Mass Effect: Embers [Complete]

[Kandex]

Alright, my app is complete, I think.

I have to ask though:
1. Will I get to do a retropost for the first month.
2. If so, do I get to start building in January with the resource outputs, or is there no basically building if the Raloi have no stockpile left after buying the initial products.
3. Since Colony ships are Heavy Vessels, do they require Military Shipyards to build and can't be built in normal shipyards? If so, I'm going to replace an Urban Area and a Fuel Depot with a Colony Ship in my initial build.

[Grand Phyrexia]

Track

[G-Tech Corporation]

Alright, my app is complete, I think.

I have to ask though:
1. Will I get to do a retropost for the first month.
2. If so, do I get to start building in January with the resource outputs, or is there no basically building if the Raloi have no stockpile left after buying the initial products.
3. Since Colony ships are Heavy Vessels, do they require Military Shipyards to build and can't be built in normal shipyards? If so, I'm going to replace an Urban Area and a Fuel Depot with a Colony Ship in my initial build.

Certainly.

Your pre-purchased infrastructure will produce resources at the beginning of January, so you'll be able to use those resources for construction 'as soon as the RP starts', as it were.

They do, yep. A Colony Ship can be a good investment, but remember the bootstrap effect.

[G-Tech Corporation]

Headsup for the lads, by the by - aiming for an update in ~10 hours, so get those posts in.

[Grand Phyrexia]

Hi G looks like your giving this another go

[G-Tech Corporation]

Hi G looks like your giving this another go

'swoirtenly. As sure as there's sun and tides, old concepts never truly die.

[Grand Phyrexia]

Hi G looks like your giving this another go

'swoirtenly. As sure as there's sun and tides, old concepts never truly die.

Mmmm poetry

Well it looks all the major roles have been filled this time around

[Ovstylap]

'swoirtenly. As sure as there's sun and tides, old concepts never truly die.

Mmmm poetry

Well it looks all the major roles have been filled this time around

Ah but the Volus, now there's a race that could be great to fill the spot of.
Sincerely, the Turians.

Alright, my app is complete, I think.

I have to ask though:
1. Will I get to do a retropost for the first month.
2. If so, do I get to start building in January with the resource outputs, or is there no basically building if the Raloi have no stockpile left after buying the initial products.
3. Since Colony ships are Heavy Vessels, do they require Military Shipyards to build and can't be built in normal shipyards? If so, I'm going to replace an Urban Area and a Fuel Depot with a Colony Ship in my initial build.

Certainly.

Your pre-purchased infrastructure will produce resources at the beginning of January, so you'll be able to use those resources for construction 'as soon as the RP starts', as it were.

They do, yep. A Colony Ship can be a good investment, but remember the bootstrap effect.

How would you define the bootstrap effect in this context, I'm only familiar with the vagaries of company mergers etc here.

[Kinistian]

Question G why can a barren moon hold more infrastructure than a barren world

Also can we reclassify Mars? In the wiki it has a population of more than 3 million people and was candidate for terra forming .

[Grand Phyrexia]

Mmmm poetry

Well it looks all the major roles have been filled this time around

Ah but the Volus, now there's a race that could be great to fill the spot of.
Sincerely, the Turians.

Certainly.

Your pre-purchased infrastructure will produce resources at the beginning of January, so you'll be able to use those resources for construction 'as soon as the RP starts', as it were.

They do, yep. A Colony Ship can be a good investment, but remember the bootstrap effect.

How would you define the bootstrap effect in this context, I'm only familiar with the vagaries of company mergers etc here.

There doesn’t appear to be a Volus this time around. I assumed they were extinct or were absorbed by the Turians.

[The Epic Notepad of GrangerAirstrike]

I'm thinking about introducing a named Vorcha, and probably putting a bit of attention on the under-construction Frigates and their to-be crew in a Frivolity post potentially. Could be interesting

[Ovstylap]

Ah but the Volus, now there's a race that could be great to fill the spot of.
Sincerely, the Turians.

There doesn’t appear to be a Volus this time around. I assumed they were extinct or were absorbed by the Turians.

If you submit an app of any of the races or polities not already present in the OOC, I am pretty sure that G will draw up your pros and cons for you, that's how the custom factions got in, and got their perks.

[Grand Phyrexia]

If you submit an app of any of the races or polities not already present in the OOC, I am pretty sure that G will draw up your pros and cons for you, that's how the custom factions got in, and got their perks.

….. HEY G! If I’m Volus can I have perks that help with the new economy while limiting military? I want to use the Volus to help rebuild the galaxy just a little bit faster:)

[Kandex]

Alright, my app is complete, I think.

I have to ask though:
1. Will I get to do a retropost for the first month.
2. If so, do I get to start building in January with the resource outputs, or is there no basically building if the Raloi have no stockpile left after buying the initial products.
3. Since Colony ships are Heavy Vessels, do they require Military Shipyards to build and can't be built in normal shipyards? If so, I'm going to replace an Urban Area and a Fuel Depot with a Colony Ship in my initial build.

Certainly.

Your pre-purchased infrastructure will produce resources at the beginning of January, so you'll be able to use those resources for construction 'as soon as the RP starts', as it were.

They do, yep. A Colony Ship can be a good investment, but remember the bootstrap effect.

Alright, thanks! I've thought of the bootstrap effect, but estimate that in the first few months, I'll quickly run into a bottleneck that leads me burn pretty much the entire time my Reclaimers advantage is active waiting to finally be able to build a colony ship if I don't already have one, while being forced to pay through the nose for orbital structures and space stations due to my technological backwater disadvantage in the meantime if I want to build anything in that time.

[Ovstylap]

Question G why can a barren moon hold more infrastructure than a barren world

Also can we reclassify Mars? In the wiki it has a population of more than 3 million people and was candidate for terra forming .

I asked the first question previously, and it is to do with the gravity wells. It is prohibitively more expensive to build infrastructure and transport resources into orbit from a spacebody with higher mass, than it is to do it from one of its satellites.

Like how it would take less fuel to launch from the Moon, than it would to launch from Earth.

On the second question, OP's discretion but I would imagine it's a similar case for you as it was for me with Digeris, with them being Terran worlds only.

[Kandex]

Hmm, I think I'm going to make some significant changes on my starting buildings.

[Grand Phyrexia]

Hmmm here is a summary of the Volus government, they pay taxes to the Turians lol

[G-Tech Corporation]

How would you define the bootstrap effect in this context, I'm only familiar with the vagaries of company mergers etc here.

Super simple - non-producing assets aren't necessarily a wise investment for initial funds, because they are non-producing. If I have a Dreadnought instead of an Urban Area, that Urban Area is going to produce hundreds of Credits over the course of the RP, which can be used to build further Urban Areas, etc. The Dreadnought, on the other hand, for most folks won't add anything to their economy. So diverting resources to a military is a balancing act, since you're strangling your economy (but a losing war will probably strangle it even more thoroughly).

I'm thinking about introducing a named Vorcha, and probably putting a bit of attention on the under-construction Frigates and their to-be crew in a Frivolity post potentially. Could be interesting

Named Vorcha are exactly the type of characters I want to see out of Heshtok

….. HEY G! If I’m Volus can I have perks that help with the new economy while limiting military? I want to use the Volus to help rebuild the galaxy just a little bit faster:)

Certainly. The Volus are actually exactly who I am looking to fill.

Alright, thanks! I've thought of the bootstrap effect, but estimate that in the first few months, I'll quickly run into a bottleneck that leads me burn pretty much the entire time my Reclaimers advantage is active waiting to finally be able to build a colony ship if I don't already have one, while being forced to pay through the nose for orbital structures and space stations due to my technological backwater disadvantage in the meantime if I want to build anything in that time.

Fair enough! I made much the same calculation for the Geth, so I can hardly criticize you coming to the same conclusion if you have a plan for that colony ship.

I asked the first question previously, and it is to do with the gravity wells. It is prohibitively more expensive to build infrastructure and transport resources into orbit from a spacebody with higher mass, than it is to do it from one of its satellites.

Like how it would take less fuel to launch from the Moon, than it would to launch from Earth.

Quite right. That, plus the relative economic viability of natural satellites is enhanced by their proximity to other worlds. Shipping goods from Luna to the Earth, for instance, can be far more cost-efficient than shipping them to Thessia.

On the second question, OP's discretion but I would imagine it's a similar case for you as it was for me with Digeris, with them being Terran worlds only.

It really depends - in Mars' case, we're talking about a world with effectively no ability to support a biosphere at present, which pretty much disqualifies it from Hostile or Terran. If someone were to terraform it we could certainly upgrade her classification, but generally speaking Mars is too small, too cold, and lacks amicable conditions to give her a status better than 'Barren', humanity's colonization notwithstanding.

[Bentus]

Super simple - non-producing assets aren't necessarily a wise investment for initial funds, because they are non-producing. If I have a Dreadnought instead of an Urban Area, that Urban Area is going to produce hundreds of Credits over the course of the RP, which can be used to build further Urban Areas, etc. The Dreadnought, on the other hand, for most folks won't add anything to their economy. So diverting resources to a military is a balancing act, since you're strangling your economy (but a losing war will probably strangle it even more thoroughly).

There is a small part of me that regrets not going for a militaristic faction and just dumping as much of my starting credits into an early fleet as I could get away with.

I would have been crushed by those in possession of more than a single braincell and a functional economy, but by jove it would have been a fun romp.

[Grand Phyrexia]

Sounds like Stellaris multiplayer

[Kandex]

I think I've finished editing my app. I assumed there's no limi to the number of mining ships inside of a system, right?

[Turkducken]

alright sorry for the tardiness, a full load of college is a lot

[G-Tech Corporation]

I think I've finished editing my app. I assumed there's no limi to the number of mining ships inside of a system, right?

There is not, nope, though keep in mind they do tend to die quickly if attacked, as compared to planetary installations.

alright sorry for the tardiness, a full load of college is a lot

Glad to hear you are still with us!

[Turkducken]

Maybe it'll be a bit fast paced, but here's hoping the Krogan get to speak to whatever remains of the Council and do diplomacy.

[G-Tech Corporation]

Maybe it'll be a bit fast paced, but here's hoping the Krogan get to speak to whatever remains of the Council and do diplomacy.

Sounds like fun to me. I'm personally considering whether or not a virtual Geth presence in Sol could be justifiable.