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Should zombies be granted rights?

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Monstervers
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Postby Monstervers » Wed Oct 30, 2019 1:37 pm

Yes

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Postby Troyskova » Wed Oct 30, 2019 1:37 pm

Roelandia wrote:How can you attribute equal civil rights to beings you can't even communicate with and are also hostile to you?

What if we can communicate with them, but we haven't figured out how? We shouldn't kill them because we don't know enough. I believe they are sentient, feeling living beings. They deserve rights equal to any human.
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Postby South World » Wed Oct 30, 2019 1:37 pm

Zombies are reanimated corpses and have no sense of self or intelligence. They are dead. They have no rights.
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Postby Blueflarst » Wed Oct 30, 2019 1:38 pm

Roelandia wrote:How can you attribute equal civil rights to beings you can't even communicate with and are also hostile to you?

Magic of liberalism they grant rights to someone wanting to eat them
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Postby Troyskova » Wed Oct 30, 2019 1:39 pm

Wisea wrote:Not until they're cured!

Granting them rights after being cured is wrong! What about all the zombies that were killed? Why is the zombie "strange"? It should be the new social norm! Zombies are equal to any human!
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Postby Lerasi » Wed Oct 30, 2019 1:40 pm

If they have free will, yes.

I read a book where there are two kinds of Zombies: the Reasoning Dead and the Lost. The Lost have lost their minds to the disease and thus seek only to feed their hunger and the Reasoning Dead have control of their mind and survive on livestock. They keep the Lost in check so that they don't spill over into the free world. The term Lost might be incorrect but its something like that and I think its GENIUS.

So free will and a healthy, nonviolent way to satisfy your hunger are prerequisites in my eyes.
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Postby Blueflarst » Wed Oct 30, 2019 1:40 pm

Troyskova wrote:
Wisea wrote:Not until they're cured!

Granting them rights after being cured is wrong! What about all the zombies that were killed? Why is the zombie "strange"? It should be the new social norm! Zombies are equal to any human!

Clearly you are horde sided
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Postby Wisea » Wed Oct 30, 2019 1:41 pm

Blueflarst wrote:
Troyskova wrote:Granting them rights after being cured is wrong! What about all the zombies that were killed? Why is the zombie "strange"? It should be the new social norm! Zombies are equal to any human!

Clearly you are horde sided

Agreed.
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Postby Lerasi » Wed Oct 30, 2019 1:41 pm

The Grand Desert Library wrote:
Troyskova wrote:Long answer?

Well...it's complicated. :p

When are civil rights issues not?

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Postby Destructive Government Economic System » Wed Oct 30, 2019 1:41 pm

Yes please

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Postby Blueflarst » Wed Oct 30, 2019 1:42 pm

Lerasi wrote:If they have free will, yes.

I read a book where there are two kinds of Zombies: the Reasoning Dead and the Lost. The Lost have lost their minds to the disease and thus seek only to feed their hunger and the Reasoning Dead have control of their mind and survive on livestock. They keep the Lost in check so that they don't spill over into the free world. The term Lost might be incorrect but its something like that and I think its GENIUS.

So free will and a healthy, nonviolent way to satisfy your hunger are prerequisites in my eyes.

Such book
XAXAXA
It has a part of truth but it does not say about the real horde acting.
The free will infected control the rest to spread more their plague
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Postby Troyskova » Wed Oct 30, 2019 1:42 pm

Blueflarst wrote:
Troyskova wrote:Granting them rights after being cured is wrong! What about all the zombies that were killed? Why is the zombie "strange"? It should be the new social norm! Zombies are equal to any human!

Clearly you are horde sided

I side with the fact that all sentient life should have the ability to choose their leader, enjoy basic freedoms and personal liberty and be treated as the equal to any other human! We should coexist with the hordes in harmony, not massacre them in cold blood!
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Postby Kirina » Wed Oct 30, 2019 1:42 pm

Holdac. Bruh.

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Postby Troyskova » Wed Oct 30, 2019 1:43 pm

Kirina wrote:Holdac. Bruh.

How ironic that I am the one making this thread
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Postby 1st East Prussian Grenadier Regiment » Wed Oct 30, 2019 1:43 pm

Troyskova wrote:
Blueflarst wrote:Clearly you are horde sided

I side with the fact that all sentient life should have the ability to choose their leader, enjoy basic freedoms and personal liberty and be treated as the equal to any other human! We should coexist with the hordes in harmony, not massacre them in cold blood!

brb lemme just rev up the tanks

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Postby Lerasi » Wed Oct 30, 2019 1:44 pm

Blueflarst wrote:
Lerasi wrote:If they have free will, yes.

I read a book where there are two kinds of Zombies: the Reasoning Dead and the Lost. The Lost have lost their minds to the disease and thus seek only to feed their hunger and the Reasoning Dead have control of their mind and survive on livestock. They keep the Lost in check so that they don't spill over into the free world. The term Lost might be incorrect but its something like that and I think its GENIUS.

So free will and a healthy, nonviolent way to satisfy your hunger are prerequisites in my eyes.

Such book
XAXAXA
It has a part of truth but it does not say about the real horde acting.
The free will infected control the rest to spread more their plague

Not in this book.

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Postby Blueflarst » Wed Oct 30, 2019 1:44 pm

Troyskova wrote:
Blueflarst wrote:Clearly you are horde sided

I side with the fact that all sentient life should have the ability to choose their leader, enjoy basic freedoms and personal liberty and be treated as the equal to any other human! We should coexist with the hordes in harmony, not massacre them in cold blood!

You can not coexist with them they want to massacrate you
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“The care of nature and the environment is of ultimate importance. We cannot prosper we cannot even survive without a healthy, viable ecosystem to support us.”
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“Our game is a long game. We do not plan for the next year, or the next ten years, or the next budget cycle. We plan for eternity.”
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Postby Mr Zombie » Wed Oct 30, 2019 1:44 pm

Freeza wrote:What a beautiful thread, but civil rights are only given to conscience beings.


If you prick us do we not sorta bleed? If you tickle us do we not try to eat your fingers?

You sir are a zombist, and sounds like you should have your brains eaten.
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Postby Zurkerx » Wed Oct 30, 2019 1:44 pm

Hmm, now that my brain is scheming, this would be a good special issue for NS. Perhaps I should write an issue for this.
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Postby Troyskova » Wed Oct 30, 2019 1:45 pm

Zurkerx wrote:Hmm, now that my brain is scheming, this would be a good special issue for NS. Perhaps I should write an issue for this.

Already did with my main :P
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Postby Arachkya » Wed Oct 30, 2019 1:46 pm

Nothing will change in Arachkya.

We have necromancers to keep them in line anyhow. :twisted:
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Postby Troyskova » Wed Oct 30, 2019 1:47 pm

Mr Zombie wrote:
Freeza wrote:What a beautiful thread, but civil rights are only given to conscience beings.


If you prick us do we not sorta bleed? If you tickle us do we not try to eat your fingers?

You sir are a zombist, and sounds like you should have your brains eaten.

No, I believe they should not me murdered in cold blood.
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Postby Mr Zombie » Wed Oct 30, 2019 1:50 pm

Troyskova wrote:
Mr Zombie wrote:
If you prick us do we not sorta bleed? If you tickle us do we not try to eat your fingers?

You sir are a zombist, and sounds like you should have your brains eaten.

No, I believe they should not me murdered in cold blood.


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Postby Conelania » Wed Oct 30, 2019 1:53 pm

I mean, if they don't bite you, then yes, they deserve all basic rights. If they can still bite, they don't deserve a lot of rights, but they should at least have the right to have a life.
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Postby Troyskova » Wed Oct 30, 2019 1:55 pm

Conelania wrote:I mean, if they don't bite you, then yes, they deserve all basic rights. If they can still bite, they don't deserve a lot of rights, but they should at least have the right to have a life.

exactly!
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