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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Sun Oct 30, 2022 2:13 am

Diarcesia wrote:
Ralnis wrote:It would be cool to have some extrasolars that won't get curbstomped by Earth factions.

I'm more than happy to explore this concept. What do you have in mind for this? I guess it boils down to how much stuff the major Earth megacorps can bring to extrasolar systems via jump drives.


Foremost, you won’t have to worry about competition as an extrasolar for quite some time. Everyone is going to need to tech up a bit before they can do more than move a few scientists or envoys between solar systems - right now Earth is still struggling to return to the state compared to our own time IRL, as both corporations and countries have been rather preoccupied with the degrading state of the planet and continued natural and manmade disasters.

Let’s see. As for Diarcesia, I think the only major changes we’d have to make to your backstory are origin and scale. Convergent evolution with Earthborn humans isn’t -super- probable, so the easiest solution there is the same origin as other extrasolars: a lost sleeper colony ship. The scale, also, relatively simple fix. Instead of a globe-spanning civilization with colonies on other habitable worlds, Diarcesia’s holdings would be scaled back to one largely populated region of their homeworld, as they labor to tame and survive on the less-than-amicable biosphere their ancestors discovered.
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Sun Oct 30, 2022 2:14 am

The Empire of Tau wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:You sure you don’t want an Espionage or Black Ops Expertise?

I never understood how Espionage worked in CivBE.


Heh, it was never the most fleshed-out system. Hence the jest. But hey, if you want to workshop a different expertise, I’m all ears.
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Postby The Empire of Tau » Sun Oct 30, 2022 2:18 am

G-Tech Corporation wrote:Heh, it was never the most fleshed-out system. Hence the jest. But hey, if you want to workshop a different expertise, I’m all ears.

I'll think about it. Also, are there NPC powers?

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Postby Ralnis » Sun Oct 30, 2022 2:33 am

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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Sun Oct 30, 2022 2:33 am

The Empire of Tau wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:Heh, it was never the most fleshed-out system. Hence the jest. But hey, if you want to workshop a different expertise, I’m all ears.

I'll think about it. Also, are there NPC powers?


If by that you mean, will there be local warlords in NPC regions? Yep! But not ones that actively develop or engage with players, no.
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Postby The Empire of Tau » Sun Oct 30, 2022 2:42 am

When might we see an IC and are there spooky/alien stuff in space?

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Postby M-101 » Sun Oct 30, 2022 2:49 am

23 October??? How on earth I didn't notice this thread existed??? Interesting concept
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Sun Oct 30, 2022 5:45 am

The Empire of Tau wrote:When might we see an IC and are there spooky/alien stuff in space?


I’d like to get at least another 2-3 powers before we fire up the IC, so hopefully only a day or two. As for aliens, you’ll just have to wait and see.
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Postby The GAmeTopians » Sun Oct 30, 2022 8:11 am

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
The Empire of Tau wrote:When might we see an IC and are there spooky/alien stuff in space?


I’d like to get at least another 2-3 powers before we fire up the IC, so hopefully only a day or two. As for aliens, you’ll just have to wait and see.

I was promised Lazarian CyberTexas, so there’s that.
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Sun Oct 30, 2022 10:08 am

The GAmeTopians wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
I’d like to get at least another 2-3 powers before we fire up the IC, so hopefully only a day or two. As for aliens, you’ll just have to wait and see.

I was promised Lazarian CyberTexas, so there’s that.


Aye, I’m looking forward to not!Dixie.
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Postby Ralnis » Sun Oct 30, 2022 4:44 pm

So how far can this jumpdrive reach in terms of LYs?
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Postby Cybernetic Socialist Republics » Sun Oct 30, 2022 4:57 pm

WIP Major Croporation

Corporation Application
Name: New Jerusalem Cooperative
Operating Base: Western Europe
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Corporation Expertise: Orbital Mechanics
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Postby Lazarian » Sun Oct 30, 2022 5:40 pm

The GAmeTopians wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
I’d like to get at least another 2-3 powers before we fire up the IC, so hopefully only a day or two. As for aliens, you’ll just have to wait and see.

I was promised Lazarian CyberTexas, so there’s that.

And you’ll get CyberTexas! Once I get back into civilization, anyways. Still puttering around in the woods rn.

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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Sun Oct 30, 2022 5:41 pm

Ralnis wrote:So how far can this jumpdrive reach in terms of LYs?


In pure theory? Infinity. But the energy requirements increase logarithmically as they pass through gravity wells, so they’re more or less best suited for jumping from system outskirt to system outskirt. Trying to punch across a parsec or galaxy and accidentally passing through a planet or star will likely dump you out of FTL into the point-mass of that planet or star with… deleterious results… for the traveler.
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Sun Oct 30, 2022 5:52 pm

Cybernetic Socialist Republics wrote:WIP Major Corporation to be edited here.


Welcome! Looking forward to it.
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Postby Ralnis » Sun Oct 30, 2022 6:23 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Ralnis wrote:So how far can this jumpdrive reach in terms of LYs?


In pure theory? Infinity. But the energy requirements increase logarithmically as they pass through gravity wells, so they’re more or less best suited for jumping from system outskirt to system outskirt. Trying to punch across a parsec or galaxy and accidentally passing through a planet or star will likely dump you out of FTL into the point-mass of that planet or star with… deleterious results… for the traveler.

Ok, so like Star Trek mixed with Mass Effect? If anything, having some interceptor tech could help against the corps. Or start trying to mimic IoM shipbuilding doctrines.
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Postby Diarcesia » Sun Oct 30, 2022 7:14 pm

Power Application
Name: The Planetary Union of Montefaune
Territorial Holdings: Montefaune (Extrasolar)
Leader Name: President Veronique Leduc
Brief History: The Planetary Union of Montefaune was founded on the ideal of peaceful cooperation amongst the colonists that arrived from Earth via sleeper ships. Despite facing many challenges, it has remained a beacon of cooperation for over two centuries. However, times are changing. Up to the present, they maintain no military. They had no need for it, and their closest equivalent's most dangerous assignments were warding off wild creatures. As for diplomacy and trade, they, as a planet, were an autarky: they somehow lost communication with off-world humanity. This lost link was reestablished, and almost everyone felt the proverbial stellar winds changing. Earth, the cradle of humanity, is now an arena where everyone is left to fend for themselves. They fear that like the primitive natives of a continent discovered a long time ago in the age of sail, they will be swept aside to irrelevance or even extinction. The Montefauneans needed to adjust to the shock therapy forced into them. What the outcome would look like is up to them.
Corporate Policies: The PUM's legislation is designed with the anticipation that multiple corporations, each with its own purpose and area of activity, will take interest in the planet and its resources. The Union Government administers the planetary infrastructure and provides basic services to all citizens. Corporations can supplement in exchange by paying a tax rate of 25% on all profit derived from activities within the Union territory.

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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Sun Oct 30, 2022 7:18 pm

Diarcesia wrote:Power Application
Name: The Planetary Union of Montefaune
Territorial Holdings: Montefaune (Extrasolar)
Leader Name: President Veronique Leduc
Brief History: The Planetary Union of Montefaune was founded on the ideal of peaceful cooperation amongst the colonists that arrived from Earth via sleeper ships. Despite facing many challenges, it has remained a beacon of cooperation for over two centuries. However, times are changing. Up to the present, they maintain no military. They had no need for it, and their closest equivalent's most dangerous assignments were warding off wild creatures. As for diplomacy and trade, they, as a planet, were an autarky: they somehow lost communication with off-world humanity. This lost link was reestablished, and almost everyone felt the proverbial stellar winds changing. Earth, the cradle of humanity, is now an arena where everyone is left to fend for themselves. They fear that like the primitive natives of a continent discovered a long time ago in the age of sail, they will be swept aside to irrelevance or even extinction. The Montefauneans needed to adjust to the shock therapy forced into them. What the outcome would look like is up to them.
Corporate Policies: The PUM's legislation is designed with the anticipation that multiple corporations, each with its own purpose and area of activity, will take interest in the planet and its resources. The Union Government administers the planetary infrastructure and provides basic services to all citizens. Corporations can supplement in exchange by paying a tax rate of 25% on all profit derived from activities within the Union territory.


Looks good to me. A minor edit might be the two centuries bit - that would imply a sleeper ship departing in the 1920s. But that’s a minor quibble. Happily accepted.
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Postby Diarcesia » Sun Oct 30, 2022 7:20 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Diarcesia wrote:Power Application
Name: The Planetary Union of Montefaune
Territorial Holdings: Montefaune (Extrasolar)
Leader Name: President Veronique Leduc
Brief History: The Planetary Union of Montefaune was founded on the ideal of peaceful cooperation amongst the colonists that arrived from Earth via sleeper ships. Despite facing many challenges, it has remained a beacon of cooperation for over two centuries. However, times are changing. Up to the present, they maintain no military. They had no need for it, and their closest equivalent's most dangerous assignments were warding off wild creatures. As for diplomacy and trade, they, as a planet, were an autarky: they somehow lost communication with off-world humanity. This lost link was reestablished, and almost everyone felt the proverbial stellar winds changing. Earth, the cradle of humanity, is now an arena where everyone is left to fend for themselves. They fear that like the primitive natives of a continent discovered a long time ago in the age of sail, they will be swept aside to irrelevance or even extinction. The Montefauneans needed to adjust to the shock therapy forced into them. What the outcome would look like is up to them.
Corporate Policies: The PUM's legislation is designed with the anticipation that multiple corporations, each with its own purpose and area of activity, will take interest in the planet and its resources. The Union Government administers the planetary infrastructure and provides basic services to all citizens. Corporations can supplement in exchange by paying a tax rate of 25% on all profit derived from activities within the Union territory.


Looks good to me. A minor edit might be the two centuries bit - that would imply a sleeper ship departing in the 1920s. But that’s a minor quibble. Happily accepted.

What would be a more sensible year? My understanding of the intro is that humanity is colonizing until 1920.

Yeah, I know. What void-addled monkey cares about space any more? We gave up on that almost two centuries ago, back when it turned out mining the asteroids was too expensive, and as the public eye saw only rock and dust beyond our atmosphere. But the Jumpdrive changes that calculus. Dump a nuclear reactor's output into a spacecraft for a day, and you can be in the asteroid belt sucking up precious metals by the cargo hold that evening. Spend a morning over a solar cluster cluster, and by teatime you can be in orbit over Mars dumping poor peons into the sparse atmosphere to try and eke out a living beyond our overcrowded exhausted ball of blue. Overcrowding? Opportunity! Vaporize enough heavy water to float a battleship, and you'll find yourself in the outermost sheathe of Jupiter looking for rare gases to run the next generation of fusion experiments.

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Postby Ralnis » Sun Oct 30, 2022 7:38 pm

G, please ban me. I keep saying stupid shit.
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Sun Oct 30, 2022 8:00 pm

Diarcesia wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Looks good to me. A minor edit might be the two centuries bit - that would imply a sleeper ship departing in the 1920s. But that’s a minor quibble. Happily accepted.

What would be a more sensible year? My understanding of the intro is that humanity is colonizing until 1920.

Yeah, I know. What void-addled monkey cares about space any more? We gave up on that almost two centuries ago, back when it turned out mining the asteroids was too expensive, and as the public eye saw only rock and dust beyond our atmosphere. But the Jumpdrive changes that calculus. Dump a nuclear reactor's output into a spacecraft for a day, and you can be in the asteroid belt sucking up precious metals by the cargo hold that evening. Spend a morning over a solar cluster cluster, and by teatime you can be in orbit over Mars dumping poor peons into the sparse atmosphere to try and eke out a living beyond our overcrowded exhausted ball of blue. Overcrowding? Opportunity! Vaporize enough heavy water to float a battleship, and you'll find yourself in the outermost sheathe of Jupiter looking for rare gases to run the next generation of fusion experiments.


Pound for pound, the 2030s or 2040s. This is a RP built off of an effectively IRL setting; the “we gave up on space” is editorial commentary on mankind’s far more limited ambitions in the modern day. Your sleeper ship was no doubt launched as a corporate prestige piece by an eccentric like Musk, or a ruinous political boondoggle.
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Postby Diarcesia » Sun Oct 30, 2022 8:40 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Diarcesia wrote:What would be a more sensible year? My understanding of the intro is that humanity is colonizing until 1920.



Pound for pound, the 2030s or 2040s. This is a RP built off of an effectively IRL setting; the “we gave up on space” is editorial commentary on mankind’s far more limited ambitions in the modern day. Your sleeper ship was no doubt launched as a corporate prestige piece by an eccentric like Musk, or a ruinous political boondoggle.

Makes sense. Thanks for the clarification!

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Postby The Empire of Tau » Sun Oct 30, 2022 11:19 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:In pure theory? Infinity. But the energy requirements increase logarithmically as they pass through gravity wells, so they’re more or less best suited for jumping from system outskirt to system outskirt. Trying to punch across a parsec or galaxy and accidentally passing through a planet or star will likely dump you out of FTL into the point-mass of that planet or star with… deleterious results… for the traveler.

So, our main issue is energy?

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