Lord of the Rings: The 4th Age

[Dentali]

Idea you can steal: Elf from Mirkwood learns dark magic and becomes corrupted in the ruins of Dol Guldur, learns to control and influence evil creatures such as bats and spiders.

[G-Tech Corporation]

Explain the Ring and ACCEPTED123123 lets say 100k elves

Hmm. You're the OP, of course. But a hundred thousand is probably nearly as many Elves as lived in Lindon at her height of the Second Age, and we're now pretty far into the Fourth. The Appendices note about Eriador that very few elves remained in Lindon by FoA 171, if any, and that men did not settle the region. Not crush any ideas or anything... but, well, there will definitely need to be some rebuilding of Lindon.

[Dentali]

Explain the Ring and ACCEPTED123123 lets say 100k elves

Hmm. You're the OP, of course. But a hundred thousand is probably nearly as many Elves as lived in Lindon at her height of the Second Age, and we're now pretty far into the Fourth. The Appendices note about Eriador that very few elves remained in Lindon by FoA 171, if any, and that men did not settle the region. Not crush any ideas or anything... but, well, there will definitely need to be some rebuilding of Lindon.

you are correct im trying to be fair... Lindon is also MASSIVE and 100k people is not a ton of people for that much area.


We can say 100,000 includes a bunch of men as well... Elves just 20k

[Britanania]

https://www.tolkiensociety.org/2015/11/ ... anscribed/

Am leaving this here for the benefit of others

[Ralnis]

Reserve Grey Mountains with Orcs led by a Warchief based around the Wendigo.

[Culway]

Name: Arthur Nash
Race: Hobbit
Rank: Elected King
Realm: Democratic Shires Kingdom
Objectives: keep the shires neutral
Brief Bio: Arthur is the popular Democraticly elected king, of which has a 4 week term

Realm Name: Democratic Shires Kingdom
Realm Capital: Hobbiton
Ruler: Arthur
Tier: Kingdom
Location: The Shires
Population: The Shires were 30 to 100 thousand and the Hobbits at the range of 60 to 140 thousand

If you think you can have fun with this go for it

.:.D., thanks my freund (German for friend)

[Culway]

I also forgot, erm, when will this start?

[Britanania]

I also forgot, erm, when will this start?

F.A 220 it seems

[G-Tech Corporation]

I’m loving all of these wacky concepts. Do we have any ETA on an IC?

[Sonakion]

I presume Duke is the highest possible Orc rank currently.
Should I worry about population or for Orc Chiefs does it not matter?

Nah do population. please...

Hadn't thought about it but now that you mention it, Duke makes sense as the highest for an orc right now. They were made to follow not lead... maybe consider making them an Uruk-Hai instead?

I'd imagine an orc could unite his brethren (Azog and Bolg did it) but at the moment no orc has emerged strong enough to do so. I was thinking of having a secondary character as an Istari who'd help influence my main character amongst others. As for the population I'm not very good at realistic statistics anyone have a good idea on what my population would be?

[G-Tech Corporation]

Nah do population. please...

Hadn't thought about it but now that you mention it, Duke makes sense as the highest for an orc right now. They were made to follow not lead... maybe consider making them an Uruk-Hai instead?

I'd imagine an orc could unite his brethren (Azog and Bolg did it) but at the moment no orc has emerged strong enough to do so. I was thinking of having a secondary character as an Istari who'd help influence my main character amongst others. As for the population I'm not very good at realistic statistics anyone have a good idea on what my population would be?

Perhaps the foul spirit of Saruman, a mean and petty thing struggling to persist?

[Ralnis]

I wonder if it's possible to save the Orcs of Gundabad from the Aranor/Dwarven invasion?

[Araznan]

I wonder if it's possible to save the Orcs of Gundabad from the Aranor/Dwarven invasion?

The Orcs of Gundabad would need a serious alliance to save themselves from the invasion.

It would be possible if you could gain a alliance with some other Orc factions, but would not be that realistic due to most of the remaining Orcs have gone into hiding in the mountains.

[G-Tech Corporation]

I wonder if it's possible to save the Orcs of Gundabad from the Aranor/Dwarven invasion?

Really depends on how much the Dwarves send; plenty of methods that could succeed against even an overwhelming force, but ultimate victory would be difficult against all that Durin's Folk could marshal.

[Chinniwana]

Question: Spider Nation. Would this be possible? And if not, how about just a Spider Character?

Heir to shelob or some weirdo dark wizard controlling spiders? Either way go for it

Leaning towards heir of Shelob, But your Dark wizard Idea is good. By tonight/tomorrow I should have an app up.

Debating on Mirkwood or Ephel Duath.

[Ralnis]

Heir to shelob or some weirdo dark wizard controlling spiders? Either way go for it

Leaning towards heir of Shelob, But your Dark wizard Idea is good. By tonight/tomorrow I should have an app up.

Debating on Mirkwood or Ephel Duath.

Wanna make an alliance with the wendigo orcs of the Grey Mountains?

[Chinniwana]

Leaning towards heir of Shelob, But your Dark wizard Idea is good. By tonight/tomorrow I should have an app up.

Debating on Mirkwood or Ephel Duath.

Wanna make an alliance with the wendigo orcs of the Grey Mountains?

Sure!

[Culway]

I’m waiting lol

[Chinniwana]

Name: Naezera; in Elvish she is known as Nathrano Gwathren, or the Weaver of Shadow
Race: Spider
Rank: Duchess
Realm: Ephel Dúath/The Mountains of Shadow
Objectives: Like all Spiders, Naezera is driven by an all consuming hunger. Knowing the weakness of Men and Orc who she and her brood have consumed, she plans to begin expanding her web all over Middle Earth, consuming as much as her and her kind can.
Brief Bio: One of the last children of Shelob, she barely escaped her maw. Originally nesting in Mirkwood, she would truly come to her own when she heard Hobbits had weakened her vicious mother. Seeing an opportunity, Naezera went to Ephel Dúath, and after many months, finally found her and killed her, consuming her body for herself. With her consumption satisfied for the time, and hearing the fall of Sauron, Naezera moved into her mothers old home, Torech Ungol. There, she began creating her brood. Unlike most Spiders, Naezera is interesting in that she has chosen not to consume most of her brood, as she barely survived her own mother's consumption. Because of this, Naezera's brood was able to conquer all of Ephel Dúath, making anyone remaining in Melkor terrified of the Mountains of Shadow.

With her massive brood, Naezera's hunger was satisfied by sending them on expeditions, particularly to Osgiliath and Orodruin. These cities would kill many spiders, but lose many of their own to Spiders who's only goal was to bring the prisoners back to consume safely. Though this worked for a while, Naezera's hunger, and that of her brood, has started to grow with the new Darkness. Soon her hunger will grow too great to be contained with the prisoners they have. Rather then resort to eating her brood, she will soon begin a push to start moving into new territories; expending her Web's reach, and devouring as many as she can...

Realm Name: Ephel Dúath/The Mountains of Shadow
Realm Capital: Torech Ungol; A labyrinth of tunnels under the mountains of Ephel Dúath, mostly around the Morgul Vale and Pass. Originally the lair of Shelob, it is now the home of Naezera and her most powerful Spiders.
Ruler: Naezera
Tier: Duchy
Location: The Western Mountains and Passes of Mordor; near Osgiliath and Minas Tirith in Gondor.
Population: 10,000 Spiders crawl through out the area, from the northern reaches of the ruins of Narchost, down to the river Harnen. The Spiders are especially clustered around the Morgul Vale, Morgul Pass and the Morgai Ridge; there is also a large gathering of Spiders at Durthang and the Ruins of Narchost, both being turned into massive Spider Dens. A few hundred Men and Orcs still linger in this place; remnants of the Old Empire, either hiding in fear of the new Master of the Mountains, or awaiting their doom in Spider Silk.

[Meretica]

Name: (); in Elvish she is known as Nathrano Gwathren, or the Weaver of Shadow
Race: Spider
Rank: Duchess
Realm: Ephel Dúath/The Mountains of Shadow
Objectives: Like all Spiders, () is driven by an all consuming hunger. Knowing the weakness of Men and Orc who she and her brood have consumed, she plans to begin expanding her web all over Middle Earth, consuming as much as her and her kind can.
Brief Bio: One of the last children of Shelob, she barely escaped her maw. Originally nesting in Mirkwood, she would truly come to her own when she heard Hobbits had weakened her vicious mother. Seeing an opportunity, () went to Ephel Dúath, and after many months, finally found her and killed her, consuming her body for herself. With her consumption satisfied for the time, and hearing the fall of Sauron, () invaded Minus Morgul, slaughtering the remaining followers of Sauron and claiming it as her resting place. There, she began creating her brood. Unlike most Spiders, () is interesting in that she has chosen not to consume most of her brood, as she barely survived her own mother's consumption. Because of this, ()'s brood was able to conquer all of Ephel Dúath, making anyone remaining in Melkor terrified of the Mountains of Shadow.

With her massive brood, ()'s hunger was satisfied by sending them on expeditions, particularly to Osgiliath and Orodruin. These cities would kill many spiders, but lose many of their own to Spiders who's only goal was to bring the prisoners back to consume safely. Though this worked for a while, ()'s hunger, and that of her brood, has started to grow with the new Darkness. Soon her hunger will grow too great to be contained with the prisoners they have. Rather then resort to eating her brood, she will soon begin a push to start moving into new territories; expending her Web's reach, and devouring as many as she can...

Realm Name: Ephel Dúath/The Mountains of Shadow
Realm Capital: Minus Morgul; once the Gondorian fortress Minus Ithil, and the attacking point of the forces of Sauron against Gondor, it has since become a Spider crypt, holding many Spiders, their eggs, and their entombed victims who shall soon become their meal...
Ruler: ()
Tier: Duchy
Location: The Western Mountains and Passes of Mordor; near Osgiliath and Minas Tirith in Gondor.
Population: 10,000 Spiders crawl through out the area, from the northern reaches of Narchost down to the river Harnen. The Spiders are especially clustered around Minus Morgul, the Morgul Valley and Cirith Ungol. A few hundred Men and Orcs still linger in this place; remnants of the Old Empire, either hiding in fear of the new Master of the Mountains, or awaiting their doom in Spider Silk.

WIP. Trying to think of a good name for the my character. Let me know if 10K spiders is too many.

Minas Ithil and Cirith Ungol were reclaimed by King Elessar; it was then destroyed. (Return of the King, Book 6, Ch. 5: The Steward and the King)

[Nimethel]

Name: Ciryaher Eldacar
Race: Noldor
Rank: Duke
Realm: Lindon
Objectives: Restore Lindon to a mighty kingdom
Brief Bio: A 3rd gen elf, wielder of one of the minor rings of power, the strength of the elder days is still with him, albeit lesser than the days of old

Realm Name: Lindon
Realm Capital: The Grey Havens
Ruler: Duke Ciryaher
Tier: Kingdom ig
Location: Historical boundaries of lindon
Population: Elves (probably 100,000 or 200,000)

How did the ring come into his possession? Lindon is a "Kingdom" tier.

I bumped lindon down to duchy because of so many elves leaving for valinor, it wouldn't have been as big as of old.

He went to eregion and lived there for a time, helping celebrimbor and such, and saved it when eregion fell.

[Sonakion]

I'd imagine an orc could unite his brethren (Azog and Bolg did it) but at the moment no orc has emerged strong enough to do so. I was thinking of having a secondary character as an Istari who'd help influence my main character amongst others. As for the population I'm not very good at realistic statistics anyone have a good idea on what my population would be?

Perhaps the foul spirit of Saruman, a mean and petty thing struggling to persist?

I was originally planning to make an original Wizard or now that I think about it a blue Wizard but I'm leaning towards focusing more on my cunning Orc Chief rather than a Wizard so Saruman would be perfect given how he's long past the point of no return so anything he does would be pure pettiness as you said.

[G-Tech Corporation]

Perhaps the foul spirit of Saruman, a mean and petty thing struggling to persist?

I was originally planning to make an original Wizard or now that I think about it a blue Wizard but I'm leaning towards focusing more on my cunning Orc Chief rather than a Wizard so Saruman would be perfect given how he's long past the point of no return so anything he does would be pure pettiness as you said.

Sounds logical. Whispering advice to an orc to take revenge on the world that rejected his order is probably the exact sort of mischief Saruman's spirit is still capable of getting up to.

[Chinniwana]

WIP. Trying to think of a good name for the my character. Let me know if 10K spiders is too many.

Minas Ithil and Cirith Ungol were reclaimed by King Elessar; it was then destroyed. (Return of the King, Book 6, Ch. 5: The Steward and the King)

Ah, I see. Will probably just move back into Shelob's lair then. Hopefully have my app up sooner then later.

[Chinniwana]

Name: Naezera; in Elvish she is known as Nathrano Gwathren, or the Weaver of Shadow
Race: Spider
Rank: Duchess
Realm: Ephel Dúath/The Mountains of Shadow
Objectives: Like all Spiders, Naezera is driven by an all consuming hunger. Knowing the weakness of Men and Orc who she and her brood have consumed, she plans to begin expanding her web all over Middle Earth, consuming as much as her and her kind can.
Brief Bio: One of the last children of Shelob, she barely escaped her maw. Originally nesting in Mirkwood, she would truly come to her own when she heard Hobbits had weakened her vicious mother. Seeing an opportunity, Naezera went to Ephel Dúath, and after many months, finally found her and killed her, consuming her body for herself. With her consumption satisfied for the time, and hearing the fall of Sauron, Naezera moved into her mothers old home, Torech Ungol. There, she began creating her brood. Unlike most Spiders, Naezera is interesting in that she has chosen not to consume most of her brood, as she barely survived her own mother's consumption. Because of this, Naezera's brood was able to conquer all of Ephel Dúath, making anyone remaining in Melkor terrified of the Mountains of Shadow.

With her massive brood, Naezera's hunger was satisfied by sending them on expeditions, particularly to Osgiliath and Orodruin. These cities would kill many spiders, but lose many of their own to Spiders who's only goal was to bring the prisoners back to consume safely. Though this worked for a while, Naezera's hunger, and that of her brood, has started to grow with the new Darkness. Soon her hunger will grow too great to be contained with the prisoners they have. Rather then resort to eating her brood, she will soon begin a push to start moving into new territories; expending her Web's reach, and devouring as many as she can...

Realm Name: Ephel Dúath/The Mountains of Shadow
Realm Capital: Torech Ungol; A labyrinth of tunnels under the mountains of Ephel Dúath, mostly around the Morgul Vale and Pass. Originally the lair of Shelob, it is now the home of Naezera and her most powerful Spiders.
Ruler: Naezera
Tier: Duchy
Location: The Western Mountains and Passes of Mordor; near Osgiliath and Minas Tirith in Gondor.
Population: 10,000 Spiders crawl through out the area, from the northern reaches of the ruins of Narchost, down to the river Harnen. The Spiders are especially clustered around the Morgul Vale, Morgul Pass and the Morgai Ridge; there is also a large gathering of Spiders at Durthang and the Ruins of Narchost, both being turned into massive Spider Dens. A few hundred Men and Orcs still linger in this place; remnants of the Old Empire, either hiding in fear of the new Master of the Mountains, or awaiting their doom in Spider Silk.

Fixed.