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United Massachusetts
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Postby United Massachusetts » Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:33 pm

Tinhampton wrote:The astute observer will note that, as part of a recent manifesto edit, Caelapes now explicitly stands with the transgender community. So who is it going to be - the one who supports his trans comrades or the one who deals in trans catgirls? :D

Such glorious pandering.

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Postby Jocospor » Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:56 pm

Albennia wrote:
Tinhampton wrote:The astute observer will note that, as part of a recent manifesto edit, Caelapes now explicitly stands with the transgender community. So who is it going to be - the one who supports his trans comrades or the one who deals in trans catgirls? :D

Stand with the Communist Party of Great Britain (Marxist–Leninist).

Both are playing identity politics. The ideal candidate stands with the Nations of the World Assembly, not a various subset of groups. We're seeing firsthand how broken and corrupt the WA really is!
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Postby Czechoslovakia and Zakarpatia » Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:10 pm

Jocospor wrote:
Albennia wrote:Stand with the Communist Party of Great Britain (Marxist–Leninist).

Both are playing identity politics. The ideal candidate stands with the Nations of the World Assembly, not a various subset of groups. We're seeing firsthand how broken and corrupt the WA really is!

Oh, shut it, Jocospor. We all know that your wet dream is to dismantle the World Assembly by any means neccessary. If you've actually read Caelapes' manifesto, you would very quickly learn he is not at all about mere identity politics. Plus you don't stand a snowball's chance in hell of even making it to the general election, let alone winning. Take your anti-WA moaning back to the carcass of a confederation you came from.
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Postby Saint Nicholas and the Hussars » Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:14 pm

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Postby Jocospor » Wed Apr 01, 2020 1:02 am

Czechoslovakia and Zakarpatia wrote:
Jocospor wrote:Both are playing identity politics. The ideal candidate stands with the Nations of the World Assembly, not a various subset of groups. We're seeing firsthand how broken and corrupt the WA really is!

Oh, shut it, Jocospor. We all know that your wet dream is to dismantle the World Assembly by any means neccessary. If you've actually read Caelapes' manifesto, you would very quickly learn he is not at all about mere identity politics. Plus you don't stand a snowball's chance in hell of even making it to the general election, let alone winning. Take your anti-WA moaning back to the carcass of a confederation you came from.

I won't properly respond at the risk of a threadjack! :p
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Postby Allemonde » Wed Apr 01, 2020 1:13 am

I have to ask, is this the April fools joke for 2020? I never new we had a WA secretary general.
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Postby The JELLEAIN Republic » Wed Apr 01, 2020 1:17 am

So he wants to get rid of mods ... ?

Is this the April fools joke ?
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Postby Allemonde » Wed Apr 01, 2020 1:19 am

The JELLEAIN Republic wrote:So he wants to get rid of mods ... ?

Is this the April fools joke ?

I think the whole election thing is an April Fool's joke, just like in reality.

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Postby Valrifell » Wed Apr 01, 2020 5:41 am

OOC:

It's a sequel April Fools event that happened four years ago, the title has no power and is entirely a e s t h e t i c
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Anarchitaria
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Postby Anarchitaria » Wed Apr 01, 2020 5:46 am

Decentralize the secretariat, indeed. That was a promise you made four years ago, Caelapes. :eyebrow:

To the barricades! Down with the neo-liberal Secretariat!

Allemonde wrote:I have to ask, is this the April fools joke for 2020? I never new we had a WA secretary general.

You‘re correct. The whole “WA Secretary-General” election started off as an April Fools joke in 2016. The winner of the election will receive a nifty badge next to their WA Assembly badge and that’s about it.

Most campaigns here are lighthearted and all. We’re all in for the silliness. ^_^
Peter Kropotkin wrote, “We accustom ourselves and our children to hypocrisy, to the practice of a double-faced morality. And since the brain is ill at ease among lies, we cheat ourselves with sophistry. Hypocrisy and sophistry become the second nature of the civilized man. But a society cannot live thus; it must return to truth or cease to exist.” The Conquest of Bread (1892)

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Postby Celestiam » Wed Apr 01, 2020 5:52 am

https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=372841


Caelapes, which of these campaign promises have you held? Despite 4 years in office, Super-delegates are more powerful than ever, mods still tyranise the world, and I have seen no regional soviet.

What has happened in the last 4 years that makes you so bold as to request the WA to elect you back into office?


(obviously kidding, but I still would love an answer)
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Postby Greater Sacramento » Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:02 am

I'm sorry but why are LGBTQ rights at the center of this campaign, literally those details of a person have nothing to with this at all and even if they do supposedly and something has been done, it has had no effect to my understanding. I just find it strange as if that the candidate has nothing else to offer so this is what is being put out as a front.
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Postby Allemonde » Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:19 am

Anarchitaria wrote:
Allemonde wrote:I have to ask, is this the April fools joke for 2020? I never new we had a WA secretary general.

You‘re correct. The whole “WA Secretary-General” election started off as an April Fools joke in 2016. The winner of the election will receive a nifty badge next to their WA Assembly badge and that’s about it.

Most campaigns here are lighthearted and all. We’re all in for the silliness. ^_^

Thought so. :) Real funny, cause the WA is as powerless as the UN. Happy Aprils fools!

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Postby Aureumterra » Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:33 am

Czechoslovakia and Zakarpatia wrote:
Jocospor wrote:Both are playing identity politics. The ideal candidate stands with the Nations of the World Assembly, not a various subset of groups. We're seeing firsthand how broken and corrupt the WA really is!

Oh, shut it, Jocospor. We all know that your wet dream is to dismantle the World Assembly by any means neccessary. If you've actually read Caelapes' manifesto, you would very quickly learn he is not at all about mere identity politics. Plus you don't stand a snowball's chance in hell of even making it to the general election, let alone winning. Take your anti-WA moaning back to the carcass of a confederation you came from.

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Postby Ratateague » Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:46 am

Greater Sacramento wrote:I'm sorry but why are LGBTQ rights at the center of this campaign,

The real question here is why not? Do we need a reason to promote the stuggle of LGBTQIA peoples? We should use every opportunity, no matter how frivolous, to advocate for an oppressed minority. Trans Rights!
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Cornlind
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Postby Cornlind » Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:48 am

Why should I vote for you

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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:55 am

No, it is time to purge the WA of communist influence, not maintain it.
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Postby Great Algerstonia » Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:29 am

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Postby Caelapes » Wed Apr 01, 2020 12:40 pm

Not shitposting: We should stand with all oppressed people. The popularity of Trans Anarcho-Communist Lesbian Catgirls in the election is not at all frustrating to me. In fact, that popularity presents an organic opportunity to work to raise consciousness over LGBTQ struggles and how they intersect with the struggle for dignity of all working people.

From Liberation News on the 50th anniversary of Stonewall last June:

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50 years after Stonewall, it is still right to rebel

It is the 50th anniversary of the Stonewall Rebellion, and that militant cry for freedom still rings loudly. The movement it birthed has won major legal gains and transformed the thinking of hundreds of millions of people worldwide. Who could have thought in 1969, when dozens of gay, lesbian, bi and trans people of all backgrounds in lower Manhattan stood up against police harassment one night and said “no more!” that half a century later an estimated 3 million people would descend on New York City to celebrate LGBTQ liberation?

Everyone marching in 2019 is a product and beneficiary of Stonewall.

That struggle is far from over. While much of the country wants to move forward, well-organized and well-funded right-wing forces want to send us backward. The Trump administration has promised to block the Equality Act, which would add sexual orientation and gender identity to the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and other civil rights legislation as protected categories. This would give a green light to bigots to carry out their job, housing, and other forms of discrimination as “religious beliefs.”

This is just one part of a comprehensive reactionary agenda that targets many different groups and communities, especially poor and working-class people. That agenda includes the outrageous abortion bans. It includes the disgusting imprisonment of migrant and refugee families in cages at the U.S.-Mexico border. It includes the lifting of all oversight on the police departments with the most notorious records of racist abuse. It includes the massive giveaway of trillions of dollars to the very rich; the defunding of Medicaid; and the efforts to throw people out of public housing.

If that were not enough, Trump has scapegoated foreign countries for this country’s continued economic weaknesses and threatened new wars of aggression against countries he says, falsely, threaten our “national security.” Depending on the day of the week, he could be blaming China, Iran, Cuba, Venezuela or Palestinians. It’s a classic divide-and-conquer tactic — to get people to view the “other” peoples of the globe as a dangerous enemy rather than Wall Street banks, real estate developers and Fortune 500 corporations, which threaten workers’ actual security every day.

What can be done about this? The answer we often hear is to just vote them out. If Democrats can find a way to win the elections, we’re told, the reactionary agenda can be defeated. But is that the case?

Even when they controlled all three branches of government under the Obama presidency, the Democrats hardly fought for a progressive agenda, and compromised with Republicans every step of the way to impose cutbacks on the people while bailing out the banks. They went to war in Libya like Bush did in Iraq. They never fought for bills for immigrant justice or LGBTQ federal equality. They let the minimum wage stay at $7.25 while the rent in major cities — almost all controlled by Democrats — skyrocketed.

Take someone like Joe Biden, the Democratic “front-runner.” In Congress, Biden was a leader of mass incarceration policies, opposed “forced” school integration, voted for the Iraq war, and supported states trying to ban abortions. A couple months ago he called the country’s top anti-gay bigot, Vice President Mike Pence, a “decent guy.” If this is who is supposed to lead the fight against Trump, we’re doomed!

The real way forward we can find in Stonewall itself, in recalling the determined, independent and militant LGBTQ movement that took to the streets and shook up the whole country. That is always what has changed history. That is the fighting perspective of the Party for Socialism and Liberation, in the spirit of Stonewall and so many other militant movements. We’re not just against Trump but the whole system that created Trump. We do not just want to get rid of him, but all of the corporate-backed politicians, and the system that puts profits and Empire over the needs of the people and the planet. Join us!
    
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Czechoslovakia and Zakarpatia
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Postby Czechoslovakia and Zakarpatia » Wed Apr 01, 2020 12:46 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:No, it is time to purge the WA of communist influence, not maintain it.

Unfortunately, you will fail, since the Trans An-Com Lesbian Catgirls are leftist too. Besides, the Secretary-General holds no real power anyway, and the election is but a mere popularity contest held for fun.

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Postby Anarchitaria » Wed Apr 01, 2020 1:25 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:No, it is time to purge the WA of communist influence, not maintain it.

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Postby Harkback Union » Wed Apr 01, 2020 1:27 pm

Valrifell wrote:Caelapes is a corrupted member of the NS bourgeois elite! Look around, comrades, and ask yourself "what has Comrade Caelapes done to imrpove our lives?" The answer, is clear: nothing!

Mods still run as the long arm of the State, and the 1% of Delegates dominate voting power. It's clear that Comrade Caelapes must be replaced with a true Communist.


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Minimark
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Postby Minimark » Wed Apr 01, 2020 1:28 pm

He Promised this 4 years ago and nothing has changed. He can't do it and his reforms would lead to the fall of the globe and the WA. We need a strong candidate that will accept other ideas unlike the top 2 candidates. We need Kuriko a nation who has led their region and worked with the WA for prosperity. Order and Prosperity if you go Kuriko!

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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Wed Apr 01, 2020 2:02 pm

Czechoslovakia and Zakarpatia wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:No, it is time to purge the WA of communist influence, not maintain it.

Unfortunately, you will fail, since the Trans An-Com Lesbian Catgirls are leftist too. Besides, the Secretary-General holds no real power anyway, and the election is but a mere popularity contest held for fun.

Your latter statement is obvious. NS doesn't give real power for April fool's events.
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Postby Aureumterra » Wed Apr 01, 2020 2:21 pm

Czechoslovakia and Zakarpatia wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:No, it is time to purge the WA of communist influence, not maintain it.

Unfortunately, you will fail, since the Trans An-Com Lesbian Catgirls are leftist too. Besides, the Secretary-General holds no real power anyway, and the election is but a mere popularity contest held for fun.

Who said they will win? It’s just round one bud

Also anti communists should unite behind glorious Bigtopia after round one ends to ensure communists don’t take power, instead of splitting the vote
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