the intervention (or until relieved by Coalition vote).
To maximise integrity, the Prime Executor is to liase with the Diarch-Militum Protempus in coordinating the intervention (and is to take DMP advisement), whose deployment orders given must bear the counter-signature of the DMP.
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Coalition Assembly Minutes:
COALITION ASSEMBLY (I), Redeemer Palace
Results
1. Official Notice of Unbecoming Conduct: San Martin Caballero

PASSED (3 votes to 1, 2 Abstains, 4 Absent without notification)
San Martin Caballero will be issued in the near future an Official Notice of Unbecoming Conduct which will outline the reasons and the requirements of the Notice.

2. Proposed Coalition appointments: High-Commissioner of Pastoral Moderation
PASSED (No opposition raised)
LEAD CANDIDATE [Ros Ekasna] (4 votes to 1, 5 Absent without notification)
Appointment enacted following end of vote period. Ros Ekasna possesses the appointment effective immediately.

3. Modifications to Charter wordings
PASSED (No opposition raised)
Modifications enacted following end of vote period.

4. Coalition Applicant: Celis
PASSED (5 votes to 1, 4 Absent without notification)
Effective immediately, Celis is granted Coalition membership as a Chartered Signatory & is welcome to migrate to the Coalition Region.

5. Official Apology for Unaccomodating Conduct: New Edom
PASSED (4 votes to 0, 1 Abstain, 5 Absent without notification)
An Official Apology will be drafted and sent to New Edom

EMERGENCY COALITION ASSEMBLY (E I), Redeemer Palace
Results
1. Announcement: General Appeal of the Tribunes [New Edom]

2. Coalition Appointment Proposal: High-Commissioner of Observation (Exterior)

Implemented - No opposition raised.
No Candidates nominated.

3. Inquest Commission [High-Commissioner of Pastoral Moderation]: Coalition defence of New Edom
No Resolution.

4. Coalition Invtervention: Defence of New Edom
Potentially intervening in the New Edom crisis: PASSED (6 votes FOR, 5 Absent without notification).
Further action pending.

COALITION ASSEMBLY (II), Redeemer Palace
Results
1. Notification of definition: Coalition Prime Executor

PASSED (No opposition raised)
Modifications enacted following end of vote period.

2. Discussion on Coalition appointment proposals: High Commissioner of Evangelism (Exterior) & Coalition Curator
Further discussion required.

3. Coalition voting precedent
Further discussion required.

4. Provision: Military action appointments & interventions
PASSED (6 votes to 1, 4 Absent without notification)
The Provision: Military action appointments & interventions, is enacted and appended to the Charter.

5. Coalition Seal Proposal
LEADING PROPOSAL [Tsardom Universalis] (5 votes to 1, 1 abstain, 5 Absent without notification)
Tsardom Universalis' seal shall be implemented.

6. Apology for Unaccomodating Conduct Reply: New Edom
No resolutions to be made.

7. Celisia
No progress made

8. Intervention to protect Christian communities: San Martin Caballero, Celisia
Further discussion required.

COALITION ASSEMBLY (III), Redeemer Palace
***Assembly proceedings not formally concluded*** - Results
1. Coalition: Moving forward

Generally considered good idea - further discussion required.

2. Vacancy: High-Commissioner of Observation (Exterior)
Position vacant.

3. Discussion on Coalition appointment proposals: High Commissioner of Evangelism (Exterior) & Coalition Curator
Generally considered good idea - further discussion required.

4. Coalition voting precedent
Provision: Calling of Votes No voice of dissent - insufficient discussion.
Vote: Voting Option Model Greater support for MODEL 1 - Insufficient votes to form quorum.
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Postby San Martin Caballero » Mon Apr 04, 2011 5:57 pm

You notice how, on the regional factbook, you have the link to this page reading like a jumble of numbers and letters, like this:
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=105170

Instead, why don't you make it a clickable title, like this:
Coalition Telegraph Station

You can do that with anything. Like this:
Hey, look at this cool picture.

See?
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Postby Tsardom Universalis » Mon Apr 04, 2011 7:32 pm

So what's our position with Embassies? I've had a request from "Monarchist Continent and Archipelago" region, at a glance they dont appear to be united by faith. Personally I don't mind contructing embassies with anyone who isn't opposed to our ideals, it gets us out in the open
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Postby San Martin Caballero » Mon Apr 04, 2011 8:59 pm

Tsardom Universalis wrote:So what's our position with Embassies? I've had a request from "Monarchist Continent and Archipelago" region, at a glance they dont appear to be united by faith. Personally I don't mind contructing embassies with anyone who isn't opposed to our ideals, it gets us out in the open


(OOC: I don't even know. What does "establishing embassies" mean? What does it actually do? Other than a good way to spam up the regional happenings board?)
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Postby Ros Ekasna » Mon Apr 04, 2011 9:01 pm

I'd agree to this.

Within reason, of course. Should we go along the lines of 'Embassies with all' or be more selective. If the latter, then what criteria would we use to vet diplomatic missions?
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Postby Ros Ekasna » Mon Apr 04, 2011 9:03 pm

San Martin Caballero wrote:
Tsardom Universalis wrote:So what's our position with Embassies? I've had a request from "Monarchist Continent and Archipelago" region, at a glance they dont appear to be united by faith. Personally I don't mind contructing embassies with anyone who isn't opposed to our ideals, it gets us out in the open


((OOC: I don't even know. What does "establishing embassies" mean? What does it actually do? Other than a good way to spam up the regional happenings board?))


OOC: Just a bunch of links, methinks. How people use them is entirely up to them
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Postby Clacton Deutschland » Tue Apr 05, 2011 10:34 am

(Mistake that the forum won't allow to be deleted)
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Postby Clacton Deutschland » Tue Apr 05, 2011 10:36 am

(Mistake that the forum won't allow to be deleted) (this is one of Lenton provinces' other countries by the way)
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Postby Lenton provinces » Tue Apr 05, 2011 10:38 am

I'm assuming that it's some form of shortcut to telegramming a region? If it's that then we may as well have them with as many relevant regions as possible, especially all the Christian ones, as it would allow us to keep track of diplomatic events (it may make it easier to identify enemies as well and organise RP wars and peace conferences).
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Postby Lenton provinces » Tue Apr 05, 2011 12:31 pm

On another issue would the formation of a map of the region be an idea worth doing?

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Postby San Martin Caballero » Tue Apr 05, 2011 1:30 pm

Lenton provinces wrote:On another issue would the formation of a map of the region be an idea worth doing?


I don't like that idea. I see us more as an international alliance than a geographic region. Besides, there are signatories to the coalition that aren't part of the region. I think the word "region" is only meant to entertain NS convention.
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Postby Ros Ekasna » Tue Apr 05, 2011 2:07 pm

San Martin Caballero wrote:
Lenton provinces wrote:On another issue would the formation of a map of the region be an idea worth doing?


I don't like that idea. I see us more as an international alliance than a geographic region. Besides, there are signatories to the coalition that aren't part of the region. I think the word "region" is only meant to entertain NS convention.


I think that's fair enough and I'd agree there.
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Postby Tsardom Universalis » Wed Apr 06, 2011 3:29 am

Should we extend embassy invite to "The Glorious Garden of Eden"? They are a Christian region, but I have misgivings regarding their founder, are they unwarranted? I do know many members of their region.
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Postby San Martin Caballero » Wed Apr 06, 2011 12:39 pm

What about this guy:
http://www.nationstates.net/nation=mcconia
He just showed up in the region, I don't think he signed the charter or anything.
Does anybody even know anything about his country?
If he hasn't signed the charter, he needs to do so quickly. What's the point of being in a charter-based region if you don't have to sign the charter to be in it?
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Postby Ros Ekasna » Wed Apr 06, 2011 2:53 pm

Tsardom Universalis wrote:Should we extend embassy invite to "The Glorious Garden of Eden"? They are a Christian region, but I have misgivings regarding their founder, are they unwarranted? I do know many members of their region.


I think at this stage our 'foreign' policy is by default quite open, so I would say yes.
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Postby Ros Ekasna » Wed Apr 06, 2011 2:54 pm

San Martin Caballero wrote:What about this guy:
http://www.nationstates.net/nation=mcconia
He just showed up in the region, I don't think he signed the charter or anything.
Does anybody even know anything about his country?
If he hasn't signed the charter, he needs to do so quickly. What's the point of being in a charter-based region if you don't have to sign the charter to be in it?


True. I've posted a note on the regional message board in case s/he doesn't know to visit the forums
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Postby Tsardom Universalis » Wed Apr 06, 2011 5:23 pm

I have already TGed them yesterday welcoming them and directing them to this link so they can view and accept the charter - as well as introduce themselves
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Seeking Pastoral Guidance...

Postby San Martin Caballero » Fri Apr 08, 2011 7:43 pm

For the life of me, I cannot discern the most Godly way of approaching this dilemma.

Police Wanting Help With Their Inquiries

The Issue
After delayed DNA evidence put a notorious rapist behind bars the police have demanded that it be mandatory for those accused of a crime to surrender blood and tissue samples to aid the elimination process.

The Debate
1. "I'm surprised this hasn't been brought up sooner," says Chief Constable Abraham Shiomi. "If we have DNA samples of all the accused it will make solving crimes like rape and murder that much faster! Sure, some people will think it's a tad invasive, but in my experience if you're worried by something like giving up a few drops of the red stuff then you've probably got something to hide."

2. "This is a breach of privacy in every meaning of the word!" criminal defence attorney Roxanne Mombota exclaims. "Or three words, but this is an outrage! It's these peoples' bodies, not the government's nor the police's. If they want to give a DNA sample it should be THEIR decision! Now I'll admit there have been times when DNA sampling has helped solve a case or two but shouldn't we be upholding the inherent right of every man and woman to have their body remain unmolested unless they should so choose it? Undoubtedly! DNA sampling should only take place with the person's informed consent."

3. "What about the victims of these crimes?" asks DI Konrad King, ever gruff and stalwart in the face of adversity. "Do they not have rights? Their right to privacy's been violated so it ought to be the responsibility of the criminal to give up his own. What I propose is the collection of DNA samples from every citizen in San Martin Caballero so we can track down the culprit if none of our suspects come up with anything. It'll be expensive, sure, there's 128 million people to go through... but it's just a small blood sample. Don't you think it's worth it?"

I looked all over the Internet, but couldn't find an official Catholic church position on this issue.
And San Martin Caballero's current crime rate is irrelevant. It would be better to live in the most crime-ridden country in the world if that country were right with the Lord than a country that has sold its soul for a low crime rate.
What do my brothers in Christ suggest?
Yours in Christ,
San Martin Caballero
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Postby Tsardom Universalis » Fri Apr 08, 2011 9:18 pm

I created a National DNA Record. If people are innocent, they've nothing to hide!
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Postby San Martin Caballero » Fri Apr 08, 2011 9:57 pm

Tsardom Universalis wrote:I created a National DNA Record. If people are innocent, they've nothing to hide!


That's option three. OK, that sounds good, but I have a few more hours before the deadline to decide, so if anybody else thinks God might see it differently, please let us know.
-Caballero

EDIT:
Actually, I can't choose option three because of a previous "promise to my citizens" (one of the policy statements recorded in my factbook) to re-abolish income taxes as quickly as possible. Option three clearly says:
"It'll be expensive,"
so that's out.
Honestly, I think I have to go with option two. Our income tax is a criminally-high 3 percent right now, so if this government wants to stay in business, we're going to have to hack and slash whatever we can out of the budget.
Thank you, though. Even though I'm picking the opposite option, if it wasn't for your suggestion, my thought process wouldn't have been spurred into action.
(And what a great horse-riding metaphor from the one who calls himself "Caballero!")
Thanks again.
-Caballero
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Postby Ros Ekasna » Sat Apr 09, 2011 5:25 am

San Martin Caballero wrote:For the life of me, I cannot discern the most Godly way of approaching this dilemma.

Police Wanting Help With Their Inquiries

The Issue
After delayed DNA evidence put a notorious rapist behind bars the police have demanded that it be mandatory for those accused of a crime to surrender blood and tissue samples to aid the elimination process.

The Debate
1. "I'm surprised this hasn't been brought up sooner," says Chief Constable Abraham Shiomi. "If we have DNA samples of all the accused it will make solving crimes like rape and murder that much faster! Sure, some people will think it's a tad invasive, but in my experience if you're worried by something like giving up a few drops of the red stuff then you've probably got something to hide."

2. "This is a breach of privacy in every meaning of the word!" criminal defence attorney Roxanne Mombota exclaims. "Or three words, but this is an outrage! It's these peoples' bodies, not the government's nor the police's. If they want to give a DNA sample it should be THEIR decision! Now I'll admit there have been times when DNA sampling has helped solve a case or two but shouldn't we be upholding the inherent right of every man and woman to have their body remain unmolested unless they should so choose it? Undoubtedly! DNA sampling should only take place with the person's informed consent."

3. "What about the victims of these crimes?" asks DI Konrad King, ever gruff and stalwart in the face of adversity. "Do they not have rights? Their right to privacy's been violated so it ought to be the responsibility of the criminal to give up his own. What I propose is the collection of DNA samples from every citizen in San Martin Caballero so we can track down the culprit if none of our suspects come up with anything. It'll be expensive, sure, there's 128 million people to go through... but it's just a small blood sample. Don't you think it's worth it?"

I looked all over the Internet, but couldn't find an official Catholic church position on this issue.
And San Martin Caballero's current crime rate is irrelevant. It would be better to live in the most crime-ridden country in the world if that country were right with the Lord than a country that has sold its soul for a low crime rate.
What do my brothers in Christ suggest?
Yours in Christ,
San Martin Caballero


Either one or three, unless the deadline's already gone... in which case I'm sure you chose wisely :)

As long as there is a guarantee that a DNA database will not be abused then no problem.
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Postby The Holy Forden Church » Sat Apr 09, 2011 6:20 am

The Holy Pupa would like to sign the charter.

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Postby Tsardom Universalis » Sun Apr 10, 2011 8:31 am

The Holy Forden Church wrote:The Holy Pupa would like to sign the charter.

Very well, welcome!
You have been vouched for - not that I have any doubts! I take your expression of interest as an acceptance of the charter and I shall add you as a signatory.

We also encourage you to move to our region, you may decline our invitation to relocate if you have strong ties with your current region and do not wish to leave - we will not hold it against you!
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Postby Ros Ekasna » Sun Apr 10, 2011 11:27 am

Tsardom Universalis wrote:
The Holy Forden Church wrote:The Holy Pupa would like to sign the charter.

Very well, welcome!
You have been vouched for - not that I have any doubts! I take your expression of interest as an acceptance of the charter and I shall add you as a signatory.

We also encourage you to move to our region, you may decline our invitation to relocate if you have strong ties with your current region and do not wish to leave - we will not hold it against you!


Yes, yes! Welcome to the Coalition!
Economic Left/Right: -4.12
Social Libertarianism/Authoritianism: -0.82

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Postby San Martin Caballero » Sun Apr 10, 2011 1:38 pm

Yes, welcome, Forden.

I largely forgot what I was going to write about the results of that last issue, but...
...the gist of it was that taxes went down from 3 to 2 percent. Progress, but still a ways to go.
A country with the ethnic makeup and politics of Utah,
but Catholic instead of Mormon.

A country that worships Empress Alexandra Sexbunny
of the Empire of Sexbunnies
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