We demand a runoff election

[Gatito]

No. You're gonna be red and you're gonna like it.

[Thomas Branson III]

I agree! Better dead than red!

Well said.

[West Osea]

The winner only won by about 41%. This is not desirable. Since most of the nations did not want a communist, we demand and lobby for a runoff vote between the 2 leaders to determine the election. That's the fair way.

A message from the lobby for a runoff PAC.

Would you be complaining if you'd won? We are faced by a hypocrite, everyone.

[Insaeldor]

Alright, assuming that we did this. What would you do if Caelapes won? what would you say then? that he is cheating? that we need to somehow include every single WA nation on NS? Keep going down the line if you want but considering that Caealeps would only need 8.1% more to hold a majority it's unlikely that you would win.

we would then accept Caelapes as the winner of the election.

A lot of us aren't here because we hate caelapes sooooooo much. but because we can't accept a minority government in power.

[Communist EU]

FPTP is a Joke. It doesn't take into account 2nd preference.

Instant run-offs are little better in this case. Say for example, there are groups of people, these groups of people begin to form into parties, to better organise and represent their interests. If it was just the potatoe party and communist party, what about the raiders and defenders interests? See how it would be undemocratic with a run-off? With a run-off, the only people to get a say are communists and potatoes, and yet we're told, we're the ones who are supposed to be undemocratic.

[Mussolinis Blackshirts Army]

No. You're gonna be red and you're gonna like it.

Sic, Semper Tyrannus!

[SalaxaPAC]

The first past the post system is known to produce illegitimate results. Only majorities are legitimate. RUNOFF

Well then, the entire US House of Representatives and the British House of Commons are illegitimate then?

OOC. I do support electoral reform in the U.S. so yes, I do agree that they are not legitimate representations of the population, espically the UK. UKIP, even if I disagree, should have more than 1 seat.

[Greater European empire]

Get over it. We won, you lost, fair and square.

Yes you may have won today but our will shall never be broken even in the darkest hour you may torture our bodies but you will not break our minds

[Tuvan ASSR]

Just because you didn't win, doesn't mean you instantly get a new election because you are pissed. No, you won't get a new election. Idi Amin didn't want to join Potato. Texas didn't want to join Potato. TBH didn't want to join Potato! In other words, it was fair, because the other candidates couldn't unite if they tried.

I mean, a KOTH reference, a raiding group, an African Dictator, and a fucking vegetable? Seriously?

[Greater European empire]

Just because you didn't win, doesn't mean you instantly get a new election because you are pissed. No, you won't get a new election. Idi Amin didn't want to join Potato. Texas didn't want to join Potato. TBH didn't want to join Potato! In other words, it was fair, because the other candidates couldn't unite if they tried.

I mean, a KOTH reference, a raiding group, an African Dictator, and a fucking vegetable? Seriously?

All are better than a communist

[District XIV]

FPTP is a Joke. It doesn't take into account 2nd preference.

Instant run-offs are little better in this case. Say for example, there are groups of people, these groups of people begin to form into parties, to better organise and represent their interests. If it was just the potatoe party and communist party, what about the raiders and defenders interests? See how it would be undemocratic with a run-off? With a run-off, the only people to get a say are communists and potatoes, and yet we're told, we're the ones who are supposed to be undemocratic.

I love the irony in the guy whose candidate won with a plurality and by a gap of 246 votes saying his movement is the most democratic.

I mean, a KOTH reference, a raiding group, an African Dictator, and a fucking vegetable? Seriously?

Right, because literal Communism is objectively better than all of those.

[Floydian Britain]

The winner only won by about 41%. This is not desirable. Since most of the nations did not want a communist, we demand and lobby for a runoff vote between the 2 leaders to determine the election. That's the fair way.

A message from the lobby for a runoff PAC.

Would you be complaining if you'd won? We are faced by a hypocrite, everyone.

You have no way of knowing that.

[North-by-Northwesteros]

Nononono you're doing this all wrong: we need Approval vote! It's just like this except you can vote for as many people as you like. It works really well.

[SalaxaPAC]

Just because you didn't win, doesn't mean you instantly get a new election because you are pissed. No, you won't get a new election. Idi Amin didn't want to join Potato. Texas didn't want to join Potato. TBH didn't want to join Potato! In other words, it was fair, because the other candidates couldn't unite if they tried.

I mean, a KOTH reference, a raiding group, an African Dictator, and a fucking vegetable? Seriously?

It is not fair when a minority of the people speak for all.

[Ancient Republics]

Fourty-one percent is not majority, this election has made complications with the user base.
Action must be taken.
Bomb the "winner" with potatoes.

[Atealia]

Alright, assuming that we did this. What would you do if Caelapes won? what would you say then? that he is cheating? that we need to somehow include every single WA nation on NS? Keep going down the line if you want but considering that Caealeps would only need 8.1% more to hold a majority it's unlikely that you would win.

we would then accept Caelapes as the winner of the election.

A lot of us aren't here because we hate caelapes sooooooo much. but because we can't accept a minority government in power.

Hey, I'm all for it. in my own region I'm working on establishing a STV system for the next election. But you can't pretend that a lot of people who are calling for this are doing so because a Communist won. I guarantee a lot of people would still be saying that the vote is illegitimate if he won this proposed runoff vote.

[Mussolinis Blackshirts Army]

WE WILL NEVER SURRENDER!

[Pristine Columbia]

Completely agree with this.

I don't want to be ruled by a pinko.

[The Democratic Nation of Unovia]

Caelapes won. Sure, not by a majority, but it was still by a plurality.
If you all were guaranteed a runoff, would the ones who voted for the other three vote for any of the two remaining?
How many would be in the runoff? What would be the cutoff?
Proudly voted Caelapes.

[Greater European empire]

WE WILL NEVER SURRENDER!

I agree fellow fascist comrade

[We Couldnt Agree On A Name]

Alright, assuming that we did this. What would you do if Caelapes won? what would you say then? that he is cheating? that we need to somehow include every single WA nation on NS? Keep going down the line if you want but considering that Caealeps would only need 8.1% more to hold a majority it's unlikely that you would win.

That he won in a fair ballot.

[Willbombya]

What's the big deal about that pinko bastard being the Secretary-General? We lost, he won. Let's stop pouting about it. Odds are Caelapes is just going to sit on his ass and toil in corruption, along with every other nation in the WA's sector of authority. Unless he enacts something which outright infringes upon my nation's right to do it's own thing and invade whoever we want, I'm not going to be a part of some uproar.

But hey, on the positive side, at least Caelapes supports keeping raiding legal. That's a plus for me.

[Korica]

for all those demanding a "runoff election". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQYob6dpTTk

[District XIV]

Caelapes won. Sure, not by a majority, but it was still by a plurality.

And this is a good thing? Winning by a plurality means more people didn't vote for you than voted for you.

If you all were guaranteed a runoff, would the ones who voted for the other three vote for any of the two remaining?

Probably, yeah.

How many would be in the runoff?

[Pristine Columbia]

We must react to this communist threat but we must also make sure our democracy does not fall victim to fascism.