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by Scandinavia21 » Mon Jun 20, 2022 6:23 pm
by Union Princes » Mon Jun 20, 2022 7:34 pm
Scandinavia21 wrote:I am switching my reservation to Spain since I can do more so if anybody wants any part of Scandinavia then feel free to take it.
by Dogutrakya » Mon Jun 20, 2022 7:41 pm
Burgenreich wrote:Dogutrakya wrote:*it's free real estate!*
Thinking if I should abandon South Africa and switch to South America instead. I'm thinking the Brazillian coast, Argentina, and Paraguay.
If you're gonna switch, consider being the third player in India. It might be a little lonesome in South America, but India already has 2 nations of its own plus British and French colonies. The region would be nice and lively.
by Union Princes » Mon Jun 20, 2022 8:33 pm
by Rodez » Mon Jun 20, 2022 8:40 pm
by Scandinavia21 » Mon Jun 20, 2022 8:42 pm
Rodez wrote:[Remove my instructions from your app, including this one]
Nation Name: The Kingdom of France
Culture(s): What is the dominant culture/ethnicity of your nation? If it's a multinational empire, what are the major ethnic groups?
Territory:
Capital City: Paris
Population: Metropolitan France - 27,000,000
French North Africa - 4,000,000
Senegal - 1,000,000
French Caribbean - 1,200,000
New France - 1,800,000 (see Khasinkonia's app)
French India - 2,500,000
*TOTAL: 37,500,000*
Government Type : Constitutional Monarchy
Head of State: King Henry VI Bourbon
Head of Government: Prime Minister Anne Robert Jacques Turgot
Government Description: The French Parliament consists of two houses; an upper house called the Assembly of Notables and the lower house, which is the Legislative Assembly. The former house, with 120 members, is designed to represent the interests of the upper aristocracy and clergy, and is a permanent version of the consultative body which French kings had occasionally called in the 16th and 17th centuries. It has little functional power except where annual budgets are concerned.
By contrast, the Legislative Assembly, with 375 seats, is meant to represent the interests of the Third Estate, or common people (although there are a few representatives from the nobility). Members are elected from all 84 departments of France, with one seat guaranteed for each department and the remainder apportioned according to population. 15 members are seated directly by the king, and are meant to ensure his voice in the body. The leader of the majority party or governing coalition becomes Prime Minister, and governs in tandem with the king. Elections must be held every four years, or otherwise when the Prime Minister loses a vote of no-confidence. The Legislative Assembly proposes and votes on all laws and budgets, and no bill may become a law of the kingdom without first passing the Assembly. The Constitution of 1766 guarantees the king a veto, but this may be overruled with a two-thirds majority (248 votes). In most other respects, the king is free to appoint his other ministers of the Conseil du Roi, but these may be removed by a majority vote in the Assembly.
Majority/State Religion : France is technically a majority Catholic state, but the peculiarities of the Gallican Church mean that its relations with Rome are poor. Making Catholicism the official state religion is an unpopular notion, since that would make the Pope the unquestionable head of religion in France, which paradoxically would challenge the authority of the Gallican bishops, who for all practical purposes have complete control of Catholicism in France. Therefore, France is in the peculiar position of being a secular monarchy by omission, and yet its religious affairs are dominated by the Gallican strand of Catholicism, which some observers consider to be its own separate church.
Economic Description: France is still an agrarian behemoth in 1780, although the reforms of the earlier Bourbon kings have placed it in a better position. The old regional taxes, imposts, and tolls have been eliminated in favor of a streamlined national system, and tax farming is a thing of the past. Most, though not all, of the seigneurial privileges that the nobility held over the peasantry have been done away with (such as control of the local bailiff). This is not to say that the peasants are not still mostly poor, but the situation for freeholders has improved, especially since the crown seized the estates of many Catholic loyalist nobles and clergymen after the Second Fronde. Some of this land was given to nobles allied to the crown, but much of it was also redistributed to nearby peasants.
French industry is growing, but still lags behind that of Britain. Shipbuilding is the major employer in Marseille and the coast of French Algeria, while coal from Ming helps to feed the handful of iron foundries across the country. Lyon is regarded as the industrial center of France, with its silk mills, printing houses, and emerging banking industry.
The crown depends on its network of overseas colonies for significant revenues. Algeria is the most important of these, but the Caribbean (sugar), Senegal (gold, ivory, slaves), Pondicherry (spices, cotton, gems) all play roles in the French economy. Just as important is the French presence in Ming, embodied by Nanjing's French Quarter, which serves as an entrepot for all the commodities of Asia.
Development: Pre-industrialized. Europe is on the precipice of industrialization, so no country is fully industrialized. France has significant manufactories in and around Paris, Lyon and Marseille, but the country in between them remains overwhelmingly rural.
Army Description: The French army is traditionally the envy of Europe, although it may be overshadowed now with the unification of Germany. It has relatively high standards for morale and discipline, and the War Ministry works hard to ensure that the supply problems of the Seven Years' War will not occur on the same scale again. Further, several ugly defeats suffered during that war have prompted the crown to remove the restrictions the promotion of commoners (except for Marshal of France) in a bid to have talent rise through the ranks.
Army Weakness: Some regiments suffer supply problems due to the small number of French foundries. The crown also holds more than a few officers suspect because of their "loyalist" Catholic sympathies. Although hardly a majority of army officers, any purge of such men is sure to hurt the army's cohesion to some degree. France must also worry about garrisoning its varied and distant colonies with at least some regular troops, in the event of colonial wars or uprisings.
Naval Description: The French Navy acquitted itself well in the last war, and was largely responsible for keeping the French colonial empire together in one piece, though it paid a grievous price for doing so. The last fifteen years have been spent rebuilding the force, with a new recognition that it will probably always be inferior to the British, despite being one of the strongest navies in Europe, if not definitely the second-strongest. Naval thinkers have tended towards a preference for lighter, faster ships, both to cover the vast distances between colonies and to better facilitate commerce raiding.
Naval Weakness: The French Navy will always play second fiddle to the army. The geographic position of France and the unification of Germany make this inevitable. There is no way that the admirals can secure equal or greater funding than the army, and so they will have to do more with less, as usual. Although French naval officers have a reputation for discipline and bravery under fire, the same problems with the loyalties of ultra-Catholics that plague the army, also haunt the navy. Similarly, the necessity for an Indian Squadron, Caribbean Squadron, African Squadron, Mediterranean Squadron (the largest) and the Atlantic Squadron mean that France's assets are far-flung, and need to be concentrated more to be truly deadly in a peer conflict.
National Goals: Develop Algerian and Indian possessions and trade with Ming, make France the premier power of the Mediterranean, constrain Germany, industrialize the country, resolve religious questions
National Issues: Papal loyalists: France has three broad religious groups: the Huguenots, Gallican Catholics, and traditional or "loyalist" Catholics. While the first two have largely bought into the Bourbon regime, the last makes significant trouble for the crown, especially where they predominate in northwestern France. The crown may soon have to decide whether it wants to reach an accommodation with the Catholics who wish for the country to return completely to the Roman fold - or move to cut them out of power forever.
Trouble in New France: I only have a rough idea of what Khasinkonia has planned, so I will refer you to his app here.
Corsicans be Like: The French conquest of Corsica only took place in 1769. Eleven years later, the government's control of the island is spotty. Nationalist guerrillas keep up an on-again, off-again campaign from the hills that hinders tax collection and other efforts to bring the newest department fully into the fold. The Army will have to be sent in to crush them for good, and immediately. This is the first order of business for France in 1780.
Britain or Germany?: With German unification under the aegis of Prussia, France now feels hemmed in from the north as well as the east. The recognition that France likely cannot counter both has led to a lively debate among the notaries of French diplomacy - should France make nice with the new state in order to isolate Britain, or should it do the unthinkable, and approach its traditional rival in the hopes that they can constrain the abomination of a united Germany?
History:On May 14th, 1610, a Catholic fanatic named François Ravaillac attempted to stab Henry IV of France to death while the king's coach was held up in Paris congestion. The would-be assassin was spotted just in time, however, and was arrested by guards.
As a result, Henry continued to rule for a further twelve years before his death in 1622. In the intervening years, his son and heir Louis, although raised Catholic, (as Henry, though born a Protestant, had been compelled to accept Catholicism in 1593 in order to win the French throne) was brought up in an environment where many of his father's counselors, including his chief minister Maximilien de Bethune, were Protestants. The court became dominated not only by the pro-Henry Huguenots but also by a faction of moderate Catholics who called themselves the Gallicans. Although they conceived of France as a Catholic state, they looked to the king as the equal if not the greater authority than the pope in French spiritual matters. This was a line of thinking not dissimilar to the Anglican Church. Importantly, the Gallicans did not contest the primacy of the pope's place in the church, but only his supremacy over national matters. This also meant rejecting the doctrine of papal infallibility. The Gallicans were led by such thinkers as Edmond Richer, the syndic of the Sorbonne, who also played a role in tutoring young Louis.
Gallicanism came to be the dominant religious current in France during the last years of Henry IV's rule and the first years of young Louis XIII's rule. It was a convenient doctrine - it increased not only the power of the crown, but also of the French bishops, who found themselves with newfound independence from Rome. Guided by Bethune, Richer and his older cousin, Henri Prince of Condé, Louis XIII not only upheld the Edict of Nantes but in fact expanded it, making the office of Marshal General of France open to Protestants and removing any geographic restrictions on Calvinism in France, which had been legally confined to certain provinces by the original edict.
The new regime authorized the free exportation of grain and wine, removed the authority of provincial governors to raise money on their own personal authority, and removed many of the abuses of French tax collection. Tax farming was abolished in 1638, and the many competing regional tax regimes were simplified into a single national system. The settlement of New France, which had been proceeding slowly, accelerated with the establishment of several debtors' colonies in the new territories. The monarchy also instituted a policy of l'exonération for colonists: Frenchmen that committed to settling in the New World would be exempt from all forms of taxation for a period of five years. This helped to spur the population of New France.
In foreign affairs, France successfully intervened in the Thirty Years' War against the Habsburg monarchy. The success of France's armies and allies established it as a leading European power. Between 1648 and 1697, France annexed Alsace, Lorraine, Artois and Franche-Comte, giving the state its approximate eastern borders of today.
Concurrent to French involvement in the Thirty Years' War and the Franco-Spanish War, the crown also had to deal with the aristocratic rebellion known as the Fronde. Royal power had been increasing steadily for fifty years, and with it the power to tax. Facing extraordinary costs from France's involvement in the continental wars, the crown for the first time decided to levy the taille, or land tax, on the aristocracy. This provoked massive resistance from the powerful noble families of France, and began the several years of disorder and civil war which came to be known as the Fronde.
Gradually, despite great destruction in the countryside, the royal party was able to reassert control. Spain had been beaten back, and divisions later emerged in the rebel faction, between hardliners who wanted to fight at any cost and those that favored negotiation with the new king, Louis XIV.
However, because of the continuing religious divisions between Huguenots, Gallicans, and hardline Catholics, tension remained. The same financial issues persisted during the reign of Louis XIV, as he prosecuted the Franco-Dutch War, the War of the League of Augsburg, and the War of Spanish Succession. Hardline Catholic nobles rose up against the crown again in 1702, forcing Louis to call the Estates General in order to squeeze further revenues from the country.
*Estates General, alliance between crown and 3rd estate, National Assembly*
Colonial and commercial involvement in North America and the Caribbean, India, China, Senegal, Maghreb
The French colonial empire had its origins in Jacques Cartier's first expedition to Canada in 1534, which he claimed for the French crown. Settlement began with Montreal, but proceeded slowly.
Indeed, France fell somewhat behind the other colonial powers due to the distractions of the French Wars of Religion in the late 16th century. Once these were resolved and Henry IV secure on the throne, the French were able to capture Algiers (1608) in retaliation for a vicious Barbary pirate raid against Marseille.
Martinique and Guadeloupe were first settled in 1635, and sugar cane plantations based on slave labor developed rapidly, reaping huge profits for the landowners and the crown. Settlement of New France accelerated when Louis XIV established a number of debtors' colonies and distributed the virgin land to veterans of the Thirty Years' War and Franco-Spanish Wars.
The Treaty of Ryswick in 1697, which ended the Nine Years' War, divided Hispaniola between Spain and France, with France receiving the western third of the island, a region that would come to be known as Haiti. French settlers were already present in Haiti, and with royal control now assured, slave plantations also developed on the model of Martinique. Haiti became the most profitable French colony of all within a decade.
French traders had also long taken an interest in West Africa, and in 1677 they took direct control of Dakar with the navy's help. Louis XIV established direct control over the city itself, after which France gradually expanded its indirect rule by forging alliances and tributary relationships with nearby chiefs, in the area which came to be known as Senegal.
The French East India Company competed for imperial influence with the English equivalent, and continues to do so to this day. Pondicherry, the capital of French India and a major trading center, was founded in 1640. However, some merchants and explorers displeased with encroaching royal control continued east to Ming, where they established the first trading ties with Nanjing. This was the beginning of a special relationship between France and the Ming, with the growth of the French Quarter in Nanjing and the presence of French missionaries and advisors (of both military and civil nature) complimented by Ming exports of coal and iron to France, accompanied by many Chinese visitors who brought back aspects of French culture to the Ming. The French East Asia Company, an adventurous splinter faction from the French East India Company, expanded this relationship further still in the 1750s, with the founding of the Maritime Academy in Shanghai. In addition, it also funded the expansion of dockyards, canon foundries, and coastal forts within the port cities of the Ming. This has firmly established the Ming as the dominant maritime power in East Asia. Recently, a small delegation of advisors from the Royal Army have traveled to the Imperial Court with similar designs (taken from Burgenreich's app).
Meanwhile in North Africa, Marshal Turenne's last campaign before retirement saw the French expand their zone of control from Algiers out into the mountainous region called Kabylia (1680), as well as the conquest of Tunis (1682). From the coastal regions, France has enlarged its North African holdings piecemeal and typically through its alliance with local Berber clans, although the direct involvement of Paris in the governance of this colony is growing.
Seven Years’ War, de facto secular state, and constitution of 1766
RP Sample:
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by Arvenia » Mon Jun 20, 2022 8:53 pm
Nation Name: Kingdom of Egypt
Culture(s): Arabic
Territory: Egypt, Libya, Sudan, South Sudan, Israel, Jordan, Hejaz and Crete
Capital City: Cairo
Population:
Government Type : Absolute Monarchy
Head of State: Name and title
Head of Government: If same as HoS, simply repeat the name
Government Description: I expect at least a (1) paragraph. You do not have to describe all ministries, departments and provinces of your country but I want to know A) how your country is administered, B) how local governments function.
Majority/State Religion: Sunni Islam
Economic Description: I expect at least one (1) paragraph. Explain how advanced your economy is, how your economy works (free-market capitalism? heavily regulated economy?) and the major products of your country.
Development: Industrialized, pre-industrialized or primitive? Remember to be realistic, and that if you choose 'industrialized' you will have to justify it in your history.
Army Description:
Army Weakness:
Naval Description:
Naval Weakness:
National Goals: What are the objectives your nation aims to follow?
National Issues: State which problems plague your nation. I expect at the very least two problems.
History: I expect at least two (2) paragraphs of history. If your nation does not follow RL historical development, I expect your history to be more detailed but even if your country is a carbon copy of its RL equivalent, I still expect two paragraphs.
RP Sample: Link. If you are new to the forums and do not have a sample, write a short paragraph so I can check your RP abilities.
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by Scandinavia21 » Mon Jun 20, 2022 8:57 pm
Sky News Australia
February 26th, 2025
Sydney, Australia- In a statement released by the Australian Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Australia stands with its partner and historical ally the United States in seeking peace in the Taiwan Strait and asks the PRC to stand down. We have also learned that Prime Minister Morrison is inviting the leaders of Japan, South Korea and the United States to Sydney to discuss peace and varying security matters. In the same statement, the Australian government is also a reason from the Russian government as to why they are moving so many troops near its border with Ukraine. As many have noticed, Ethiopia has made the news recently by legalizing cannabalism and threatening Eritrea by massing troops on the two countries shared border. According to the Australian Ministry of Finances, All Ethiopian assets in Australia will be frozen as well as all Australian assets both public and private will be withdrawn from Ethiopia. This will remain in effect until Ethiopia bans cannabalism and withdraws its troops from its border with Eritrea. The Australian Embassy in Ethiopia will be evacuated for safety reasons.
by Khasinkonia » Mon Jun 20, 2022 9:06 pm
by Rodez » Mon Jun 20, 2022 9:09 pm
Arvenia wrote:Currently WIPNation Name: Kingdom of Egypt
Culture(s): Arabic
Territory: Egypt, Libya (minus French-controlled parts), Sudan, South Sudan, Israel, Jordan, Hejaz and Crete
Capital City: Cairo
Population:
Government Type : Absolute Monarchy
Head of State: Name and title
Head of Government: If same as HoS, simply repeat the name
Government Description: I expect at least a (1) paragraph. You do not have to describe all ministries, departments and provinces of your country but I want to know A) how your country is administered, B) how local governments function.
Majority/State Religion: Sunni Islam
Economic Description: I expect at least one (1) paragraph. Explain how advanced your economy is, how your economy works (free-market capitalism? heavily regulated economy?) and the major products of your country.
Development: Industrialized, pre-industrialized or primitive? Remember to be realistic, and that if you choose 'industrialized' you will have to justify it in your history.
Army Description:
Army Weakness:
Naval Description:
Naval Weakness:
National Goals: What are the objectives your nation aims to follow?
National Issues: State which problems plague your nation. I expect at the very least two problems.
History: I expect at least two (2) paragraphs of history. If your nation does not follow RL historical development, I expect your history to be more detailed but even if your country is a carbon copy of its RL equivalent, I still expect two paragraphs.
RP Sample: Link. If you are new to the forums and do not have a sample, write a short paragraph so I can check your RP abilities.
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by Scandinavia21 » Mon Jun 20, 2022 9:18 pm
Khasinkonia wrote:Though I was very excited to play as New France, I must regrettably withdraw my reservation, as I feel such a large polity is too much for me to handle. With that in mind, I am debating between several different, less ambitious options. Between the Kingdom of Middag (in Taiwan), a Sicilian Republic, and a Finnish polity, what would y’all prefer to see? I’m mostly changing my reservation because I wish to work with a country that will be less regionally important.
by Scandinavia21 » Mon Jun 20, 2022 9:21 pm
Rodez wrote:Scandinavia21 wrote:Hey want to team up against Britain?
I genuinely don't know. On the one hand Britain and France are always traditional enemies, on the other, a unified Germany is probably a bigger threat to France than Britain could ever be. And the fact that the Catholic Stuarts rule Britain could make burying the hatchet significantly easier. So I will let that play out, and plan on having a lively debate about it in parliament and in Henry's court.Arvenia wrote:Currently WIPNation Name: Kingdom of Egypt
Culture(s): Arabic
Territory: Egypt, Libya (minus French-controlled parts), Sudan, South Sudan, Israel, Jordan, Hejaz and Crete
Capital City: Cairo
Population:
Government Type : Absolute Monarchy
Head of State: Name and title
Head of Government: If same as HoS, simply repeat the name
Government Description: I expect at least a (1) paragraph. You do not have to describe all ministries, departments and provinces of your country but I want to know A) how your country is administered, B) how local governments function.
Majority/State Religion: Sunni Islam
Economic Description: I expect at least one (1) paragraph. Explain how advanced your economy is, how your economy works (free-market capitalism? heavily regulated economy?) and the major products of your country.
Development: Industrialized, pre-industrialized or primitive? Remember to be realistic, and that if you choose 'industrialized' you will have to justify it in your history.
Army Description:
Army Weakness:
Naval Description:
Naval Weakness:
National Goals: What are the objectives your nation aims to follow?
National Issues: State which problems plague your nation. I expect at the very least two problems.
History: I expect at least two (2) paragraphs of history. If your nation does not follow RL historical development, I expect your history to be more detailed but even if your country is a carbon copy of its RL equivalent, I still expect two paragraphs.
RP Sample: Link. If you are new to the forums and do not have a sample, write a short paragraph so I can check your RP abilities.
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FYI, I haven't claimed any part of Libya. I think that is probably Tunisia you're looking at.
by Theyra » Mon Jun 20, 2022 9:24 pm
Khasinkonia wrote:Though I was very excited to play as New France, I must regrettably withdraw my reservation, as I feel such a large polity is too much for me to handle. With that in mind, I am debating between several different, less ambitious options. Between the Kingdom of Middag (in Taiwan), a Sicilian Republic, and a Finnish polity, what would y’all prefer to see? I’m mostly changing my reservation because I wish to work with a country that will be less regionally important.
by Burgenreich » Mon Jun 20, 2022 10:10 pm
Khasinkonia wrote:Though I was very excited to play as New France, I must regrettably withdraw my reservation, as I feel such a large polity is too much for me to handle. With that in mind, I am debating between several different, less ambitious options. Between the Kingdom of Middag (in Taiwan), a Sicilian Republic, and a Finnish polity, what would y’all prefer to see? I’m mostly changing my reservation because I wish to work with a country that will be less regionally important.
by Khasinkonia » Mon Jun 20, 2022 10:17 pm
Burgenreich wrote:Khasinkonia wrote:Though I was very excited to play as New France, I must regrettably withdraw my reservation, as I feel such a large polity is too much for me to handle. With that in mind, I am debating between several different, less ambitious options. Between the Kingdom of Middag (in Taiwan), a Sicilian Republic, and a Finnish polity, what would y’all prefer to see? I’m mostly changing my reservation because I wish to work with a country that will be less regionally important.
Hey man, Taiwan is always there for you. I do not mind losing an island. While it would be fun just to have more people in the region, I know you would make it pretty dope.
by Dogutrakya » Mon Jun 20, 2022 10:39 pm
Scandinavia21 wrote:snip
by Scandinavia21 » Mon Jun 20, 2022 11:14 pm
by Burgenreich » Tue Jun 21, 2022 1:23 am
Khasinkonia wrote:Burgenreich wrote:
Hey man, Taiwan is always there for you. I do not mind losing an island. While it would be fun just to have more people in the region, I know you would make it pretty dope.
Well I think I can provide fun then! Would Ming accept a chief styled as the Sun King, or would that be considered too arrogant for a tributary?
by Reverend Norv » Tue Jun 21, 2022 4:26 am
Scandinavia21 wrote:Nation Name: The Spanish Empire
For really, I think that the poorest he that is in England hath a life to live as the greatest he. And therefore truly, Sir, I think it's clear that every man that is to live under a Government ought first by his own consent to put himself under that Government. And I do think that the poorest man in England is not at all bound in a strict sense to that Government that he hath not had a voice to put himself under.
Col. Thomas Rainsborough, Putney Debates, 1647
A God who let us prove His existence would be an idol.
Dietrich Bonhoeffer
by Sao Nova Europa » Tue Jun 21, 2022 4:31 am
Khasinkonia wrote:Though I was very excited to play as New France, I must regrettably withdraw my reservation, as I feel such a large polity is too much for me to handle. With that in mind, I am debating between several different, less ambitious options. Between the Kingdom of Middag (in Taiwan), a Sicilian Republic, and a Finnish polity, what would y’all prefer to see? I’m mostly changing my reservation because I wish to work with a country that will be less regionally important.
by Ovstylap » Tue Jun 21, 2022 4:48 am
by Aegeonia » Tue Jun 21, 2022 4:53 am
by Sao Nova Europa » Tue Jun 21, 2022 4:59 am
Aegeonia wrote:Quick Question: do these have to be Real countries that existed?, or could I make one up (NOTE: I’m only asking this because I want to add my current country, aegeonia, to it, not make a African Spanning Empire)
by Aegeonia » Tue Jun 21, 2022 5:01 am
Sao Nova Europa wrote:Aegeonia wrote:Quick Question: do these have to be Real countries that existed?, or could I make one up (NOTE: I’m only asking this because I want to add my current country, aegeonia, to it, not make a African Spanning Empire)
No. They have to be either RL countries or countries that could have reasonably be formed.
by Sao Nova Europa » Tue Jun 21, 2022 5:03 am
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