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Tuvanosibirsk
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Founded: May 16, 2011
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Postby Tuvanosibirsk » Thu May 19, 2011 9:51 am

Application
Name of Nation: The Disputed Land of Tuvanosibirsk, Kingdom of the Sibir
Form of Monarchy: Tribal Puppet-Kingdom controlled by Zhenghouan and Brautoslavian factions
Leader: Puppet: King Liong Chuuk. Zhenghouan Prince: Emperor Wao Tze. Brautoslav prince: Emperor Andrew
Religion: Buddhist and Sherup (Animism)
Political Affiliation: Split

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Zhenghou Wao dynasty
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Founded: Mar 12, 2011
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Postby Zhenghou Wao dynasty » Thu May 19, 2011 9:52 am

Tuvanosibirsk wrote:Application
Name of Nation: The Disputed Land of Tuvanosibirsk, Kingdom of the Sibir
Form of Monarchy: Tribal Puppet-Kingdom controlled by Zhenghouan and Brautoslavian factions
Leader: Puppet: King Liong Chuuk. Zhenghouan Prince: Emperor Wao Tze. Brautoslav prince: Emperor Andrew
Religion: Buddhist and Sherup (Animism)
Political Affiliation: Split

accepted
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Emperor: Wao Tze
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Join the League of Monarchist States, then move to its region, Monarchist Continent and Archipelago
for more on LMS contact me, Darmen, Sensimillistan, or Ambrosius Aurelandius

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The Eurasias
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Founded: Apr 03, 2011
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Postby The Eurasias » Sat May 21, 2011 7:22 pm

Application
Name of Nation: The United Kingdom of The Eurasias
Form of Monarchy: Constitutional Monarchy
Leader: King John XVI
Religion: Christianity
Political Affiliation: Monarchist
All For One, One for All

Everyone is a Product of The State

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Aestalis
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Founded: May 04, 2011
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Postby Aestalis » Sun May 22, 2011 5:35 am

Application
Name of Nation: Kingdom of Aestalis
Form of Monarchy: Absolute Monarchy
Leader: King James I
Religion: Roman Catholicism
Political Affiliation: Conservative

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Darmen
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Founded: Jan 16, 2011
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Postby Darmen » Sun May 22, 2011 11:54 am

Eurasias and Aestalis have been accepted.
The Republic of Darmen
President: Sebastian Elliott (NLP) | Capital: Scott City | Population: 10.6 mil | Demonym: Darmeni | Trigramme: DAR
Factbook (WIP) | Encylopedia | Domestic Sports Newswire
Champions: CoH 51, CR 13, GCF Test 9, GCF Test 13, WBC 25, QWC 7 Runners-up: CoH 53, CR 10, GCF Test 11, T20C 2, T20C 4, RLWC 10, WBC 42
Third: CR 20, T20C 10, RLWC 20, RLWC 22, R7WC 4, WBC 21, BC 6 Host: CR 9, RWC 18, RWC 26, RWC 35, RLWC 12, RLWC 18, RLWC 22, BC 6, BC 10, WVE 4

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Fonteveille
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Founded: May 20, 2011
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Postby Fonteveille » Sun May 22, 2011 5:10 pm

Application
Name of Nation: The Principality of Fonteveille
Form of Monarchy: Constitutional
Leader: Prince Alexandre II
Religion: Deism
Political Affiliation: Centrist

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Darmen
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Founded: Jan 16, 2011
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Postby Darmen » Sun May 22, 2011 5:15 pm

Fonteveille wrote: Application
Name of Nation: The Principality of Fonteveille
Form of Monarchy: Constitutional
Leader: Prince Alexandre II
Religion: Deism
Political Affiliation: Centrist

accepted
The Republic of Darmen
President: Sebastian Elliott (NLP) | Capital: Scott City | Population: 10.6 mil | Demonym: Darmeni | Trigramme: DAR
Factbook (WIP) | Encylopedia | Domestic Sports Newswire
Champions: CoH 51, CR 13, GCF Test 9, GCF Test 13, WBC 25, QWC 7 Runners-up: CoH 53, CR 10, GCF Test 11, T20C 2, T20C 4, RLWC 10, WBC 42
Third: CR 20, T20C 10, RLWC 20, RLWC 22, R7WC 4, WBC 21, BC 6 Host: CR 9, RWC 18, RWC 26, RWC 35, RLWC 12, RLWC 18, RLWC 22, BC 6, BC 10, WVE 4

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Darmen
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Postby Darmen » Tue May 24, 2011 2:15 pm

So I finally finished it. Thats right, I finished the constitution. Well, a draft at least. I'm bad at writing constitutions off the top of my head. So I'd like your feedback at how I we can make this Constitution better. Simply read the Draft and then fill out the feedback form.
Constitution of the League of Monarchist States
Preamble
The following is the supreme and highest law of the League. It establishes the government and governing system of the League.

The League of Monarchist States is dedicated to the preservation of Monarchism worldwide, touched by the plight of poor people world over, and ready to fight to overthrow the evil leaders of the world, and to replace them with good ones, to preserve of balance and order worldwide through preferably diplomatic means, and to the prosperity of our brother monarchies within.

The League of Monarchist States strives to spread the ideals of the Monarchy to all nations of the world. The League believes in truth, justice, and equality. The League does not tolerate raiders, raider organizations, or raider regions, and shall not indulge in diplomatic relations with them.

Article 1-Federal Government
Section 1-Speaker
The position of Speaker shall be an elected position. The duties of Speaker shall include,
-Representing the League in Diplomatic Functions
-Running Elections
-Settling disputes between member nations
-Leading the League in everyday situations
The Speaker shall serve a term of 100 days.

Section 2-Lord Protector
The position of Lord Protector shall be an elected position. The duties of the Lord Protector shall include,
-Representing the League in Diplomatic Functions
-Settling disputes between member nations
-Serve as the Honorary head of the Assembly
-Take over for the Speaker when the Speaker is unable to perform his duties
The Lord Protector shall serve a term of 100 days.

Section 3-Minister of the Military
The position of Military Minister shall be an elected position. The duties of the Military Minister shall include,
-Calling up the militia
-Overseeing the actions of the militia
-Brings proposals of War to the Assembly
The Minister of the Military shall serve a term of 100 days.

Section 4-WA Delegate
The WA Delegate can be any nation that is a member of the World Assembly. The duties of the WA Delegate shall include,
-Representing the League in the World Assembly
-Help to protect the Region from “Raiders”
The WA can serve an unlimited term and elections for the WA Delegate are never ending.

Article 2-The Assembly
Section 1-Definition
The Assembly shall be made up of representatives from different nations. The representatives shall be elected by the member states. Their shall be 1 representative for every 3 nations that are a part of the LMS. Representatives will serve a 100 day term.

Section 2-Duties
The duties of the Assembly shall include,
-Voting on Declarations of War
-Voting on Proposals
-Impeaching the Speaker
-Impeaching the Lord Protector
-Impeaching the Military Minister

Article 3-The Supreme Court
Section 1-Definition
The Supreme Court shall be made up of 3 judges from member nations. The judges will be elected. Judges will serve a 100 day term.

Section 2-Duties
The duties of the Supreme Court shall include,
-Trying all cases of treason
-Making sure all proposals passed by the Assembly are constitutional
-Overseeing all cases of impeachment

Article 4-Elections
Section 1-Time Table
Candidates can register with the Election Committee on Days 90-95 of the Speakers term. The election will take place on Days 96-98 of the Speakers term, leaving a two day transition period.

Section 2-Election Committee
The Election Committee will be made up of citizens from the Nation of the Speaker. Its job will be to help the Speaker run the elections. The Duties of the Election Committee shall include,
-Compiling a list of Registered Candidates
-Making the Ballot
-Counting Votes
-Announcing the results

Section 3-Election Disputes/Problems
Any disputes and or problems related to the Election shall be resolved by the Speaker. Any disputes and or problems related to the Speaker Election shall be resolved by the Lord Protector.

Section 4-Political Parties/Affiliations
It is not required for Candidates to be affiliated with political parties to run, nor is it required for the Candidates to say what party they are affiliated with, but it is encouraged for Candidates to.

Article 5-Security Council
Section 1-Makeup
The Security Council shall be made up of six representatives. Permanent members include Ambrosius Aurelianus, Darmen, Sensimillastan, and Zhenghou. The other two positions shall be elected for a 100 day term.

Section 2-Positions
The Security Council shall have these positions,
-Chairman
-Human Rights Commissioner (Head of Human Rights Council)
-Intelligence Commissioner
-Field Command
The Chairman shall permanently be a representative from Sensimillastan, the Human Rights Commissioner shall permanently be a representative from Darmen, the Intelligence Commissioner shall permanently be a representative from Ambrosius Aurelianus, and the Field Command shall be made up of Generals from the Sensimillastan and Ferginshnagin armies.

Section 3-Duties of the Security Council
The Duties of the Security Council shall include
-Bringing Proposals of War before the Assembly
-Working with the Military Minister in times of War
-Gathering Intelligence on Member Countries and Enemies
-Ensuring Human Rights are not infringed upon by the member states

Section 4-Human Rights Council
The Human Rights Council shall be made up of Darmen, Ambrosius Aurelianus, and The Holy Forden Church. The Holy Forden Church will only have voting powers in the Human Rights Council, not the actual Security Council. Duties of the Human Rights Council shall include,
-Making sure all member nations do not infringe on their citizens human rights
-Deciding on an appropriate action to take against states that have infringed on the human rights of its citizens
-Bring Proposals of War to the Security Council should the war be because of the infringement of human rights

Article 6-The Military
Section 1
The Military shall be known as the Militia of the LMS. It shall be lead by a General from the Army of the Military Ministers Nation. All nations, with the exception of The Holy Forden Church, shall be required to give 10-25% of their military to the LMS Militia.

Section 2
The Militia shall only be used after the Security Council, Assembly, and Speaker give their ok. The Speaker also will have the power to use the Militia without the consent of the Security Council and Assembly for 14 days.

Article 7-Amendments
Amendments can be made to the Constitution with the consent of 50% of the Leagues members. Amendments can be proposed by the Speaker, Lord Protector, and the Assembly.

Article 8-Bill of Rights
The following is a list of rights that all member states have;
-The right to Vote.
-The right to Free Speech.
-The right to choose their “National” religion.
-The right to be involved in government.

On a scale of 1 to 10, what rating would you give the Constitution?__
If you could change one thing, what would it be?__
Do you have any other thoughts, questions, or concerns?__

EDIT #1:
Article 5, Section 2
Changed from:"The Chairman shall permanently be a representative from Sensimillastan, the Human Rights Commissioner shall permanently be a representative from Darmen, the Intelligence Commissioner shall permanently be a representative from Ambrosius Aurelianus, and the Field Command shall be made up of Generals from the Sensimillastan and Darmen armies."

To:"The Chairman shall permanently be a representative from Sensimillastan, the Human Rights Commissioner shall permanently be a representative from Darmen, the Intelligence Commissioner shall permanently be a representative from Ambrosius Aurelianus, and the Field Command shall be made up of Generals from the Sensimillastan and Ferginshnagin armies."
Last edited by Darmen on Tue May 24, 2011 5:40 pm, edited 2 times in total.
The Republic of Darmen
President: Sebastian Elliott (NLP) | Capital: Scott City | Population: 10.6 mil | Demonym: Darmeni | Trigramme: DAR
Factbook (WIP) | Encylopedia | Domestic Sports Newswire
Champions: CoH 51, CR 13, GCF Test 9, GCF Test 13, WBC 25, QWC 7 Runners-up: CoH 53, CR 10, GCF Test 11, T20C 2, T20C 4, RLWC 10, WBC 42
Third: CR 20, T20C 10, RLWC 20, RLWC 22, R7WC 4, WBC 21, BC 6 Host: CR 9, RWC 18, RWC 26, RWC 35, RLWC 12, RLWC 18, RLWC 22, BC 6, BC 10, WVE 4

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Thighearnain
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Founded: Oct 23, 2010
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Postby Thighearnain » Tue May 24, 2011 2:40 pm

Application

Name of nation: Free Kingdom of Thighearnain
Form of monarchy: semi-constitutional
Leader: King Harald II
Religion: Catholicism
Political affiliation: Right, moving towards left.
Full name: Imperial Provincial Kingdom of Thighearnain
Unified: 2 August 1369
Imperial Province established: 5 July 1983
King: Þór VII
Official languages: Dutch, English, Latin
Capital: Nucericum
Economic Left/Right: -2.12 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.36
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Ferginshnagin
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Founded: Apr 17, 2011
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Postby Ferginshnagin » Tue May 24, 2011 3:22 pm

Darmen wrote:Section 4-WA Delegate
The WA Delegate can be any nation that is a member of the World Assembly. The duties of the WA Delegate shall include,
-Representing the League in the World Assembly
-Help to protect the Region from “Raiders”
The WA can serve an unlimited term and elections for the WA Delegate are never ending.
Remember when the WFE said "Please endorse [nation] for he is your regional speaker." It seems to me that your just saying that because you lost and you want to stay delegate. The speaker should stay delegate.
Article 5-Security Council
Section 1-Makeup
The Security Council shall be made up of six representatives. Permanent members include Ambrosius Aurelianus, Darmen, Sensimillastan, and Zhenghou. The other two positions shall be elected for a 100 day term.
Why should you all get permanent seats? What makes you so special? ALL members should be elected.
Section 2-Positions
The Security Council shall have these positions,
-Chairman
-Human Rights Commissioner (Head of Human Rights Council)
-Intelligence Commissioner
-Field Command
The Chairman shall permanently be a representative from Sensimillastan, the Human Rights Commissioner shall permanently be a representative from Darmen, the Intelligence Commissioner shall permanently be a representative from Ambrosius Aurelianus, and the Field Command shall be made up of Generals from the Sensimillastan and Darmen armies.
Also you gave all the positions to the permanent members including 2 to yourself, are the elected members just for show?

Here's your feedback:
On a scale of 1 to 10, what rating would you give the Constitution? 0
If you could change one thing, what would it be? See above
Do you have any other thoughts, questions, or concerns? See above

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Darmen
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Postby Darmen » Tue May 24, 2011 5:31 pm

Ferginshnagin wrote:
Darmen wrote:Section 4-WA Delegate
The WA Delegate can be any nation that is a member of the World Assembly. The duties of the WA Delegate shall include,
-Representing the League in the World Assembly
-Help to protect the Region from “Raiders”
The WA can serve an unlimited term and elections for the WA Delegate are never ending.
Remember when the WFE said "Please endorse [nation] for he is your regional speaker." It seems to me that your just saying that because you lost and you want to stay delegate. The speaker should stay delegate.
Article 5-Security Council
Section 1-Makeup
The Security Council shall be made up of six representatives. Permanent members include Ambrosius Aurelianus, Darmen, Sensimillastan, and Zhenghou. The other two positions shall be elected for a 100 day term.
Why should you all get permanent seats? What makes you so special? ALL members should be elected.
Section 2-Positions
The Security Council shall have these positions,
-Chairman
-Human Rights Commissioner (Head of Human Rights Council)
-Intelligence Commissioner
-Field Command
The Chairman shall permanently be a representative from Sensimillastan, the Human Rights Commissioner shall permanently be a representative from Darmen, the Intelligence Commissioner shall permanently be a representative from Ambrosius Aurelianus, and the Field Command shall be made up of Generals from the Sensimillastan and Darmen armies.
Also you gave all the positions to the permanent members including 2 to yourself, are the elected members just for show?

Here's your feedback:
On a scale of 1 to 10, what rating would you give the Constitution? 0
If you could change one thing, what would it be? See above
Do you have any other thoughts, questions, or concerns? See above

1. The WA Delegate and Speaker are basicly seperate. It's hard to always get people to endorse the Speaker as the WA Delegate. Also your saying that the Speaker has to be a member of the WA, that's not exactly fair to all of the non-WA members.
2. The four contries that got permanent seats on the Security Council have been in the LMS for a long time. In fact Sensi, and Ambrosius were all part of the first group of nations to join the LMS. And Zhenghou founded it. Also when the Security Council idea was introduced by Zhenghou, it was stated that the four above mention nations would be permanent members.
3. Not all of the posistions were given to the permanent members, all though I will give you "most of them."
After taking your thoughts into acount I will make some changes.
The Republic of Darmen
President: Sebastian Elliott (NLP) | Capital: Scott City | Population: 10.6 mil | Demonym: Darmeni | Trigramme: DAR
Factbook (WIP) | Encylopedia | Domestic Sports Newswire
Champions: CoH 51, CR 13, GCF Test 9, GCF Test 13, WBC 25, QWC 7 Runners-up: CoH 53, CR 10, GCF Test 11, T20C 2, T20C 4, RLWC 10, WBC 42
Third: CR 20, T20C 10, RLWC 20, RLWC 22, R7WC 4, WBC 21, BC 6 Host: CR 9, RWC 18, RWC 26, RWC 35, RLWC 12, RLWC 18, RLWC 22, BC 6, BC 10, WVE 4

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Darmen
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Postby Darmen » Tue May 24, 2011 5:32 pm

Thighearnain wrote:Application

Name of nation: Free Kingdom of Thighearnain
Form of monarchy: semi-constitutional
Leader: King Harald II
Religion: Catholicism
Political affiliation: Right, moving towards left.

accepted
The Republic of Darmen
President: Sebastian Elliott (NLP) | Capital: Scott City | Population: 10.6 mil | Demonym: Darmeni | Trigramme: DAR
Factbook (WIP) | Encylopedia | Domestic Sports Newswire
Champions: CoH 51, CR 13, GCF Test 9, GCF Test 13, WBC 25, QWC 7 Runners-up: CoH 53, CR 10, GCF Test 11, T20C 2, T20C 4, RLWC 10, WBC 42
Third: CR 20, T20C 10, RLWC 20, RLWC 22, R7WC 4, WBC 21, BC 6 Host: CR 9, RWC 18, RWC 26, RWC 35, RLWC 12, RLWC 18, RLWC 22, BC 6, BC 10, WVE 4

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Darmen
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Postby Darmen » Tue May 24, 2011 5:34 pm

Ferginshnagin wrote:The Security Council shall be made up of six representatives. Permanent members include Ambrosius Aurelianus, Darmen, Sensimillastan, and Zhenghou. The other two positions shall be elected for a 100 day term.
Why should you all get permanent seats? What makes you so special? ALL members should be elected.
Also we are probably the most active nations in the LMS, although I will say that Zhenghou hasn't been as active as usual.
The Republic of Darmen
President: Sebastian Elliott (NLP) | Capital: Scott City | Population: 10.6 mil | Demonym: Darmeni | Trigramme: DAR
Factbook (WIP) | Encylopedia | Domestic Sports Newswire
Champions: CoH 51, CR 13, GCF Test 9, GCF Test 13, WBC 25, QWC 7 Runners-up: CoH 53, CR 10, GCF Test 11, T20C 2, T20C 4, RLWC 10, WBC 42
Third: CR 20, T20C 10, RLWC 20, RLWC 22, R7WC 4, WBC 21, BC 6 Host: CR 9, RWC 18, RWC 26, RWC 35, RLWC 12, RLWC 18, RLWC 22, BC 6, BC 10, WVE 4

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Darmen
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Postby Darmen » Tue May 24, 2011 5:40 pm

EDIT #1 made to Constitution draft.
The Republic of Darmen
President: Sebastian Elliott (NLP) | Capital: Scott City | Population: 10.6 mil | Demonym: Darmeni | Trigramme: DAR
Factbook (WIP) | Encylopedia | Domestic Sports Newswire
Champions: CoH 51, CR 13, GCF Test 9, GCF Test 13, WBC 25, QWC 7 Runners-up: CoH 53, CR 10, GCF Test 11, T20C 2, T20C 4, RLWC 10, WBC 42
Third: CR 20, T20C 10, RLWC 20, RLWC 22, R7WC 4, WBC 21, BC 6 Host: CR 9, RWC 18, RWC 26, RWC 35, RLWC 12, RLWC 18, RLWC 22, BC 6, BC 10, WVE 4

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Ferginshnagin
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Postby Ferginshnagin » Tue May 24, 2011 6:06 pm

Darmen wrote:1. The WA Delegate and Speaker are basicly seperate. It's hard to always get people to endorse the Speaker as the WA Delegate. Also your saying that the Speaker has to be a member of the WA, that's not exactly fair to all of the non-WA members.

OK then shouldn't we have delegate elections

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Logmania
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Postby Logmania » Tue May 24, 2011 6:10 pm

Application
Name of Nation:Empire of Logmania
Form of Monarchy:constitutional
Leader:Emporer Logan III
Religion:Christian
Political Affiliation:Right

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Darmen
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Postby Darmen » Tue May 24, 2011 6:14 pm

Ferginshnagin wrote:
Darmen wrote:1. The WA Delegate and Speaker are basicly seperate. It's hard to always get people to endorse the Speaker as the WA Delegate. Also your saying that the Speaker has to be a member of the WA, that's not exactly fair to all of the non-WA members.

OK then shouldn't we have delegate elections

Again the Delegate elections are never ending. The WA Delegate will be the nation with the most endorsements and that can change at any time.
The Republic of Darmen
President: Sebastian Elliott (NLP) | Capital: Scott City | Population: 10.6 mil | Demonym: Darmeni | Trigramme: DAR
Factbook (WIP) | Encylopedia | Domestic Sports Newswire
Champions: CoH 51, CR 13, GCF Test 9, GCF Test 13, WBC 25, QWC 7 Runners-up: CoH 53, CR 10, GCF Test 11, T20C 2, T20C 4, RLWC 10, WBC 42
Third: CR 20, T20C 10, RLWC 20, RLWC 22, R7WC 4, WBC 21, BC 6 Host: CR 9, RWC 18, RWC 26, RWC 35, RLWC 12, RLWC 18, RLWC 22, BC 6, BC 10, WVE 4

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Postby Darmen » Tue May 24, 2011 6:14 pm

Logmania wrote:Application
Name of Nation:Empire of Logmania
Form of Monarchy:constitutional
Leader:Emporer Logan III
Religion:Christian
Political Affiliation:Right

accepted
The Republic of Darmen
President: Sebastian Elliott (NLP) | Capital: Scott City | Population: 10.6 mil | Demonym: Darmeni | Trigramme: DAR
Factbook (WIP) | Encylopedia | Domestic Sports Newswire
Champions: CoH 51, CR 13, GCF Test 9, GCF Test 13, WBC 25, QWC 7 Runners-up: CoH 53, CR 10, GCF Test 11, T20C 2, T20C 4, RLWC 10, WBC 42
Third: CR 20, T20C 10, RLWC 20, RLWC 22, R7WC 4, WBC 21, BC 6 Host: CR 9, RWC 18, RWC 26, RWC 35, RLWC 12, RLWC 18, RLWC 22, BC 6, BC 10, WVE 4

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Ferginshnagin
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Postby Ferginshnagin » Tue May 24, 2011 6:18 pm

So are we voting on this?

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Darmen
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Postby Darmen » Tue May 24, 2011 6:35 pm

Ferginshnagin wrote:So are we voting on this?

Not right now, I'm still looking for more feedback from other members. I think that we'll vote on this during the next elections.
The Republic of Darmen
President: Sebastian Elliott (NLP) | Capital: Scott City | Population: 10.6 mil | Demonym: Darmeni | Trigramme: DAR
Factbook (WIP) | Encylopedia | Domestic Sports Newswire
Champions: CoH 51, CR 13, GCF Test 9, GCF Test 13, WBC 25, QWC 7 Runners-up: CoH 53, CR 10, GCF Test 11, T20C 2, T20C 4, RLWC 10, WBC 42
Third: CR 20, T20C 10, RLWC 20, RLWC 22, R7WC 4, WBC 21, BC 6 Host: CR 9, RWC 18, RWC 26, RWC 35, RLWC 12, RLWC 18, RLWC 22, BC 6, BC 10, WVE 4

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Zhenghou Wao dynasty
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Postby Zhenghou Wao dynasty » Tue May 24, 2011 7:29 pm

The Zhenghouan Supreme Delegate and the Emperor stand.

We feel that the Great Empire of Zhenghou should have the position of Chairman of the SC. Sensemillistan can hold our position. otherwise, our nation accepts the charter
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As a second motion, the nation of Ravineworld has pleaded to rejoin the League after the felony they comitted, they will be a non voting nation whose delegates will not be eligible to stand for election/ endorsements to be speaker for 500 days. This nation has mostly obeyed their sentence dutifully and deserve the right to rejoin. I come recognizing and ridiculing them for their nation's felonies. However we must pay recognition for otherwise loyal conduct. they have done the following to contribute to the league:
-write our 2nd charter
-help start our campaigns against raiders.
Hereby We ask the SC of the LMS to consider this proposal
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Contact Zhenghou Wao Dynasty
Emperor: Wao Tze
Etcetera, Etcetera, Etcetera, in he Words of the King of Siam in the King and I
LMS
Join the League of Monarchist States, then move to its region, Monarchist Continent and Archipelago
for more on LMS contact me, Darmen, Sensimillistan, or Ambrosius Aurelandius

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Aestalis
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Founded: May 04, 2011
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Postby Aestalis » Tue May 24, 2011 8:21 pm

Darmen wrote:Article 1-Federal Government
Section 1-Speaker
The position of Speaker shall be an elected position. The duties of Speaker shall include,
-Representing the League in Diplomatic Functions
-Running Elections
-Settling disputes between member nations
-Leading the League in everyday situations
The Speaker shall serve a term of 100 days.

Section 2-Lord Protector
The position of Lord Protector shall be an elected position. The duties of the Lord Protector shall include,
-Representing the League in Diplomatic Functions
-Settling disputes between member nations
-Serve as the Honorary head of the Assembly
-Take over for the Speaker when the Speaker is unable to perform his duties
The Lord Protector shall serve a term of 100 days.


The Lord Protector has the exact same duties as the Speaker, save an honorary title. Having two offices that can lead the League, and can settle disputes will almost always cause conflict. What if the Speaker and the LP are at odds on how to represent, or how to settle a dispute? Which office prevails?

I propose that either the speaker or the LP office is abolished and all powers and duties are held in one office. It's much more efficient.

Section 3-Minister of the Military
The position of Military Minister shall be an elected position. The duties of the Military Minister shall include,
-Calling up the militia
-Overseeing the actions of the militia
-Brings proposals of War to the Assembly
The Minister of the Military shall serve a term of 100 days.


Section 4-WA Delegate
The WA Delegate can be any nation that is a member of the World Assembly. The duties of the WA Delegate shall include,
-Representing the League in the World Assembly
-Help to protect the Region from “Raiders”
The WA can serve an unlimited term and elections for the WA Delegate are never ending.


Article 2-The Assembly
Section 1-Definition
The Assembly shall be made up of representatives from different nations. The representatives shall be elected by the member states. Their shall be 1 representative for every 3 nations that are a part of the LMS. Representatives will serve a 100 day term.


What do you mean by 1 representative for every 3 nations? Are we talking puppet nations, because that needs to specified.

Section 2-Duties
The duties of the Assembly shall include,
-Voting on Declarations of War
-Voting on Proposals
-Impeaching the Speaker
-Impeaching the Lord Protector
-Impeaching the Military Minister


Article 3-The Supreme Court
Section 1-Definition
The Supreme Court shall be made up of 3 judges from member nations. The judges will be elected. Judges will serve a 100 day term.

Section 2-Duties
The duties of the Supreme Court shall include,
-Trying all cases of treason
-Making sure all proposals passed by the Assembly are constitutional
-Overseeing all cases of impeachment


This judicial organ seems unnecessary. The Assembly should impeach it's own members and officers, that is the way it is generally done in democratic chambers. And the duty of "making sure all proposals passed by the Assembly are constitutional" is illegitimate, as there are no actual provisions to go against, save the Bill of Rights, which is so general that almost any proposal will fall in line with them.

Article 4-Elections
Section 1-Time Table
Candidates can register with the Election Committee on Days 90-95 of the Speakers term. The election will take place on Days 96-98 of the Speakers term, leaving a two day transition period.

Section 2-Election Committee
The Election Committee will be made up of citizens from the Nation of the Speaker. Its job will be to help the Speaker run the elections. The Duties of the Election Committee shall include,
-Compiling a list of Registered Candidates
-Making the Ballot
-Counting Votes
-Announcing the results

Section 3-Election Disputes/Problems
Any disputes and or problems related to the Election shall be resolved by the Speaker. Any disputes and or problems related to the Speaker Election shall be resolved by the Lord Protector.


Section 3 is simply not possible to agree to. In this situation, there is nothing to stop the offices fro colluding and resolving disputes in each other's favour.
Disputes and problems in elections can be fixed by redoing the election, and even then I don't see many disputes actually happening, the votes are always pretty clear.

Section 4-Political Parties/Affiliations
It is not required for Candidates to be affiliated with political parties to run, nor is it required for the Candidates to say what party they are affiliated with, but it is encouraged for Candidates to.


I don't think this needs to be in. Party politics generally doesn't apply to inter-governmental organisations like this.

Article 5-Security Council
Section 1-Makeup
The Security Council shall be made up of six representatives. Permanent members include Ambrosius Aurelianus, Darmen, Sensimillastan, and Zhenghou. The other two positions shall be elected for a 100 day term.

Section 2-Positions
The Security Council shall have these positions,
-Chairman
-Human Rights Commissioner (Head of Human Rights Council)
-Intelligence Commissioner
-Field Command
The Chairman shall permanently be a representative from Sensimillastan, the Human Rights Commissioner shall permanently be a representative from Darmen, the Intelligence Commissioner shall permanently be a representative from Ambrosius Aurelianus, and the Field Command shall be made up of Generals from the Sensimillastan and Ferginshnagin armies.


Okay this Article has the most issues. I won't support any permanent members if there is to be a Security Council.
What is to happen if one permanent member leaves the League? We will need a whole constitutional re-vote to fix the situation. That's not efficient.

Section 3-Duties of the Security Council
The Duties of the Security Council shall include
-Bringing Proposals of War before the Assembly
-Working with the Military Minister in times of War
-Gathering Intelligence on Member Countries and Enemies
-Ensuring Human Rights are not infringed upon by the member states


"Bringing Proposals of War before the Assembly" is a role of the Military Minister. Again, we have two bodies doing one thing, and that won't work.
All of these functions can be carried out by the Military Minister, in conjunction with the Assembly.

Section 4-Human Rights Council
The Human Rights Council shall be made up of Darmen, Ambrosius Aurelianus, and The Holy Forden Church. The Holy Forden Church will only have voting powers in the Human Rights Council, not the actual Security Council. Duties of the Human Rights Council shall include,
-Making sure all member nations do not infringe on their citizens human rights
-Deciding on an appropriate action to take against states that have infringed on the human rights of its citizens
-Bring Proposals of War to the Security Council should the war be because of the infringement of human rights


Member nations should have the right to do what they wish in their borders. This Council violates national sovereignty way too much, and also encroaches on the duties of other bodies.

Article 6-The Military
Section 1
The Military shall be known as the Militia of the LMS. It shall be lead by a General from the Army of the Military Ministers Nation. All nations, with the exception of The Holy Forden Church, shall be required to give 10-25% of their military to the LMS Militia.


Why does one nation get exempted? If there are to be exemptions, there should be clear criteria for such exemptions.

Section 2
The Militia shall only be used after the Security Council, Assembly, and Speaker give their ok. The Speaker also will have the power to use the Militia without the consent of the Security Council and Assembly for 14 days.


This is the like the USA War Powers Act, and it isn't something we should be following. I can't support this.

Article 7-Amendments
Amendments can be made to the Constitution with the consent of 50% of the Leagues members. Amendments can be proposed by the Speaker, Lord Protector, and the Assembly.


I think you mean 50%+1 of members nations, which is an absolute majority.

Article 8-Bill of Rights
The following is a list of rights that all member states have;
-The right to Vote.
-The right to Free Speech.
-The right to choose their “National” religion.
-The right to be involved in government.


I don't think this is necessary. If we have a Bill of Rights, which I don't support, it needs to be more comprehensive and clear.

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Aestalis
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Founded: May 04, 2011
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Postby Aestalis » Wed May 25, 2011 12:45 am

Member nations, I submit an alternate constitution that is largely a reworking of Darmen's, but also includes my own insight and revisions.

Article I: The Federal Government

1. The legislative power of the League shall be vested in ‘the Assembly,’ to be composed of one representative from each member nation of the League.

2. The duties of the Assembly shall be to
a. Declare war,
b. Impeach Officers of State,
c. Conduct treason trials, and
d. Pass legislation and proposals.

3. The executive power of the League shall be vested in ‘the Offices of State,’ which shall be the Lord Protector and the Minister for War.

4. The duties of the Lord Protector shall be to:
a. Represent the League in diplomacy,
b. Conduct free and fair elections by:
i. Compiling the ballot,
ii. Counting the votes, and
iii. Announcing the results,
c. Settle disputes between member nations, and
d. Lead the League in ordinary situations.

5. The Lord Protector shall be elected by an absolute majority of the Assembly and shall serve a term of 100 days.

6. The duties of the Minister for War shall be to:
a. Gather intelligence on member states and enemies,
b. Bring proposals for war to the Assembly,
c. Mobilise the Militia, and
d. Oversee military activities.

7. The Minister for War shall be elected by an absolute majority of the Assembly and shall serve a term of 100 days.

Article II: The World Assembly Delegate

8. The Delegate shall be the member state that receives the most endorsements from other member states.
9. The duties of the Delegate shall be to:
a. Represent the League at the World Assembly, and
b. Protect the region from raiders.

Article III: The Election Process

10. The Lord Protector shall open registration on the 90th day of their term, and close registration on the 95th day.
11. Elections shall take place on and including the 96th, 97th, and 98th days of the Lord Protector’s term.
12. Results shall be announced before the close of the 98th day of the Lord Protector’s term.
13. Newly elected officers shall take office on the day after the 100th day of the Lord Protector’s term.
14. Candidates elected at by-elections shall end their term at the same time as their predecessor would have.
15. Each member state shall have one vote per office, and candidates need an absolute majority of votes to win office.

Article IV: The Militia

16. The Minister for War is the Commander In Chief of the Armed Forces of the League, herein called ‘the Militia.’
17. The Commander In Chief, and if chosen by the Commander in Chief, a General from the National Army of the Minister for War, shall command the Militia.
18. All nations shall be required to give 10-25% of the material and personnel of their national military to the Militia.
19. Nations are exempt from providing material and personnel if they can convince the Assembly that:
a. They do not have the financial stability to provide material and personnel, or,
b. Providing material and personnel would pose a serious threat to their defensive capabilities, or,
c. Any other reason the Assembly deems appropriate.

20. The Militia may only be deployed after the Assembly issues a declaration of war, however, it may be mobilised at the command of the Minister for War.

Article V: Amendments

21. The Assembly may amend this constitution with an absolute majority wishing for an amendment.
22. All member nations may propose amendments.

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Ferginshnagin
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Founded: Apr 17, 2011
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Postby Ferginshnagin » Wed May 25, 2011 8:59 am

Aestalis wrote:Article I: The Federal Government

1. The legislative power of the League shall be vested in ‘the Assembly,’ to be composed of one representative from each member nation of the League.

2. The duties of the Assembly shall be to
a. Declare war,
b. Impeach Officers of State,
c. Conduct treason trials, and
d. Pass legislation and proposals.

3. The executive power of the League shall be vested in ‘the Offices of State,’ which shall be the Lord Protector and the Minister for War.

4. The duties of the Lord Protector shall be to:
a. Represent the League in diplomacy,
b. Conduct free and fair elections by:
i. Compiling the ballot,
ii. Counting the votes, and
iii. Announcing the results,
c. Settle disputes between member nations, and
d. Lead the League in ordinary situations.

5. The Lord Protector shall be elected by an absolute majority of the Assembly and shall serve a term of 100 days.

6. The duties of the Minister for War shall be to:
a. Gather intelligence on member states and enemies,
b. Bring proposals for war to the Assembly,
c. Mobilise the Militia, and
d. Oversee military activities.

7. The Minister for War shall be elected by an absolute majority of the Assembly and shall serve a term of 100 days.

Article II: The World Assembly Delegate

8. The Delegate shall be the member state that receives the most endorsements from other member states.
9. The duties of the Delegate shall be to:
a. Represent the League at the World Assembly, and
b. Protect the region from raiders.

Article III: The Election Process

10. The Lord Protector shall open registration on the 90th day of their term, and close registration on the 95th day.
11. Elections shall take place on and including the 96th, 97th, and 98th days of the Lord Protector’s term.
12. Results shall be announced before the close of the 98th day of the Lord Protector’s term.
13. Newly elected officers shall take office on the day after the 100th day of the Lord Protector’s term.
14. Candidates elected at by-elections shall end their term at the same time as their predecessor would have.
15. Each member state shall have one vote per office, and candidates need an absolute majority of votes to win office.

Article IV: The Militia

16. The Minister for War is the Commander In Chief of the Armed Forces of the League, herein called ‘the Militia.’
17. The Commander In Chief, and if chosen by the Commander in Chief, a General from the National Army of the Minister for War, shall command the Militia.
18. All nations shall be required to give 10-25% of the material and personnel of their national military to the Militia.
19. Nations are exempt from providing material and personnel if they can convince the Assembly that:
a. They do not have the financial stability to provide material and personnel, or,
b. Providing material and personnel would pose a serious threat to their defensive capabilities, or,
c. Any other reason the Assembly deems appropriate.

20. The Militia may only be deployed after the Assembly issues a declaration of war, however, it may be mobilised at the command of the Minister for War.

Article V: Amendments

21. The Assembly may amend this constitution with an absolute majority wishing for an amendment.
22. All member nations may propose amendments.

:clap: :clap: :clap: Much better

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Sensimillastan
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Posts: 489
Founded: Feb 11, 2011
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Postby Sensimillastan » Wed May 25, 2011 9:12 am

Aestalis wrote: Article I: The Federal Government[/b]

1. The legislative power of the League shall be vested in ‘the Assembly,’ to be composed of one representative from each member nation of the League.

2. The duties of the Assembly shall be to
a. Declare war,
b. Impeach Officers of State,
c. Conduct treason trials, and
d. Pass legislation and proposals.

3. The executive power of the League shall be vested in ‘the Offices of State,’ which shall be the Lord Protector and the Minister for War.

4. The duties of the Lord Protector shall be to:
a. Represent the League in diplomacy,
b. Conduct free and fair elections by:
i. Compiling the ballot,
ii. Counting the votes, and
iii. Announcing the results,
c. Settle disputes between member nations, and
d. Lead the League in ordinary situations.

5. The Lord Protector shall be elected by an absolute majority of the Assembly and shall serve a term of 100 days.

6. The duties of the Minister for War shall be to:
a. Gather intelligence on member states and enemies,
b. Bring proposals for war to the Assembly,
c. Mobilise the Militia, and
d. Oversee military activities.

7. The Minister for War shall be elected by an absolute majority of the Assembly and shall serve a term of 100 days.

Article II: The World Assembly Delegate

8. The Delegate shall be the member state that receives the most endorsements from other member states.
9. The duties of the Delegate shall be to:
a. Represent the League at the World Assembly, and
b. Protect the region from raiders.

Article III: The Election Process

10. The Lord Protector shall open registration on the 90th day of their term, and close registration on the 95th day.
11. Elections shall take place on and including the 96th, 97th, and 98th days of the Lord Protector’s term.
12. Results shall be announced before the close of the 98th day of the Lord Protector’s term.
13. Newly elected officers shall take office on the day after the 100th day of the Lord Protector’s term.
14. Candidates elected at by-elections shall end their term at the same time as their predecessor would have.
15. Each member state shall have one vote per office, and candidates need an absolute majority of votes to win office.

Article IV: The Militia

16. The Minister for War is the Commander In Chief of the Armed Forces of the League, herein called ‘the Militia.’
17. The Commander In Chief, and if chosen by the Commander in Chief, a General from the National Army of the Minister for War, shall command the Militia.
18. All nations shall be required to give 10-25% of the material and personnel of their national military to the Militia.
19. Nations are exempt from providing material and personnel if they can convince the Assembly that:
a. They do not have the financial stability to provide material and personnel, or,
b. Providing material and personnel would pose a serious threat to their defensive capabilities, or,
c. Any other reason the Assembly deems appropriate.



20. The Militia may only be deployed after the Assembly issues a declaration of war, however, it may be mobilised at the command of the Minister for War.

Article V: Amendments

21. The Assembly may amend this constitution with an absolute majority wishing for an amendment.
22. All member nations may propose amendments.[/spoiler]


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