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Which Catgirl is Bestgirl?

Poll ended at Sat Apr 04, 2020 1:03 am

Lieutenant M'Ress
8
12%
Vanilla
17
25%
Akashi
7
10%
Kurumi Tokisaki
5
7%
Akemi Homura
7
10%
Raphtalia
12
18%
Ryuko Matoi
11
16%
 
Total votes : 67

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Postby ShrewLlamaLand » Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:40 am

The Cosmic Mainframe wrote:
Jocospor wrote:To deliberately keep me out of the Top 5. It's a low tactic, a low, low tactic. Grossly unjust.

THE WA ELITE DOES EXIST, RIGHT NOW. YOU'RE ALL BEING PLAYED.

If you support self-commendation/condemnation, which is an equally low tactic, you should be absolutely fine with strategic voting.

I'm sorry, I really don't understand your point here.

Self-commendation isn't abusing the way the voting system works, it still has to pass through quorum, and reach the required number of votes - a majority - to pass.

What's being pulled here is blatant rigging of the election in order to allow one candidate, who would otherwise not have the campaign popularity or support base, to make it into the General Election at the expense of our campaign.

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Jocospor wrote:To deliberately keep me out of the Top 5. It's a low tactic, a low, low tactic. Grossly unjust.

THE WA ELITE DOES EXIST, RIGHT NOW. YOU'RE ALL BEING PLAYED.

Why would they deliberately keep you out of the top five? It seems to me that if there was going to be voter fraud, it would focus on taking down a large important candidate.

Take a look through our thread. It's blatantly obvious election fraud: viewtopic.php?f=37&t=482714&start=200
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Postby Galactic Powers » Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:40 am

Jocospor wrote:
Kathol Rift wrote:Why would they deliberately keep you out of the top five? It seems to me that if there was going to be voter fraud, it would focus on taking down a large important candidate.

They're trying to keep me out because they all HATE me. They HATE that I have gotten this far completely on my own merit. They HATE it.

Once NationStates sees this, there will be OUTRAGE.

Why should we vote the fascists again?
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Postby Bruxxa » Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:41 am

Galactic Powers wrote:
Jocospor wrote:They're trying to keep me out because they all HATE me. They HATE that I have gotten this far completely on my own merit. They HATE it.

Once NationStates sees this, there will be OUTRAGE.

Why should we vote the fascists again?

We shouldn't. Go catgirls!
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Postby Galactic Powers » Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:43 am

Bruxxa wrote:
Galactic Powers wrote:Why should we vote the fascists again?

We shouldn't. Go catgirls!

meow meow
But Joco this isn't even your thread get the heckin heck out of here and let us have catgirls in peace
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Postby The Cosmic Mainframe » Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:44 am

ShrewLlamaLand wrote:I'm sorry, I really don't understand your point here.

Self-commendation isn't abusing the way the voting system works, it still has to pass through quorum, and reach the required number of votes - a majority - to pass.

What's being pulled here is blatant rigging of the election in order to allow one candidate, who would otherwise not have the campaign popularity or support base, to make it into the General Election at the expense of our campaign.

The votes being cast for Val and Caelapes at the moment are legitimate votes. They are cast by legitimate voters for strategic reasons. The only thing the "elites" are doing is campaigning through legitimate channels.

Since when was voting for your second or third choice candidate to prevent the worst candidate from winning a form of fraud? This happens very often in real elections, especially but not exclusively ones using the type of voting system we see here.
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Postby Chavandriclanderpleistan » Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:45 am

The Cosmic Mainframe wrote:
Jocospor wrote:To deliberately keep me out of the Top 5. It's a low tactic, a low, low tactic. Grossly unjust.

THE WA ELITE DOES EXIST, RIGHT NOW. YOU'RE ALL BEING PLAYED.

If you support self-commendation/condemnation, or campaign spam as you just did, equally low tactics, you should be absolutely fine with strategic voting.

Strategic voting is present in all voting methods apart from positions determined by a single individual (as in a dictator or monarch being the lone decider in a governmental position). I guess the issue may lie in other candidates directly calling Joco out in an attempt to move their base to strategically vote where they wouldn't have otherwise?

Regardless, I haven't gotten a single campaign telegram for Catgirls urging me to do such a thing, or a single campaign for Catgirls at all. Still managing 2nd place in the 2nd and 3rd rounds!
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Postby Blood Wine » Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:46 am

Jocospor wrote:Once NationStates sees this, there will be OUTRAGE.


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Postby Stardust Crusdaers » Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:00 am

We're not trying to rig the election. We got votes because we share a common interest: anime.
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Postby Code 002 » Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:01 am

We're sending our very first official campaign TG out now! I know it's, like, the millionth one you've got, but we hope you enjoy it!! =^_^= And we promise we won't be spammy!

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Postby Bruxxa » Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:02 am

Stardust Crusdaers wrote:We're not trying to rig the election. We got votes because we share a common interest: anime.

Very true. uwu
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Postby Chavandriclanderpleistan » Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:03 am

Code 002 wrote:We're sending our very first official campaign TG out now! I know it's, like, the millionth one you've got, but we hope you enjoy it!! =^_^= And we promise we won't be spammy!

It was hilariously ironic! XD

Also, will Catgirls have a running mate? They are the only nation without one yet who's in the top 6.
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Postby ShrewLlamaLand » Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:04 am

Chavandriclanderpleistan wrote:
The Cosmic Mainframe wrote:If you support self-commendation/condemnation, or campaign spam as you just did, equally low tactics, you should be absolutely fine with strategic voting.

Strategic voting is present in all voting methods apart from positions determined by a single individual (as in a dictator or monarch being the lone decider in a governmental position). I guess the issue may lie in other candidates directly calling Joco out in an attempt to move their base to strategically vote where they wouldn't have otherwise?

Regardless, I haven't gotten a single campaign telegram for Catgirls urging me to do such a thing, or a single campaign for Catgirls at all. Still managing 2nd place in the 2nd and 3rd rounds!

You're correct, Catgirls hasn't personally urged anyone to vote "strategically" against us. But they're clearly involved in this stitch up by their own voting actions, and the telegrams sent out by other campaigns involving them.

I hate doing this, but let's compare this to the real life US Election - which candidate do you think stands most strongly for transgender, and more broadly, LGBTQ+ people? Trump? Biden?

Yes, this is a game, but this exact scenario in real life is what's happened to Bernie Sanders. He's not part of the political establishment, so they've screwed him out of the nomination that he's deserved twice. We're being screwed because we're not a part of the WA Elite.

See the parity here?
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Postby ShrewLlamaLand » Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:09 am

Code 002 wrote:We're sending our very first official campaign TG out now! I know it's, like, the millionth one you've got, but we hope you enjoy it!! =^_^= And we promise we won't be spammy!

Image

Let me complete this telegram for you:

Jocospor is HONEST

Jocospor has INTEGRITY

After what's been pulled today, there is no other candidate in the top seven can honest to god look at themselves in a mirror and say the same.
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Postby Khoronzon » Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:09 am

I just wanna grill and look at catgirl images for God's sake

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Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:13 am

ShrewLlamaLand wrote:
Code 002 wrote:We're sending our very first official campaign TG out now! I know it's, like, the millionth one you've got, but we hope you enjoy it!! =^_^= And we promise we won't be spammy!

Image

Let me complete this telegram for you:

Jocospor is HONEST

Jocospor has INTEGRITY

After what's been pulled today, there is no other candidate in the top seven can honest to god look at themselves in a mirror and say the same.


Explaining the joke makes it less funny but just in case you didn't get it...

Good meme, Catgirls.

Go campaign in ur own thread now uWu
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Postby Lord Dominator » Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:16 am

ShrewLlamaLand wrote:
Code 002 wrote:We're sending our very first official campaign TG out now! I know it's, like, the millionth one you've got, but we hope you enjoy it!! =^_^= And we promise we won't be spammy!

Image

Let me complete this telegram for you:

Jocospor is HONEST

Jocospor has INTEGRITY

After what's been pulled today, there is no other candidate in the top seven can honest to god look at themselves in a mirror and say the same.

Yes, the candidate of honesty and integrity is one who makes a campaign pledge and breaks it within 24 hours. Makes sense.

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Postby Chavandriclanderpleistan » Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:17 am

ShrewLlamaLand wrote:
Chavandriclanderpleistan wrote:Strategic voting is present in all voting methods apart from positions determined by a single individual (as in a dictator or monarch being the lone decider in a governmental position). I guess the issue may lie in other candidates directly calling Joco out in an attempt to move their base to strategically vote where they wouldn't have otherwise?

Regardless, I haven't gotten a single campaign telegram for Catgirls urging me to do such a thing, or a single campaign for Catgirls at all. Still managing 2nd place in the 2nd and 3rd rounds!

You're correct, Catgirls hasn't personally urged anyone to vote "strategically" against us. But they're clearly involved in this stitch up by their own voting actions, and the telegrams sent out by other campaigns involving them.

I hate doing this, but let's compare this to the real life US Election - which candidate do you think stands most strongly for transgender, and more broadly, LGBTQ+ people? Trump? Biden?

Yes, this is a game, but this exact scenario in real life is what's happened to Bernie Sanders. He's not part of the political establishment, so they've screwed him out of the nomination that he's deserved twice. We're being screwed because we're not a part of the WA Elite.

See the parity here?

The person who deserves a nomination is the one who is voted in for the nomination. That is how democracy works. If you have qualms with how the vote is playing out, then the only thing you should be mad about is the voting method used.

Sanders has a political history: he is the senator of Vermont. Of course, someone from outside the "political establishment" could never win a nomination, and they could never become something like, say, the president of the US?
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Postby Bruxxa » Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:20 am

Chavandriclanderpleistan wrote:
ShrewLlamaLand wrote:You're correct, Catgirls hasn't personally urged anyone to vote "strategically" against us. But they're clearly involved in this stitch up by their own voting actions, and the telegrams sent out by other campaigns involving them.

I hate doing this, but let's compare this to the real life US Election - which candidate do you think stands most strongly for transgender, and more broadly, LGBTQ+ people? Trump? Biden?

Yes, this is a game, but this exact scenario in real life is what's happened to Bernie Sanders. He's not part of the political establishment, so they've screwed him out of the nomination that he's deserved twice. We're being screwed because we're not a part of the WA Elite.

See the parity here?

The person who deserves a nomination is the one who is voted in for the nomination. That is how democracy works. If you have qualms with how the vote is playing out, then the only thing you should be mad about is the voting method used.

Sanders has a political history: he is the senator of Vermont. Of course, someone from outside the "political establishment" could never win a nomination, and they could never become something like, say, the president of the US?

I mean, Trump was a businessman, not a politician
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Postby Lord Dominator » Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:24 am

Bruxxa wrote:
Chavandriclanderpleistan wrote:The person who deserves a nomination is the one who is voted in for the nomination. That is how democracy works. If you have qualms with how the vote is playing out, then the only thing you should be mad about is the voting method used.

Sanders has a political history: he is the senator of Vermont. Of course, someone from outside the "political establishment" could never win a nomination, and they could never become something like, say, the president of the US?

I mean, Trump was a businessman, not a politician

I'm fine with comparing Jocospor's campaign to Trump's - it's managed to be even more incompetent, seeing as it can't even win anything.

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Postby The Rich Port » Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:28 am

Can somebody explain to me why the heck this SecGen election has become so goddamn toxically competitive?

It's really gone too far if everyone is getting upset over a contest medal that carries no prize with it.

And that especially goes out to people being transphobic because some goddamn fictional trans catgirls might win SecGen.

I voted for the goddamn catgirls because Kuriko is going to win anyway and my support goddamn doesn't matter one way or another.

What the hell is wrong with you people? Calm the fuck down.
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Postby Kathol Rift » Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:31 am

The Rich Port wrote:Can somebody explain to me why the heck this SecGen election has become so goddamn toxically competitive?

It's really gone too far if everyone is getting upset over a contest medal that carries no prize with it.

And that especially goes out to people being transphobic because some goddamn fictional trans catgirls might win SecGen.

I voted for the goddamn catgirls because Kuriko is going to win anyway and my support goddamn doesn't matter one way or another.

What the hell is wrong with you people? Calm the fuck down.

I agree with the sentiment, but the language is taking it a little far.
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Postby Khoronzon » Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:42 am

The Rich Port wrote:Can somebody explain to me why the heck this SecGen election has become so goddamn toxically competitive?

It's really gone too far if everyone is getting upset over a contest medal that carries no prize with it.

And that especially goes out to people being transphobic because some goddamn fictional trans catgirls might win SecGen.

I voted for the goddamn catgirls because Kuriko is going to win anyway and my support goddamn doesn't matter one way or another.

What the hell is wrong with you people? Calm the fuck down.

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Postby Astravars » Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:47 am

The Rich Port wrote:
It's really gone too far if everyone is getting upset over a contest medal that carries no prize with it.



It probably has to do with the widespread TGs boasting WA elitism and change, resulting in many people forgetting about this very important fact. Also, competition, regardless of reward, tends to make people lose their character. Of course, most the candidates and voters have been pretty chill, but it only takes a few to generate toxicity.

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Postby Code 002 » Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:47 am

Khoronzon wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:Can somebody explain to me why the heck this SecGen election has become so goddamn toxically competitive?

It's really gone too far if everyone is getting upset over a contest medal that carries no prize with it.

And that especially goes out to people being transphobic because some goddamn fictional trans catgirls might win SecGen.

I voted for the goddamn catgirls because Kuriko is going to win anyway and my support goddamn doesn't matter one way or another.

What the hell is wrong with you people? Calm the fuck down.

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