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Postby Shokpos » Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:20 pm

Czechoslovakia and Zakarpatia wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:Valentine Z isn’t leftist, and currently, Kuriko is leading

She is left-of-centre though, and is also friends with Redternetia, a member of the NSLeft. Once the final round is upon us, that is when the cards will get really mixed up.

Left of center, not a whack ass communist, her demographic won't blindly shift left towards a communist candidate in the final round, they will vote for someone they agree with, and Caelapas and Valentines platforms are nowhere near the same
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LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Well...


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Postby South Reinkalistan » Fri Apr 03, 2020 5:51 am

Shokpos wrote:
Czechoslovakia and Zakarpatia wrote:She is left-of-centre though, and is also friends with Redternetia, a member of the NSLeft. Once the final round is upon us, that is when the cards will get really mixed up.

Left of center, not a whack ass communist, her demographic won't blindly shift left towards a communist candidate in the final round, they will vote for someone they agree with, and Caelapas and Valentines platforms are nowhere near the same

Can I just say that taking politics into account in this race probably isn't the best idea. People aren't going to vote for Val - in my opinion - because he's centre-left. The move to support LGBTQ+ rights here is admirable (and worth voting for), but I think it's best to vote for the candidate that makes you laugh (or smile!) the most. This was on April Fools, after all :P

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Postby Aureumterra » Fri Apr 03, 2020 5:53 am

Czechoslovakia and Zakarpatia wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:Valentine Z isn’t leftist, and currently, Kuriko is leading

She is left-of-centre though, and is also friends with Redternetia, a member of the NSLeft. Once the final round is upon us, that is when the cards will get really mixed up.

Valentien Z is a he

And he has repeatedly said he’s politically centrist, so I have no idea where you’re getting that from
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Postby Oneid » Fri Apr 03, 2020 5:54 am

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Greater Sacramento wrote:I'm sorry but why are LGBTQ rights at the center of this campaign,

The real question here is why not? Do we need a reason to promote the stuggle of LGBTQIA peoples? We should use every opportunity, no matter how frivolous, to advocate for an oppressed minority. Trans Rights!

Yes it is time for that.
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Postby Scottish Socialists » Fri Apr 03, 2020 5:57 am

Czechoslovakia and Zakarpatia wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:Valentine Z isn’t leftist, and currently, Kuriko is leading

She is left-of-centre though, and is also friends with Redternetia, a member of the NSLeft. Once the final round is upon us, that is when the cards will get really mixed up.

Valentine Z is a Valentine HE.
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Postby No State Here » Fri Apr 03, 2020 8:12 am

Aureumterra wrote:
Czechoslovakia and Zakarpatia wrote:She is left-of-centre though, and is also friends with Redternetia, a member of the NSLeft. Once the final round is upon us, that is when the cards will get really mixed up.

Valentien Z is a he

And he has repeatedly said he’s politically centrist, so I have no idea where you’re getting that from

I’ll take a centrist over another communist, hell, I’d even take Jocospor for that matter. Communism needs to be defeated
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Postby South Reinkalistan » Fri Apr 03, 2020 9:07 am

No State Here wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:Valentien Z is a he

And he has repeatedly said he’s politically centrist, so I have no idea where you’re getting that from

I’ll take a centrist over another communist, hell, I’d even take Jocospor for that matter. Communism needs to be defeated

Chill, it's a joke election. Save the McCarthyism for elsewhere.
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Postby No State Here » Fri Apr 03, 2020 9:19 am

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No State Here wrote:I’ll take a centrist over another communist, hell, I’d even take Jocospor for that matter. Communism needs to be defeated

Chill, it's a joke election. Save the McCarthyism for elsewhere.

While the position of SecGen is purely ceremonial, the election could well be considered a referendum on the state of the WA, where right now, anything right of center gets labelled as fascist and any resolutions condemning left wing raiders for legitimate reasons gets struck down by GCR superdelegates
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Postby South Reinkalistan » Fri Apr 03, 2020 9:22 am

No State Here wrote:
South Reinkalistan wrote:Chill, it's a joke election. Save the McCarthyism for elsewhere.

While the position of SecGen is purely ceremonial, the election could well be considered a referendum on the state of the WA, where right now, anything right of center gets labelled as fascist and any resolutions condemning left wing raiders for legitimate reasons gets struck down by GCR superdelegates

"Ceremonial" gives it too much credit. It's a meme position, clear and simple. Also, that - really - isn't the state of the WA. There are multiple quite conservative blocs within the WA, and I've yet to hear anyone call them fascist. But I'm not here to argue about that. Your refusal to do research and instead listen to what you want to hear to push your narrative is none of my concern.
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In the midst of a room-temperature cultural revolution that's lost its momentum, the Party carefully plans its next move.
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Postby Greater Sacramento » Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:42 am

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What struggle of LGBTQ people is there on Nation States that impacts a person?

For one example, the existence of fascists contesting for a spot in the general election. Max Barry allows this site to give a platform to out-and-out fascists as long as they aren't too clear about who their war-as-hygiene-y'know-like-ethnic-cleansing aesthetic is supposed to be about. Fascism's most-developed project, that of Nazi Germany, is known for its vicious treatment of the LGBTQ population. The books burned in the most famous book burnings—an event that is so well known—are far less popularly understood than the mere fact that books were burned. They were the books of the Institute for the Science of Sexuality (Institut für Sexualwissenschaft)—the most advanced research of that time especially on important matters like trans health.

The Secretary-General election is an April Fools gag. Fascism is not.


Literally the only candidate I know is fascist is in 6th place so even if he/ she makes the general election, will not win. This is all just a last minute tactic after you realize you won't get four more years no matter how much you say this election is a joke
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Postby Jocospor » Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:43 am

Greater Sacramento wrote:
Caelapes wrote:For one example, the existence of fascists contesting for a spot in the general election. Max Barry allows this site to give a platform to out-and-out fascists as long as they aren't too clear about who their war-as-hygiene-y'know-like-ethnic-cleansing aesthetic is supposed to be about. Fascism's most-developed project, that of Nazi Germany, is known for its vicious treatment of the LGBTQ population. The books burned in the most famous book burnings—an event that is so well known—are far less popularly understood than the mere fact that books were burned. They were the books of the Institute for the Science of Sexuality (Institut für Sexualwissenschaft)—the most advanced research of that time especially on important matters like trans health.

The Secretary-General election is an April Fools gag. Fascism is not.


Literally the only candidate I know is fascist is in 6th place so even if he/ she makes the general election, will not win. This is all just a last minute tactic after you realize you won't get four more years no matter how much you say this election is a joke

Revolting.

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Postby ShrewLlamaLand » Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:44 am

Caelapes wrote:I haven't sent a mass telegram.


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Disgusting.
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Postby Blood Wine » Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:51 am

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Caelapes wrote:I haven't sent a mass telegram.


Image

Disgusting.



What is? at the time he wrote that he hadn't, maybe work on your reading comprehension
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Postby ShrewLlamaLand » Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:00 am

Blood Wine wrote:
ShrewLlamaLand wrote:
-snip-

Disgusting.


What is? at the time he wrote that he hadn't, maybe work on your reading comprehension

Can you point me to the part where I said this wasn't true at the time? Hmmm.

My point has absolutely nothing to do with telegram spam, frankly I don't care about telegram spam. What's disgusting is that they've gone and stated that, then a few hours later released their only campaign telegram asking not for votes, but to rig the election against Jocospor and myself.

Frankly I don't care what your political affiliations are, but if you support this kind of corruption I don't see how you can so consistently come here on the forums and lecture me about authoritarianism and "fascism" when it's clear you don't support democracy yourself.

The worst part is that yes, this is a game, but this exact scenario in real life is what's happened to Bernie Sanders twice now. He's not part of the political establishment, so they've screwed him out of the nomination that he's deserved twice now. See the parity here?
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Postby Oneid » Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:03 am

Caelapes wrote:
Greater Sacramento wrote:
What struggle of LGBTQ people is there on Nation States that impacts a person?

For one example, the existence of fascists contesting for a spot in the general election. Max Barry allows this site to give a platform to out-and-out fascists as long as they aren't too clear about who their war-as-hygiene-y'know-like-ethnic-cleansing aesthetic is supposed to be about. Fascism's most-developed project, that of Nazi Germany, is known for its vicious treatment of the LGBTQ population. The books burned in the most famous book burnings—an event that is so well known—are far less popularly understood than the mere fact that books were burned. They were the books of the Institute for the Science of Sexuality (Institut für Sexualwissenschaft)—the most advanced research of that time especially on important matters like trans health.

The Secretary-General election is an April Fools gag. Fascism is not.

It is best to move away from the failed ideologies and systems of Fascism, Nazism and Communism. All three have been shown to be brothers and sisters by oppression, totalitarianism and massacres. He best chose someone neutral, because all ideologies are stupid.
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Postby Greater Sacramento » Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:05 am

Oneid wrote:
Caelapes wrote:For one example, the existence of fascists contesting for a spot in the general election. Max Barry allows this site to give a platform to out-and-out fascists as long as they aren't too clear about who their war-as-hygiene-y'know-like-ethnic-cleansing aesthetic is supposed to be about. Fascism's most-developed project, that of Nazi Germany, is known for its vicious treatment of the LGBTQ population. The books burned in the most famous book burnings—an event that is so well known—are far less popularly understood than the mere fact that books were burned. They were the books of the Institute for the Science of Sexuality (Institut für Sexualwissenschaft)—the most advanced research of that time especially on important matters like trans health.

The Secretary-General election is an April Fools gag. Fascism is not.

It is best to move away from the failed ideologies and systems of Fascism, Nazism and Communism. All three have been shown to be brothers and sisters by oppression, totalitarianism and massacres. He best chose someone neutral, because all ideologies are stupid.


Communism is just sugar coated fascism is what I like to say.
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Postby Caelapes » Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:09 am

fascism: we should exterminate LGBTQ people, disabled people, and other "undesirables" while simultaneously sacrificing old people to the dow jones

communists: actually we shouldn't, we should organize society to provide for dignity for all people

horseshoe-theory peddlers: i cannot tell these positions apart!!!
    
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Postby Jocospor » Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:23 am

Caelapes wrote:fascism: we should exterminate LGBTQ people, disabled people, and other "undesirables" while simultaneously sacrificing old people to the dow jones

communists: actually we shouldn't, we should organize society to provide for dignity for all people

horseshoe-theory peddlers: i cannot tell these positions apart!!!


It's an irrelevant argument. Both doctrines are fundamentally flawed. They both kill people. They both lower societies' potentials.

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Postby Blood Wine » Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:28 am

Jocospor wrote:IDENTITY POLITICS RIGHT HERE. NO PLACE IN THE WA. THANKS, RIGGER!


Quote, epic rap battles of history, clinton versus trump

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Postby South Reinkalistan » Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:30 am

Jocospor wrote:
Caelapes wrote:fascism: we should exterminate LGBTQ people, disabled people, and other "undesirables" while simultaneously sacrificing old people to the dow jones

communists: actually we shouldn't, we should organize society to provide for dignity for all people

horseshoe-theory peddlers: i cannot tell these positions apart!!!


It's an irrelevant argument. Both doctrines are fundamentally flawed. They both kill people. They both lower societies' potentials.

IDENTITY POLITICS RIGHT HERE. NO PLACE IN THE WA. THANKS, RIGGER!

I mean, authoritarian leftism and libertarian leftism are different things. I hate it when people group communism under one umbrella. Of course, I consider it to all personally be rubbish, but frankly stalin-esque socialism being compared to modern leftism is just a factual inaccuracy.
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Postby Caelapes » Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:31 am

Image

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Postby Aureumterra » Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:35 am

Caelapes wrote:(Image)

(Image)

Long live the workers' united front against fascism!

Caelapes, you do realize a communist isn’t going to win based on current polls?
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Postby Jocospor » Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:36 am

@Caelapes You being a tea drinker was better:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SePoOsiaDrc
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This is extremely rude.
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