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Postby Haruhi Japan » Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:23 pm

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Haruhi Japan wrote:Coincidence maybe? :-/

No, most of my rhetoric is inspired from material. Going back through previous dispatches and posts I make they derive heavily from other material. There's no reason for me not to be honest about that, as anyone who pays close attention already would know.

Now does that mean I condone the actions of Evan James MacCarthy and endorse the songs of Paddy Tarleton? Of course not. Is that quote just as legitimate as the "Hail the Confederation" under it? Of course. Do you follow the "table theory"? That's for my listeners to decide.

I guess you have a point there.
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Postby Code 002 » Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:24 pm

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This is literally a lyric from a Neo-Nazi, pro racial separation, song. I won't do it the service of linking it, but it's from a white supremacist album by Paddy Tarleton (SPLC link) & Byron de la Vandal (google him yourself).

plz.

Ya' know, the original song is from Mary Poppins. :lol2:


Yeah; the tune is "Chim Chim Cher-ee," but Chim Chim Cher-ee was a song about being happy, not about spreading hate. That makes it worse, not better.

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Postby Nouveau Quebecois » Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:26 pm

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Nouveau Quebecois wrote:Ya' know, the original song is from Mary Poppins. :lol2:


Yeah; the tune is "Chim Chim Cher-ee," but Chim Chim Cher-ee was a song about being happy, not about spreading hate. That makes it worse, not better.

Say what you want about the message but Tarleton's voice is just as soft on my ears as Pete Seeger's. Whatta'can'I'say?
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Postby Code 002 » Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:28 pm

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Code 002 wrote:
Yeah; the tune is "Chim Chim Cher-ee," but Chim Chim Cher-ee was a song about being happy, not about spreading hate. That makes it worse, not better.

Say what you want about the message but Tarleton's voice is just as soft on my ears as Pete Seeger's. Whatta'can'I'say?


Sure, I'll say what I want - a soft voice explicitly and openly preaching hate should be rougher on the ears than a drill bit wrapped in sandpaper, to a good person.
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Postby Haruhi Japan » Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:29 pm

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Code 002 wrote:
Yeah; the tune is "Chim Chim Cher-ee," but Chim Chim Cher-ee was a song about being happy, not about spreading hate. That makes it worse, not better.

Say what you want about the message but Tarleton's voice is just as soft on my ears as Pete Seeger's. Whatta'can'I'say?

Just because he has a good voice doesn't mean he is a good person, as people like Michael Jackson would prove.
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Postby Nouveau Quebecois » Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:30 pm

Code 002 wrote:
Nouveau Quebecois wrote:Say what you want about the message but Tarleton's voice is just as soft on my ears as Pete Seeger's. Whatta'can'I'say?


Sure, I'll say what I want - a soft voice preaching hate should be rougher on the ears than a drill bit wrapped in sandpaper, to a good person.

Alright, I'm not a good person to you. I'm sorry it has to be that way.

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Postby Haruhi Japan » Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:31 pm

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Code 002 wrote:
Sure, I'll say what I want - a soft voice preaching hate should be rougher on the ears than a drill bit wrapped in sandpaper, to a good person.

Alright, I'm not a good person to you. I'm sorry it has to be that way.

I don't hate you, I just don't necessarily agree with your political views, that's all.
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Postby Proctopeo » Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:31 pm

Code 002 wrote:
Nouveau Quebecois wrote:Say what you want about the message but Tarleton's voice is just as soft on my ears as Pete Seeger's. Whatta'can'I'say?


Sure, I'll say what I want - a soft voice preaching hate should be rougher on the ears than a drill bit wrapped in sandpaper, to a good person.

That's not how that works though

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Nouveau Quebecois wrote:Say what you want about the message but Tarleton's voice is just as soft on my ears as Pete Seeger's. Whatta'can'I'say?

Just because he has a good voice doesn't mean he is a good person, as people like Michael Jackson would prove.

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Postby Nouveau Quebecois » Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:33 pm

Haruhi Japan wrote:
Nouveau Quebecois wrote:Alright, I'm not a good person to you. I'm sorry it has to be that way.

I don't hate you, I just don't necessarily agree with your political views, that's all.

I can live with that ;)
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Postby Haruhi Japan » Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:33 pm

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Code 002 wrote:
Sure, I'll say what I want - a soft voice preaching hate should be rougher on the ears than a drill bit wrapped in sandpaper, to a good person.

That's not how that works though

Haruhi Japan wrote:Just because he has a good voice doesn't mean he is a good person, as people like Michael Jackson would prove.

:eyebrow:

Go watch the documentary "Leaving Neverland" and you will see what I'm talking about. After that, I can never look at the guy the same way as I used too which sucks because his music really was good.
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Postby Proctopeo » Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:40 pm

Haruhi Japan wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:That's not how that works though


:eyebrow:

Go watch the documentary "Leaving Neverland" and you will see what I'm talking about. After that, I can never look at the guy the same way as I used too which sucks because his music really was good.

I've heard negative things about that documentary. I won't go into detail, but the Wikipedia article on it covers some of them.
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Postby Haruhi Japan » Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:49 pm

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Haruhi Japan wrote:Go watch the documentary "Leaving Neverland" and you will see what I'm talking about. After that, I can never look at the guy the same way as I used too which sucks because his music really was good.

I've heard negative things about that documentary. I won't go into detail, but the Wikipedia article on it covers some of them.

Seriously, you are going to take decisive information from Wikipedia!?
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Postby Proctopeo » Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:50 pm

Haruhi Japan wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:I've heard negative things about that documentary. I won't go into detail, but the Wikipedia article on it covers some of them.

Seriously, you are going to take decisive information from Wikipedia!?

I did. Wikipedia is a sufficiently reliable source for surface-level information, and I'm tired of pretending it's not.
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Postby Nouveau Quebecois » Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:51 pm

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Haruhi Japan wrote:Seriously, you are going to take decisive information from Wikipedia!?

I did. Wikipedia is a sufficiently reliable source for surface-level information, and I'm tired of pretending it's not.

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Postby Haruhi Japan » Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:15 pm

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Haruhi Japan wrote:Seriously, you are going to take decisive information from Wikipedia!?

I did. Wikipedia is a sufficiently reliable source for surface-level information, and I'm tired of pretending it's not.

Still doesn't change the fact that the dude was a f*cking pedophile!
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Postby Reploid Productions » Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:16 pm

Okay, peeps, getting way off topic here. Let's stop that.
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Postby Haruhi Japan » Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:20 pm

Reploid Productions wrote:Okay, peeps, getting way off topic here. Let's stop that.

You're right, sorry about that. But tbh, shouldn't this thread be locked since Jocospor has already lost, rendering this campaign thread useless?
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Postby East Blepia » Sat Apr 04, 2020 12:04 am

Haruhi Japan wrote:
Reploid Productions wrote:Okay, peeps, getting way off topic here. Let's stop that.

You're right, sorry about that. But tbh, shouldn't this thread be locked since Jocospor has already lost, rendering this campaign thread useless?


It's a mourning thread now.
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Postby Haruhi Japan » Sat Apr 04, 2020 12:34 am

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Haruhi Japan wrote:You're right, sorry about that. But tbh, shouldn't this thread be locked since Jocospor has already lost, rendering this campaign thread useless?


It's a mourning thread now.

Okay I'll mourn... now I'm over it lol.
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Postby Otagal » Sat Apr 04, 2020 1:45 am

Haruhi Japan wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:I did. Wikipedia is a sufficiently reliable source for surface-level information, and I'm tired of pretending it's not.

Still doesn't change the fact that the dude was a f*cking pedophile!


Firstly, shouldn't this Thread Get Locked? Secondly, the documentary provides no proof whatsoever instead the apparent victims just narrate certain encounters, it brings nothing new to the table. But in the end, i Fully respect your opinion however, in my belief, after going through this all at least a bit, the media plays a big role in this all. Anyways have a Good Day :)

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Postby Haruhi Japan » Sat Apr 04, 2020 2:07 am

Otagal wrote:
Haruhi Japan wrote:Still doesn't change the fact that the dude was a f*cking pedophile!


Firstly, shouldn't this Thread Get Locked? Secondly, the documentary provides no proof whatsoever instead the apparent victims just narrate certain encounters, it brings nothing new to the table. But in the end, i Fully respect your opinion however, in my belief, after going through this all at least a bit, the media plays a big role in this all. Anyways have a Good Day :)

Proof, what proof are you going to find in something like that? A tape of the whole crime, yeah I don't think Michael Jackson was that stupid!
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Postby The Gilded Star » Sat Apr 04, 2020 2:16 am

Reppy asked for the MJ topic to stop due to being off-topic; be warned that if she returns, it will be with a large hammer to hit people with.

Jocospor's campaign thread will probably remain open until the end of the WA Election, when the mods shutter the entire forum all in one go.

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Postby Haruhi Japan » Sat Apr 04, 2020 2:19 am

The Gilded Star wrote:Reppy asked for the MJ topic to stop due to being off-topic; be warned that if she returns, it will be with a large hammer to hit people with.

Jocospor's campaign thread will probably remain open until the end of the WA Election, when the mods shutter the entire forum all in one go.

Okay, you're right, I'm stopping this discussion from now on.
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Postby Otagal » Sat Apr 04, 2020 2:35 am

Haruhi Japan wrote:
The Gilded Star wrote:Reppy asked for the MJ topic to stop due to being off-topic; be warned that if she returns, it will be with a large hammer to hit people with.

Jocospor's campaign thread will probably remain open until the end of the WA Election, when the mods shutter the entire forum all in one go.

Okay, you're right, I'm stopping this discussion from now on.


You're Right... we need to stop but just saying that that's the thing, there's not a single piece of evidence despite Raids, what we overlook is that these are just accusations that have not been proven to date, plus the man is dead so you only get to hear the apparent victims point of view. Lastly, now I will shut my mouth completely on this on the forum cause this conversation does not belong here and we'll probably be called At.

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Postby Raider Bele Levy Epies » Sat Apr 04, 2020 12:16 pm

Haruhi Japan wrote:
Reploid Productions wrote:Okay, peeps, getting way off topic here. Let's stop that.

You're right, sorry about that. But tbh, shouldn't this thread be locked since Jocospor has already lost, rendering this campaign thread useless?

I think it would be useless work for the moderators to lock the other candidates' threads when round 3 ends and the top 5's ones a day later.

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