A War of Blood and Steel [Althis|PT|OOC|Open]

[Tracian Empire]

I did not necessarily think of Australia and the other dominions, which would be developed enough to stay independent and which if no one claims them will be British aligned Dominion NPC's, but controlling them would not a breach if the one nation rule. Had there been a British Empire player we'd have allowed them to control the Dominions also but they would be essentially be still considered colonies from the perspective of the rules.

Regardless, I was mostly focusing on the idea of the British colonies in Africa, where the local, colonial and protectorate governments could have maintained control for the British loyalist government. It's less of an issue of seizing (similarly for Newfoundland and Bermuda), but more so of the local British regimes refusing to recognize the socialist regime in Britain and continuing to recognize the government in exile in Canada. Your control of them would be shakier than that of Britain IRL, obviously, so in the IC you might have to resort to asking for American or French support, but they could still start as your colonies, they would be an important source of resources and they would make the IC more interesting.

As for what Canada actually controls I’m going to keep it as is. Seeing as I’m not going to claim any other dominions I’m going see where they end up NPC or otherwise. When I write the history for my app I’ll have the royal family and imperialists in Canada pushing to secure what they can among the remaining colonies. I’m reticent to stake definitive control anywhere else because of Canada’s limited power projection capabilities. I see Canada as having some very lofty ambitions while basically relying on the US to achieve any of them. What they can provide is the political legitimacy of the royal family and a small but incredibly experienced army.

Your choice in the end, but your reservation for Canada is accepted

[Krugmar]

As for what Canada actually controls I’m going to keep it as is. Seeing as I’m not going to claim any other dominions I’m going see where they end up NPC or otherwise. When I write the history for my app I’ll have the royal family and imperialists in Canada pushing to secure what they can among the remaining colonies. I’m reticent to stake definitive control anywhere else because of Canada’s limited power projection capabilities. I see Canada as having some very lofty ambitions while basically relying on the US to achieve any of them. What they can provide is the political legitimacy of the royal family and a small but incredibly experienced army.

Worth noting that a good deal of the Royal Navy and nascent Royal Air Force was likely able to be recovered, which would allow Canada to have an oversized influence compared to its population and industrial capacity.

If Canada and the royal family aren’t able to secure the non-dominion colonies then I expect they’d be carved up as mandates, the lions share presumably going to France, to govern on behalf of the Exiled UK. Or Australia for the Asian colonies and protectorates if it hasn’t also gone socialist.

[Arvenia]

As for what Canada actually controls I’m going to keep it as is. Seeing as I’m not going to claim any other dominions I’m going see where they end up NPC or otherwise. When I write the history for my app I’ll have the royal family and imperialists in Canada pushing to secure what they can among the remaining colonies. I’m reticent to stake definitive control anywhere else because of Canada’s limited power projection capabilities. I see Canada as having some very lofty ambitions while basically relying on the US to achieve any of them. What they can provide is the political legitimacy of the royal family and a small but incredibly experienced army.

Worth noting that a good deal of the Royal Navy and nascent Royal Air Force was likely able to be recovered, which would allow Canada to have an oversized influence compared to its population and industrial capacity.

If Canada and the royal family aren’t able to secure the non-dominion colonies then I expect they’d be carved up as mandates, the lions share presumably going to France, to govern on behalf of the Exiled UK. Or Australia for the Asian colonies and protectorates if it hasn’t also gone socialist.

Australia would probably not be socialist.

[New Neros]

Worth noting that a good deal of the Royal Navy and nascent Royal Air Force was likely able to be recovered, which would allow Canada to have an oversized influence compared to its population and industrial capacity.

If Canada and the royal family aren’t able to secure the non-dominion colonies then I expect they’d be carved up as mandates, the lions share presumably going to France, to govern on behalf of the Exiled UK. Or Australia for the Asian colonies and protectorates if it hasn’t also gone socialist.

Australia would probably not be socialist.

yet, comrade

[Draos]

Hello

[Tracian Empire]

Nation Application

Full Nation Name:

The Empire of Brazil

#JDMZVUM1QC (do not delete this, it's for keeping track of the apps)

I want to double check your understanding of the tech tree system - because the phrase "French Brazilian cooperation begins with the marriage of Empress Isabel I and the grandson of King Luís Filipe I of France, Gastão de Orleans, Count d'Eu." in the tech section seems to indicate to me that you believe that Brazil's use of French tech must be justified through a good relationship with France. However, as per the tech system, your use of the French tech will be treated with a bit of suspension of disbelief as being its own, native Brazilian thing.

Your app presents Pedro Henrique of Orléans-Braganza, as Pedro III, while your history mentions Pedro de Alcântara, Prince of Grão-Pará as Pedro III.


Brazil’s economy feels maybe a bit too successful? The government actually putting effort into industrialization works, but said industrialization would likely be limited to its coastal areas and to its major urban areas. Also considering that Brazil would likely still be a major agricultural exporter, and since important regions of the country are those where the geography keeps them more or less rural and isolated, saying that Brazil would have completely abandoned its rural roots is a bit too much.


For the military:

• Your aircraft numbers are rivalling those of France in the 1940 campaign...so basically 2 years away and a country with a long history of industrialisation, unlike yours. You have the necessary tools to be able to develop what France did, the question is if you can be so much better at developing these things that you outpace them.
• Your navy is essentially better than the French Navy at the time. Admittedly, the French were hampered by the resource drain of the trench warfare as well as the following Washington Naval Treaty but still, it might be best to think a little smaller for now and ramp production up with naval programs later.

And for the history:

• The Brazilian Navy was the fifth or the sixth largest, not the fourth, and as stated previously to other players, I am opposed to any sort of position claiming since we simply don’t know. There are more nations with a stronger naval focus than in real life, there are still apps in progress, any sort of ranking wouldn't really work.
• The entire Anglo-Brazilian War is something that we would have to deny as long as we lack an English player. We generally do not allow people to control the histories of NPC's or of unclaimed nations, unless it's an absolutely crucial thing. You are free to discuss the possibility of such a war in the future if we will ever have a British player, but regardless I don't think that the conflict works. The Pirara Question in real life did not lead to a war, Britain essentially had the upper hand and Brazil had to submit to international arbitration. There is also the fact that the notion that Brazil could beat a Britain at the height of its power is highly debtable.
• I’m generally not a big fan of rebellions being defeated by the actions of a single man, but eh, it’s not necessarily an issue. It doesn’t fundamentally address the issues that led to the fall of the monarchy but it’s not impossible. Regardless, I would like to see a few more general mentions about how the monarchy strengthened its position and about how the ultraconservatives that opposed it were dealt with.
• · Brazil further pursuing industrialization makes sense, but I’m not sure what you mean by universal health care – if it’s a social health insurance type of thing like Germany had at this point in time in real life maybe, yeah. Universal suffrage is a bit too early and would have likely further angered the the more conservative part of the population so I’d propose that you make it into one of the achievements of Empress Isabel later on.
• The comparison with your neighbors in 1900 isn’t completely fair since Argentina was doing pretty well IRL also at that time, and there is also Greater Colombia to your north.
• The Grand Assembly is rejected. You are controlling the histories of NPC's that you again have no control over, and you're doing it solely for the benefit of Brazil. I also think that relations between South American countries would still be too tense for something like that to happen (Mercosur was only founded in 1991, and attempts by Brazil and Argentina to do a customs union in 1941 didn't work out due to diplomatic differences). A military bloc would be even more unlikely, since Argentina, Chile and Uruguay most likely would all fear the notion of Brazilian hegemony.
• Several issues with WW1. For Brazil to go to war in 1915 feels too early – in real life several Brazilian merchant ships were sunken and yet Brazil did nothing, it was only the declaration of unrestricted submarine warfare and the destruction of a ship that was following all rules of neutral sailing that forced Brazil to do it - and even then there were plenty of internal issues over the matter. The entire part about the Brazilians fighting German battleships doesn’t work considering that the Hochseeflotte was bottled up in the North Sea by the British blockade, so any sort of naval battles between the Brazilian Navy and the Germans in the Atlantic would involve submarines on the German side. The use of air power in naval battles is a bit too revolutionary, and Brazil wouldn't have had much of an air force to begin with and no native military air industry, so it wouldn't have been able to send many planes to Europe - any planes that it would have had would have likely received from the Entente. Tanks in 1917 in the Brazilian forces also doesn't work.

[Tracian Empire]

Hello

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[Draos]

Hello

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Mayhaps

[Remnants of Exilvania]

@Deblar, The New Byzantine II

Please post a completed app/edit your application as required by staff within the next 6 hours or your reservations will be voided.

@Rygondria, Dogutrakya

Please post a completed application within the net 12 hours or your reservations will be voided.

Do note, all of you, that a voided reservation does not mean you are out. You are still free to complete an application for your spot. However, you now do not have a reserved claim to the land, which could now also be taken up by other, new applicants.

[Tracian Empire]

Nation Application

Full Nation Name: The Kingdom of the Netherlands


#JDMZVUM1QC (do not delete this, it's for keeping track of the apps)

You need to update your population in order to account for the inclusion of the Congo and of the Dutch East Indies. You can find population figures on Wikipedia.


For the military:

-Decide on a tech tree. You can't be both the Dutch and the Belgian at the same time. I recommend the Dutch as they grant more options.

-Remove the T-13 and T-15 or at least claim they're licenses procured from X country. Depends of course what tech tree you claim. Otherwise look for other tanks of the era for which you can procure licenses. I mainly brought the Belgian tank force up as a way of showing you the capability you have for the production of armoured vehicles, rather than telling you to take these specific armoured vehicles.

-Remove the Marmon-Herrington CTLS, it doesn't exist yet.

-P-36 please. Concerning the Koolhoven, I recommend introducing them in the IC or developing them there since your nation would already possess a very recently developed modern fighter in the Fokker D.XXI, which would put a damper on already making a new fighter. The Koolhoven itself was afterall mainly made to cash in on the French's desperate measures to get new and modern aircraft.

-What about the Fokker T.V and the Fokker T.VIII? These could make for some interesting domestic choices for bombers though if Inter is fine with it, then I am sure he can give you B-10s


The history and the rest of the app are both alright, though I would recommend that you read the app again and try to fix some of the ortography, just to make the app look better.


That and do actually mention in the app that you agree to the rules.

[Asturies-Llion]

I still have to figure out things about the military description. I will try to post the rest of the info today, but I am not sure about that specific part, because I am terrible at military history.

[Tracian Empire]

I still have to figure out things about the military description. I will try to post the rest of the info today, but I am not sure about that specific part, because I am terrible at military history.

We can certainly try to help you with the military, but we would need to know the other details about your country first, so that works well.

[Dogutrakya]

Nation Application



"Maréchal, nous voila!"

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Full Nation Name: République française (Republic of France) commonly Troisième République (Third Republic), or État français (French State)

Short Nation Name: France

Capital: Paris

Territory: Metropolitan France (incl. Corsica), French West Africa (Mauritania, Niger, Mali, Guinea, Benin, Burkina Faso, Ivory Coast, Togo, Senegal), French Central Africa (Chad, Cent. Afr. Rep., Gabon, Rep. Congo), French Guiana, French Caribbean, Cameroon, Algeria, Tunisia, Madagascar, Comoros, Mascarenes (Mauritius, Reunion), French Indochina (Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia), Vanuatu, New Caledonia, French Polynesia, French Southern and Antarctic Islands, French Libya, other French possessions in 1938 IRL.

Form of Government: Democratic Republic de jure, One-party Nationalist dictatorship de facto

Head of State: Président Henri Philippe Pétain

Head of Government: Premier ministre Gaston Doumergue

Ideology: Republicanism de jure, French Nationalism de facto

Population: 108,833,046

- Metropolitan France: 45,000,000
- Algeria: 9,517,000
- Tunisia: 3,781,000
- Libya: 893,774
- French Guiana: 24,000
- French Indochina: 24,664,000
- French West Africa: 13,993,200
- French Equatorial Africa: 4,421,000
- French Cameroons: 2,381,272
- Madagascar: 3,900,000
- French Mascarenes: 187,000
- French Pacific & misc. territories: 71,000

Military Description:
• Commander-in-Chief Alphonse Joseph Georges
• Army Chief of Staff Charles de Gaulle
French Army organization:

• Infantry Divisions: 90 (37 regular, 6 fortresses, 12 North African, 9 colonial)
• Motorized Infantry Divisions: 5
• Light Infantry Divisions: 5
• Panzer Divisions: 5

French Army Equipment:

• Tanks: 3700 (1200 OSMUA S-35, 1800 Renault R-35, 300 Char B1, 400 AMR 35)
• Armored Cars: 850 (500 AMR-39 7.5mm Reibel, 350 AMR-39 25mm SA-35 gun). The AR-39 entered mass production earlier than in OTL.

Tech Tree: French

Economic Description:

• Metropolitan France: France is an industrialized country, being one of the largest economies in Europe and the World. The French industrial corridor from Ile-de France to the northeast is one of the largest in the world, containing many of France's primary foundries and factories. An excellent railway system, constructed from the 1870s and further improved after the Great War, optimized mobility and economic development along the railways. Since the end of the Great War, the French government has put an emphasis in the automotive, consumer goods, and war industry - creating millions of jobs in the Roaring Twenties. The Great Depression in turn, did not affect France as harshly as it affects France's neighbor, allowing for a minimally positive GDP growth rate even during the global recession. In addition, French enterprises also import workers from France's overseas empire to make uo for the lack of factory workers. These workers have little rights compared to Metropolitan citizens, and are seen as expendable. Large slums developed in the outskits of cities like Paris, Marseille, Lyon, and Toulouse.
• Algeria and Tunisia: Both settler colonies of France are in a way similar to the Metropolis. Algeria and Tunisia boasts a vast railway network, numerous industrialized cities, and quality of life not far below that of Metropolitan France.
• French African colonies: While most of the French possessions in Africa are endless swathes of desert and jungle, French enterpreneurs have established numerous, vast plantations in the African tropics. These plantations, which produced everything from sugar, to cocoa, vanilla, starch, and other commodities, serve as the primry provider of raw materials for France's consumer goods industry. Recently, however, France has instituted an export ban from French African colonies to Germany, with the hopes of curtailing German competitors to French business.
• French Indochina: Vietnam and Cambodia became one of the world's primary rice-producing regions after the fall of India to communism. Numerous other commodities, such as coffee and tea, are also planted in the hills of Vietnam, becoming the world's largest coffee exporter. A vast network of railways connected the cities of Vietnam and Cambodia, allowing faster transportation and greater economic benefit. Saigon is one of Asia's busiest seaports, rivalling Tokyo and Singapore. The recent influx of immigrants from India and China allowed cheap labor to be used by French plantations.

Goals: Opposition of communism around the world, strengthening of the French economy and industry against Germany, and protection of French colonial interests.

Point of Divergence: 1830

History:

1830: After the fall of the Dey of Algiers, the French accepted a proposal of recognition from Abdesselem Mokrani, a Kabyle leader who was fighting his rival and the Bey of Constantine, a Turkish ruler. In return, the French would recognize Mokrani and his descendants as lords of Constantine and approved a protectorate for the Kabyle people. With Kabyle help, the French completed their conquest of western Algiers, defeating Emir Abdelkader in 1839 and imprisoning him.
1839: The Marabouts' resistance collapsed because of Abdelkader's capture. The French launched a brutal campaign against Algerian towns who refused to submit to French rule. The French monarchy knighted Abdesselem Mokrani and made him a duke, a major honour at that time, moreso to a colonial head of state.
1840: Algeria was made a settler colony. Hundreds of thousands of people are invited to settle and bulid businesses, and cheap parcels of land are advertised across France and the rest of Europe. In later times the French colonial authority tried to institute formal education towards Arabs to "Frenchify" them. Madrasa and marabout activity was banned, and education was taught in French. French gradually supplanted Arabic as the primary language of the region.


1851: Resistance to Louis-Napoléon's coup d'état spread across Paris, led by prominent Republican Victor Hugo. Louis-Napoléon organized a referendum that allowed him to rule for another ten years. In a concession towards the Republican faction, Napoléon's supporters struck down the pereparations to crown him as another monarch. This period until Napoléon's declaration of a French Empire in 1870.
1860: Napoléon's dictatorship government struck down the planned Cobden-Chevalier treaty to appease industrialists. Another treaty was signed with Britain, however, the free trade effects that this treaty brought was minimal so that it could preserve and advance French industry without heavy competition. The economy flourished due to Napoléon's infrastructure projects, and birth rates grew significantly.
1861: Foreign minister Édouard Thouvenel struck a deal with the United States that ruled out French support to the Confederacy in exchange of favoured trade partner status, and French assistance in the American Civil War. France was hoping that the industrialized might of the North could bring about a quick end to the war. For this reason as well, Thouvenel fiercely opposed Napoléon's plans of creating a French puppet state in Mexico.
1870: Napoléon, fearing that his dictatorship was losing its grip to power, led a coup on the National Assembly reminiscent of the 1851 coup, and removed parliamentarians increasingly critical of his rule. He then proceeded to crown himself Emperor, and attacked Germany the very next month - rallying public opinion against an external scapegoat. The disastrous defeat of France and the loss of Alsace-Lorraine saw Napoléeon sentenced to exile, his supporters jailed, and provisions put in place to prevent another royal - either Orléeanist, Legitimist, or Bonapartist, from holding public office. The Third Republic was proclaimed. The French economy, however, was successful in rebouncing back, and soon started to become again a close competitor to Germany.
1911: The past between the Roman Empire against Russia resulted in the Congress of Berlin's decision to split Roman possessions in Africa, which had seen Cyprus falling into British influence and Tunisia into French, with the possibility of French influence extending into Libya in an agreement if Italy refused Tripoli. Italy ultimately refused to utilize their claim, and so the French government decided to extend their protectorate into Libya. France seized Libya in the 1911 Franco-Roman war, with the help of the Idrisid Emirate of Asir. The French government, however, decided to leave a sliver of Roman control in Cyrenaica as to not overextend their North African colonial possessions.


March 1918: The German Spring Offensive was launched to strike deeply into French territory to give Germany a last fighting chance. General Pétain, however, was able to mobilize enough troops at the correct time to support Field Marshal Haig's British forces, ending Operation Michael as a defeat for the Germans. Without British forces retreating to defend Amiens, Operation Georgette cannot be put into action. Instead the next battle would be the third battle of the Aisne. Here, Ferdinand Foch - who had been made Entente supreme commander in France, instructed Denis Duchene to fortify the Sixth Army's positions and construct further trenches. The sufficient preparations hindered German advance to the Marne. Operation Gneisenau was cancelled due to this failure. Entente's Hundred Days Offensive began a while later.
November 1918: Germany capitulates. Georges Clemenceau was hailed as an able prime minister, while Pétain, returned to Paris, was widely celebrated as a war hero. Due to Clemenceau's dislike towards President Poincaré, he and Pétain started being close allies in politics.
April 1919: Negotiations between Entente leaders on terms that should be imposed to Germany. Poincaré wanted French troops occupying the Rhineland, Foch wanted a separate Rhineland state, while Clemenceau insisted that an alliance with Britain and America should be the best guarantee of peace. In the end, the French decided on a compromise: Entente troops would be kept in the Rhineland until 1930, afterwards which the region would be turned over to Germany as a demilitarized territory. Clemenceau however ordered the stripping of Germany's industrial assets in the Palatinate. This left many Germans jobless and numerous riots occurred in the area.
1920-1925: Clemenceau was declared candidate for the next Preisdential election, and was elected. Socialist-turned-conservative Alexandre Millerand became his Prime Minister. The French sends only a small token of soldiers to Frankfurt dueto the population's hostility, and since he didnot want to cause major scandals in his first year. He continued the policy of stripping Germany of its industry, occupying the Ruhr in 1923. When German civlilians refused to mine coal and cooperate, Clemenceau had French workers from Lorraine settle in abandoned, repurposed buildings and fired the German workers. Almost no German was killed in the occupation, but the economic toll on the region was high. Clemenceau justified this claiming that Germany failed to deliver coal and timber payments to France, therefore it is justified that the French began taking resources on their own. The French did not stop at resource extraction, however. Factory machines were disassembled and sent to France, while smelters are intentionally being forced to produce lower outputs. All the while, Clemenceau began redeveloping the areas that had been violently torn by the Great War. Factories and railways were bulit, and there was an incentive for workers. Another incentive for having children resulted in a larger increase in population (than OTL). France ended the occupation of the Ruhr with German industry significantly set back.
1925: Worsening economic conditions and heavy taxes due to the Great War and French reconstruction resulted in a major Arab revolt in Algeria, and even inside the Kabyle protectorate. France deployed almost a hundred thousand soldiers to quell the insurgency. This was France's first post-Great War major conflict; General Charles de Gaulle, the commanding officer, employed a tactic of combined arms, separating tanks from the infantry division, and also greatly utilized French attack aircrafts such as the Borel C2. Arab forces were driven into a rout and defeated. The insurgent leaders were exiled to French Libya, which had just come under French rule in 1919. A prominent insurgent leader was chosen to administer the territory in a gesture of goodwill.
1929-1930: The death of President Clemenceau. Nationalists in France called for a snap parliamentary and presidential election. The 1929 election was one of the most chaotic and disastrous in French history. Following the very slim victory of Bloc National and General Philippe Pétain, Clemenceau's ally, to Presidency. French communists led by Maurice Thorez, Jacques Doriot, and Henri Barbé staged a month-long riot in opposition to Pétain. The Wall Street crash later that year caused a recession in the French economy, which Pétain blamed on the French communists. Finally, the Communist Party, emboldened by Germany's fall into communism, staged riots in Paris, Lyon, and Marseille - the communists in Marseille going as far as seizing the docks and attacking the town hall. Some, however, suspected this was Pétain's doing and that it was a false flag attack.
1930: Alphonse Joseph Georges was appointed supreme commander of the French military, with Charles de Gaulle as his lieutenant in command of the French Army. Instead of the costly defence fortifications proposed by war minister André Maginot, Georges and de Gaulle instead chose the modernization of the French army, adopting new tanks, small arms, and airplanes with a major change in combat doctrine led by de Gaulle, based on his experiences in Algeria. Small fortification bunkers were still bulit across the French-Belgian and French-German border. Georges was friendly to Pétain and the Nationalists, and he persuaded Pétain to seek closer military ties to Britain. After the Communist riots, leftist appointees to the French military were purged, with most of them sentenced fpr treason. Training years were extended, and garrison units in Libya were gradually rotated to provide French troops with military experience.
May 1930: President of France, Philippe Pétain, banned the French Communist Party in response. French police seized communist leaders, including PCF leader Maurice Thorez, in Labour Day. Tomorrow saw two prominent communists Doriot and Barbé, surrendering themselves to Paris police alongside trucks full of important documents. Both later became cadres of Pétain's Bloc National.
August 1931: Communism itself as an ideology was banned in France. A communist scare engulfed the country - partially fanned by the Bloc National. Socialist politicians of the Cartel des Gauches merged the two largest parties - Radical-Socialists and the French Worker's International into the Social Party, a new party encompassing all of the French Left, This party was led by Édouard Daladier and Léon Blum. Daladier assumed premiership after the Communist Party ban until 1934.
1934: A decisive defeat of the French Left put staunch right-wing politician Gaston Doumergue in power. Doumergue and Pétain worked together to blame the French recession on the Social Party and agitate the public against socialism. This split the Social Party leadership - between Léon Blum's bloc who was more supportive of the Nationalist regime and Daladier's faction, staunchly opposed to them. In the end Pétain banned Daladier's faction of the party, and he was exiled to Libya. Léon Blum's Social Party officially entered coalition with the Nationalists. Subsequent elections were always won by the National coalition - either because all opposing parties are intimidated to submission by the regime, or outright banned.

Have You Read, Understand, and Agree with the OP Posts & Rules In Detail?: Yes.
#JDMZVUM1QC (do not delete this, it's for keeping track of the apps)

[Asturies-Llion]

One of my problems with the history of my country is that I should know if the Roman State is Byzantine "Ottoman Empire", and if it had control over the area of Iraq before the war. I need to explain why Persia has control over that area, be it because the Safavid Empire never lost it or because Persia took advantage of the partition of the Roman State. Also, I need to know when did the Durrani take my eastern territories.

[Remnants of Exilvania]

One of my problems with the history of my country is that I should know if the Roman State is Byzantine "Ottoman Empire", and if it had control over the area of Iraq before the war. I need to explain why Persia has control over that area, be it because the Safavid Empire never lost it or because Persia took advantage of the partition of the Roman State. Also, I need to know when did the Durrani take my eastern territories.

Sending them each a TG would likely be for the best and certainly worth a try.

[Theyra]

One of my problems with the history of my country is that I should know if the Roman State is Byzantine "Ottoman Empire", and if it had control over the area of Iraq before the war. I need to explain why Persia has control over that area, be it because the Safavid Empire never lost it or because Persia took advantage of the partition of the Roman State. Also, I need to know when did the Durrani take my eastern territories.

To be honest, that claims map was made by New Neros, not me. I am perfectly fine with giving up the Iranian territory and letting you have it. Except for Balochistan which is in both Iran and Pakistan since I want my nation to have a coastline. That okay with you?

[Asturies-Llion]

One of my problems with the history of my country is that I should know if the Roman State is Byzantine "Ottoman Empire", and if it had control over the area of Iraq before the war. I need to explain why Persia has control over that area, be it because the Safavid Empire never lost it or because Persia took advantage of the partition of the Roman State. Also, I need to know when did the Durrani take my eastern territories.

To be honest, that claims map was made by New Neros, not me. I am perfectly fine with giving up the Iranian territory and letting you have it. Except for Balochistan which is in both Iran and Pakistan since I want my nation to have a coastline. That okay with you?

I am ok with your proposal

[Tracian Empire]

Nation Application

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"Maréchal, nous voila!"

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Full Nation Name: République française (Republic of France) commonly Troisième République (Third Republic), or État français (French State)


#JDMZVUM1QC (do not delete this, it's for keeping track of the apps)

I don't think that France heavily investing into development prior to the Great Depression would somehow limit the effects it had, or that it would have necessarily been into a better position than that of its neighbors.

Algeria and Tunisia being industrialized and developed at any level close to that of metropolitan France would just be unfeasible. Even if France would somehow have changed its earlier policies and would have tried to heavily industrialize those regions up until WW1, maintainig such a policy after WW1 would be almost impossible since the state would have had to focus on repairing the damage in France itself, and fixing its war-weary economy.

Libya is likely to have been only gained by France following WW1. The Roman app makes no mention of any big territorial losses to European powers prior to the Great War, but instead actually mentions a certain level of isolationism. So details about Libya would have to be discussed with the Roman player.

Seeing as Germany most likely collapses to communism immediately after the war's end, a French advance into Germany or any sort of big treaty imposed on Germany seems unlikely. It's likely that the Entente would have tried to stop the communists, but seeing as the communist regime in Germany survived and seeing the war exhaustion of all Entente nations at the end of WW1 is likely to be even bigger than in real life without the industrial might of the US helping them, and seeing how Britain is also supposed to be socialist in this timeline, the most likely scenario is that an attempted invasion of Germany would have further weakened the Entente war effort and would have led to at least an informal acceptance of the German regime. So the occupation of the Rhineland and all the French activities there would likely either not have happened at all or would have been a short lived invasion, details of which you could discuss with the German player.

Britain being socialist would also change the possibility of military ties with it.

Like I previously told you, a simple war against Algerian rebels is unlikely to have led to major changes in French military thought. The rebels would have lacked tanks or heavier military hardware in general and would have likely operated as a guerrila insurgency, and a military operation against them wouldn't give the French a lot of chances to make observations relevant to modern warfare. Neither would Libyan garrison duty. At the most such things could make the French adept at counterguerrilla warfare but that's about it. If you wish for the French a more modern military thought that would override what they learned from their WW1 experiences and victory then you need a big war against an actual nation to explain them. De Gaulle could still have ideas, but he wouldn't be able to fully implement them otherwise.

I'm also not necessarily against France not building the Maginot Line, but you have not touched upon either of the reasons that led to France building it in real life.

As for the military, your armor numbers are highly inflated. Some things are understandable, like producing more S-35's and no Hotchkiss, but all your armor numbers, would need to be reduced by between 1/3 to 1/2 as it is not June 1940 but January 1938. As for the armored cars, the AMR-39's third variant with the 25mm SA-35 gun is unlikely to have been produced in such higher numbers, even if you rushed the prototype a bit, it would likely only now be entering serial production, and much lower numbers of this particular vehicle should also bring your armored car numbers to acceptable levels.

[Rygondria]

I’m feeling really bad for Eastern Europe In rp right now, I have a feeling it’s going too end up as a battlefield between Thällman and Boris, which probably won’t end up well for anyone

[Nationalist Northumbria]

Reservation

Nation Name: Socialist Northumbrian Empire
Territory: British Isles
Tech Tree: British
#JDMZVUM1QC (Do not delete this, it is used to keep track of the apps)

*Note: Reservations will last for 48 hours. The OP board reserves the right to be subjective in regards to accepting and removing reservations.

[Remnants of Exilvania]

I’m feeling really bad for Eastern Europe In rp right now, I have a feeling it’s going too end up as a battlefield between Thällman and Boris, which probably won’t end up well for anyone

real eastern europe hours

Always a battlefield between Germans and Russians. Or Russians and Poles. Or anyone else. But always a battlefield.

[Tracian Empire]

Reservation

Nation Name: Socialist Northumbrian Empire
Territory: British Isles
Tech Tree: British
#JDMZVUM1QC (Do not delete this, it is used to keep track of the apps)

*Note: Reservations will last for 48 hours. The OP board reserves the right to be subjective in regards to accepting and removing reservations.

At this moment I'm rather convinced that you're just trolling. A socialist nation couldn't possibly describe itself as an "Empire". The "Soviet Empire" was a phrase used by Western propaganda and was not an actual official nation name of the USSR.

So your reservation is rejected, and I will have to kindly ask you to refrain from any further trolling in this thread.

[Arvenia]

Reservation

Nation Name: Socialist Northumbrian Empire
Territory: British Isles
Tech Tree: British
#JDMZVUM1QC (Do not delete this, it is used to keep track of the apps)

*Note: Reservations will last for 48 hours. The OP board reserves the right to be subjective in regards to accepting and removing reservations.

At this moment I'm rather convinced that you're just trolling. A socialist nation couldn't possibly describe itself as an "Empire". The "Soviet Empire" was a phrase used by Western propaganda and was not an actual official nation name of the USSR.

So your reservation is rejected, and I will have to kindly ask you to refrain from any further trolling in this thread.

I appreciate this decision. Maybe we could have the Union of Britain from Kaiserreich.

[Tracian Empire]

At this moment I'm rather convinced that you're just trolling. A socialist nation couldn't possibly describe itself as an "Empire". The "Soviet Empire" was a phrase used by Western propaganda and was not an actual official nation name of the USSR.

So your reservation is rejected, and I will have to kindly ask you to refrain from any further trolling in this thread.

I appreciate this decision. Maybe we could have the Union of Britain from Kaiserreich.

It will depend on whether we'll get a player for a socialist Britain or not, but if we don't and it will be an NPC, it will likely be at least partially inspired by Kaiserreich's Union of Britain.

[Sao Nova Europa]

Got an idea. What if we made a HoI4 mod out of this setting?