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by Gatito » Sun Apr 03, 2016 10:18 am
by Neues Nationalsozialistiches Reich » Sun Apr 03, 2016 10:19 am
by The United Holy German Reich » Sun Apr 03, 2016 10:40 am
by Neues Nationalsozialistiches Reich » Sun Apr 03, 2016 10:41 am
by Khanatah » Sun Apr 03, 2016 11:18 am
by Neues Nationalsozialistiches Reich » Sun Apr 03, 2016 11:32 am
Khanatah wrote:Yeah, George Orwell was an open socialist. As bad as Animal Farm was, a betrayed revolution and all, do you believe it painted the humans (capitalists) in a good light? What point do you think was being made when that handshake happened? How was Snowball, the ideological purist who got the ball rolling, considered a mashup of Marx and Trotsky, portrayed, positively or negatively? Animal Farm was a warning to radicals to beware those who betray the revolution for greed. It wasn't a discussion of inevitable greed; it was a storyof a communist dream being betrayed and this point is driven by the "communists" shaling hands with the "capitalists", saying rhese elites are one and the same, or even more relatably, that the problem with communism is that selfish leaders chose capitalism behind their backs and enslaved them.
From Animal Farm I didn't learn to distrust communist idealism, I learned to distrust representatives and capitalists. I saw nothing in the writing that claimed it was some inevitable occurance, it was a case of the good guys losing, which happens. I see a dream worth retrying.
1984 seems a lot closer to modern day life than any point in any "communist" country/society, period. Some things are more nuanced, but pretty much anything accused of happening in "communist" countries gets a bye when it occurs in capitalist ones. if Flint, Michigan was in Cuba, we'd never hear the end of it, yet that shit is happening all over North America. The NSA, can you imagine the Soviets doing this and Red Scared America not flipping out?
Also, congrats Caelapes, only six more hours til your victory speech!
by Blitze » Sun Apr 03, 2016 11:56 am
by Neues Nationalsozialistiches Reich » Sun Apr 03, 2016 11:58 am
Blitze wrote:This campaign claims to be running for the people, however, I don't see how they are going to make all this happen and believe their promises are unlikely to occur, and are just saying what they know will get them elected.
by Luepola » Sun Apr 03, 2016 12:04 pm
by New Sperland » Sun Apr 03, 2016 12:09 pm
Blitze wrote:This campaign claims to be running for the people, however, I don't see how they are going to make all this happen and believe their promises are unlikely to occur, and are just saying what they know will get them elected.
by Sylven » Sun Apr 03, 2016 12:11 pm
New Sperland wrote:That is why I am an Anarchist. (No, I don't go around throwing bombs and causing havoc and chaos all day) Don't judge me.
by New Sperland » Sun Apr 03, 2016 12:18 pm
by Sylven » Sun Apr 03, 2016 12:19 pm
New Sperland wrote:Ireland had a famine in 1845 because the Britz took our Potatoes
Our population was eight million, but now its only four million. Ireland has lots of potatoes now.
by New Sperland » Sun Apr 03, 2016 12:23 pm
by Sylven » Sun Apr 03, 2016 12:25 pm
New Sperland wrote:Both. You all should have voted me. I wouldn't have forced my ideology on you all like Caelapes.
by New Sperland » Sun Apr 03, 2016 12:27 pm
by GreatestBanks » Sun Apr 03, 2016 12:28 pm
by Sylven » Sun Apr 03, 2016 12:29 pm
by Gatito » Sun Apr 03, 2016 12:29 pm
by Sylven » Sun Apr 03, 2016 12:29 pm
Caelapes wrote:hi guys stop spamming stuff for your candidates in this thread as directed by mods, thanks
by GreatestBanks » Sun Apr 03, 2016 12:30 pm
by Gatito » Sun Apr 03, 2016 12:30 pm
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