Forest RPing Brainstorming/Discussion Hub [OOC, Forest-Only]

[Mount Seymour]

Spitballing, but (in contrast to more social democrats) are there some countries who are anarchists/mostly dissolved the state? Or are they predominantly non-RPers?

Caracasus? Communal Ecotopia? Possibly Darklands, though I don't really know.

And the 'agrarians' are largely not in RP right now, but could possibly ally with the anarchists.

[Caracasus]

Unfortunately, we don't have Unhuman Reserves, and I don't think there are many other nations interested who'd consider themselves 'eco-extremists'. Although I agree that in general the region is divided that way, the RPing group is a bit different.

So here's my proposal for what could be the division:

Eco-Friendly/Nordic Model (UAFS)	Not Especially Eco-Related/Militaristic?	Neutral
Mount Seymour Montmorencia Tishanda Communal Ecotopia Dest Oritio	Vesquire Darklands Chan Island	Zwangzug Calenmor

Caracasus, I'm not really sure where you'd go; the same for Potira, I don't know enough about you.

Frieden-und Freudenland, I'd certainly categorise you under the 'Eco-friendly Nordic Model', but given the historic "cooperative tension" between you and Mount Seymour such as in the Kolaxa Scandal, I think it would be best to preserve that and have you instead be a major leader of the third-party OFIN, playing to whoever's interests you think best.

I don't want to impose anything on anyone-- do you think this type of division would work, and if so, do you agree with where I've placed you in the organisations?

It's an odd one I'll grant you. Caracasus is broadly anarco-socialist... hmm...

I currently have a pretty massive RP going on with diplomacy (and lots of nasty stuff) that I'm in the process of salvaging from folks who think that war is more fun. Hmm.

I'd put Caracasus in unaligned/neutral. It's not a nordic style social democracy - but it's not ultra authoritarian either (quite the opposite).

Prompts for RP's. Just some ideas - brainstorming...

Diplomatic

A defector from (nation A) has applied for asylum in their old rival, (Nation B). The defector claims to have information relating to something terrible, but does not release any other information. In transit, the defector simply... vanishes. Nation A denies all involvement.

Nation A and nation B (and even nation C) were originally one country. After a long and brutal war, a three state plan was imposed on the nations by other powers in Forest. The problem? The treaty that laid out the territories is up for renewal - and none of the nations agree on anything!

Nation A has begun to produce some scientific equipment or another that looks suspiciously like that produced in Nation B.


Military tension

A short and bloody border conflict between two nations threatens to drag all of Forest into a war. Both sides have a legitimate claim to the disputed territory. Neither side appears willing to negotiate.

A small nation in Forest has undergone a brutal coup. The new dictator has set about exiling and executing political opponents and has their eyes set on their relatively undefended neighbours. The big problem? That small nation previously recieved military support from a larger nation - including possible WMD's.


Other

A strange plague has affected a small island off the coast of (nation). After about a week, it passes - everyone makes a recovery. Scientists and news quickly lose interest until several months later when those infected initially start exhibiting some unusual symptoms....

The final frontier... A joint Forest Space station serves as a perfect launch place for a first real colonization attempt! Problem is that there are several non-state groups that will do anything to sabotage the attempt....

[Darklands]

I guess Darklands is the odd one out in all this. I joined Forest more for my OOC personal views that any IC ecological direction that Darklands was heading.

To sum us up Darklands is a nation of devil worshiping half daemons, women have little to no rights and are freely traded. Prostitution is enforced, our government is a dictatorship or whatever our great leader says it is. The slave trade is booming and forms the core of our workforce.

If you read any of the factbooks which I am in the process of updating and transferring over then they are very fantasy heavy. Forest is listed as multi species but if not the same for this group then I am happy to rp as human devil worshipers. Of course the magical side of things will be eliminated in anything that does not allow it. Happy to go either way.

Our environment is a work in progress. Keeping my authoritarianism high and improving weather or ecological beauty do not seem to be very compatible on NS stats, at least the way I have been doing it.Consider us a beautiful but inhospitable work in progress.

In terms of alliances, I cant imagine us having many allies in a mostly socially liberal region but we will see. As for committing to organizations that that would be unquestionably opposed by our people and leaders unless times were absolutely desperate. I could see temporary and fleeting alliances when needed but never of trust or respect etc.

On a side topic I have posted my first factbook about Darklander religion. Others about the Darklands itself (once i get a spot on the map), its people and cultures are on the way. This started as an original concept but unknowingly ended up as something inspired by DnDs tieflings. I will just go with it and put my spin on there. Their religion and females roles are horrific, their practices unwelcome in most of the modern world. If anyone wants to have a read through and share your thoughts or how you envision relations developing between our various faiths or nations then please drop me a PM, no not post here. Would love to hear your thoughts. https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=710690

[Mount Seymour]

Unfortunately, we don't have Unhuman Reserves, and I don't think there are many other nations interested who'd consider themselves 'eco-extremists'. Although I agree that in general the region is divided that way, the RPing group is a bit different.

So here's my proposal for what could be the division:

Eco-Friendly/Nordic Model (UAFS)	Not Especially Eco-Related/Militaristic?	Neutral
Mount Seymour Montmorencia Tishanda Communal Ecotopia Dest Oritio	Vesquire Darklands Chan Island	Zwangzug Calenmor

Caracasus, I'm not really sure where you'd go; the same for Potira, I don't know enough about you.

Frieden-und Freudenland, I'd certainly categorise you under the 'Eco-friendly Nordic Model', but given the historic "cooperative tension" between you and Mount Seymour such as in the Kolaxa Scandal, I think it would be best to preserve that and have you instead be a major leader of the third-party OFIN, playing to whoever's interests you think best.

I don't want to impose anything on anyone-- do you think this type of division would work, and if so, do you agree with where I've placed you in the organisations?

It's an odd one I'll grant you. Caracasus is broadly anarco-socialist... hmm...

I currently have a pretty massive RP going on with diplomacy (and lots of nasty stuff) that I'm in the process of salvaging from folks who think that war is more fun. Hmm.

I'd put Caracasus in unaligned/neutral. It's not a nordic style social democracy - but it's not ultra authoritarian either (quite the opposite).

Prompts for RP's. Just some ideas - brainstorming...

Diplomatic

A defector from (nation A) has applied for asylum in their old rival, (Nation B). The defector claims to have information relating to something terrible, but does not release any other information. In transit, the defector simply... vanishes. Nation A denies all involvement.

Nation A and nation B (and even nation C) were originally one country. After a long and brutal war, a three state plan was imposed on the nations by other powers in Forest. The problem? The treaty that laid out the territories is up for renewal - and none of the nations agree on anything!

Nation A has begun to produce some scientific equipment or another that looks suspiciously like that produced in Nation B.


Military tension

A short and bloody border conflict between two nations threatens to drag all of Forest into a war. Both sides have a legitimate claim to the disputed territory. Neither side appears willing to negotiate.

A small nation in Forest has undergone a brutal coup. The new dictator has set about exiling and executing political opponents and has their eyes set on their relatively undefended neighbours. The big problem? That small nation previously recieved military support from a larger nation - including possible WMD's.


Other

A strange plague has affected a small island off the coast of (nation). After about a week, it passes - everyone makes a recovery. Scientists and news quickly lose interest until several months later when those infected initially start exhibiting some unusual symptoms....

The final frontier... A joint Forest Space station serves as a perfect launch place for a first real colonization attempt! Problem is that there are several non-state groups that will do anything to sabotage the attempt....

I've put you in 'neutral'. Thanks for all the great ideas! I'm sure they will get used...

I guess Darklands is the odd one out in all this. I joined Forest more for my OOC personal views that any IC ecological direction that Darklands was heading.

To sum us up Darklands is a nation of devil worshiping half daemons, women have little to no rights and are freely traded. Prostitution is enforced, our government is a dictatorship or whatever our great leader says it is. The slave trade is booming and forms the core of our workforce.

If you read any of the factbooks which I am in the process of updating and transferring over then they are very fantasy heavy. Forest is listed as multi species but if not the same for this group then I am happy to rp as human devil worshipers. Of course the magical side of things will be eliminated in anything that does not allow it. Happy to go either way.

Our environment is a work in progress. Keeping my authoritarianism high and improving weather or ecological beauty do not seem to be very compatible on NS stats, at least the way I have been doing it.Consider us a beautiful but inhospitable work in progress.

In terms of alliances, I cant imagine us having many allies in a mostly socially liberal region but we will see. As for committing to organizations that that would be unquestionably opposed by our people and leaders unless times were absolutely desperate. I could see temporary and fleeting alliances when needed but never of trust or respect etc.

On a side topic I have posted my first factbook about Darklander religion. Others about the Darklands itself (once i get a spot on the map), its people and cultures are on the way. This started as an original concept but unknowingly ended up as something inspired by DnDs tieflings. I will just go with it and put my spin on there. Their religion and females roles are horrific, their practices unwelcome in most of the modern world. If anyone wants to have a read through and share your thoughts or how you envision relations developing between our various faiths or nations then please drop me a PM, no not post here. Would love to hear your thoughts. https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=710690

That's fine, you can RP as whatever you want. I'll put you in 'unaligned/neutral' too.

And the factbook looks great! I can't say Mount Seymour supports your practices.... but maybe there could be some RP about, say, women are being kidnapped from Mount Seymour, and the blame is put on Darklands, who defends it as 'their traditional practice'?

[Pohjoinen]

I suppose one must be on the regional map to participate in regional RPs?

[Mount Seymour]

I suppose one must be on the map to participate in regional RPs?

No, many nations who are RPing are not on yet, like Tishanda, Darklands, or Vesquire. Don't worry, as long as you're active on the RMB or in the forums, you'll get added to the map as soon as the next update comes around.

[Caracasus]

Good. I hope some of the suggestions work...

As an aside, my RP is still open. Having forest folk join would be interesting... there's lots of potential threads including a deadly plague, intrigue and spying, a semi-civil war, a floating pirate anarchistic utopia in the making and many other intriguing things...

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=370407

[Unhuman Reserves]

sounds fun, but now i can't decide if i join the militarists or the norse...

[Caracasus]

One thought I have had regarding this... and it's probably been touched on previously. Basically how people view achieving ecologically sound govts.

One divide I can see isn't just the nordic model and authoritarian - it's between those who embrace technology and scientific advancement as a means for developing ecologically sound, balanced states and those who seek a return to nature as the path to true ecological balance.

The former would see the sacrifice of medicines, houses that aren't made of mud etc. as too terrible to contemplate. The latter would see "technologically enhanced ecology" as a gross act of anthrocentrism as it still places man at the center and in control of nature.

Just a thought for a specific ideological division.

[Mount Seymour]

One thought I have had regarding this... and it's probably been touched on previously. Basically how people view achieving ecologically sound govts.

One divide I can see isn't just the nordic model and authoritarian - it's between those who embrace technology and scientific advancement as a means for developing ecologically sound, balanced states and those who seek a return to nature as the path to true ecological balance.

The former would see the sacrifice of medicines, houses that aren't made of mud etc. as too terrible to contemplate. The latter would see "technologically enhanced ecology" as a gross act of anthrocentrism as it still places man at the center and in control of nature.

Just a thought for a specific ideological division.

And then I'd be stuck in the middle...

[Mount Seymour]

sounds fun, but now i can't decide if i join the militarists or the norse...

I'm going to suggest the militarists, just because we don't have so many right now and you're a Father Knows Best State.

[Mount Seymour]

I've updated the list of who's doing RPing… tell me if you're interested but still not on it.

[Clann Macthomais]

VERY interested, but not assigned in a group yet. Brand new to the region, but been RPing since 2011 on NS. LOVE character based RPs, and NOT very militaristic. Eco-friendly agricultural rural clan-based society here. And we like our Whisky :-)

[Mount Seymour]

VERY interested, but not assigned in a group yet. Brand new to the region, but been RPing since 2011 on NS. LOVE character based RPs, and NOT very militaristic. Eco-friendly agricultural rural clan-based society here. And we like our Whisky :-)

Since you've been RPing for a while, maybe you can help us as this is really only my second time RPing

You can choose what group you want to be in, or maybe even found a new primitive-peaceful style group.

Hope you have fun!

[Refugees Republic of Deusregio]

One thought I have had regarding this... and it's probably been touched on previously. Basically how people view achieving ecologically sound govts.

One divide I can see isn't just the nordic model and authoritarian - it's between those who embrace technology and scientific advancement as a means for developing ecologically sound, balanced states and those who seek a return to nature as the path to true ecological balance.

The former would see the sacrifice of medicines, houses that aren't made of mud etc. as too terrible to contemplate. The latter would see "technologically enhanced ecology" as a gross act of anthrocentrism as it still places man at the center and in control of nature.

Just a thought for a specific ideological division.

If we do this RP, I would totally join the ones that doesn't use technology because in my country technology is totally banned (we are in the 5% of Primitiveness)

[Clann Macthomais]

VERY interested, but not assigned in a group yet. Brand new to the region, but been RPing since 2011 on NS. LOVE character based RPs, and NOT very militaristic. Eco-friendly agricultural rural clan-based society here. And we like our Whisky :-)

Since you've been RPing for a while, maybe you can help us as this is really only my second time RPing

You can choose what group you want to be in, or maybe even found a new primitive-peaceful style group.

Hope you have fun!

So here's an idea that has worked before - and any nation with any personality can easily participate; it's heavily *character* based.

An island suddenly arises from the sea, and obviously, everyone is interested in this natural phenomenon. Every nation can send a small investigation team: students/college classes, anthropologists, entrepreneurs, botanists, ornithologists, geologists, even those who see it as a potential military outpost. The groups interact and have to deal with competing - or cooperating - claims. As gamemaster, I'll throw in stuff that will keep it interesting...an occasional mystery, concerning mutation, danger event, etc...while you all try an unravel the mystery of this island. This gives everyone the chance to display their own particular interests and personalities. If that is of interest to you, i will be happy to get the post going using a NS gameplay thread, limited to Forest. Just give me a "go ahead!," and I'll put the first post up this weekend.

(I've also been the gamemaster for Tavern scenes, wars, etc, but this seems the best 'scenario' for this region.)

[Mount Seymour]

Since you've been RPing for a while, maybe you can help us as this is really only my second time RPing

You can choose what group you want to be in, or maybe even found a new primitive-peaceful style group.

Hope you have fun!

So here's an idea that has worked before - and any nation with any personality can easily participate; it's heavily *character* based.

An island suddenly arises from the sea, and obviously, everyone is interested in this natural phenomenon. Every nation can send a small investigation team: students/college classes, anthropologists, entrepreneurs, botanists, ornithologists, geologists, even those who see it as a potential military outpost. The groups interact and have to deal with competing - or cooperating - claims. As gamemaster, I'll throw in stuff that will keep it interesting...an occasional mystery, concerning mutation, danger event, etc...while you all try an unravel the mystery of this island. This gives everyone the chance to display their own particular interests and personalities. If that is of interest to you, i will be happy to get the post going using a NS gameplay thread, limited to Forest. Just give me a "go ahead!," and I'll put the first post up this weekend.

(I've also been the gamemaster for Tavern scenes, wars, etc, but this seems the best 'scenario' for this region.)

Great idea! I'd be fine with such a roleplay. My only question is why do we need a 'gamemaster', couldn't we just let people throw their own twists in and see how it turns out?

[Caracasus]

So here's an idea that has worked before - and any nation with any personality can easily participate; it's heavily *character* based.

An island suddenly arises from the sea, and obviously, everyone is interested in this natural phenomenon. Every nation can send a small investigation team: students/college classes, anthropologists, entrepreneurs, botanists, ornithologists, geologists, even those who see it as a potential military outpost. The groups interact and have to deal with competing - or cooperating - claims. As gamemaster, I'll throw in stuff that will keep it interesting...an occasional mystery, concerning mutation, danger event, etc...while you all try an unravel the mystery of this island. This gives everyone the chance to display their own particular interests and personalities. If that is of interest to you, i will be happy to get the post going using a NS gameplay thread, limited to Forest. Just give me a "go ahead!," and I'll put the first post up this weekend.

(I've also been the gamemaster for Tavern scenes, wars, etc, but this seems the best 'scenario' for this region.)

Great idea! I'd be fine with such a roleplay. My only question is why do we need a 'gamemaster', couldn't we just let people throw their own twists in and see how it turns out?

It's sometimes good to have an OP (gamemaster) as they can sort of sculpt the story, responding and posting new challenges etc. to characters as it goes.

[Clann Macthomais]

Great idea! I'd be fine with such a roleplay. My only question is why do we need a 'gamemaster', couldn't we just let people throw their own twists in and see how it turns out?

Of course, all players can (and should do that). But with most RPs, the person who posts first is the GM (or Dungeon Master, for those who have D&D'd) for two reasons:

1) It means that if things slow down, there is someone responsible for regular posts to move them along; and

2) Sometimes some RPers get a little out of character or misread something so that you have one player saying its a blizzard while another is tanning themselves on the beach, or referring to a character who has died....and its just good to have one person quietly able to tap on them on the shoulder .

It's not a control issue...its a facilitation issue.

[Clann Macthomais]

Would it make sense to wait until the Zombie Apocalypse is over? I don have a sense yet as to whether this Region or its members get heavily involved in that...

[Mount Seymour]

Yes, I think we get pretty involved, so it might be best to wait.

[Nakad]

Even though the concept of this nation is a little silly, I would certainly be interested in roleplaying within Forest. Nakad would certainly be interested in joining the Organisation of Forestian Island Nations.

[Monpiterre]

Even though the concept of this nation is a little silly, I would certainly be interested in roleplaying within Forest. Nakad would certainly be interested in joining the Organisation of Forestian Island Nations.

Great! Come join us here:

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=392607

We're in the middle of our first summit.

[Nakad]

Even though the concept of this nation is a little silly, I would certainly be interested in roleplaying within Forest. Nakad would certainly be interested in joining the Organisation of Forestian Island Nations.

Great! Come join us here:

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=392607

We're in the middle of our first summit.

Awesome, I have made my post in participation.

[Caracasus]

Would it make sense to wait until the Zombie Apocalypse is over? I don have a sense yet as to whether this Region or its members get heavily involved in that...

Well... the zombie apocalypse is over....