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Should zombies be granted rights?

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Troyskova
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Should zombies be granted rights?

Postby Troyskova » Wed Oct 30, 2019 1:27 pm

Do zombies fit the criteria to be granted basic civil rights? I believe they do. What are your thoughts?
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Postby Grotesque spore creatures » Wed Oct 30, 2019 1:28 pm

...As long as they are neutralized and don't continue to bite everything on sight, they should get rights.
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Postby Wisea » Wed Oct 30, 2019 1:28 pm

Not until they're cured!
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Postby The UNDEAD CORPORATION » Wed Oct 30, 2019 1:29 pm

Yes

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Postby Troyskova » Wed Oct 30, 2019 1:30 pm

Wisea wrote:Not until they're cured!

I understand, but are zombies not humans? They still possess the capabilities of a regular human.
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Postby The Grand Desert Library » Wed Oct 30, 2019 1:30 pm

Short answer, no.

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Postby Earthbound Immortal Squad » Wed Oct 30, 2019 1:31 pm

Absolutely we should give them all a hug.
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Postby Kasa Tkoth Sphere » Wed Oct 30, 2019 1:31 pm

Zombies in most contexts are no more aware of their surroundings or capable of giving consent than living people in comas; arguably the same rights should be extended to each until retrieving them from their altered state becomes feasible.
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Wed Oct 30, 2019 1:31 pm

They have the right to be cured.
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Postby Qhevak » Wed Oct 30, 2019 1:31 pm

We have the tech to give zombies intelligence while remaining zombified, so sure.
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Postby Judgesi » Wed Oct 30, 2019 1:31 pm

No

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Postby Troyskova » Wed Oct 30, 2019 1:31 pm

The Grand Desert Library wrote:Short answer, no.

Long answer?
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Postby Blueflarst » Wed Oct 30, 2019 1:32 pm

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Postby The Grand Desert Library » Wed Oct 30, 2019 1:32 pm

Troyskova wrote:
The Grand Desert Library wrote:Short answer, no.

Long answer?

Well...it's complicated. :p

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Postby Valentian Elysium » Wed Oct 30, 2019 1:33 pm

Perhaps not...if zombies would have rights then nobody would be able to hurt/attack them, since they could (perhaps) have some troubles if the zombies are cured/defeated (since, y'know, assault is an offence).
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Postby Arevastan » Wed Oct 30, 2019 1:33 pm

If we follow the traditional definition of zombie (walking dead, etc.) then absolutely, categorically not. Dogs should have more rights. The only right a zombie should have is the right to be shot on sight - with caveats of scientific nature, of course.
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Postby Aurevbush » Wed Oct 30, 2019 1:33 pm

The Declaration of Rights of People and Nation say no.
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Postby Troyskova » Wed Oct 30, 2019 1:33 pm

Blueflarst wrote:EXTERMINATE ALL OF THEM
THEY ARE DEVOURER OF SOULS WITH NO OTHER THINKING THAN TO INFECT THE REST

There isn't enough research about these zombies. We could be committing genocide on a sentient life form. We need to grant them full citizenships!
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Postby Dreadful Maggot King » Wed Oct 30, 2019 1:34 pm

The Undead are superior. Down with the Living.

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Postby Mr Zombie » Wed Oct 30, 2019 1:35 pm

Dreadful Maggot King wrote:The Undead are superior. Down with the Living.


Yes! Time for all to embrace their undead overloads, as cows are to humans so are humans to zombies. We will take good care of our human cattle.
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Postby Troyskova » Wed Oct 30, 2019 1:35 pm

Valentian Elysium wrote:Perhaps not...if zombies would have rights then nobody would be able to hurt/attack them, since they could (perhaps) have some troubles if the zombies are cured/defeated (since, y'know, assault is an offence).

But if zombies have rights, then hurting other humans would also grant them punishment. You know?
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Postby Roelandia » Wed Oct 30, 2019 1:36 pm

How can you grant equal civil rights to beings you can't even communicate with and are also hostile to you?
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Postby Kyoki Chudoku » Wed Oct 30, 2019 1:36 pm

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The Kyoki Chudoku no Himitsu no Shakai has verified that the undead are result of an arcane contagion. Zombies are therefore no more than corpses animated by microbial organisms and magic. Further, their relentless hunger for flesh endangers the civilian population. Zombies are to be eliminated through purification or military means on sight. They have no rights in their zombie form.
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Postby Freeza » Wed Oct 30, 2019 1:36 pm

What a beautiful thread, but civil rights are only given to conscience beings.

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Postby Wisea » Wed Oct 30, 2019 1:37 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:They have the right to be cured.

I can see your angle, and as someone who comes from that angle, heck yeah!
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