1618: Alternative Divergence [AH][OOC-OPEN]

[Tracian Empire]

Is there a list somewhere of what is already taken so I have some idea where to start?

That is why we have a list of reservation of accepted nations and a map. It will be updated to reflect the current situation shortly.

[Mersdon]

Full Nation Name: the Rus' (often referred to by historians and chronologists as the Second, or the White, Rus')

#AltDiv (Do not delete this, it is used to keep track of the apps)

Normally we encourage people to make a reservation first - but I will be reviewing your app as soon as possible.

Oops, my bad. Sorry about that.

[Tracian Empire]

Normally we encourage people to make a reservation first - but I will be reviewing your app as soon as possible.

Oops, my bad. Sorry about that.

No problem, I was under the impression that you already finished your app, so if you could just quickly copy-paste a reservation form that would be great - procedure is procedure.

But I have to say, the app looks great so far, I'm really looking forward to seeing a completed history section

[Remnants of Exilvania]

To all the European States, how would you feel, if instead of Swiss Guards, you had Mongolian/Tatar Guards?

Filthy uncivilized nonbelieving hordes, your expulsion from Europe is 3rd or 4th on the agenda of the Bohemian Throne.

[Tracian Empire]

Full Nation Name: Kingdom of Navarre

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Accepted

[Empire of Techkotal]

To all the European States, how would you feel, if instead of Swiss Guards, you had Mongolian/Tatar Guards?

Filthy uncivilized nonbelieving hordes, your expulsion from Europe is 3rd or 4th on the agenda of the Bohemian Throne.

Someone is getting delusional. We don't have the funding nor the ships necessary to go crusading against all of Europe.

[Remnants of Exilvania]

Filthy uncivilized nonbelieving hordes, your expulsion from Europe is 3rd or 4th on the agenda of the Bohemian Throne.

Someone is getting delusional. We don't have the funding nor the ships necessary to go crusading against all of Europe.

The people will flock to our banner as we drive the heathen, the infidel and the nonbelievers from the continent with purifying flame and stainless steel!

[Pasong Tirad]

Reservation

Nation Name: Kingdom of Sicily and Sardinia
Territory: Sicily, Malta and Cagliari in Sardinia
#AltDiv

Reservation accepted

Wondering if I can extend my reservation to include all of Sardinia, thanks.

[Tracian Empire]

Reservation accepted

Wondering if I can extend my reservation to include all of Sardinia, thanks.

Certainly.

You could also take more territory in southern Italy if you wish.

[Alt Div Admin]

Since we have several people working on their apps and since the reservation window is closing soon, we have made the decision to slightly alter our rules. People who are clearly working on their apps can request a final, extra 24 hours as a period of grace for their reservation. This brings the total time that a reservation can be maintained to 4 days/96 hours (two days for the basic reservation, an extra day for the WIP app, and a last day by request.)

Do keep in mind that once your app is finished, and you have notified someone in the board about it, then the timer is no longer ticking, as it's up to us to review it, and similarly, once a review is done and changes to the app are requested, there will not be an official time limit for players writing those changes (although we will remove a reservation if the player in question does not edit his app)

[Reverend Norv]

It goes without saying that I will welcome all the extra time I can get.

[Pasong Tirad]

Wondering if I can extend my reservation to include all of Sardinia, thanks.

Certainly.

You could also take more territory in southern Italy if you wish.

I'll think about it but I'd like to leave the possibility open for someone to take over southern Italy. Right now I'm ok with just Sicily, Malta and Sardinia.

[Dogutrakya]

I'd also like to request additional time since I've finished half of my app already, and I am also rather invested in this concept.

[Elsbrat]

I talked to Hindustan's player about their inclusion in this application, and hope the historical difficulties with the Uzbeks being replaced by the Crimean Tatars is okay.

Full Nation Name: Safavid Empire
Majority/Official Culture: Persian
Territorial Core: Greater Iran +. So Greater Iran plus some additional areas. Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan (Western half/Baluchistan), Iraq, Armenia, Ajerbaijan, Turkmenistan, Tajikistan, Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar, UAE, Oman
Territorial Claim: Uzbekistan, Arabia (especially the liberation of Yemen), Georgia (archaic, unrelinquished)
Capital City: Baghdad, Iraq (Winter Capital), Isfahan (Summer Capital)
Regional Capitals: Muscat (Arabia), Isfahan (Summer Capital), Quetta (Eastern Provinces),
Other Important Cities: Tabriz (important trade center), Ormuz (Maritime Silk Road)
Population: 15,297,312

Government Type: The Safavids are an absolute monarchy with an imperial bureaucracy, and also known as the Gunpowder Empire of the region. With the increase of the use of gunpowder technology, the Persian Empire under the Safavids has undergone a period of centralization, and are characterized by an increase of per capita income, population, and, lastly, territorial gains through the application of firearms for goals of territorial expansion.
Government Ideology/Policies: Imperialist
Government Focus: The Safavid Empire is focused on maintaining the stability of the nation, the continuation and expansion of trade, and the capacity to defend against military invasion by any of their neighbors.
Head of State: Shahanshah Abbas the Great, Shah of Persia, Shah of Ormuz, Shah of the Afghans (other titles include Sayyid)
Head of Government: Grand Vizier Saed Pasdar
Government Description: The Safavid dynasty rules over an imperial bureaucracy with extensive anti-fraud department procedures that place the Shah at the head of the Empire and shrines them as a proven descendant of Mohammed in absolute power in life as the head of the religious state and the state itself. Each part of the government - or Office - has a deputy that keeps records of the activities of state officials and reports it to the Shah, with the Grand Vizier/Prime Minister being the Shah’s personal deputy. Ministers and officials in government and at local levels were chosen based on merit, with extensive surveillance and the fostering of rivalries allowing the Shah to maintain absolute power.

Majority/State Religions: Shi’a Islam

Economic Description: The Safavid Empire’s hallmark is a lengthy period of stability & the revival of the Silk Road leading through Northern Iran that has led to the gunpowder empire having a powerful agricultural and trade industry, with agricultural use of fertile land vastly improved under Abbas the Great. In Afghanistan, seized mines produce gold, iron ore, copper, marble, limestone, and sandstone for use in currency or other industries while lapis lazuli, tourmalines, emeralds, and rubies serve as high value luxury goods. Opium, tea, and other valuable agricultural goods like fruits, nuts, citrus, vegetables, and a variety of roots and tubers are also produced. From abroad, Persia works with Europeans to bring their military more equipment and aid in modernizing the burgeoning gunpowder empire, spice, woolens from Europe, cottons from Gujarat, metals, coffee, and sugar. Using ports in Syria and Lebanon with thanks to the Byzantine trading apparatus, the Silk Road of Iran is able to trade in the Mediterranean with relative ease. On another hand, Safavid mercenaries offer significant income in regional wars for those who can pay well. In short, the Safavid Dynasty’s work on the economy of Persia to restore it to the economic stronghold straddling the West and the East has been successful, marking them as a major economic power. Meanwhile, they produce and export…
Major Production: Textiles, silk, Persian carpets, foodstuffs, horses, goat hair, pearls, and a spice exported to India


Army Description : The Safavid Army is split between the Shah’s standing army and the tribal Qizilbash. The standing army is broken up into 4 branches, with 18,000 Shasevans making up the most sophisticated, well-armed branch and serving the Shah personally. Elite Ghulams (slave-soldiers) number 50,000 professional soldiers with 10,000 royal bodyguards and 40,000 cavalrymen that are known to benefit from an increasing armament of firearms. Meanwhile, the Tofang-Chis number 18,000 and serve as Muskeeters. On the other hand, imported European goods and Western advisors enabled the development of an 18,000 strong traditional artillery force.

The massive tribal Qizilbash army makes up a powerful but influence-neutered section of the military that reports directly to the Shah for the first time in history, greatly increasing control over the force and after decades of rule since 1588 his control means that civil disturbances or issues promulgated by them in the past no longer exist. The Qizilbash rival the royal corps in size and have the potential to remain the most powerful and most effective part of the army, with numbers surpassing the size of the Royal Corps. Despite this, Abbas has successfully eclipsed the power of the Qizilbash in terms of the royal house, the military, and civil administration, allowing him to use their power to mount war efforts and build Iran into a military powerhouse.

The fort system of the Persian Empire paired with fine roads, well-built bridges, and infrastructure like mounted deliverers of mail and news across the Empire mean that invasions and raids are reported to local garrisons quickly. The fort system enables the defense of the Safavid dynasty’s territory, but they are also excellent places to launch assaults from. Traditionally, Baghdad - with a population of over 1.5, and sitting as the largest city in the world - is the capital in the Winter, and when that is so the 10,000 Royal Bodyguards and 18,000 Shasevans act as the City’s militia. In the summer, they act as Isfahan’s militia.
Army Weakness: The Safavid Army is reliant on imports for their more sophisticated equipment, as the Empire is not fully self-sufficient when it comes to the manufacture of firearms at the moment. The massive size and decent equipment of the Safavid Army is offset by the fact that the Qizilbash are essentially an internal, semi-autonomous armed vassal or well-armed province. The usage of slave soldiers in the Royal Corps means that similar problems to Janissaries or Mamluks could crop up, with the dangers posed by the behavior of the Ghulam being somewhat proportional to how well treated the ethnicities that they are made up of are and with the danger further amplified by the fact that there is a path to freedom for veterans and the wounded. These Ghulam are expensive, and while they are not connected to the rivals of the Shah that might be found amongst the Qizilbash, they have the potential to be a dangerous and influential political group - as is fitting of the armed representation of the “Third Force” of Circassians, Caucasians, and Georgians integrated into Persian society.
Naval Description: The Imperial Navy is made up of a large number of smaller coastal defense vessels and escort ships meant to escort their trade vessels. The primary advantage of the Imperial Number is in their capacity to defend their coasts, the Strait of Hormuz, and their trade and oust most opponents from those areas but due to their focus on this they are not capable of winning on the offense with significant naval powers and would have to play defensively. The Imperial Navy maintains what is essentially total domination over the areas it inhabits (Gulf, Straight of Hormuz) thanks to their usage of privateers.
Naval Weakness : The Safavid Empire has begun developing more extensive capacities for shipbuilding, leading them primarily to be a land power. The navy is primarily focused upon the development of sea-based trade and protecting that trade, and has undergone major development since the conquest of the Nabhanis in 1570. They are exceptionally prepared to defend their coasts, the Strait of Hormuz, and their trade, but prolonged naval conflict with better built navies is not something that would go their way. Their focus on protected trade also means that the larger surface combatants they possess are fewer than their larger vessels. The navy has the doctrine of a merchant navy, and rather than having two separate, fully-funded navies the entire navy is essentially the merchant marine and putting those ships into war disrupts the direct income from trade, thus making the nation more reliant on a mixture of private taxes and tariffs.

National Goals : To develop mining in Afghanistan (in process, 18 year project), to balance territorial desires with other needs (such the Byzantines allowing religious usage of the Temple Mount, and the need for Muslim unity meaning that activities against Georgia, Byzantine, and other, large Muslim nations means expansion is not a primary goal right now), to establish powerful merchant fleets to enable trade wide and far beyond the Silk Road of Iran. For 18 years, Afghanistan has been under the complete control of the Shah. Qizilbash, Caucasians, Circassians, and Georgians promised land in Afghanistan have allowed for control of the area to rapidly be brought under control thanks to key lands being granted to powerful Qizilbash leaders that control large scores of men bringing a sizable force to Afghanistan: further development of these lands and the resettling of the Qizilbash tribes that volunteer there is a major goal. The development of a combat-ready fleet, or even the purchase of a number of larger, foreign-built vessels is a priority.
National Issues : Raids across Safavid borders, Ethnic rebellions, power shifts between the Caucasians and Qizilbash, and Abbas’ paranoia leading to him killing his own son in 1614 are all major issues in the Safavid state. The Qizilbash politics Tensions between the settlers of Afghanistan and the locals are rising, meanwhile the state pits Pashtun tribes against each other while it works the land for its resources. This has resulted in Afghanistan being a new frontier of complicated politics that have to be carefully managed to insure that the Shah’s attempts to create rivals in Afghanistan like he did in his court to is successful. The court intrigues of Abbas are plentiful, and must be carefully tended to so that Abbas is not bitten in the arse by his own diabolical plans to maintain absolute control of everything within the Persian Empire.

History :

• 945 through 1118 - Seljuk Victory over the Abbasids - The Seljuk Empire’s rise has been astronomical, and in the Battle of Baghdad the city overrun and the Abbasid’s flee to Cairo. This leads to the Seljuk Empire gaining and maintaining control over large swaths of territory.
• 1218 - When the Khwarazmian Empire governor at Ortar doesn't confiscate goods or execute the Mongolian diplomats, this led to a tributary being formed and the Mongol Invasion never occurring.
• 1374 to 1420 - Qara Qoynlu rises in the West of the Khwarazmian Empire, leading to the start of the fracturing of the Khwarazmian state. The Khwarazmian would be left operating out of Isfahan. Under siege from Afghans, Crimeans, and the Turkomen, the Khwarazmian capitol would fall by 1401 - signifying the collapse of the Persian Empire, which wouldn’t be totally reunified until the rise of the Safavids with their unconditional victory over Aq Qoyunlu in 1505.
• 1501 - Azerbaijan, Shirvan, Dagestan, and Armenia are Ismail the First’s territories at the time.
• 1502 - Hamadan captured Ismail’s forces
• 1503 - Shiraz and Kerman fall in 1504
• 1505 - Najaf and Karbala fall to Ismail I.
• 1505 - Baghdad captured by Ismail I
• 1505 - The end of Ismail I’s conquest of Aq Qoyunlu is completed with the defeat of their forces at their last fortress, Rohada, leading to the Confederation to be replaced wholesale by the start of widespread Safavid rule thanks to the powerful Qizilbash forces utilized to seize control over the wide swathes of territory.
• 1501 through 1524 - The reign of Ismail the First would be characterized by his conquest and remaking of the territories of the former Persian Empire in his own image, reunifying Persia and beginning the history of modern Iran. Ismail’s rule would be characterized by the rise of the Twelver denomination of Shi’a Islam as the state religion of the country, seeing massive amounts of conversions throughout the Persian Empire. Dying in 1524, his successor’s state would be characterized by the establishment of an absolute monarchy.
• 1524 through 1576 - Tahmasp the First’s reign saw the establishment of Persia as an absolute monarchy. The early years of his reign saw the Qizilbash leaders in a state of civil war that lasted nearly a decade, ending eight whole years after the start of his reign in 1532. Following this, Tahmasp the First managed to assert his authority over the state and begin a long process of the centralization of the Persian Empire into a modern Imperial state that would conclude with the work of his future descendant, Abbas the First. Tahmasp the First saw military victories against the Jabrid Dynasty with them being conquered by 155 and and the Nabrahnis were conquered by 1570, bringing the Arabian frontier of the empire under their control, leading to the seizure of Muscat and the establishment of a powerful mercantile center that would kick-start the Persian economy due to the value of trade in Muscat. With the Strait of Hormuz under their control, the Persians would further develop their proud naval tradition as merchants and hire many privateers to aid in trade.
• 1576 through 1577 - Ruling for under a year due to a suspected assassination by poison, a woman named Pari Khan Khanum became what was essentially the defacto ruler of the state and positioned Ismail II on the throne of Persia. Ungrateful, he continued his father’s program of Georgians, Caucasians, and Circassians being brought to Iran to create a new layer of Persian society - a multi generational issue that would continue under future rulers, leading to local rulers, craftsmen, cattle breeders, soldiers, and more being descendants of those that had been settled in the areas. Ismail’s campaign’s in the Caucuses were successful, and this would result in them being brought completely under heel. Meanwhile, the Uzbeks were conquered. Aside from that, the Ismail the First was a Sunni sympathizer who was assassinated before his programs could succeed.
• 1578 to 1587 - Pari Khan Khanum’s reign was characterized by external threats from the Crimeans to the North, whose large-scale invasion of Khorasan rested control of Uzbekistan back to the Crimeans. Her reign would start with a power struggle with the father of the future Shah of Persia and end with a coup brought about by her half-nephew and the current ruler Abbas the First, who would ride with an army to seize control of the throne from the stubborn Pari Khan Khanum after the death of the 9 year old Shah, Ismail the Second’s son. Pari Khan Khanum’s reign saw no significant military successes, and the de facto ruler of the Persian Empire was in fact characterized by a loss of territory and to the Crimean Tatars that would only be successfully seized claimed back - save for Uzbekistan - by her successor after military failures and loss of core areas in Armenia and azerbaijan were lost.
• 1588 to 1618 - The rise of Abbas the Great was fierce and swift, as he seized control of the Persian Empire with the assistance of the person who kept him as his ward, ascending at age 16 and at some point in his reign he began a series of fierce military campaigns that successfully seized back large areas of core Persian territory from the ambitious Crimeans to the North. Abbas the Great would quickly be seen as one of the most successful leaders of Iran, with his 4 predecessors not quite reaching the level of military reform, technological advancement, or massive agricultural development of fertile land, nor did they complete the creation of the Third Force of Iranian society. He developed the ghilman system, with Circassian, Georgian, and Armenian slave-soldiers joining civil administration and the military. He successfully garnered more influence and power than the Qizilbash in all areas of the state, and regained lost provinces against the Crimeans thanks to his reforms of the Qizilbash. He did not manage to successfully seize control of Uzbekistan, but repeated military victories over the Crimeans have led to the belief that he would be capable of doing so. Following the conquest of the Afghanis, he would also showed skills of diplomacy, sealing a military alliance with the Hindustani Caliphate to the East by betrothing his daughter to the heir of the Emperor - this Safavid Princess earning a dowry given in advance composed of a large amount of elephants, and a month’s worth of production of gold, pepper, salt, and various other goods. Resettlement programs began in Baluchistan, along with natural resource efforts. Mbethrothed a Safavid Princess, and Baluchistan was the dowry from the Emperor of the time, given in advance. Included in the dowry was a large amount of elephants, and a month's worth of production of gold, pepper, salt, and various other goods. Resettlement programs began in Baluchistan, along with natural resource extraction efforts. His reign has so far been characterized by sweeping, successful changes in Iranian affairs and the tutelage of his heirs, re-establishment of the Silk Road, and the growth of Persia into a major economic power in the region. What comes next, only time will tell.

RP Sample: [spoiler]The winds above Metropolis rushed into Ursa’s ears. She could hear the heartbeat of everyone in the city, screams from someone being mugged, and a plane moving through the skies. These gifts were the blood rights of the Kryptonian race. So, it came as no surprise when she heard the sound of a car door being opened and closed - that thud universally known to people on Earth - followed by the footsteps of a taller man in dress shoes that kicked small bits and pieces of asphalt forward on what was normally a pristine road. That sound reached her before she even saw Lex Luthor, and she kept moving forward until she saw him. Until he was in front of her. She’d have to go around him now, but he seemed to want something so she waited for the familiar man to speak, and when he did he had a point but she also realized that she definitely recognized him. It dawned on her. This wasn’t the same Lex Luthor that got relieved of being Secretary-General of the United Nations, was it?

Lex Luthor, you said? Were you ever fired from a post at the United Nations due to the anti-corruption clause?” She asked. It was a simple question. Maybe to him this would make the nature of her origin clearer. Maybe it would add another unknown element to the question of “who is she, where did she come from, why is she here?”, but that was yet to be realized. Perhaps his mind would figure it out. Ursa decided that it might be best for her to keep her identity to herself for now. Guessing she was a Kryptonian Sorceress was far from an every day realization, something that was only of benefit to her.

The giant eye to her right - larger than her head, surrounded by a green energy like she was, and giving off a mix of energy signatures that would be of interest to anyone that could successfully scan it - caught an energy signature similar enough to hers that it caught Ursa’s attention disappear through one of the spectrums it could see in (dice rolled, talked to Ace). The eye shuffled through the rest of the spectrum, but it couldn’t find it. That was disappointing. Were they gone, or did they just become invisible? She was distracted by the approach of another signature, one she could hear flying through the sky directly towards her. She was covered in another layer of green energy, and adjusted her stance. She didn’t know whether or not she’d have to fight.

Ursa looked up to the sky to see someone she didn’t at all recognize. Someone new. She wasn’t sure if she had missed him in her universe, or if he just wasn’t there. It was something that was up in the air. Like a lot of the things in this universe it was just something that she wouldn’t know, and had to figure it out for herself. Ursa hovered upwards, symbolically evening the ground between Icon and her.

”Your guest…” She said, deciding to answer for herself.

... Is lost.” She finished, hovering slightly above Icon and staring him down. The eye gazed at Icon too. Ursa seemed lost, but color was coming back into her face. It was clear that whatever had brought her here was wearing off, and even more abundantly clear that she had quite the personality.

#AltDiv (Do not delete this, it is used to keep track of the apps)[/spoiler]

I'm done.

[Tracian Empire]

I'd also like to request additional time since I've finished half of my app already, and I am also rather invested in this concept.

Extension accepted

Though I would advise you and everyone still working on their apps to focus on finishing them - apps that are too large, while nice, are generally just distracting effort away from the objective of eventually posting in the IC xD

[Aegeonia]

Full Nation Name: Kingdom of Oyo
Majority/Official Culture: African, Nigerian
Territorial Core: The southern coast of Nigeria and Benin
Territorial Claim:
Some of Western Cameroon
Capital City: The City of Lagos
Population: 400,000
     
Government Type: Monarchic
Government Ideology/Policies: Expansionism
Government Focus: The Government works on building the economy, and also try’s to keep the country stable
Head of State: King Mykel
Head of Government: King Mykel
Government Description: The government is completely run by the King, and many citizens of the country do not like his rule
     
Majority/State Religion: Smahsian
Religious Description: After Thousands of years of other African tribes religions mixing together, Smahsian was created, it mainly is Egyptian like, with some other Local religions mixed in

Economic Description: The Oyoian Economy is very small, and they mostly trade with local African tribes, Trade has started with the Spanish and Portuguese Empires as they build colonies closer to Oyo, but the economy is still very small
Major Production:
Gold, Pepper, and Slaves

     
Army Description : The army consist of about 3,000 Soldiers, they mostly are just fitted with simple crossbows and shields, with some army, and have nothing too special about themselves
Army Weakness : The army is very small, and they don’t have the most
“Advanced” technology for the time
Naval Description : No National Navy (but many towns have small navy’s that defend the local area)
Naval Weakness : The navy is non existent, so it’s very weak
Further Military Description : None
     
National Goals : Fix the Economy, Gain Influence Around Africa, Not be colonized by the Europeans
National Issues : Very Poor Economy, Rather Unstable Government, Tyrant King, And European Powers are getting closer to their homeland
National Figures of Interest : None
National Ambition/Aspirations : To Expand around Africa, and become a Regional Power
     
History :

About 1.7 Million years ago, the first people came to the Nigerian Area, then they made Tribes during the Stone Age, they started farming in the Neolithic era, and they made tools during the Bronze and Iron Age, Oyo quickly became the strongest African tribe, then they made a kingdom, and soon they expanded and made cities, and started becoming more powerful.

Eventually the 1400s started and Oyo Started losing power, in 1567 King Hahn became the king, and Oyo started becoming even more weaker, then in the 1600s king Mykel became king, and Oyo became much weaker, but still very strong in the area, and that leads us to the present day
RP Sample: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=519995
     
#AltDiv (Do not delete this, it is used to keep track of the apps)

/bump

[Elsbrat]

I'd also like to request additional time since I've finished half of my app already, and I am also rather invested in this concept.

Extension accepted

Though I would advise you and everyone still working on their apps to focus on finishing them - apps that are too large, while nice, are generally just distracting effort away from the objective of eventually posting in the IC xD

*goes back to add 20 more paragraphs* /j

[Intermountain States]

/bump

Is this app some sort of a late April Fool’s joke?

[Tracian Empire]

Full Nation Name: Kingdom of Oyo

     
#AltDiv (Do not delete this, it is used to keep track of the apps)

Yeah, I am sorry, but I will have to reject this. I'm not sure if it's a serious app or not, but it's very low quality, it almost has no relation to the region the nation is in, and it's just not something that I can even think about accepting.

[Aegeonia]

Full Nation Name: Kingdom of Oyo

     
#AltDiv (Do not delete this, it is used to keep track of the apps)

Yeah, I am sorry, but I will have to reject this. I'm not sure if it's a serious app or not, but it's very low quality, it almost has no relation to the region the nation is in, and it's just not something that I can even think about accepting.

Ok, yes it is serious, and I will try to make a better one

[Tracian Empire]

Yeah, I am sorry, but I will have to reject this. I'm not sure if it's a serious app or not, but it's very low quality, it almost has no relation to the region the nation is in, and it's just not something that I can even think about accepting.

Ok, yes it is serious, and I will try to make a better one

I find it highly difficult to believe that it is serious

[Aegeonia]

Ok, yes it is serious, and I will try to make a better one

I find it highly difficult to believe that it is serious

Ok, well I’m sorry, and yes this is serious, what would you like me to change about my App so it can be more serious to you?

[Old Tyrannia]

I find it highly difficult to believe that it is serious

Ok, well I’m sorry, and yes this is serious, what would you like me to change about my App so it can be more serious to you?

I am not a member of the OP board for this particular RP, but I have been on the board for many previous incarnations of it, and have been a participant since the original Alternative Divergence. So I can speak with a certain degree of authority with regards to what it is the OP board look for in an applicant when deciding whether to accept them or not.

Let's be entirely honest about this; you do not seem to have the necessary skill or knowledge to produce a satisfactory app given that you seem to believe that what you have presented is sufficient, and that indicates that you are probably not going to have the degree of skill that would be expected for a roleplay like this. For one thing, you don't seem to have put any significant effort into any section of your app. You've offered a laughably underdeveloped history for your nation, you've put no effort into describing how the government works, you've literally made up a religion out of thin air and then failed to offer even a cursory description of it, and you haven't fleshed out your military at all. There's no clear point of departure from the original timeline for your nation concept, probably because you don't really have a nation concept- your app is so underdeveloped that it tells us nothing that would distinguish your nation from literally any other. It certainly doesn't resemble the real life Oyo culture in any way whatsoever; you don't seem to have made any kind of research into the Oyo, even a cursory look over the relative Wikipedia page. I'm fairly certain that the names that you have used aren't Yoruba, either.

The long and the short of it is, this is a fairly involved RP with fairly high expectations as to both the standard of writing and knowledge of the culture that you are playing. It's apparent from your application that you don't meet those standards in either area, and I find it hard to believe that you can produce a new app that will be of sufficient quality to change mine or anyone else's mind. If you could produce such an app, you would have already done so. But what you've produced requires far more than some editing and fleshing out to be acceptable. I'm sorry if this seems unduly harsh, but if you want to participate in Alternative Divergence, then you are going to have to go away and significantly improve your writing and brush up on your knowledge of history before coming back to us- preferably in a future iteration- with an app that tells us that you know how to RP at the level most of our players are at and that you have a sufficient knowledge of the culture you wish to play as in order to do so competently and respectfully. I don't want to judge you unfairly and I don't know if there may be factors such as English not being your first language at play here, but right now, you simply don't have the skills needed to participate in this RP. I politely ask that, for now, you leave the thread.

[Aegeonia]

Ok, well I’m sorry, and yes this is serious, what would you like me to change about my App so it can be more serious to you?

I am not a member of the OP board for this particular RP, but I have been on the board for many previous incarnations of it, and have been a participant since the original Alternative Divergence. So I can speak with a certain degree of authority with regards to what it is the OP board look for in an applicant when deciding whether to accept them or not.

Let's be entirely honest about this; you do not seem to have the necessary skill or knowledge to produce a satisfactory app given that you seem to believe that what you have presented is sufficient, and that indicates that you are probably not going to have the degree of skill that would be expected for a roleplay like this. For one thing, you don't seem to have put any significant effort into any section of your app. You've offered a laughably underdeveloped history for your nation, you've put no effort into describing how the government works, you've literally made up a religion out of thin air and then failed to offer even a cursory description of it, and you haven't fleshed out your military at all. There's no clear point of departure from the original timeline for your nation concept, probably because you don't really have a nation concept- your app is so underdeveloped that it tells us nothing that would distinguish your nation from literally any other. It certainly doesn't resemble the real life Oyo culture in any way whatsoever; you don't seem to have made any kind of research into the Oyo, even a cursory look over the relative Wikipedia page. I'm fairly certain that the names that you have used aren't Yoruba, either.

The long and the short of it is, this is a fairly involved RP with fairly high expectations as to both the standard of writing and knowledge of the culture that you are playing. It's apparent from your application that you don't meet those standards in either area, and I find it hard to believe that you can produce a new app that will be of sufficient quality to change mine or anyone else's mind. If you could produce such an app, you would have already done so. But what you've produced requires far more than some editing and fleshing out to be acceptable. I'm sorry if this seems unduly harsh, but if you want to participate in Alternative Divergence, then you are going to have to go away and significantly improve your writing and brush up on your knowledge of history before coming back to us- preferably in a future iteration- with an app that tells us that you know how to RP at the level most of our players are at and that you have a sufficient knowledge of the culture you wish to play as in order to do so competently and respectfully. I don't want to judge you unfairly and I don't know if there may be factors such as English not being your first language at play here, but right now, you simply don't have the skills needed to participate in this RP. I politely ask that, for now, you leave the thread.

While at first that felt harsh, I understand what you mean, and I will be off working on my skills, thank you for giving me advice and help, Hope I can be part of a different RP

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