No More Bullsh*t: Jocospor for WA Secretary-General

[South Reinkalistan]

What's disgusting is that they've gone and stated that, then a few hours later released their only campaign telegram

Sir, I believe you and your ilk did something similar.

[ShrewLlamaLand]

What's disgusting is that they've gone and stated that, then a few hours later released their only campaign telegram

Sir, I believe you and your ilk did something similar.

If you think that's the main point behind my post you need to read it again.

[South Reinkalistan]

Sir, I believe you and your ilk did something similar.

If you think that's the main point behind my post you need to read it again.

But my eyes are tired, and they don't need to read any more useless shit than I need to. I took something you said, and rightly called you a hypocrite.

[Kita-Hinode]

Out of curiosity, what exactly do you represent? Like what part of the forum? Any particular point besides some paper-thin stuff? Just asking.

[Blood Wine]

What is? at the time he wrote that he hadn't, maybe work on your reading comprehension

Can you point me to the part where I said this wasn't true at the time? Hmmm.

My point has absolutely nothing to do with telegram spam, frankly I don't care about telegram spam. What's disgusting is that they've gone and stated that, then a few hours later released their only campaign telegram asking not for votes, but to rig the election against Jocospor and myself.

Frankly I don't care what your political affiliations are, but if you support this kind of corruption I don't see how you can so consistently come here on the forums and lecture me about authoritarianism and "fascism" when it's clear you don't support democracy yourself.

The worst part is that yes, this is a game, but this exact scenario in real life is what's happened to Bernie Sanders twice now. He's not part of the political establishment, so they've screwed him out of the nomination that he's deserved twice now. See the parity here?

Can you point out where he said he wouldn't? Hmmm.

[Lord Dominator]

The worst part is that yes, this is a game, but this exact scenario in real life is what's happened to Bernie Sanders twice now. He's not part of the political establishment, so they've screwed him out of the nomination that he's deserved twice now. See the parity here?

That fairly fringe (Sanders) and really fringe (Jocospor) candidates lose elections because a supermajority (Sanders) and overwhelming majority (Jocospor) don't support them?

[Candensia]

Jocospor claims to be the enemy of the so-called WA Elite, yet in their own propaganda completely admit that they are a member of it... That is hypocrisy at its most pure.

I’ll pull the relevant text,

"So, that makes Jocospor part of the WA Elite, right?"

Yes. It absolutely does. We're part of what can be termed the WA Elite. The difference, then? Well, as they say, if you can't beat 'em, join 'em - until you can beat 'em. We're the elite that stands against the elite...

Jocospor is the WA Elite, bottom line. I think your campaign should rethink the “No more elite.” slogan.

[Czechoslovakia and Zakarpatia]

The worst part is that yes, this is a game, but this exact scenario in real life is what's happened to Bernie Sanders twice now. He's not part of the political establishment, so they've screwed him out of the nomination that he's deserved twice now. See the parity here?

That fairly fringe (Sanders) and really fringe (Jocospor) candidates lose elections because a supermajority (Sanders) and overwhelming majority (Jocospor) don't support them?

Imagine unironically thinking that Bernie is "fringe", or that Jocospor is in any way comparable to him.

[Castelia]

That fairly fringe (Sanders) and really fringe (Jocospor) candidates lose elections because a supermajority (Sanders) and overwhelming majority (Jocospor) don't support them?

Nah, it has to be a conspiracy! After all, they SURELY have the support of the people and the only reason they're losing is because a higher power (the media for Sanders, the "WA Elite" for Jocospor) is interfering, right? Surely it has nothing to do with the fact that they actually don't have any support outside of a very vocal minority, right?

[Lord Dominator]

That fairly fringe (Sanders) and really fringe (Jocospor) candidates lose elections because a supermajority (Sanders) and overwhelming majority (Jocospor) don't support them?

Imagine unironically thinking that Bernie is "fringe", or that Jocospor is in any way comparable to him.

Sanders is fringe by virtue of being on the very leftward edge of the spectrum in the Democratic party (more so, since he's only a member during presidential primaries). The comparison was not one I started, but nor is there any particular reason not to illustrate a point with the comparison being made.

[Jocospor]

THINGS WE'VE LEARNT IN THE LAST HOUR:

TOP 5 are ALL conspiring to keep #JOCO2020 out of the GENERAL. [b]PURE VINDICATION.

AURALIA is WITH THEM! His campaign is a lie. HE IS THE ELITE![/b]

They're doing this because THEY'RE SCARED. #JOCO2020 stands on its OWN 2 FEET! We don't rely on the ELITE. They're SCARED OF THE VOICES OF MEMBER NATIONS!!

Jocospor claims to be the enemy of the so-called WA Elite, yet in their own propaganda completely admit that they are a member of it... That is hypocrisy at its most pure.

I’ll pull the relevant text,

"So, that makes Jocospor part of the WA Elite, right?"

Yes. It absolutely does. We're part of what can be termed the WA Elite. The difference, then? Well, as they say, if you can't beat 'em, join 'em - until you can beat 'em. We're the elite that stands against the elite...

Jocospor is the WA Elite, bottom line. I think your campaign should rethink the “No more elite.” slogan.

Read the whole paragraph, then come back to me. Anything else would be a lie. I AM HONEST.

Out of curiosity, what exactly do you represent? Like what part of the forum? Any particular point besides some paper-thin stuff? Just asking.

I stand against the WA Elite, who with their blatant election rigging have a) proven they exist and b) demonstrate just what it is we need to remove from this game.

I stand for equality of opportunity within the World Assembly. We don't have that right now. THIS VOTE PROVES IT.

I do not play identity politics. I'm not going to say "I support [x]!" and demean that group just as a political ploy. Hmmm....

That fairly fringe (Sanders) and really fringe (Jocospor) candidates lose elections because a supermajority (Sanders) and overwhelming majority (Jocospor) don't support them?

Nah, it has to be a conspiracy! After all, they SURELY have the support of the people and the only reason they're losing is because a higher power (the media for Sanders, the "WA Elite" for Jocospor) is interfering, right? Surely it has nothing to do with the fact that they actually don't have any support outside of a very vocal minority, right?

We do have the support of the people though. Where do you think our voting base is coming from? THE MARGINALISED VOICES WHO ARE SICK AND TIRED OF THE WA ELITE.

[Lord Dominator]

We do have the support of the people though. Where do you think our voting base is coming from? THE MARGINALISED VOICES WHO ARE SICK AND TIRED OF THE WA ELITE.

You can't even manage 10% of the votes, hardly the support of the people.

[Auralia]

Dude, the fact that I won't drop out and support your candidacy doesn't make me part of the "elite".

[Tinhampton]

Also, what LD and Auralia say above.

Crossposted to demonstrate TACLC's relative lack of good things to say about Jocospor:

We're sending our very first official campaign TG out now! I know it's, like, the millionth one you've got, but we hope you enjoy it!! =^_^= And we promise we won't be spammy!

https://i.imgur.com/EteAXha.png

Let me complete this telegram for you:

Jocospor is HONEST

Jocospor has INTEGRITY

After what's been pulled today, there is no other candidate in the top seven can honest to god look at themselves in a mirror and say the same.

Honest? The anti-elitist sentiment may really be there, but I'm certainly not believing him on NO TAG:WA DAY 3.
Integrity? Time will tell if he keeps his promises; he's certainly committed to the platform, especially in terms of selfie-authorship

Scepticism all around from my part

[The Mongol Plain]

We do have the support of the people though. Where do you think our voting base is coming from? THE MARGINALISED VOICES WHO ARE SICK AND TIRED OF THE WA ELITE.

8.7% is hardly "the support of the people"

[Reploid Productions]

For the love of everyone's eyes Joco, can you please curtail your abuse of the Size and Color tags? The easier on the eyes your content is to read, the more likely people are to actually read it.

[Blood Wine]

Joco right now

[Valentine Z]

I can't trust you if you keep missing out your [b] tags like that.

Lack of [b]'s, but a lot of bullshit.

[Lord Dominator]

Dude, the fact that I won't drop out and support your candidacy doesn't make me part of the "elite".

Auralia is do Elite, the most recent attempt at commending him was voted down, and there are not infrequent suggestions of voting against his stuff in retaliation for him not being in compliance with several GA resolutions. Truly a member of the elite

[Separatist Peoples]

The elite is scared of the people from whom they routinely ask for votes for WA resolutions. The propaganda machine here is routinely logically inconsistent.

[Kita-Hinode]

I stand against the WA Elite, who with their blatant election rigging have a) proven they exist and b) demonstrate just what it is we need to remove from this game.

I stand for equality of opportunity within the World Assembly. We don't have that right now. THIS VOTE PROVES IT.

I do not play identity politics. I'm not going to say "I support [x]!" and demean that group just as a political ploy. Hmmm....

Mate, you answered nothing that I asked you.

[Jocospor]

For the love of everyone's eyes Joco, can you please curtail your abuse of the Size and Color tags? The easier on the eyes your content is to read, the more likely people are to actually read it.

Sure.

THIS THREAD IS BEING DERAILED BY THE WA ELITE! LOOK AT THEIR NAMES!

LORD DOMINATOR. SEPARATIST PEOPLES. VALENTINE Z.

They're DESPERATE. They're trying to hide the TRUTH underneath all their RHETORIC.

THE WA ELITE IS HERE.

[The Gilded Star]

As someone who spends my time in the RP circles of this site, there is a shocking lack of sportsmanship (or indeed fun in general) from Jocospor's opponents. I wouldn't have endorsed had it not been for this

It's hard to pal around with a guy that shares a table with OOC fascists. Even if Jocospor and Shrew deny being fascists, say that it's just RP for them, and that they don't stand for these views in RL, real fascists that do embrace violent views champion these guys as their heroes, and that just makes them really unpalatable, roleplay or not.

Frankly I don't care what your political affiliations are, but if you support this kind of corruption I don't see how you can so consistently come here on the forums and lecture me about authoritarianism and "fascism" when it's clear you don't support democracy yourself.

Ranked voting is a part of democracy, though. Personally, I certainly have a sequence of preferred candidates beyond just one.

Where do you think our voting base is coming from?

Let's take a look:

Farkasfalka
Nazi Europa
United Fascist Workers Assocation
The New Iron Order
The Seventh Reich
The Interregional Axis
The Union of Greater Axis Powers
Fifth Empire

[Separatist Peoples]

For the love of everyone's eyes Joco, can you please curtail your abuse of the Size and Color tags? The easier on the eyes your content is to read, the more likely people are to actually read it.

Sure.

THIS THREAD IS BEING DERAILED BY THE WA ELITE! LOOK AT THEIR NAMES!

LORD DOMINATOR. SEPARATIST PEOPLES. VALENTINE Z.

They're DESPERATE. They're trying to hide the TRUTH underneath all their RHETORIC.

THE WA ELITE IS HERE.

How is talking about your campaign on the campaign thread derailing it?

[Blood Wine]

Joco right now


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Like seriously joco, look at this