The Union of Socialist Nations (Open)

by **Foraknia** » Mon Dec 03, 2012 9:53 pm

Ambassador Benjafield moved to stand near King Vladimir, "We stand with our comrades against Sassinia. The vote is against them. They must leave or this Union will fall apart. A house divided amongst itself cannot stand."

by **CoolLand** » Tue Dec 04, 2012 12:02 am

George stood up and said, "Alright. I shall not stand on these personal attacks! I have not attacked any representative personally! Additionally, we all must remember that The Zionist Soviet Empire still is geocoding the ponies as we speak! Yet, Lunestia, you wish to be allies with them? This shall only stop due to my nation's donation of land in exchange for their very lives! Yet I am against "pony kind"! This is also preposterous! I shall hold a neutral position on Sassinia ejection or membership in The USN. If they provide evidence of their change, then my nation shall stand against their ejection. If they do not, my nation shall be for their ejection. I still stand for condemning the nation of Lunsetia because of their continued imperialism of entire regions, unless if they halt this practice.", said George.

by **The Legion of Kane** » Tue Dec 04, 2012 6:34 am

CoolLand wrote:George stood up and said, "Alright. I shall not stand on these personal attacks! I have not attacked any representative personally! Additionally, we all must remember that The Zionist Soviet Empire still is geocoding the ponies as we speak! Yet, Lunestia, you wish to be allies with them? This shall only stop due to my nation's donation of land in exchange for their very lives! Yet I am against "pony kind"! This is also preposterous! I shall hold a neutral position on Sassinia ejection or membership in The USN. If they provide evidence of their change, then my nation shall stand against their ejection. If they do not, my nation shall be for their ejection. I still stand for condemning the nation of Lunsetia because of their continued imperialism of entire regions, unless if they halt this practice.", said George.

"Condemnations do nothing. George, you are a fool. A stupid fool. Sassinia will not change. And Sassinia will still be ejected. You seem to be blackmailing us in a way. 'Do this or we will condemn or eject you'. We have no imperialism. May I remind you of what Sassinia has done again, you idiot?" said Fancypants. He twitched.

by **Cevalo Nacio** » Tue Dec 04, 2012 6:47 am

CoolLand wrote:George stood up and said, "Alright. I shall not stand on these personal attacks! I have not attacked any representative personally! Additionally, we all must remember that The Zionist Soviet Empire still is geocoding the ponies as we speak! Yet, Lunestia, you wish to be allies with them? This shall only stop due to my nation's donation of land in exchange for their very lives! Yet I am against "pony kind"! This is also preposterous! I shall hold a neutral position on Sassinia ejection or membership in The USN. If they provide evidence of their change, then my nation shall stand against their ejection. If they do not, my nation shall be for their ejection. I still stand for condemning the nation of Lunsetia because of their continued imperialism of entire regions, unless if they halt this practice.", said George.

" Remane stood up and offered this "It is doubtless that the Zionist position towards we ponies is less than enlighened, however he has shown genuine progres and at the nations core, it is a workers state. With all due respect Cooland, while we know that your nation is with us thanks to your concessions to the zionists, your defending a nazi nation is a bit contradictory to the tenants of socialism." He simply continued on "Keeping Sassinia here has created the biggest pissing match in this organizations history and the quickest way out is simply to eject Sassinia and get on with our lives, this is not about idealogy it is about efficiency and practicality."

by **CoolLand** » Tue Dec 04, 2012 7:15 am

The Legion of Kane wrote:
CoolLand wrote:George stood up and said, "Alright. I shall not stand on these personal attacks! I have not attacked any representative personally! Additionally, we all must remember that The Zionist Soviet Empire still is geocoding the ponies as we speak! Yet, Lunestia, you wish to be allies with them? This shall only stop due to my nation's donation of land in exchange for their very lives! Yet I am against "pony kind"! This is also preposterous! I shall hold a neutral position on Sassinia ejection or membership in The USN. If they provide evidence of their change, then my nation shall stand against their ejection. If they do not, my nation shall be for their ejection. I still stand for condemning the nation of Lunsetia because of their continued imperialism of entire regions, unless if they halt this practice.", said George.

"Condemnations do nothing. George, you are a fool. A stupid fool. Sassinia will not change. And Sassinia will still be ejected. You seem to be blackmailing us in a way. 'Do this or we will condemn or eject you'. We have no imperialism. May I remind you of what Sassinia has done again, you idiot?" said Fancypants. He twitched.

George's face turned red with anger, his eyes looked of fury, as he stood up, and boomed, "I never have called you anything in the personal sense! Yet you shall not provide evidence for your nation's change, and shall not respond to my criticisms of your nation's imperialism! You are an unprofessional dimwit! You are not fit for diplomatic relations, you bloody wanker! I use my nation's executive power to eject Lunestia from the Unio at once! I also agree with the other representatives that Sassinia needs to be elected. Guards! Escort Princess Luna, and Representative Fancypants to their rooms! Or, shall I say airport!", said George, as he boomed, and a hoard of guards came and took away Princess Luna and Glenn Fancypants, and they were soon escorted to the airport.

OOC: Legion of Kane, you have been ejected from the USN. Good day.

by **CoolLand** » Tue Dec 04, 2012 7:25 am

Cevalo Nacio wrote:
CoolLand wrote:George stood up and said, "Alright. I shall not stand on these personal attacks! I have not attacked any representative personally! Additionally, we all must remember that The Zionist Soviet Empire still is geocoding the ponies as we speak! Yet, Lunestia, you wish to be allies with them? This shall only stop due to my nation's donation of land in exchange for their very lives! Yet I am against "pony kind"! This is also preposterous! I shall hold a neutral position on Sassinia ejection or membership in The USN. If they provide evidence of their change, then my nation shall stand against their ejection. If they do not, my nation shall be for their ejection. I still stand for condemning the nation of Lunsetia because of their continued imperialism of entire regions, unless if they halt this practice.", said George.

" RedMane stood up and offered this shit, "It is doubtless that the Zionist position towards we ponies is less than enlighened, however he has shown genuine progress and at the nations core, it is a workers state. With all due respect Cooland, while we know that your nation is with us thanks to your concessions to the zionists, your defending a nazi nation is a bit contradictory to the tenants of socialism." He simply continued on "Keeping Sassinia here has created the biggest pissing match in this organizations history and the quickest way out is simply to eject Sassinia and get on with our lives, this is not about idealogy it is about efficiency and practicality."

George stood up, and said, "I agree. Sassinia shall be ejected immediately, I am sorry Representative of Sassinia, but when you can you must leave this building. If you wish to rejoin, you must submit to The USN Tribunal, and submit evidence of your nation's changes. For now, you have been ejected, though you have not been blacklisted from rejoining yet. Though you have said my nation's name incorrectly, as it is known as CoolBoyGcp, I must agree. However, Sassinia is not a Nazi nation, simply a mislead one. Lunestia shall be blacklisted permanently due to their continued imperialism, capitalism, oppresion of their people, and their attacks on me personally, my nation, and worst of all The USN, and socialism in general. Now, I believe that this meeting has been a fruitful, though turbulent one; and I hope that the next meeting is even more so. Additionally, the next meeting shall be in one week. Do any nations have anything to say before this meeting ends in ten minutes?", asked George, as he sat down.

by **The Diasporia** » Tue Dec 04, 2012 9:04 am

CoolLand wrote:
Cevalo Nacio wrote:
" RedMane stood up and offered this shit, "It is doubtless that the Zionist position towards we ponies is less than enlighened, however he has shown genuine progress and at the nations core, it is a workers state. With all due respect Cooland, while we know that your nation is with us thanks to your concessions to the zionists, your defending a nazi nation is a bit contradictory to the tenants of socialism." He simply continued on "Keeping Sassinia here has created the biggest pissing match in this organizations history and the quickest way out is simply to eject Sassinia and get on with our lives, this is not about idealogy it is about efficiency and practicality."

George stood up, and said, "I agree. Sassinia shall be ejected immediately, I am sorry Representative of Sassinia, but when you can you must leave this building. If you wish to rejoin, you must submit to The USN Tribunal, and submit evidence of your nation's changes. For now, you have been ejected, though you have not been blacklisted from rejoining yet. Though you have said my nation's name incorrectly, as it is known as CoolBoyGcp, I must agree. However, Sassinia is not a Nazi nation, simply a mislead one. Lunestia shall be blacklisted permanently due to their continued imperialism, capitalism, oppresion of their people, and their attacks on me personally, my nation, and worst of all The USN, and socialism in general. Now, I believe that this meeting has been a fruitful, though turbulent one; and I hope that the next meeting is even more so. Additionally, the next meeting shall be in one week. Do any nations have anything to say before this meeting ends in ten minutes?", asked George, as he sat down.

"Yes," spoke up Anastasia, "First; that the rest of the proposials be put up to an actual vote. Second, that the Zionist Soviet Empire be ejected for failing to adhere to the standards stated in the charter."

"For evidence of this; the charter says that all member nations must allow for voting, and considering this and the other parts of the charter, I would also wager that these votes must also carry actual political weight. The Zionist Soviet Empire has it's political liberties currently rated a 2 on a scale of one to one hundred, with the median resting somewhere between 9 and 30. Their political freedoms are described as being 'outlawed.' If they do have meaningful voting, it can be nothing short of miraculous, and as David Hume once pointed out, there is no such thing as miracles."

"The charter also requires that all nations have a socialist, communist, social democrat, or other similar ideology. The Zionist Soviet Empire has been described as 'a bunch of Iron-Fisted Consumerists.' Can someone please tell me how a nation that is described as 'a bunch of Iron-Fisted Consumerists,' and 'refers to individual citizens as "human resources."' has and acts on a socialist, communist, social democrat, or other similar ideology? I seriously doubt that it could ever be the case."

"Unless these points can be shown to, for some bizzare reason, NOT be in conflict with the charter, then I can see no reason for them to stay as a member nation."

by **Inquilabstan** » Tue Dec 04, 2012 9:38 am

Nation Name: The United Socialist States of Inquilabstan
National Ideology: Marxism-Leninism
National Representative to The Union of Socialist Nations: Minister of Foreign Relations Sunil Basu
Anything Special Requests: N/A
Sorry for the late application.

by **The Legion of Kane** » Tue Dec 04, 2012 1:27 pm

CoolLand wrote:
The Legion of Kane wrote:
"Condemnations do nothing. George, you are a fool. A stupid fool. Sassinia will not change. And Sassinia will still be ejected. You seem to be blackmailing us in a way. 'Do this or we will condemn or eject you'. We have no imperialism. May I remind you of what Sassinia has done again, you idiot?" said Fancypants. He twitched.

George's face turned red with anger, his eyes looked of fury, as he stood up, and boomed, "I never have called you anything in the personal sense! Yet you shall not provide evidence for your nation's change, and shall not respond to my criticisms of your nation's imperialism! You are an unprofessional dimwit! You are not fit for diplomatic relations, you bloody wanker! I use my nation's executive power to eject Lunestia from the Unio at once! I also agree with the other representatives that Sassinia needs to be elected. Guards! Escort Princess Luna, and Representative Fancypants to their rooms! Or, shall I say airport!", said George, as he boomed, and a hoard of guards came and took away Princess Luna and Glenn Fancypants, and they were soon escorted to the airport.

OOC: Legion of Kane, you have been ejected from the USN. Good day.

Luna teleported herself and her whole group to Trotmanington, but before she left with every single person and her belongings, Glen said this. "Screw you, mate, you never reacted to King when he called you a fool. FUCK YOU. Your lackeys are just retarded human followers. You can go screw yourself, idiot. Good day." A shield suddenly appeared and confused the guards, and then the guards and every Lunestian teleported away, burning and scorching the floor in the shield.

OoC : Yeah, you never reacted to King when he called you a stupid fool, but you react to me? And I can use magic now.

by **Sassinia** » Tue Dec 04, 2012 2:05 pm

"Well then, I guess this alliance isn't democratic at all, it's founder wielding power at innocent nations when one of it's own members don't even have basic elections and are ruled by a KING! A DAMN KING! Someday, we will lash back at you and make you pay, pay I tell you, pay! Your alliance of democracy haters are not fit to exist in a modern world! We shall lash back at you someday, someday, when your nation and the Zionist Empire's will fall and we shall bring in a new world of TRUE socialism...not the "socialism" the hypocritical Zionist Empire speaks of...that is
"socialism" where the king tramples upon the rights of others, where no person is equal, no freedom of speech, no freedom of ANYTHING! Why, I would rather call it something else...something called fascism, where the government controls everything and infringes on the rights of people, where people are arrested for simply speaking their mind, where the imperialist king declares war on small, innocent nations just to annex them! Tell me, why the hell would you call this socialism? Why? It just doesn't make sense. Meanwhile, you kick a nation of true socialism, Socialist Democracy, out! Do you have any respect for socialism, anyway? I guess you don't. You and Vlad sicken me. You shall pay for your mockery of socialism, you shall pay! We, the true workers of Sassinia, shall go on to change the world...a world where no king, fascist,
or imperialist exists! Where all people are equal, where there are elections held every 8 or 4 years, where the government actually helps people, not tramples on their rights....You have broken socialism, with your petty fascist beliefs, and have plagued the world. You should be ashamed of yourself, trampling upon the rights of people. I will end this by saying: WORKERS OF THE WORLD, UNITE, AND DEFEAT THE IMPERIALIST MENACE!"

When Daris had finished his long speech, and walked out and slammed the door behind him, while outside his guards graffitied the walls by painting a Sassinian flag on them, while writing the words below them,

"Workers of the World, UNITE!"

After that, they were lifted off to Sassinia by chopper.

by **The United Soviet Socialist Republic** » Tue Dec 04, 2012 4:51 pm

"George I continue to insist upon your foolishness. You kick out not just the un-Socialist Fascists of Sassina, but also the actually Socialist nation of the Legion of Kane. Not only will this act alienate the ponies in the USN, but also many of the true followers of Socialism. My nation is Monarchist and has been known to attack democracy on many occasions, but at least we practice Socialism not Fascism. Your uneven acts of kicking out anyone, Socialist or not, is making me question the true purpose behind the USN. It seems to me as if this Union is ripe for political turmoil and dissent. I may be friends with you George, but that will not mean I give you political favor." Vladimir says to everyone in the room.

by **Rommissia** » Tue Dec 04, 2012 5:15 pm

Full Nation Name:The United Socialist States of Rommissia
National Ideology:Socialism, some Communism. We strive to create a nation where everyone is equal.
Description of National Economy:Brand new since we are a new nation. Our economy will, hopefully, focus more on public services for the people without causing harm to itself.
National Representative to The Union of Socialist Nations:Miguel Gueverra
Anything Special Requests:Advice on running a socialist/communist nation. (OOC: I had a puppet nation to test it out...and things went terribly. So I've decided to start anew and ask for advice)

Rommissia would like to ask one question of its fellow socialist states...Have we come at a bad time? There seems to much turmoil in the USN...

by **Legokiller** » Tue Dec 04, 2012 6:22 pm

The United Pony States President Littlepip trotted into the conference room silently. Being late to an international meeting wasn't her, plan and heading someone threads from a rather unfriendly actor that "used" to conduct slavery wasn't heartwarming. The mare eyes roll not amuse of the Zion king, which strangely his nation attack democratic countries and frankly looks like a bad apple than this "Sassinia" he mention. It's questionable why the coolandians allowed that man in.

"Ahem, greeting everybody in the Union of Socialist Nations. I am President Littlepip of the United Pony States of Legokiller, and I'm here on behalf to represent the UPS. Forgive me on my not arriving earlier on the last discussion about this 'Sassiania' nation, but what's this alienate of ponies in USN that the Zion man announced?" Littlepip introduce herself and asked once she taken her seat.

by **The United Soviet Socialist Republic** » Tue Dec 04, 2012 6:24 pm

Legokiller wrote:The United Pony States President Littlepip trotted into the conference room silently. Being late to an international meeting wasn't her, plan and heading someone threads from a rather unfriendly actor that "used" to conduct slavery wasn't heartwarming. The mare eyes roll not amuse of the Zion king, which strangely his nation attack democratic countries and frankly looks like a bad apple than this "Sassinia" he mention. It's questionable why the coolandians allowed that man in.

"Ahem, greeting everybody in the Union of Socialist Nations. I am President Littlepip of the United Pony States of Legokiller, and I'm here on behalf to represent the UPS. Forgive me on my not arriving earlier on the last discussion about this 'Sassiania' nation, but what's this alienate of ponies in USN that the Zion man announced?" Littlepip introduce herself and asked once she taken her seat.

"Luna of the Legion of Kane tried to support true Socialism by throwing attacks at Sassina and George kicked them out for it." Vladimir replied.

by **Enjuku** » Tue Dec 04, 2012 6:25 pm

CoolLand wrote:George's face turned red with anger, his eyes looked of fury, as he stood up, and boomed, "I never have called you anything in the personal sense! Yet you shall not provide evidence for your nation's change, and shall not respond to my criticisms of your nation's imperialism! You are an unprofessional dimwit! You are not fit for diplomatic relations, you bloody wanker! I use my nation's executive power to eject Lunestia from the Unio at once! I also agree with the other representatives that Sassinia needs to be elected. Guards! Escort Princess Luna, and Representative Fancypants to their rooms! Or, shall I say airport!", said George, as he boomed, and a hoard of guards came and took away Princess Luna and Glenn Fancypants, and they were soon escorted to the airport.

OOC: Legion of Kane, you have been ejected from the USN. Good day.

Blinking a few times in disbelief, Mitchell flicked on his microphone with a forlorn expression. "...Am I to understand that you have ejected a nation from this Union not only without democratic consent, but based solely on your own fit of rage?" He brushed his blond bangs out of his eyes and sighed. "I am truely sorry, but I must admit that this Union does not represent the ideals of Socialism and Democracy that I expected it to. I will try, one last time, to express an attempt to change this Union. Despite the infighting and sectarianism of the representatives here today, I would like to propose that a strict and formal 'yes or no' vote process be enacted when making any decision for the Union. I disagree whole heartedly with any exercise of 'executive power', as the purpose of an executive branch is to balance the legislature, not dictate it."

Mitchell flickered his eyes between Emperor King and George a few times before he continued speaking. "On a personal note, I have no knowledge of many of the histories of the nations who are represented in this Union. However, that does not mean I approve of the backyard talks and discussions being made. Contempt and friendship should be ignored, and nations should be evaluated equally by the Union as a whole. I would like to remind everyone that Enjuku has the largest population of any nation in this Union. However, Enjuku refuses to influence others with this fact. That is because, as a Union based on democracy, equality, and fraternity, we should consult one another with equal measure and opinion. To sum things up, I do not approve of any sort of authoritarianism or manipulation being made by key members of this Union."

by **Legokiller** » Tue Dec 04, 2012 6:52 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Legokiller wrote:"Luna of the Legion of Kane tried to support true Socialism by throwing attacks at Sassina and George kicked them out for it." Vladimir replied.

"Legion of kane... Kanie... What in the world is this Legion of Kane? Also that nation is the cause of alienation of ponies in the USN?" Littlepip said with confusion.

by **The United Soviet Socialist Republic** » Tue Dec 04, 2012 6:53 pm

Legokiller wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:

"Legion of kane... Kanie... What in the world is this Legion of Kane? Also that nation is the cause of alienation of ponies in the USN?" Littlepip said with confusion.

"Legion of Kane being what they are called to most people. Their official name is Lunestian, something like that. Them being kicked out for objecting to George will likely alienate the ponies."

by **Tryienne** » Thu Dec 06, 2012 6:18 pm

A white gruff pegasus in military uniform walked in the room, saying "What is this deal with Sassinia, anyways? I demand to know!" he said while slamming his hoof on the table that was standing there. "And telling that Lunestia has to leave, is a deceleration of War against Tryienne! So, who is the piece of foal that stood against them?" he screamed.

OOC: I know this is kinda rude, without an arrival RP, but due that a friend of my is going to be ejected, I want to jump in the fire for him.

by **Marquette of Pacific** » Thu Dec 06, 2012 6:32 pm

Full Nation Name: Constitutional Monarchy of Marquette
National Ideology: Government is 45% Socialist and about 55% Capitalist, we are Socialist in that we still have a moderately powerful monarch and he has lots of power and influence in government
Description of National Economy: Much investing in the private sector, technological innovations is the biggest form of income to our country, about 55% capitalist
National Representative to The Union of Socialist Nations: Olivier LeBlanc
Anything Special Requests: Not that I can think of...

by **Eaischpnaeieacgkque Bhcieaghpodsttditf** » Thu Dec 06, 2012 7:44 pm

Full Nation Name:The United Socialist States of Eaischpnaeieacgkque Bhcieaghpodsttditf.
National Ideology: A combination of all, but leads heavily on socialism.
Description of National Economy: private sector outlawed, but gov. uses it to make more cash for the people.
National Representative to The Union of Socialist Nations: Elmo Leone III.
Anything Special Requests: none right now.
sorry for late application, but if I would have discovered this sooner, I would have joined then.

by **Vuvask-hab** » Sun Dec 09, 2012 4:12 am

"George, what was that for?" Bäilhj said angrily down the microphone, "I thought this Union was supposed to be a democratic alliance of all socialist and communist nations under its wing. But no, it has become a mockery of the process and a melting pot of power abuse, petty rivalries and representatives having a gun to their head! I'm inexperienced at diplomacy, that's not too hard for me to admit; do you want to eject Vūvask-hab also? Värhj, do you really want to? Why not eject everyone else why you're at it, and have a bloody fantastic party of one?" He calmed down a bit before continuing.

"Look, George, I know you want this to be a functional organisation without these disputes, but ejecting a nation because they disagree with you is kind of the thing most of us want to avoid. Things like this will probably give other nations the impression that we're a bunch of tyrannical kääsosk who wield their power like they do their guns." He looked nervously in Emperor King's direction.

"We can do better than this." He turned off his microphone.

"Well, I tried," Bäilhj muttered under his breath as he sat expecting the worst.

OOC: värhj is an expletive. kääsosk literally means "pieces of cheese". Bäilhj is implying that we are condemned to do nothing but grow mould.

by **Novograd IV** » Sun Dec 09, 2012 6:00 am

Marquette of Pacific wrote:Full Nation Name: Constitutional Monarchy of Marquette
National Ideology: Government is 45% Socialist and about 55% Capitalist, we are Socialist in that we still have a moderately powerful monarch and he has lots of power and influence in government
Description of National Economy: Much investing in the private sector, technological innovations is the biggest form of income to our country, about 55% capitalist
National Representative to The Union of Socialist Nations: Olivier LeBlanc
Anything Special Requests: Not that I can think of...

... No... Just... no.

by **Marquette of Pacific** » Sun Dec 09, 2012 6:41 am

Novograd IV wrote:
Marquette of Pacific wrote:Full Nation Name: Constitutional Monarchy of Marquette
National Ideology: Government is 45% Socialist and about 55% Capitalist, we are Socialist in that we still have a moderately powerful monarch and he has lots of power and influence in government
Description of National Economy: Much investing in the private sector, technological innovations is the biggest form of income to our country, about 55% capitalist
National Representative to The Union of Socialist Nations: Olivier LeBlanc
Anything Special Requests: Not that I can think of...

... No... Just... no.

Fine. I didn't want to be grouped with you Communists anyways.

by **Novograd IV** » Sun Dec 09, 2012 9:27 am

Marquette of Pacific wrote:
Novograd IV wrote:
... No... Just... no.

Fine. I didn't want to be grouped with you Communists anyways.

Based on your application I don't think you know what 'Communist' and 'Socialist' are.

by **Marquette of Pacific** » Sun Dec 09, 2012 10:18 am

Novograd IV wrote:
Marquette of Pacific wrote:
Fine. I didn't want to be grouped with you Communists anyways.

Based on your application I don't think you know what 'Communist' and 'Socialist' are.

I do know what it means. I am a Socialist nation (technically) but I'm not fully Socialist.

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