Strange New World (2022 Alt-Hist Geopolitical RP) - OOC

[Dragos Bee]

It would work perfectly. Having a large, powerful neighbor would be an excellent spur for Jerusalem's various peoples to put aside their differences and start building a shared society. A common enemy does wonders for national coherence. You are more than welcome to Syria.

Also: for purposes of working out my history, I assume this is a Sunni caliphate? Relevant since there are likely major populations of Shi'a and Druze in Jerusalem, which could help to explain how the republic's Muslims became more loyal to this multifaith society than to the Caliphate.

Alhamdulillah, sounds very good! I appreciate it and I look forward to being your rival And yes this is a Sunni Caliphate, that had some persecution of Druze and Shia Muslims due to rising tensions between sects in the 1500s-1600s

Want to be allies against the commies, or would you want to be another type of enemy?

[Ard alAkhua]

Alhamdulillah, sounds very good! I appreciate it and I look forward to being your rival And yes this is a Sunni Caliphate, that had some persecution of Druze and Shia Muslims due to rising tensions between sects in the 1500s-1600s

Want to be allies against the commies, or would you want to be another type of enemy?

We are interested in a tactical alliance against the commies, yes, but there will be some tensions between us as we claim the entirety of "Greater Syria" (which actually includes all of Syria, Lebanon, Israel and Jordan so our irredentism there is a cause of issues between us and Jerusalem too) but an anti-communist front is in our interests more so than irredentism in the current year

[Deblar]

Aight, I could probably move that back by a couple of years then


cope and seethe, Jacobine sympathizer /j


Noted, I can get rid of that


yeah probably

Would you be willing to consider modifying the history a bit, such that the French First Republic can correspond with OTL?

Yeah, I could do that

[Dragos Bee]

Want to be allies against the commies, or would you want to be another type of enemy?

We are interested in a tactical alliance against the commies, yes, but there will be some tensions between us as we claim the entirety of "Greater Syria" (which actually includes all of Syria, Lebanon, Israel and Jordan so our irredentism there is a cause of issues between us and Jerusalem too) but an anti-communist front is in our interests more so than irredentism in the current year

Perfect! Also, is it okay if we had a war in the 1600s or early 1700s (the Time of Troubles)?

[Ard alAkhua]

We are interested in a tactical alliance against the commies, yes, but there will be some tensions between us as we claim the entirety of "Greater Syria" (which actually includes all of Syria, Lebanon, Israel and Jordan so our irredentism there is a cause of issues between us and Jerusalem too) but an anti-communist front is in our interests more so than irredentism in the current year

Perfect! Also, is it okay if we had a war in the 1600s or early 1700s (the Time of Troubles)?

Yes that sounds good to me, what about from like 1640-1660 or thereabouts? Lore is fun lol

Also if you (and anyone else) want to cooperatively develop historical lore, feel free to PM me, thanks! Inshallah I will have my formal app ready soon, but with my region being so key to historical events and my religion making natural friends and enemies in Europe and Asia, I want to collaborate with others on this

[Khasinkonia]

Would you be willing to consider modifying the history a bit, such that the French First Republic can correspond with OTL?

Yeah, I could do that

Excellent. I’ll have the details together when my app materializes itself. I look forward to a Demilitarized Manche!

[Dragos Bee]

Perfect! Also, is it okay if we had a war in the 1600s or early 1700s (the Time of Troubles)?

Yes that sounds good to me, what about from like 1640-1660 or thereabouts? Lore is fun lol

Also if you (and anyone else) want to cooperatively develop historical lore, feel free to PM me, thanks! Inshallah I will have my formal app ready soon, but with my region being so key to historical events and my religion making natural friends and enemies in Europe and Asia, I want to collaborate with others on this

1650 - 1660, perhaps? I envisioned it as your Abbasids gathering a coalition of Muslims (including from North Africa) and piling up on the Byzies and then getting defeated after several initial victories. Is that okay?

[Ard alAkhua]

Yes that sounds good to me, what about from like 1640-1660 or thereabouts? Lore is fun lol

Also if you (and anyone else) want to cooperatively develop historical lore, feel free to PM me, thanks! Inshallah I will have my formal app ready soon, but with my region being so key to historical events and my religion making natural friends and enemies in Europe and Asia, I want to collaborate with others on this

1650 - 1660, perhaps? I envisioned it as your Abbasids gathering a coalition of Muslims (including from North Africa) and piling up on the Byzies and then getting defeated after several initial victories. Is that okay?

Sure that sounds good to me, if it would be us attacking you in an attempt to take all of Syria and to take Turkish territory and then we are repulsed and have to accept peace and no new territory but not losing territory lol

[Turkducken]

Yeah, I could do that

Excellent. I’ll have the details together when my app materializes itself. I look forward to a Demilitarized Manche!

Do you plan on leaving the Napolenic Era unchanged?

And Columbia is going to be more enthralled by France than by England, so if you could share some major changes with me that’d be nice

[Dragos Bee]

1650 - 1660, perhaps? I envisioned it as your Abbasids gathering a coalition of Muslims (including from North Africa) and piling up on the Byzies and then getting defeated after several initial victories. Is that okay?

Sure that sounds good to me, if it would be us attacking you in an attempt to take all of Syria and to take Turkish territory and then we are repulsed and have to accept peace and no new territory but not losing territory lol

Perfect; note that we want to keep Aleppo and Harran (perhaps from before the Time of Troubles), though.

[Khasinkonia]

Excellent. I’ll have the details together when my app materializes itself. I look forward to a Demilitarized Manche!

Do you plan on leaving the Napolenic Era unchanged?

And Columbia is going to be more enthralled by France than by England, so if you could share some major changes with me that’d be nice

I intend for French history to remain pretty constant, save for a more violent political history in the latter half of the 19th Century, culminating in French partisans overthrowing the Nazis à la Yugoslav partisans.

[Ard alAkhua]

Sure that sounds good to me, if it would be us attacking you in an attempt to take all of Syria and to take Turkish territory and then we are repulsed and have to accept peace and no new territory but not losing territory lol

Perfect; note that we want to keep Aleppo and Harran (perhaps from before the Time of Troubles), though.

Sounds good to me. You can have the northwest-north parts of Syria that include Aleppo and most of Idlib Province, as well as Harran (so like our borders will be pushed back from Aleppo to Harran by 20 miles or so)

[Bovad]

RESERVATION
NS Name: bovad
RP Name: ethiopia
Territory: ethiopia, somalia, eritrea

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[Dragos Bee]

Perfect; note that we want to keep Aleppo and Harran (perhaps from before the Time of Troubles), though.

Sounds good to me. You can have the northwest-north parts of Syria that include Aleppo and most of Idlib Province, as well as Harran (so like our borders will be pushed back from Aleppo to Harran by 20 miles or so)

Thanks!

RESERVATION
NS Name: bovad
RP Name: ethiopia
Territory: ethiopia, somalia, eritrea

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Wanna be allies?

[Safiloa]

RESERVATION
NS Name: Safiloa
RP Name: United Communal Republics of Ariana
Territory: Iran, Azerbaijan, Armenia, Georgia, Iraq (excluding the Syrian desert), Tajikistan, Afghanistan, Kyrgyzistan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Dagestan-Chechnya-Ossetia (in modern-day Russia), West Pakistan (only Balochistan)

Ethnic groups: Caucasian, Turkmen, Persian, Kurd, Armenians, Lurs, Balochi, Pashtun, Tajik, Hazara, Mazanderani, Uzbek, Kirghiz, Aimaq, Moghol, Tat, Ossetian, Talysh, Gilan, Goran, Persian Jew, Arab Jews, Bukharan Jew, Afghan Jew, Marsh Arabs, Semnani, Pamir, Mandaean

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[Safiloa]

Where are my communist allies?

[Union Princes]

Where are my communist allies?

So far, theres Soviet Russia and a Stalinist style France

[Quebec et Nouvelle-Angleterre]

RESERVATION
NS Name:Quebec et Nouvelle-Angleterre
RP Name:Republic of Java
Territory: Java

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[Dragos Bee]

RESERVATION
NS Name: Safiloa
RP Name: United Communal Republics of Ariana
Territory: Iran, Azerbaijan, Armenia, Georgia, Iraq (excluding the Syrian desert), Tajikistan, Afghanistan, Kyrgyzistan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Dagestan-Chechnya-Ossetia (in modern-day Russia), West Pakistan (only Balochistan)

Ethnic groups: Caucasian, Turkmen, Persian, Kurd, Armenians, Lurs, Balochi, Pashtun, Tajik, Hazara, Mazanderani, Uzbek, Kirghiz, Aimaq, Moghol, Tat, Ossetian, Talysh, Gilan, Goran, Persian Jew, Arab Jews, Bukharan Jew, Afghan Jew, Marsh Arabs, Semnani, Pamir, Mandaean

Do not remove - 2022RP

Iraq is already part of the Caliphate of Arabia.

[Arvenia]

Could we get a map soon?

[Dragos Bee]

What do you mean by Byzantines seizing Crimea in 2022? Is this a provocation for a world war?

Huh? No, I was thinking you seized Southern Crimea from my Byzies some time in your history. And we're plotting to take it back.

Repost, Union Princes.

[Union Princes]

Yes, I saw that

[Dragos Bee]

Yes, I saw that

That's good. So, would you prefer to have seized Crimea during the 1780s, or in 1946? And if the latter, how, as Byzantium fought against the Fascists but was pretty exhausted by its battle.

[Union Princes]

The historical conquest of Crimea by Russia so in 1783 or around that time period

[Dragos Bee]

The historical conquest of Crimea by Russia so in 1783 or around that time period

Understood; I'll edit my profile, then.