A COLD WAR (1980 Geopolitcal RP) - OOC

[The Rio Grande River Basin]

Sao, should we have a discord?

Also I wanted to ask; could we have a tripolar world, with the Capitalists, the Communists and a non-aligned bloc?

[Benuty]

Two things that need to be clarified about Germany (though):

1) There is no such thing as perfect indoctrination, so while national suicide is a valid strategy to follow as a totalitarian regime, the chances of it working out IC are slim (even though we could see mass suicides) - but the majority of the German population would survive

2) While the plan to poison the former Allied powers is interesting and provides a good storyline, again the chances of success IC are again slim.

With those two clarified, I am looking forward to the final app.

The majority of the population will survive, but the national suicide is about resolving the German Question (its a twisted take on Morganthaus in real life book Germany is our Problem on the topic of Germans) as well as Theodore Kaufmans book Germany must Perish. No forest will be taken for lumber, no Mines will be mined, the land will be unfarmable, the air poison, the cities coffins, the water undrinkable, and the industrial plants wastelands.

Operation Nightshade is a double entendre, it's also a reference to an odorless gas in WWII (one that could only be treated with atropine if noticed in time) made by a material traditionally used for assassinating royalty.

Reading into a lot of operations from Japan, the Soviet Union, Nazi Germany, and even partisan operations to poison Germans (Nakam planned to kill 6 million Germans as revenge for the Holocaust through poisoning the waterways). The definition of survival will be one where a century from now Germany is a thing on a map, and Germans speaking another language, worshipping in other countries places of worship, and annoying their grandparents with questions about a land they've never known. A land scoured as a case study on what might have been in various universities. A land of statistics for humanities cruelty to fellow man.

Editor Note: Sorry if this is all a little banal, but I study religion for a living, and part of that is dealing with genocide through a religious lens hence the reason I know a lot of this stuff. So there's going to be a lot of posts about Germans wondering about religious meaning in a world like this.

Editor Note 2: I'll expand upon the Technocratic Faction later. For the moment they're the moderates in the factional struggle that want to open up Germany slightly, get it computerized thoroughly, and have media come into the country to prepare for war crimes tribunals (the foreigners that were working for the zone are relevant here).

[Dragos Bee]

Editor Note: Sorry if this is all a little banal, but I study religion for a living, and part of that is dealing with genocide through a religious lens hence the reason I know a lot of this stuff. So there's going to be a lot of posts about Germans wondering about religious meaning in a world like this.

And it bothers me. On a personal level. Particularly as I saw your sig and know you have opposing political viewpoints that, with all due respect, have led to calls for genocide and other forms of suffering before.

So please at least provide some assurance that we can work together OOCly as human beings; we're both part of P2TM, after all.

[Benuty]

Editor Note: Sorry if this is all a little banal, but I study religion for a living, and part of that is dealing with genocide through a religious lens hence the reason I know a lot of this stuff. So there's going to be a lot of posts about Germans wondering about religious meaning in a world like this.

And it bothers me. On a personal level. Particularly as I saw your sig and know you have opposing political viewpoints that, with all due respect, have led to calls for genocide and other forms of suffering before.

So please at least provide some assurance that we can work together OOCly as human beings; we're both part of P2TM, after all.

To be quite honest the sig is outdated like 2016 outdated. My primary focus as of late has been dealing with the Japanese suppression of the Ainu, and how religion has aided them in their survival.

[Dragos Bee]

And it bothers me. On a personal level. Particularly as I saw your sig and know you have opposing political viewpoints that, with all due respect, have led to calls for genocide and other forms of suffering before.

So please at least provide some assurance that we can work together OOCly as human beings; we're both part of P2TM, after all.

To be quite honest the sig is outdated like 2016 outdated. My primary focus as of late has been dealing with the Japanese suppression of the Ainu, and how religion has aided them in their survival.

Ah, good to know. And yeah, the Ainu are a resilient people.

[Benuty]

For final assurances I'm not going to arbitrarily pick which side coups Willy Brandt. I'm thinking a straw poll will determine the victor when the coup event pops up given the extremism of one of the factions involved. I do not want people thinking they don't have a say.

[Upper Magica]

APPLICATION
The Pacific Federation - Superpower Variant - WIP

Name: The Pacific Federation
Flag:

Capital: Yǎjiādá(Jakarta), Sovereign Capitol District
Territory: The Pacific Federation is composed of 13 voting members, first and foremost of which in the South Pacific - the primus inter pares, one could say - is the Federation of Nuosandalan Republics, spanning the entirety of what many Westerners call Indonesia, Micronesia, and Polynesia, though various Polynesian and Micronesian polities are members of the Federation, having been granted 'independence' from the Republics since the Federation's founding. The Maori Republic and the People's Republic of Aozhou, both founding members of the Federation, comprise the entirety of Australasia, while in the North Pacific, the Ma-yi/Philippine archipelagic states, the Formosan/Liuqiuan Republic, the Republic of Ezo, and the State of Japan are the Federation's northernmost constituents.

Population:

Nuosandala(Indonesia): 148,177,096
Japan: 117,060,396
Aozhou(Australia): 14,802,000
Taiwan: 18,100,281
Mayi Archipelago(Philippines): 47,800,685
Aotearoa(NZ): 3,217,000
Outlying Islands: 1,961,960

Total: 351,119,418

Official Language(s): Multiple - Simplified Hakka(most commonly used in trade/everyday life and for state business) Hokkien, Cantonese, Hu-Javanese Creole, Malay, Sino-Sulawesi, Lushani, Danao, Tagalog, Visayan, Papuan, Tuvaluan, Tongic, Pitjantjatjara, Pama-Nyungan, Maori, various Polynesian languages, Marshallnese, Japanese, Ainu, Ryukyuan

Ethnic Breakdown: Too innumerable to count; the Federation is one of the most diverse states on Earth, if not the most diverse state on Earth, host to literally hundreds of ethnic groups. Major ethnic blocs, however, are the Lushanese, Nuosandalans, Maori, Visayans, Javanese, Taiwanese, and Japanese. Local traditions are respected and guaranteed wide rights by the Basic Framework of the Federation, the supranational constitution of the Federation taking precedence over any national constitutions currently in force in any of the Federation's constituents.

Religious Breakdown: The Federation is officially and practically a secular state as dictated by the Basic Framework of the Federation: no Member Republic may favor any establishment of religion in its laws nor proscribe any religious body operating righteously in accordance with secular law. Its citizens, however, are overwhelmingly religious: many subscribe to spiritual types of belief, such as Hinduism, Buddhism, or various folk religions such as Shinto.

Others subscribe to more philosophical beliefs, such as Neo-Confucianism in the old style, or most commonly, Rationalist Confucianism, which has gradually morphed into a more humanistic tradition befitting a Republic; many old beliefs against the empowerment of women, for example, have been excised from the original doctrine, while liberty, critical thinking, and democratic-egalitarian values have increasingly been emphasized. Another subsection of the populace has entirely renounced religion and tradition in the face of an evermore materialist society - though it should be noted that only 4-8% of the population have identified in the latest census as 'atheist/unbelieving'.

Type of Government: The Pacific Federation is de jure a supranational entity: de facto, it is economically, militarily, and, albeit with wide autonomy granted to its members, politically integrated into a federal republic, with each constituent of the Federation given proportional voting rights according to its population.

Head of State:

President of the Federal Government:

The Honorable Li Kuan-Yao

Head of Government:

Vice President of the Federal Government:

The Honorable Yasuhiro Nakasone


Legislature (the name of your national legislature): The Pan-Pacific Assembly
Legislative Houses:

The first and foremost of the three levels of the Assembly is the Pacific Council, whose members are appointed by the legislatures of the constituent states composing the Federation to a maximum of two five-year terms, though they may be recalled at the pleasure of the legislatures to which they are beholden to.

The Council acts as the budgetary auditing body of the Pacific Federal Government and approves, in the end, appointments to the judicial and bureaucratic branches of government. The Council is also concerned with matters of legislative discipline, and may censure - or even refer to the offices of the Federal High Court for impeachment - appointed and popularly-elected officials.

Currently, these representatives are apportioned among the Federal Constituents as follows:

Federation of Nuosandalan Republics: 6
State of Japan: 4
Aozhou People's Republic: 4
Republic of Liuqiu: 2
Union of Lusung and Mimaropa: 2
Maguindanao DR: 2
State of Kabisay-an: 2
Maori Republic: 2
Ezo Republic: 1
Kingdom of Federated Polynesia: 1
Tu'i Tonga Empire: 1
Fiji: 1
Samoa: 1

Total: 29 seats

Secondly is the Legislative Diet of the Pan-Pacific Assembly, which essentially acts as an upper house in legislative terms. Its main duty is the election of the President and Vice President of the Federation as well as the amendment and final approval of legislature before it is sent off to the executive for either signing or veto. Just as well, any amendments to the Basic Framework of the Pacific Federation are solely drafted and considered here.

Like the Pacific Council, the number of representatives are fixed, except candidates for office are directly elected by the population of the constituent states from which they hail to a maximum of three 3-year terms in office.

These seats are apportioned among the Federal Constituents as follows:

Federation of Nuosandalan Republics: 24
State of Japan: 16
Aozhou People's Republic: 16
Republic of Liuqiu: 8
Union of Lusung and Mimaropa: 8
Maguindanao DR: 8
State of Kabisay-an: 8
Maori Republic: 8
Ezo Republic: 4
Kingdom of Federated Polynesia: 4
Tu'i Tonga Empire: 4
Fiji: 4
Samoa: 4

Total: 116 seats

Lastly is the Popular Diet, the lower house of the Federation's legislature, which - obviously - proposes and votes on legislation and budgets through a series of parliamentary committees, approves treaties with foreign nations and decrees, declarations of war, and other states of emergency proposed by the Government. There is no formal mechanism for a no-confidence vote per se like in other lower-houses: instead, the Basic Framework of the Federation outlining budgetary procedures dictates that a new election, following Westminsterian direction, must be held by the Legislative Diet. In a sense, a budget vote acts as a vote of no-confidence every fiscal year.

Unlike the upper two houses of the Pan-Pacific Assembly, the Popular Diet is not beholden to national borders or treaty negotiations: its members, who serve for a maximum of three two-year terms, are directly elected by the people, although many of the Popular Diet's electoral districts do align well with national borders, but not always.

Total: [population-based count here]

Party in Power: Bright Future - Liberal/Democratic Party
National Issues:

The Twilight Struggle

The Military-Zaibatsu Complex

The Pacific Experiment

Schizophrenic Federalism

On Communism's Doorstep

Public Goals: Further the cause of global Liberal Democracy, keep global markets free, maintain the global system of collective-security for the world's democracies.
Private Goals: Destroy global Communism, Win the Cold War

GDP (nominal): $2.73 trillion (1st largest)

Currency: The Pacific Credit
Economic System:
Ah, capitalism.

The Pacific Federation is the world's dominant liberal capitalist economy. Like most capitalist systems, labor is free to come and go. Although not enshrined within the Basic Framework of the Federation, the right to work unfettered by the chains of coercive 'union shop' models, essentially a Communist distortion of chattel slavery, is enshrined in law. Workers are protected, instead, by a vigorous program of Federal directives on workplace safety and wage law, while companies are required to furnish a minimum standard of health insurance and retirement benefits to their employees. Due to the Federation's diverse nature, these standards - sans that of the common workplace safety policy - such as the minimum wage and value of mandated employee benefits vary from member state to member state.

In reality, this creates a divide: the Federation's poorer states funnel a supply of cheap migrant labor into its industrialized and richer regions. At the same time, this provides the Federation's industrial base with a hoard of cheap resources, as depressed wages in poorer - and agriculturally/resource rich - member states naturally creates a supply of cheap commodities.

Also like most capitalist systems, the markets tend to be free of negative government interference such as punitive taxes and tariffs, as well as in, most cases, government subsidy. However, for certain sectors of the economy deemed essential to the functioning of society, the Federal Government - through subsidies, interest-free loans, and other sorts of market-manipulation - sets the price of foodstuffs, keeping the prices artificially low. In addition, the defense sector is lavished with subsidies for obvious reasons of national status, while R&D and academia are routinely given blank-checks within reason.

Japan, Liuqiu/Taiwan, and the Sōngdá Islands of Nuosandala represent powerful centers of the Federation's economy, being the most educated and industrialized regions within the Federation. As such, these locations make up over 80% of its manufacturing potential - as well as roughly 75% of the information-based economy. Emphasis is made, in government policy, on encouraging the growth of heavy industrial/manufacturing capability: a policy that for the last 40 years has paid off immensely. Sony electronics, Xingji, Toyota, and Honda automobiles, gigantic Mitsubishi marine engines propelling simply massive cargo ships, Hongzhi computers and stereo systems: these all are iconic brands representing the sheer heft of Federation industry and its capability to innovate despite what one may call monopolistic practices.
Major Exports:
Major Imports:
Defense Budget (USD):
Alliance(s): The United Nations Military Organization(premier liberal-capitalist economic and military alliance)

Military Branches (names of official Armed Forces Branches):

The Pacific Federal Self-Defense Force(unified command)

The Federal Ground Self-Defense Force(land army)

The Federal Maritime Self-Defense Force(navy)

The Federal Air Self-Defense Force(air force)

The Federal Excise and Customs Agency Enforcement Arm(coast guard)

Active Duty: 2.2 million troops, officers, and support personnel organized across all five branches

Reserve Duty: 1.2 million troops, officers, and support personnel enrolled into each branch's reserve component, 1.8 million trained personnel in Ready Reserve, liable to be recalled into service up to 9 years after expiry of contract

Total Manpower: 5.2 million personnel

Land Force:

The Federal Ground Self-Defense Force is the Pacific Federation's prime land warfare component of the Federal Self-Defense Force. More to be added later.

Naval Force:

The Federal Maritime Self-Defense Force is the Pacific Federation's naval component of the Federal Self-Defense Force. More to be added later.

Air Force:

The Federal Air Self-Defense Force is the Pacific Federation's foremost aerial warfare component of the Federal Self-Defense Force. More to be added later.

Other Military Information:

The Pacific Federation has the world's second-largest nuclear stockpile and possesses a nuclear triad capability, possessing 17,800 nuclear warheads divided between air-launched cruise missiles and freefall bombs, submarine-launched ballistic missiles, truck-transported intermediate-range ballistic missiles mounted on TEL platforms and ICBM 'farms' concentrated in the highlands of Japan and the outback of Aozhou. Most, however, remain in storage, while a significant amount of these warheads are either obsolete or meant for tactical usage.

Additionally, the Special Activities Command, operating under a unified command, is composed of (tbd)

History:

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RP Example(s): If you are new and do not have an example, you can write a short (two paragraphs long) RP in your app for me to evaluate.

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[Upper Magica]

Above is my (heavily WIP) application. I will attenuate it into a lesser form(though still keeping the basic concept!) should GCCS win this twilight struggle to see who gets to be the Democratic Vanguard(tm).

[Benuty]

Above is my (heavily WIP) application. I will attenuate it into a lesser form(though still keeping the basic concept!) should GCCS win this twilight struggle to see who gets to be the Democratic Vanguard(tm).

Kind of curious what the USRs stance is on Southern China? Like I'm surprised they stopped their advance. Wonder if that might generate some curious interactions with you?

[Upper Magica]

Above is my (heavily WIP) application. I will attenuate it into a lesser form(though still keeping the basic concept!) should GCCS win this twilight struggle to see who gets to be the Democratic Vanguard(tm).

Kind of curious what the USRs stance is on Southern China? Like I'm surprised they stopped their advance. Wonder if that might generate some curious interactions with you?

It depends on what comes up in South China. I, for one, would love to see a democratic nation there aligned to the Federation for Berlin Wall parallels. Even if it's non-aligned or even part of the Communist bloc, I can see some really cool things arising from interactions there.

[The Rio Grande River Basin]

I’m still wondering what Iran can do. I’ve given Iran decent power projection abilities, but an army that’s falling to bits. So probably economic and diplomatic shenanigans.

[Benuty]

I’m still wondering what Iran can do. I’ve given Iran decent power projection abilities, but an army that’s falling to bits. So probably economic and diplomatic shenanigans.

Intelligence shenanigans are always fun.

[The Rio Grande River Basin]

I’m still wondering what Iran can do. I’ve given Iran decent power projection abilities, but an army that’s falling to bits. So probably economic and diplomatic shenanigans.

Intelligence shenanigans are always fun.

It’s Iran, currently suffering a ridiculous number of issues, whilst foreign intelligence is quite low on priorities.

[Benuty]

Intelligence shenanigans are always fun.

It’s Iran, currently suffering a ridiculous number of issues, whilst foreign intelligence is quite low on priorities.

That's a problem that needs to be rectified. Poor intelligence capabilities is basically an open invitation for some treasonous activities. Case in point how the Shah got wrecked by Britain and the Soviet Union in real life.

[The Rio Grande River Basin]

It’s Iran, currently suffering a ridiculous number of issues, whilst foreign intelligence is quite low on priorities.

That's a problem that needs to be rectified. Poor intelligence capabilities is basically an open invitation for some treasonous activities. Case in point how the Shah got wrecked by Britain and the Soviet Union in real life.

Yeah…the thing is that no-one wants to take down the drastically unstable Iranian Empire for fear of the possible consequences:
1. It fails and you’ve pissed off Iran to the point of aligning with the other faction. The Iran which holds half of the oil that you can get.
2. Iran destabilises. Congrats. You have a pile of warlords, some with nukes.
3. It works, and the remaining loyalists blow shit up. By blow shit up, I mean nuke Europe.

[Benuty]

That's a problem that needs to be rectified. Poor intelligence capabilities is basically an open invitation for some treasonous activities. Case in point how the Shah got wrecked by Britain and the Soviet Union in real life.

Yeah…the thing is that no-one wants to take down the drastically unstable Iranian Empire for fear of the possible consequences:
1. It fails and you’ve pissed off Iran to the point of aligning with the other faction. The Iran which holds half of the oil that you can get.
2. Iran destabilises. Congrats. You have a pile of warlords, some with nukes.
3. It works, and the remaining loyalists blow shit up. By blow shit up, I mean nuke Europe.

Honestly for my country the third option sounds like ironic justice. Nevertheless people screw with affairs that backfire all the time (The French giving support to the Ayatollah thus allowing him to hijack the revolution).

[The Rio Grande River Basin]

Yeah…the thing is that no-one wants to take down the drastically unstable Iranian Empire for fear of the possible consequences:
1. It fails and you’ve pissed off Iran to the point of aligning with the other faction. The Iran which holds half of the oil that you can get.
2. Iran destabilises. Congrats. You have a pile of warlords, some with nukes.
3. It works, and the remaining loyalists blow shit up. By blow shit up, I mean nuke Europe.

Honestly for my country the third option sounds like ironic justice. Nevertheless people screw with affairs that backfire all the time (The French giving support to the Ayatollah thus allowing him to hijack the revolution).

Typically not when the distinct possibility of being nuked, being choked (oil-wise), or handing the opposition a pretty powerful ally on a silver platter.

[Catalaonia]

So am I allowed to play as the Pacific States?

[Sao Nova Europa]

So am I allowed to play as the Pacific States?

Yes.

[Badassistanian]

So am I allowed to play as the Pacific States?

Yes.

Am I good for Colombia?

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

That's a problem that needs to be rectified. Poor intelligence capabilities is basically an open invitation for some treasonous activities. Case in point how the Shah got wrecked by Britain and the Soviet Union in real life.

Yeah…the thing is that no-one wants to take down the drastically unstable Iranian Empire for fear of the possible consequences:
1. It fails and you’ve pissed off Iran to the point of aligning with the other faction. The Iran which holds half of the oil that you can get.
2. Iran destabilises. Congrats. You have a pile of warlords, some with nukes.
3. It works, and the remaining loyalists blow shit up. By blow shit up, I mean nuke Europe.

I thought you said many of Iran’s territories were already destabilised, as a way to balance its power.

[Theyra]

Kind of curious what the USRs stance is on Southern China? Like I'm surprised they stopped their advance. Wonder if that might generate some curious interactions with you?

It depends on what comes up in South China. I, for one, would love to see a democratic nation there aligned to the Federation for Berlin Wall parallels. Even if it's non-aligned or even part of the Communist bloc, I can see some really cool things arising from interactions there.

I did have an idea for a nation in Southern China, only the nation would have been based in Vietnam and control both Southern China and mainland Southeast Asia. I might consider changing reservations and change thinks but I need to think about that.

[Sao Nova Europa]

I updated the reservation roster. If your nation is not on the list, reply and I will add it.

[Sao Nova Europa]

Sao, should we have a discord?

Also I wanted to ask; could we have a tripolar world, with the Capitalists, the Communists and a non-aligned bloc?

While there can be non-aligned countries, the world is clearly bipolar here like irl Cold War to keep with the setting

[Dragos Bee]

For final assurances I'm not going to arbitrarily pick which side coups Willy Brandt. I'm thinking a straw poll will determine the victor when the coup event pops up given the extremism of one of the factions involved. I do not want people thinking they don't have a say.

Thank God.