Democritus Regional Senate (Democritus Only)

[Zackaroth]

Nay. And again if this bill passes, as with the Biological weapons bill we will not be letting inspectors in to violate Zackarothian sovereign territory.

[Greater Persian State]

We've amended it. That part has been removed."

[Zackaroth]

Then we ask, nations require to send aid for the afflicted party, does that include the afflicted nations themselves?

[New Metropolitan France]

"The Government of the Sixth Republic of France, after consulting with experts who advised us on the previously passed ABM restrictions, would like to present the following draft conditions. Feedback would be welcomed."

DRS Proposal 'Proportional ICBM Limitations'

Seeking to avoid a repeat of the colossal loss of civilian life seen in recent weeks by missile attacks hereby;

1. Defines Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles (ICBMs) as a missile which has a range greater than 5,500 km/3,417 miles, and further declares that the rest of this proposal shall not apply to ICBMs armed with nuclear warheads.
2. Allows nations to build, possess, test, and use ICBMs in combat so long as their warheads do not violate other previously passed DRS regulations.
3. Pegs the total number of ICBMs a country may possess to the existing limits on Anti-Ballistic Missile (ABM) systems covered by the Nuclear Nonproliferation Agreement. These limits are further explained in this new context as follows;

- Nations which did not possess any ABMs at the passing of the Nonproliferation Agreement and may create up to two ABM systems each with a maximum of one hundred missiles per system, are also able to posses up to two hundred ICBMs at one time.
- Nations who possessed ABMs at the passing of the Nonproliferation Agreement and may maintain their preexisting ABM stockpile, can build up to two additional ABM systems with a maximum of 50 missiles each, and also posses a force of 300 ICBMs.

4. Confirms that all nations may replenish their ABM and ICBM stockpiles to these maximum levels should ICBMs and ABMs be depleted.

EDIT: Coauthor credit for ideas incorporated include Greater Persian State, UDCS, (OOC: and Imperialist Sweden).

Ayes: New Metropolitan France, Greater Persian State, United Democratic Christian States, Zackaroth, Grandes Terres, Orostan, Puertollano.
Nay: NAF, Virrgo, Fregantes Empire.

[United Democratic Christian States]

Aye under french proposal.

[Grandes Terres]

Aye under French proposals.

[Fregantes Empire]

"Absolutely Nay, we will not send funds to nations who went to the level of idiocy to declare war, kill millions and devastate the lives of many more. They simply don't deserve it. We will allow our citizens to send aids and donations by themselves, but the Fregantese state will not help."

[Orostan]

Nay. You will not undermine the security of Orostan with this bill. We will continue producing ICBMs. The reason there was such death in Orostan was because we did not have enough ABM systems.

[Losconia]

"The NAF has thousands of ICBM's for our national security and foreign deterrence, and have not used them thus far. We do not support the current limitation of 300 ICBM's. We may consider changing our position if the limit is raised from 300 to at least 550. Our current vote is nay"

The Ambassador went on:

"How about we ban these weapons for specific nations rather than the rest of the world, the NAF quite literally did nothing wrong, why the hell should we loose our weapons? Orostan and Zackorath can not be trusted with these weapons, how about we ban it for them?"

[United Democratic Christian States]

"The NAF has thousands of ICBM's for our national security and foreign deterrence, and have not used them thus far. We do not support the current limitation of 300 ICBM's. We may consider changing our position if the limit is raised from 300 to at least 550. Our current vote is nay"

The Ambassador went on:

"How about we ban these weapons for specific nations rather than the rest of the world, the NAF quite literally did nothing wrong, why the hell should we loose our weapons? Orostan and Zackorath can not be trusted with these weapons, how about we ban it for them?"

The GU would keep their vote to aye under both of these amendments, should they be added.

[Orostan]

"The NAF has thousands of ICBM's for our national security and foreign deterrence, and have not used them thus far. We do not support the current limitation of 300 ICBM's. We may consider changing our position if the limit is raised from 300 to at least 550. Our current vote is nay"

The Ambassador went on:

"How about we ban these weapons for specific nations rather than the rest of the world, the NAF quite literally did nothing wrong, why the hell should we loose our weapons? Orostan and Zackorath can not be trusted with these weapons, how about we ban it for them?"

You act as if Orostan also killed 14 million people.

[Losconia]

"The NAF has thousands of ICBM's for our national security and foreign deterrence, and have not used them thus far. We do not support the current limitation of 300 ICBM's. We may consider changing our position if the limit is raised from 300 to at least 550. Our current vote is nay"

The Ambassador went on:

"How about we ban these weapons for specific nations rather than the rest of the world, the NAF quite literally did nothing wrong, why the hell should we loose our weapons? Orostan and Zackorath can not be trusted with these weapons, how about we ban it for them?"

You act as if Orostan also killed 14 million people.

"And you my kind sire, act as if you are not aware that your entire nation called for the destruction of another, your nation would not kill 14 million, but much much more if you had the weaponry to do so. Might I also add that it is your nation that started this mess" The ambassador firmly stated.

[Orostan]

You act as if Orostan also killed 14 million people.

"And you my kind sire, act as if you are not aware that your entire nation called for the destruction of another, your nation would not kill 14 million, but much much more if you had the weaponry to do so. Might I also add that it is your nation that started this mess" The ambassador firmly stated.

"We called for the destruction of a terrorist government, and our missile strikes did not target civilians."

[Zackaroth]

" As we said before, any attempt to get these weapons banned from our hands will not be acknowledged by us"

[Losconia]

"And you my kind sire, act as if you are not aware that your entire nation called for the destruction of another, your nation would not kill 14 million, but much much more if you had the weaponry to do so. Might I also add that it is your nation that started this mess" The ambassador firmly stated.

"We called for the destruction of a terrorist government, and our missile strikes did not target civilians."

"To destroy a government, you must first destroy the people that support it, and had your nation NOT launched missiles your nation would have been spared. If I may speak on my own behalf, but the current government in Orostan is too paranoid, and insecure to remain in power. It meddles in the affairs of other nations, only to be smacked in the face. It has no ability to think about consequences.

" As we said before, any attempt to get these weapons banned from our hands will not be acknowledged by us"

"No offense to Zackaroth, but I doubt the nation even has more than 300 ICBM's, even if Zackaroth did, they sure launched a significant amount of them, besides in what power does your all so majestic high-leader have over the DRS? None, no nation is above the DRS. I mean what is the DRS going to find? That the High-leader has a collection of the atrocities he committed to jerk off too?" The ambassador very aggressively stated, with fidgets in his arms and legs, with also twitches in his right eye. The man is clearly annoyed.

[Zackaroth]

"We have no problem with the limitations placed. We only had 140 and all of those where fired. A limit of 300-550 is fair. However, what is not fair is banning these weapons from our hands. And no one nation may be above the DRS, but that does not mean Zackaroth will listen to its inane bill designed to weaken us. You may call them atrocities, ambassador, but to us they have been very effective in winning or ending a war"

[Losconia]

"We have no problem with the limitations placed. We only had 140 and all of those where fired. A limit of 300-550 is fair. However, what is not fair is banning these weapons from our hands. And no one nation may be above the DRS, but that does not mean Zackaroth will listen to its inane bill designed to weaken us. You may call them atrocities, ambassador, but to us they have been very effective in winning or ending a war"

"Effective? It was quite effective in pissing off Orostan. It is effective in ending wars in the short-term, but in the long-term it the war will continue to rage on, as revenge is a circle that leads to more revenge. What happened recently is a prime example of this, and this will continue to happen to any nation that believes mass-murder is actually effective. Contrary to popular belief, committing atrocities do not make the people fear you, they make them hate you in the long run, and with hatred breads a thirst for blood. I mean, the all so wise high-leader thought it was proper to risk the entire continent and the security of the N.A.F with some biological weapon, and risk the ecosystem of the N.A.F, the continent, and arguably the world just to end one war. Talk about a near-sighted buffoon with no concept of what consequence-"

Before the ambassador could continue his angry rant, a Federal Guard walked into the room and handed the ambassador a phone.
"What do you want?"
"OH, yes sir?...I under...stand sir"
"Y..yes sir"

The Ambassador quickly left the room, not uttering a word.
The Guard spoke-up:
"Apologies for the harsh-words, in no-way was his statements a reflection of the N.A.F, nor do they represent her foreign relations in anyway. A fresh replacement will arrive momentarily."
The Guard then quietly walked out, to help escort the once-ambassador to the Airport.

[Virrgo]

"We believe as of now that since the NAF feels no current need to limit themselves within the guidelines of the proposal that we too in the USSR do not have to as well. We further state that or position at the crossroads of Europe and Asia requires an substantial amount of deterrents that this proposal would limit and as such prevent us from better defending ourselves. We must vote nay until these qualms are remedied."

[Puertollano]

"Nay."

[New Metropolitan France]

Nay. You will not undermine the security of Orostan with this bill. We will continue producing ICBMs. The reason there was such death in Orostan was because we did not have enough ABM systems.

If your enemy had only the same number of ICBMs as you had ABMs, does that not mean that millions would not have perished? That is the goal of this proposal - to give ABMs a chance against conventional ICBMs, but also maintain nuclear deterrence by not including nuclear weapons. I would also hope that the USSR and NAF will reconsider their position."

[Orostan]

Nay. You will not undermine the security of Orostan with this bill. We will continue producing ICBMs. The reason there was such death in Orostan was because we did not have enough ABM systems.

If your enemy had only the same number of ICBMs as you had ABMs, does that not mean that millions would not have perished? That is the goal of this proposal - to give ABMs a chance against conventional ICBMs, but also maintain nuclear deterrence by not including nuclear weapons. I would also hope that the USSR and NAF will reconsider their position."

"Orostan does not have Nuclear Weapons. Anyone who claims otherwise is lying to you. But you do make a convincing argument, and I change my vote to aye for this resolution."

[Greater Persian State]

"Aye."

[Puertollano]

"Due to collaborations with the French delegate, Puertollano will change its vote to aye."

[United Democratic Christian States]

I do believe the french proposal has passed...

[Greater Persian State]

DRS Proposal: Weapons and Munitions Trade Bureau

Observing how foreign imported-weapons to non-governmental groups in a sovereign nation started a bloody war that eventually led to the deaths of 15 million civilians in the resulting war.

Seeing as weapon trade has gone unmonitored for years and has lead to questionable transactions with dire consequences.

Respecting the Right to Legitimate Trade Between Sovereign Nations

Hereby Establishes The Weapons and Munitions Trade Bureau, to monitor and oversee all trade of weapons or munitions between organizations or governments. It will be led by a director appointed by the Speaker. It will have the power to postpone the transfer pending appropriate searches or further investigation, or deny the trade, which will be backed up by DRS Action.

Declares that legitimate trade between sovereign nations will not be hindered in any way unless in exceptional times or in times of great crisis when even legitimate trade could have extreme consequences for global stability. The WMTB will have less powers delegated to sovereign nations and legitimate governments trading weapons except in times of global war and crisis, but will still have certain powers to oversee and examine this sort of trade. To clarify matters, exceptionally large weapons trades, unconventional weapons, or any weapon resembling a Weapon of Mass Destruction is an example of legitimate trade subject to more than oversight, any level of weapons trade between governments to non-governmental groups is always subject to further regulation depending on the circumstances.

Aims to serve as an oversight to weapons trade, not a bureaucratic burden to legitimate trade.

Differentiates legitimate trade between sovereign legitimate governments at peace or engaging in necessary counter-terrorism and moving for global stability, between rouge state or legitimate nations attempting to arm non governmental organizations or nations in the midst of Civil War or similar conflict.

AMENDMENT: Any trades marked classified will not be made public in any way by the DRS, and the best effort will be made to screen and monitor the trade secretly and to avoid a breach in security which may occur if it was public.


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