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Postby Kanatistan » Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:34 am

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Postby Versail » Tue Nov 12, 2013 4:13 pm

I have a couple tank designs that won't be spoilered.
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Postby Greater Kosovo (Ancient) » Tue Nov 12, 2013 5:26 pm

We should create a single STO military, with each member state donating funds, troops, and weapons. It will create a powerful force that no one can destroy.
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Postby Democratic Union of Cydonia » Tue Nov 12, 2013 6:51 pm

Greater Kosovo wrote:We should create a single STO military, with each member state donating funds, troops, and weapons. It will create a powerful force that no one can destroy.

Thats the plan we seem to be doing. im going to tally up each nations contribution to the STO Military. Also I need every nation who hasnt contributed to do so.

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Postby Versail » Tue Nov 12, 2013 7:00 pm

Democratic Union of Cydonia wrote:
Greater Kosovo wrote:We should create a single STO military, with each member state donating funds, troops, and weapons. It will create a powerful force that no one can destroy.

Thats the plan we seem to be doing. im going to tally up each nations contribution to the STO Military. Also I need every nation who hasnt contributed to do so.

Can I design the armor division's please.
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Postby Democratic Union of Cydonia » Tue Nov 12, 2013 7:41 pm

Versail wrote:
Democratic Union of Cydonia wrote:Thats the plan we seem to be doing. im going to tally up each nations contribution to the STO Military. Also I need every nation who hasnt contributed to do so.

Can I design the armor division's please.

well sense you said you have a design yeah go for it.

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Postby Versail » Tue Nov 12, 2013 7:56 pm

Quick question.
Two or one barrel tank.
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Postby Democratic Union of Cydonia » Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:11 pm

Versail wrote:Quick question.
Two or one barrel tank.

Two 125mm as seen on the T-90 will work as our ememies are developing something similar. But I would keep a single 125mm design in case problems arise or something.

I was going to start funding for a single-barreled tank called Project Black Eagle for myself. I could propose that as a design for the single barreled back up.
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Postby Greater Kosovo (Ancient) » Wed Nov 13, 2013 2:01 pm

Well, my nation will probably donate just a very large amount of money.
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Postby Democratic Union of Cydonia » Wed Nov 13, 2013 3:32 pm

Greater Kosovo wrote:Well, my nation will probably donate just a very large amount of money.

Thats okay another nation is providing financial support as well.

Also as a notice our first RP with the RTO is up so I urge everyone to partcipate. It has not reached warfare yet and wont for awhile and we wont go to arms yet. I will provide asylum to the Bratislav government official however.

/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=270147
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Postby Versail » Wed Nov 13, 2013 3:44 pm

Got the tank specs up.
Primary weapon: 152mm smoothbore cannon.
Secondary weapons: rpo-a chemical flamethrower, 2 7.62 machine guns bolted to the sides of the turret.
Special features:A.R.E.N.A. Active defense, short range comm jammer, explosive reactive armor, and a 1375 hp diesal engine.
Crew:3
Weight:60 tons
Length:9.8m
Width:3.9m
Height:2.3m
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Postby Democratic Union of Cydonia » Wed Nov 13, 2013 4:37 pm

Versail wrote:Got the tank specs up.
Primary weapon: 152mm smoothbore cannon.
Secondary weapons: rpo-a chemical flamethrower, 2 7.62 machine guns bolted to the sides of the turret.
Special features:A.R.E.N.A. Active defense, shorta comm jammer, explosive reactive armor, and a 1375 hp diesal engine.
Crew:3
Weight:60 tons
Length:9.8m
Width:3.9m
Height:2.3m


Is the ERA Kontakt-5? And by diesel do you mean a Gas turbine engine?

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Postby Versail » Wed Nov 13, 2013 4:39 pm

Democratic Union of Cydonia wrote:
Versail wrote:Got the tank specs up.
Primary weapon: 152mm smoothbore cannon.
Secondary weapons: rpo-a chemical flamethrower, 2 7.62 machine guns bolted to the sides of the turret.
Special features:A.R.E.N.A. Active defense, shorta comm jammer, explosive reactive armor, and a 1375 hp diesal engine.
Crew:3
Weight:60 tons
Length:9.8m
Width:3.9m
Height:2.3m


Is the ERA Kontakt-5? And by diesel do you mean a Gas turbine engine?

Yes to gas turbine.
And no to era kontakt-5 this is something I cooked in my spare time.
What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, Whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or in the holy name of liberty or democracy?~ Gandhi.
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Postby The-United-Armed-Workers » Wed Nov 13, 2013 5:18 pm

Sorry that im late but I agree with the standardized round size idea too. Our troops are your troops we fight for the STO 100% of our troops when in non combat times are dedicated to the STO. This is one of these times. We should work together to make a stock pile of arms my nation has an absurd surplus of SKS so I will put forth 1.2 million SKS into the stockpile.
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Postby Democratic Union of Cydonia » Wed Nov 13, 2013 6:21 pm

Versail wrote:
Democratic Union of Cydonia wrote:
Is the ERA Kontakt-5? And by diesel do you mean a Gas turbine engine?

Yes to gas turbine.
And no to era kontakt-5 this is something I cooked in my spare time.

Gas Turbine tanks(t-80 for an example) are very weak in urban combat. Every tank is yes, but the T-80s for example were lost numerous times in Cechnya during the battle for Grozny. I would instead use an engine based on the T-72 or T-90 engine or even a western one. Thats the only critisism I got for it.

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Postby Democratic Union of Cydonia » Wed Nov 13, 2013 6:23 pm

The-United-Armed-Workers wrote:Sorry that im late but I agree with the standardized round size idea too. Our troops are your troops we fight for the STO 100% of our troops when in non combat times are dedicated to the STO. This is one of these times. We should work together to make a stock pile of arms my nation has an absurd surplus of SKS so I will put forth 1.2 million SKS into the stockpile.

The SKS is pretty outdated for today's standards but we can send many of them to our comrades in arms in revolutions when we need to. I have old Cydonian AKMs stored away for that purpose. I guess they could be included in that stock pile. I estimate about 300,000 or so are left after most were either sold off or used as parts for newer AKs.
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Postby The-United-Armed-Workers » Thu Nov 14, 2013 12:35 pm

Use as many for what ever purpose needed brother it is our main manufactured arm. Simple yet effective, during our last revolution we got a surplus of Type 56 SKS from The PR Of China, our manufacturers copied the design and tweaked it a small bit chroming the barrel and making sure every rifle has a firing pin spring then latter armed every eligible citizen at age 18 with one (hence the name PRUAW).We also have a huge surplus of Mosin's but we doubt you would want those. Our nation is rich in sodium so we will put 500 lbs of Sodium to create IED's (More like DIY Grenades than those used by Islamist forces).
Stand up, all victims of oppression
For the tyrants fear your might
Don't cling so hard to your possessions
For you have nothing, if you have no rights
Let racist ignorance be ended
For respect makes the empires fall
Freedom is merely privilege extended
Unless enjoyed by one and all


So come brothers and sisters
For the struggle carries on
The Internationale
Unites the world in song
So comrades come rally
For this is the time and place
The international ideal
Unites the human race

Under fascism you are starved of freedom.
Under libertarian ideals you are free to starve.
We must stand united Syndicalised.
LONG LIVE THE PROLETARIAT !

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Postby Versail » Thu Nov 14, 2013 1:13 pm

The-United-Armed-Workers wrote:Use as many for what ever purpose needed brother it is our main manufactured arm. Simple yet effective, during our last revolution we got a surplus of Type 56 SKS from The PR Of China, our manufacturers copied the design and tweaked it a small bit chroming the barrel and making sure every rifle has a firing pin spring then latter armed every eligible citizen at age 18 with one (hence the name PRUAW).We also have a huge surplus of Mosin's but we doubt you would want those. Our nation is rich in sodium so we will put 500 lbs of Sodium to create IED's (More like DIY Grenades than those used by Islamist forces).

how much for the mosin.
What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, Whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or in the holy name of liberty or democracy?~ Gandhi.
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Postby Democratic Union of Cydonia » Thu Nov 14, 2013 2:58 pm

Current STO Army contributions. You can Increase your donations at any time.
Kanatistan- 500,000
Cydonia(me)- 115,000
Kambana- 50,000
Eemeria- No actual number yet but is willing to give access to an Orion Airstrip
Versail- 800,000 from the army, 200,000 from the air force, and 100,000 from the navy as well as 50 million aureuss annually
Evanslavia- 3,650
Anollasia- Financial aid
Greater Kosovo- Financial aid
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Postby Versail » Thu Nov 14, 2013 4:43 pm

Democratic Union of Cydonia wrote:Current STO Army contributions. You can Increase your donations at any time.
Kanatistan- 500,000
Cydonia(me)- 115,000
Kambana- 50,000
Eemeria- No actual number yet but is willing to give access to an Orion Airstrip
Versail- 80,000 from the army, 20,000 from the air force, and 10,000 from the navy as well as 50 million aureuss annually
Evanslavia- 3,650
Anollasia- Financial aid
Greater Kosovo- Financial aid

hey cydonia add a zero to each of my donations. like instead of 80,000 its 800,000 please and thank you.
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Postby Librira » Thu Nov 14, 2013 8:48 pm

For the tank designs, I would say diseal is a must, we have seen how much fuel ariete and Abrams consume. I'd say the proven Russian diesels would be my engine choice.
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Postby Kanatistan » Fri Nov 15, 2013 10:47 am

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=270052
My nation is fighting fascist rebels in north Kanatistan, it is almost own but I hope that STO troops will help.
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Postby Democratic Union of Cydonia » Fri Nov 15, 2013 1:09 pm

Again a notice that the first RP with the RTO is up. I ask that most partcipate. It has not reached warfare yet and wont for awhile and we wont go to arms yet. I am just letting you know again because its going pretty slow(posting wise).
RP:
/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=270147


As for the tank engine, a diesel engine like the T-90s or T-72s would work wonders. The gas turbine just is a train wreck that costs lives in urban combat.
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Postby Kanatistan » Mon Nov 18, 2013 5:56 pm

My nation is being invaded! I cannot wait for help! Go to the last link I posted!
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Postby Kanatistan » Fri Nov 29, 2013 3:08 am

Lets discuss different socialism and communisms. My country supports an Islamic socialism called Abdulism( named after General Muhammad Abdul, our elected dictator.) Some things we support are:

Islam( with a few small changes)
Distribution of wealth
Environmentalism
Education of all youth
Democratic elections for some offices like prime minister, Vice President and president
Militarization
Culture( with rules)
Equality
Chemical weapons
Nuclear weapons
Conscription in part
Constitution of Kanatistan
Bill of rights of Kanatistan
Freedom of speech( the press is mainly controlled by gov.) in part( fascism and racism outlawed)
Freedom of religion for masses
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